On site cheat bars are used all the time with people putting there whole body weight on them to get bolts off. That must achieve something close to 400 kg
Thanks for the video. $70 wrenches must be better than $10 ones otherwise buyer will be mad. But the difference of broken point force doesn't justify the $60 cost difference LOL
The difference being, if you need tools for home, perfectly fine to buy cheap. It's different when you rely on your tools to make a living. Spend a bit more to have the confidence that they won't let you down when they are needed to pay the bills.
It's not just the breaking point alone that has to justify the cost, there's also wear and long-term durability. You also have to consider the general performance of the tool and how well the mechachinism ratchets. A cheap, sloppy ratchet mechanism can be difficult to use in a tight operating space. So, you might want something high quality and precise.
@@just1ofozz they have a bulit in deformity in the square so it breaks before the mechanism.... solid metal is always gonna be stronger this not a argument this is literally general knowledge
Here’s the thing, at least 3 of those wrenches were made in China. The matkita and milluaukee are, I’m pretty sure both made by the same megacorp in China.
I will help to summarize it as below: $ Kg Kg/$ Milwaukee 70 577 8.24 Makita 45 443 9.84 Wurth 35 436 12.46 Forsage 10 385 38.50 Noname 2 65 32.50 So in summary, while Milwaukee wrench demonstrates the best quality, it's worth noting that in terms of Kg/$ spent, Forsage wrench appears to be the best bang for the buck.
I wouldn’t necessarily say forsage is the best bang for buck. Maybe for a light duty mechanic but in the end Milwaukee or makita would be the better option. Especially when they hold their value longer
Except additional cost for gasoline to go buy a new one. AND, if it is your profession, you have to refuse requests from customers if tools are broken which is a terrible opportunity loss.
The more expensive ones will most likely have better quality. This video can calculate the cost-effectiveness, but it cannot tell which country’s products have better or worse quality.
the same $10 china wrench i bought in china with delivery cost $2. its not very good but could use. if you pay $10in china you can got german quality wrench
El mecanismo es lo que fallara primero, con el uso diario es lo que fallan, sinla usas cientos de veces a la semana se quebra el mecanismo, lo digo por experiencia laboral, hemos quebrado 6 aprox en un año y las de mala calidad no duran ni 2 semanas.
If you buy based on whether you can put 420 or 440kg with your hands, you are buying on the wrong things… I think the Japanese and the German one are better for work because of the handle.
Thank you for this video. You have shared valuable information. Some in the comments refuse to convert that to wisdom. I just built a 10m radio tower and ballast with my 1940's Snapon ratchet/gauge... but y'all can just keep talkin trash and livin your best life.
@@andreaspallasch8372 "Japanese copied from nobody" yes they do through they entire history 🤣 Find out where Japanese writing, culture, weapons, construction methods and more come from
hello The most famous wrench manufacturers in Japan are “KTC” and “TONE”, so I wanted to test with either of them. By the way, "MAKITA" is famous for electric tools. I'm using a translation tool, so I'm sorry if the sentences are strange.
Добрый день. Автор из России, купить KTC или TONE можно только под заказ, причём за очень высокую стоимость и сроки доставки. Тут представлены ключи которые продаются в обычном строительном магазине в России. Старые инструменты которые автор предоставляет на канале - обычно производства СССР
I dont know if the distance between center of rotation and the press is always the same, but it seems like the handles have different length. So it would be nice to make the results comparable by using newton meter. In addition the tension inside the square would be interesting.
I took screenshots, put the pics one on top of the other and yes, the distance between the center of rotation and the press is always the same, regardless the handle size.
You are wrong. Although the handle is longer, the distance where the press is placed is the same. then the motor of the press exerts exactly the same force.
@@joseperdomo9278 Well technically no, because of the linear motion of the press and the rotary motion of the handle the distance will slightly change. Additionally, the highest force is not always at the exact same point. But I think this is negligible, because it is a YT-Video and not a scientific experiment.
@@exitusthirteen It doesn't matter if the press starts higher or lower, the angle in grades of the handle where the press exerts pressure is the same and the distance from that pressure to the screw central is the same. So, it's the same.
They are all produced in china. Comedy. China vs. china. Mesauring just how much the brand actually tranferred the money it got for its brand name to the product. Chines produce everything in required qualitiy if they are paid accordingly.
Its doesn't work like that. China is big factory but this doesn't make chinese all those things which made in China. If you buying Sony TV you don't call it LG because the main component of it - screen - is made by LG? Right?
It's also important to note that the RATE of applying the downward force in the abovementioned test has to be constant across all the wrenches, or else it wouldn't be a fair comparison.
As a modern engineer I’m not surprised that the 1970 wrench still took 1/2 the abuse and still was somewhat functional. New is cheaper, lighter, and economical to built but not always better. Modern cars are a great example of how crappy technology can be. You will never see a 2020 car survive until 2050 but yet all the cars built in 1970 have still made it to 2020. Sure they are heavy and get 15 mpg but they still made the journey and that’s what counts. Old engineering was built to last, not engineered to get you past the warranty so you can buy another. I will never forget my roots.
@@silverdog63 do your studies and not what they are telling you. More deaths today because of cars completely crushing. Old cars stood through accidents, sure we had deaths but not from hitting a deer, tree, large cat, hog, wooden fence etc. these are all things today’s cars will clasped in a low speed accident. The same people telling you new cars are better are the same people telling you electric car are green and that the oceans are rising. Remember Florida and California were not supposed to have beaches by 2010!!! People need to learn common sense again not what the brochure is telling you written by the person who benefits you buying it.
@@MeBallerman it’s good that you have an opinion but you make no sense. Look around you at the number of old cars that survived. The steel back than was 1/4-1/8 on the frame and 16 gauge doors, today,s cars are 30-26 gauge doors with lots of creases to make them sturdy. As an 43 year old engineer I seen it all and nothing built by corporate owned companies is built for the interest of surviving just to get by and sell them another. I will stand by my statement. But for your liberal tree hugging buddies a 1970 car probably didn’t survive if it was burned, crashed, found in the ocean on the Titanic I hope that clears it up for you!!
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What I want to know is what brand socket that is. For it to not split apart under those pressures is amazing. The only word I can see on that socket is “Forged”. I’ve had other cheaply made sockets spread apart by only using hand power.
For those who think "any ratchet will do" is only true when its concerns strength. The difference in quality and design is a huge difference on the force one can apply. I had the pleasure to work with all major brands throughout my career. And it really makes a difference on how easy and fast you can do the job with proper tools.
Yes super Bee ,if a man can pull with that much power and hold it ,ITS NOT A RACHET HE NEEDS , YES there's better ,but the test wasn't about that ,so any rachet will do if it's only about applying power ,I have never seen anyone using a press on a rachet to slacken a bolt ,so in essence you r not so superbee unless u have been watching something else
@@sopissedoff The video shows the quality off the materials and the ratchet and it teeth. In this way the videomaker tries to show the quality of the tool. Sure no one can apply that much force. But what i wa aying is that there 's a difference in the afformentioned and the actual quality of use of the different brands. The chrome Snap on ratchet i have is one the strongest, but not the one who is best on grip and leverage wise. So the comment that any ratchet will do, STRENGTHWISE, is treu. Practical there is a great difference. And i wouldn't have to explain this to anybody who works with his hands......
@@superbee7936 I've had expensive tools and lost them ,had cheap and lost them ,and I hated seeing people putting poles over rachets for leverage ,yes there's good and better ,mid range probably cut the mustard good enough,A nice we fine 1/4 inch is possible the finest tool ,the rest of the toolbox pays the bills
Good review, testing method seemed quite consistent. Any of these rachets would work for me with the exception of the $2 No name rachet. 65 Kg of force is around 100ft-lbs (dependent on handle length), so I could break that. On Average, all the rachets broke around 1000 ft-lbs (+/-) except no name. Don't know about you but no nut I turn is torqued to 1000 ft-lbs, and even if it was, I don't have the physical strength to turn it let alone break it. It is after all, still a hand tool. The big difference would be the useability with the increased number of racheting teeth. The Wurth seems like a good balance between cost and number of teeth. For most home type applications, even the Fosage would last me a lifetime.
You're wrong in your conversions. 65 kg is roughly 650 Nm (Newton-meters), which is about 480 lbf (pound-feet) of torque. This is more than most car engines produce and way, *way* more than you can do with bare hands. You would need either to step on the ratchet (if you turn vertically), or use a much longer lever to produce that torque. So even the $2 ratchet does the job for like 95% of everyday uses. Nevertheless, personally I would opt for the Würth or the Makita.
I like the milwaukee, its strong and the handle is all metallic so its very easy to clean. I use Beta and Facom and they're great but the rubber/plastic handle will deteorate with the use and oil stains.
Hahaha! I am an Indian and I worked in the Middle Eastern countries in oilfield services. With German companies they mostly prefer German tools and spares. The U.S companies prefer good tool and spares irrespective of the country of Origin as long as they provide reliable service. However what I found with the U.K companies was that they used to get cheaper spares and keep changing often. Thanks.
I would've liked to know the distance between the socket and the hydraulic press so we can also see how much torque was applied, not just the raw force.
Whoever have such strength as the machine that test the wrench must be a VERY Strong man. I would buy the $2 one or old wrench 1970 and it probably last me 20-40 years
I guess I’m buying Milwaukee from now on! A follow-up video, part 2, demonstrating Crasftsman, Husky, Kobalt, Matco, Mac Tools, Blue-Point & Snap-On ratchets.
Yes we all need to see Craftsmen & Snap-On. Craftsmen isn't what it used to be so I bought my first Snap-on. Cost as much off the Snap-on truck as a very big Craftsmen set. I think S.O. is much better than C. but I'd like to see the test.
Lol, no, never. But with a possible lifespan of 80 years, life is short, so I would like to know which wrench will outlast me by a thousand years and then some. Just enjoy! On a side note, I have had a cheap ratchet wrench shear on me...I clearly outlasted that one.
@@QuadMech still a sin. Just because you own something, it doesn’t mean you should destroy it. If I owned a rare car would you think it was fine to destroy it?
These tests have two big problems. First, you should maintain constant lever length to know the real torque each wrench can withstand. In addition to that, regarding the wrenches have some flexibility, you should also consider the deformation reached on each test, and the lever ratio to know the actual maximum force, due to the lever changes along the press way down to the breaking point.
The distance between the square center to the press is constant, so isn't the first condition fairly well managed? changes with the height of the press in the point of break is occurred by deformation, it may change the kg but won't really change the rank.
@@kleeo83 You're right, what's changis is the camera position, or that's what I think it looks like now. But I also meantabout the "tensile tool" used. In this case are the big plane circle used by the press, and the changing position clamp on the other side of the wrench. And talking about the lever ratio changing because of the press position, the actual factor that is important here is the angle between the lever and the press: when usin a lever is not the same appliying 1000N at 90 degrees with the lever, than applying it with 70 degrees (with 90 degrees all force is becoming torque, and with 70 degrees some of the force is torque and some is becoming cutting strength). Sorry for bad english, since I'm not a native speaker and it's difficult to explain without a drawing or some images.
O importante não está só na força de alavanca mas sim na quantidade de trabalho dos carretos internos que conforme o tempo e esforço de desgaste começa a folgar e avaria. Nunca homem algum vai fazer essa força. O desgaste interno é o fator mais importante.
Hey! That noname socket was the first one I bought and I loved it! It was excellent for working in tight spaces. Unfortunately, at the expense of using it in strenuous tightening, I ended up damaging it, but I would buy another one like it, without hesitation, if I found it on sale again. The other sockets I own are of much better quality, but none of them are as small and as handy for tight areas.
Interesting video. They all seem over dimensionsed to be honest. Clearly they can all handle more pressure than they would ever see in daily use. So the winner is probably the lightest.
It's an intetesting test, but as many other, for high torque bolts/nuts I dont use this kind of tool until I have loosed it a bit. For me its much more important how many teeth it has, how is the grip etc.
Wenn du damit professionell arbeitest ist Hazet sicher 1. Wahl. Für mich als Gelegenheitsschrauber daheim wäre Makita oder KS allerdings ausreichend. Ist halt einfach nur die Frage des Preis/Leistungs/Gebrauchsverhältnis. Oft billig kaufen ist langfristig so teuer wie 1 x Hazet kaufen Was hier nicht getestet wurde Proxxon. Mein Akkuequipment ist Makita, Handequipment fast ausschließlich Proxxon.
Man I've got a Quinn from harbor freight would love to see those get tested it breaks snap-on chrome sockets like nothing but their 8MM 1/4" drive socket can take a 2 hour beating putting in new studs into a rusty manifold with a 1/2" battery impact China or not super tough
I've got a ratchet my father had that was from the 70s, it has lasted all the time but I have to keep replacing sockets because they keep shattering except the Pittsburgh impact sockets
In fact, even in China a $10 wrench is considered low-end product. China also manufactures very expensive wrenches, which may far exceed your purchasing power. BTW, I'd like to mention that the testing equipment in the video is also made in China, you can see company name on metal tag "蚌埠大洋传感系统工程有限公司".
Milwaukee is an american brand, but produces in germany, china, czech republic and Taiwan.. So far for american made. Also Würth is by far one of the lowest quality you can get in Germany. If you want something realy high quality, you´d buy Gedore or Hazet. Unlikely there is anything better than those two tool brands...
@@waitakiorchards743 Yeah...no...at the extension of the press used in the video, naturally 🥴. Of course my question was poorly worded, and I actually want to know whether the worst rachet handle could be broken by a human without extending the lever.....which I suspect you knew 🤨.
@@titaniumtinman2809 You could put your weight on it, or you could use your muscles. But you'll never be able to snap the square off or wreck the mechanism.
I was using no name ratchet. It served me a good job, unless I applied on with the weight of 70 kg, it cracked mechanism of the ratchet is damaged, it rotates freely in any direction.
Bom meus amigos, eu trabalhando na mecânica de aviação com ferramentas de fabricação americana e de fato elas são extremamente boas de trabalho seguras e forte o bastante pra toda vida. O vídeo é muito bom 😁 Gostei bastante e mandei pra meus amigos mecânico e que ama mecânica
São chinesas mas as marcas não. Mesmo que sejam produzidas na China elas seguem projeto e especificações dos países de origem. Seria a mesma coisa que dizer que o Iphone é chinês porque é fabricado na China.
@@XxGearx ué vc é uma ferramenta? Rsss. Mas a lógica contrária pode ser usada, Seus pais são brasileiros , te planejam no Brasil, você é concebido e nasce na China, vcs voltam pro Brasil, vc é chinês? Rsss
The test only shows the load that can be endured. but no one manages to muster this strength. Since I have worked with most of these tools, I can confidently say that the Würth is the one that fits best in the hand and is the best to work with.
As a heavy duty diesel tech Ill tell you Ive broken a few 1/2” snap-on and mac tools ratchets. Granted I was using a cheater bar to try and break some really tough bolts free. Ive never broken a 3/8 drive ratchet with my hand it definitely takes extra leverage.
@@juanfo7307 as a good diesel tech you should know 1/2 drives have smaller profiles than a 3/4 drive and some times you gotta do what you gotta do to get the job done. Thats why I buy quality tools because they have life time warranty and will just get it fixed/swapped out when my tool guy comes. Lol Ive been doing this over 13 years If its in a semi truck Ive done it
@@juanfo7307 and breaker bars break just like ratchets, and yes Ive heated bolts red hot to break em loose but you can’t always use the torch. How long have you been working with tools? Since you know it all apparently
Great! How much is the quotient of (kg force)/(price $ * sqr( weight g)) for each wrench? Must be a very useful number, more than pressing 400kg by hand…
i though there is a limited torque for each kind of screw, the wrenches only needs to cater the max torque of the largest screw that it can handle , in deed the durability is more important, eg the rubber on the handle , the play between each teeth etc.
If you are strong enough to break any of those you don't need a wrench. Milwaukee don't have safety mechanism in square so that's why it hold the most.
You can put a pipe on the handle of the rachet, and you will be able to break even the "good" ones just by hand. It happened to me several times (Würth, Makita, Proxxon, Hazet)
Problem with cheap ones is not just material strength which is decent but some times moving parts are off in dimensions or don't have an optional design. I.e. a loose racket wrench.
The head of the Milwaukee tool seems larger, which could be a problem working in cramp areas. One thing that is not addressed is the length from the center of the socket to where the press pushes at the wrench. The longer this length is, the more torgue is put on the wrench given a certain kg push. The Milwaukee tool seems longer thus the press seems to push further away from the center of the socket, so it has taken even a higher torgue than the other wrenches... But that price is not for me.
By the way: Würth is a German company, but they do not make their own tools. They buy them from all over the world and just put their name on. So the Würth ratchet in the video might actually be a Chinese one (although a good one). 🤣
@@s.m5174 these ratchets are no used for screws with a diameter of 30 mm. I work as a scaffolder and we use Mannesmann ratchets. They are for 19 mm and 32 mm screws and weigh 1 kg. These ratchets in the video are for small screws.
In general, all went well, because how much leverage can a person exert in a squeeze? La diferencia para mí será la vida útil de cada uno . Bueno un fuerte abrazo para todos Es una de mis herramientas preferida 🇺🇾
I have the no name one! It’s cheap but I’ve had it forever for those low torque and odd ball job, I keep it in my “yard tools” pile aka don’t care if it goes missing etc
i have a stack of them all broken ,given to me by friends ,I turn them into pin punches, cut the head off ,put it on the lathe turn to required diameter
Omg I died laughing when the old ratchet literally exploded in his hand lol. That comedy timing with the serious music couldn't have been written better.
