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HydrosPlus Pump Upgrade - Double the Hydraulic Flow in Your Tractor 

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Hydros plus performance kit install on a John Deere 2038R
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@HarryVonhoene
@HarryVonhoene 5 месяцев назад
Remember this formula: HP= GPM x PSI x .0007. from this you know how many HP you have, throttle speed controls your flow, relief valves control max pressure. As long as your framework (bucket and back hoe) can handle the increase in force generated by the larger cylinders you will get more work done. The force generated by the cylinders is PUSH [3.14 x (Cylinder radius x Cylinder radius)] x pressure. PULL is [3.14 x (Cylinder radius x Cylinder radius) - 3.14 x (Rod diameter/2 x Rod diameter/2)] x pressure. Diameters are in inches, force will be in pounds.
@danlyle4
@danlyle4 5 месяцев назад
Great video Brock, thanks!
@Rsiikarla
@Rsiikarla 5 месяцев назад
I run the Lane Shark on my 3033R, and I just love that thing, it works so easy to cut and clean up trees and brush. Once you get, one you will love it!! They are so easy to work with also before and after the sale. They are working on a design to be able to hydraulic adjust the angle on the fly...
@darrinwoodruff4001
@darrinwoodruff4001 5 месяцев назад
Great video Brock. I really appreciate your opinion on this upgrade that I have thought about often.
@lailer1975
@lailer1975 5 месяцев назад
Great information. As a new tractor owner and self diagnosed tinkerer, I’ve been loving this series of videos. I probably won’t perform these mods on my new L3302, but my father in law’s paid off BX could use some love.
@BENNHENDRICKS33
@BENNHENDRICKS33 5 месяцев назад
Looks like a must have.
@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead
@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead 5 месяцев назад
Man, this is next level! You got my wheels turning now...
@RobertBrothersJr-dc7nr
@RobertBrothersJr-dc7nr 5 месяцев назад
Nice video Brock. I will have to check with them on upgrading my Kubota
@bobpurs
@bobpurs 5 месяцев назад
Great video Brock I’ve been interested in doing the same with the Hydrosplus upgraded pump. You’ve just made my decision easier. 👍
@RockhillfarmYT
@RockhillfarmYT 5 месяцев назад
Glad I could help. Tomorrow’s video is an eye opener
@foonus406
@foonus406 5 месяцев назад
I've been following along this upgrade series with you Brock, really quite impressive. Trying to find the exact same thing for my Deere Skid steer for a couple years now - ways to boost the 320G with some upgraded parts to increase performance.. and an LED kid to replace those empty cutouts they have for the side facing lights on the cab. The ability to find a tier 4 delete kit would be a huge bonus, and a Hydro upgrade would really top things off. I thought it may be possible to order some parts like the hydraulic rams from their 340 series skid to beef it up but no idea where one would start. I have not been able to find any Tier 4 delete kits or hydro upgrades for these skid steers at all, let alone videos like you have done here. Thanks for sharing!
@twshawgo
@twshawgo 4 месяца назад
I've got a 3025e and changed the pump and cylinders on the loader. Big time game changer. Well worth the money with the difference its made
@RockhillfarmYT
@RockhillfarmYT 4 месяца назад
Yeah, I did those two upgrades and my cylinders on the backhoe. Very happy.
@twshawgo
@twshawgo 4 месяца назад
I did the pump and cylinders in 2022. After watching you I'm going to do the pressure adjustment and upgrade my backhoe cylinders. Never used that backhoe yet but I will if itll work like yours has now. Thanks Hydrosplus and thank you brother for your research
@donaldstrishock3923
@donaldstrishock3923 5 месяцев назад
You "Know" this is GOING to put You "WAY Over the TOP" on the "likes& Hits" on your channel ; Mr.Brock. Thank you Sir for the Excelent vidio and happy safe tractoring. Best wishes with all your endeavours.
@RockhillfarmYT
@RockhillfarmYT 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching
@bobwatson9290
@bobwatson9290 5 месяцев назад
Been following hydrosplus for a while. When my warranty is out, I’ll be doing this, plus waiting on the final product for his turbo kit that he’s prototyping now
@tinkering123
@tinkering123 5 месяцев назад
Making these videos is a job themselves. Good work.
@RockhillfarmYT
@RockhillfarmYT 5 месяцев назад
Thanks
@TheRustyGarageandHomestead
@TheRustyGarageandHomestead 5 месяцев назад
Brock, those are gonna be great upgrades. That is going to be like a whole new machine when your done
@davidsmathers5621
@davidsmathers5621 5 месяцев назад
If it doesn't brake first
@TheRustyGarageandHomestead
@TheRustyGarageandHomestead 5 месяцев назад
@@davidsmathers5621 anything is possible. Chance people take. I'm sure it will work plenty of hours just fine
@redtailwoods
@redtailwoods 5 месяцев назад
Nice video! Now to do some research and see if there's something similar for my New Holland. My grapple moves painfully slow unless I'm at full throttle - and I don't really want to be at full throttle while doing grapple work.
@dustdevl1043
@dustdevl1043 5 месяцев назад
Awesome upgrade. I think it's better to have more than you need and not have to run it wide open. Just the pump upgrade made an obvious difference.
@nlynch55
@nlynch55 5 месяцев назад
Looks like a nice upgrade. I’m thinking it will be easier to break things especially when you go to bigger cylinders.
@keithmaggard9024
@keithmaggard9024 5 месяцев назад
New tractor
@doorjumper2549
@doorjumper2549 5 месяцев назад
I'm interested to see at what point stuff starts to break, great video!
@OldIronAcres
@OldIronAcres 5 месяцев назад
Nice!!
@johngersna3263
@johngersna3263 5 месяцев назад
Good morning Brock. This is all well above my paygrade but I'm curious if you could do the backhoe test one more time with the increased hydraulic flow just for curiosities sake. But, I wouldn't want you to do any damage to your tractor like the hydraulic cylinders or anything. God bless and have a wonderful day. 👍👍🙂
@mberry7a
@mberry7a 5 месяцев назад
Something to consider. To fast can equal broken parts. I worked on a railroad gang in the 90’s. I have seen upgrades just like you are doing. Seemed great at first until the metal around the cylinders fatigued and started breaking. Be careful in the long run you will probably see more issues from the higher speed and or stronger cylinders if you go with bigger cylinders. Good luck.
@SSouthcombe
@SSouthcombe 5 месяцев назад
I was one of the first purchasers of the Hydros Plus 2R3E solution pump back in 2022. I had need of 10gpm+ performance for a piece of equipment that I have (Hoelscher 1000 bale accumulator). These pumps totally transform the tractor's abilities and efficiencies. The Hydros Plus pump is also made of steel rather than the factory aluminum pump. I have also made other Hydros Plus upgrades. I installed the Stage 1 pump without removing the mid mount mower deck lift system. It was not easy having that in the way. I have subsequently installed the Stage 2 pump and chose to remove the mid mount mower deck lift system resulting in a much easier process of removing and installing pumps.
@davidsmathers5621
@davidsmathers5621 5 месяцев назад
Hey brock you need to check out the mower that sawing with sandy has for the front of his tractor
@northeasterndirtandpropert7974
@northeasterndirtandpropert7974 5 месяцев назад
You definitely are going to have the flow.Upgrading the cylinders is a different animal.No matter which pump you use,the cross sectional area of an upgraded cylinder is going to increase stress on the super structure of the loader.It has too.The new pump will definitely fill the larger bore of an upgraded cylinder,But at what cost?You should do a cross sectional Hyd calculation and show the difference between the 2 cylinders.I like these kinds of vids.Everybody learns something,even if the tractor may become the victim.
@RockhillfarmYT
@RockhillfarmYT 5 месяцев назад
For details and in-depth information hydros plus is the guy to ask that question I just grunt and do whatever pops into my head. I don’t know how anything works.
@hagak1679
@hagak1679 5 месяцев назад
Is this the stage 2 pump or stage 1? I installed the Stage 1 last year and been very happy with it. And your description of the install process is spot on.
@RockhillfarmYT
@RockhillfarmYT 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, I believe it’s the newer version
@patrickcorbett8361
@patrickcorbett8361 5 месяцев назад
Very interesting Brock , I have a J.D. 3033R that also has the mid mount mower hdw....How hard was it to get that pump switched out ? Looking forward to your upgrade videos on this. pc
@douglasjackson1998
@douglasjackson1998 5 месяцев назад
When you chose to make a change like this you put yourself in the shoes of the engineers who made the original choices for that tractor. They would/should have had questions in mind like "what's safe?", "what's affordable?", "what fits?", "How do we keep this model tractor in it's place in the line-up?". It'll be fun not to be constrained to keep from robbing market share from bigger tractors. While I don't want to be called "Safety Sally", the point of my comment is just this: Keep it safe, and have fun doing whatever you can afford to do.
@PoisonShot20
@PoisonShot20 2 месяца назад
I just want to increase the hydralic pressure on my 1925r, just one full turn, tractor only can do so much. I also will increase the throttle a bit, get the engine to produce the 25hp that is made for.
@HarryVonhoene
@HarryVonhoene 5 месяцев назад
If you have it in your notes, what is the inside diameter of the suction hose?
@Jtwizzle
@Jtwizzle 5 месяцев назад
Good stuff! Are you doing this to keep from wanting to go to a bigger tractor? Its going to be a very capable machine after all these upgrades.
@RockhillfarmYT
@RockhillfarmYT 5 месяцев назад
Something like that
@ericscott7335
@ericscott7335 5 месяцев назад
How long did it take you to install it?
@freepatriot6313
@freepatriot6313 5 месяцев назад
I wonder if this upgrade would drive your Harley Rake?....if you can adapt the Deere to skid steer type connection
@johnkovac4436
@johnkovac4436 4 месяца назад
I did skid steer upgrade on my 4066r on loader and love it from factory
@keithriemersma9793
@keithriemersma9793 5 месяцев назад
What is the higher continuous HP draw and heat load when just going over relief.
@T_Humphries
@T_Humphries 5 месяцев назад
Fluid is only flowing across the relief when the pressure exceeds relief set point (3k psi or so) from maxed out cylinder travel or maxed out load limit, When no function is being called for by the operator the pump flow is being directed to tank and will not sheer across relief and cause continuous heat or hp draw
@keithriemersma9793
@keithriemersma9793 5 месяцев назад
@@T_Humphries thanks for your comment. I looked deeper and see the flow path is open center on the control valves so that is correct. Just don't keep asking for movement if a function is deadhead. Thanks again for making me look deeper into the flow path.
@T_Humphries
@T_Humphries 5 месяцев назад
@@keithriemersma9793 Y'sir!!
@alittleofthisandalittleofthat
@alittleofthisandalittleofthat 5 месяцев назад
How much more will it lift? Or you just have more flow?
@RockhillfarmYT
@RockhillfarmYT 5 месяцев назад
This video is just more flow. The video I’m releasing tomorrow is how much will it lift. That requires you to change the cylinders
@HarryVonhoene
@HarryVonhoene 5 месяцев назад
Don't forget to bleed the air our of your lines!
@projectswithjw
@projectswithjw 5 месяцев назад
This system is self bleeding
@SteveinMississippi
@SteveinMississippi 5 месяцев назад
1) I hope your warranty has already expired, because if you had any left, it is now void. JD is really shitty about stuff like that. 2) 2 functions at once - Observe when it's actually under load doing some work. Hydraulic flow is going to follow the path of least resistance. 3) Be careful with the idea of changing to larger bore cylinders. You may end up exceeding the strength of material of the implement itself, like the attachment points (pin diameters) and the frame in general.
@toddcaskey9984
@toddcaskey9984 5 месяцев назад
Morning
@RockhillfarmYT
@RockhillfarmYT 5 месяцев назад
Morning
@toddcaskey9984
@toddcaskey9984 5 месяцев назад
@@RockhillfarmYT maybe for 200,00 subscribers you can have a pump give away that fits a 4020 bobcat 🤪. And a anytime use of the attachment's u want or have 🤪
@Cowboy_Steve
@Cowboy_Steve 5 месяцев назад
Morning. Running late this morning... 🤠
@toddcaskey9984
@toddcaskey9984 5 месяцев назад
@@Cowboy_Steve at least you are still running 🤪
@johnpope4464
@johnpope4464 5 месяцев назад
You forgot I gave you something to put over the blade to keep that from happening....
@RockhillfarmYT
@RockhillfarmYT 5 месяцев назад
To keep what from happening
@brandtwebber5761
@brandtwebber5761 3 месяца назад
God, people gonna be tearing their tractors in two! That hoe works like my 710g, I want one...
@dalemyers2626
@dalemyers2626 5 месяцев назад
What about the cost of this pump????
@RockhillfarmYT
@RockhillfarmYT 5 месяцев назад
I put a link in the video description. It’s about 1600.
@georgepruitt637
@georgepruitt637 4 месяца назад
Are you saying that Deere John didn't design it very well ???????
@RockhillfarmYT
@RockhillfarmYT 4 месяца назад
Not sure I follow you. I take the V6 engine out of my truck and put in a V8 that doesn’t mean that the manufacture had a port design. It means that I wanted more power. There are a lot of factors to consider when designing a piece of equipment, and one of them is the cost.
@jefffrancis6824
@jefffrancis6824 5 месяцев назад
@robertlivingston1634
@robertlivingston1634 5 месяцев назад
Did that blueberry on your thumb come from the pump job 🤔
@RockhillfarmYT
@RockhillfarmYT 5 месяцев назад
No. I was sliding pallet forks across the floor about a month ago and smashed it.
@LIFEISHARDSTUPID
@LIFEISHARDSTUPID 5 месяцев назад
Do you ask people on the street questions like this? If you do, you're what's wrong with the world 🌎 today. Like, who asks this? Gotta love the internet.
@robertlivingston1634
@robertlivingston1634 5 месяцев назад
@@LIFEISHARDSTUPID I disagree with your analysis of my question, if you're afraid to communicate your misshapes and help others to not be in the same situation you're what's wrong with the world today. I've had plenty of blueberries and was never offended by someone showing interest and listening to my story, usually it comes from sympathy.
@benzini3144
@benzini3144 Месяц назад
Surprised they dont pack and plug the pump from the factory to avoid any mistakes buy a diy installer.
@WilliamsonRidge
@WilliamsonRidge 5 месяцев назад
Is that the same pump for your hydrostatic drive or is that a separate pump, if so I bet you would really see the difference in the feel of your hydrostatic
@projectswithjw
@projectswithjw 5 месяцев назад
separate. this is for steering, 3 point, & attachments only. Transmission has its own pump.
@williamiverson903
@williamiverson903 4 месяца назад
Do the recommended changing the hydrostatic pump also? And how would it effect travel speed and pulling power? Thanks
@spudth
@spudth 2 месяца назад
Watched this 2 minutes and I'm dumber, please get to tge point. I know you have a video length you are trying to reach. How's the ram transmission?
@RockhillfarmYT
@RockhillfarmYT 2 месяца назад
I have never intentionally added to a a video to make it a certain length. I cut them down as short as I can without leaving out what I consider to be important information
@spudth
@spudth 2 месяца назад
@@RockhillfarmYT okay, I'm needing to replace my pump on an old skidsteer and trying to figure out how far I can go and work within the confines of my system. I watch a lot of youtube and when seeking information I like people who get to the point. We've all had enough of Kamala word salad.
@PoisonShot20
@PoisonShot20 2 месяца назад
Yup! Microwave is not fast enough for us, at this day and age! @ a rabbit style right? Girls hate that, 😂😂.
@eckythump6429
@eckythump6429 5 месяцев назад
It’s cool but cannot help thinking you maybe just need a bigger tractor……
@davidmays2161
@davidmays2161 5 месяцев назад
Didn't sound like Brock was interested in taking on additional debt, I suspect he will sell that skid steer at some point and fall into a sweetheart deal like TTWT has with leases.
@hagak1679
@hagak1679 5 месяцев назад
Also he has invested a lot in making this tractor perfect for him so he would have to start most of that over on a new tractor.
@eckythump6429
@eckythump6429 5 месяцев назад
@@davidmays2161 the fact he already has a skid steer which can carry the implements he talked about in the video makes this look even more of an upgrade for the sake of an upgrade. I appreciate there is a constant search for new content to stay relevant.
@eckythump6429
@eckythump6429 5 месяцев назад
@@hagak1679 he has spent a lot of money trying to get his small tractor to perform like a bigger tractor or match the competition. It’s not like he works in confined areas where such a small unit is required. I agree with @davidmays2161 the skid steer will go and a bigger tractor will arrive when a suitable deal is worked out.
@RockhillfarmYT
@RockhillfarmYT 5 месяцев назад
I have too much debt on these two machines. I may end up with one machine that’s between the size of the two. Hard to say what’s going to happen. If I did sell the skid steer, I need to be able to move logs with something. On some level I’m just a guinea pig for showing people what you can do if you want to.
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