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Hypersonic Weapons: I didn't expect this... 

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Where is the real advantage of hypersonic weapons? Are they fast? So what?
Is the Kinzhal unstoppable, and the Avangard? And the Zircon?
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@johndavidwolf4239
@johndavidwolf4239 Год назад
What to me is an important parameter that was not covered was the energy required to turn. It has to be nearly all thrust as "banking" like a winged aircraft does nearly nothing, thus turns would require the energy equal to the sin of the angle turned, a 30º angle turn at Mach 5, regardless of the turning radius would require the same energy as to accelerate the missile from 0 to mach 2.5, which for a "sustaining" scram-jet engine is a lot of time, distance, fuel.
@russellk.bonney8534
@russellk.bonney8534 9 месяцев назад
Most turning is done by air pressure. That energy has already been provided by the thrust and relative velocity of the airflow over fins. That's been a well understood mechanics from the beginning of bird flight.
@hritamnath4919
@hritamnath4919 Год назад
I've learnt more about hypersonics and in general, aerospace engineering stuff from your channel than any professor, book or research paper! Keep it up sir, may God bless u 🔥
@covidhoax7646
@covidhoax7646 Год назад
Really? What exactly did you learn?
@LifeChanger_._
@LifeChanger_._ Год назад
They can make turns, yes, they do not have radar detecting avoidance systems on them like Russia claims. The plasma wave they produce at the tip is very hot and detectable by simple IR radar systems from long distances, the goal to bring them down is early detection. They also slow down considerably (Mach 3 or 4) when approaching target, leaving them open to most air defence systems. They are not and end all kill all weapon.
@AndY1ksi
@AndY1ksi Год назад
They can reach Mach 15 when approaching the target vertically.
@justrandomguy5010
@justrandomguy5010 Год назад
IR detectors very short ranged due to the small wavelength. Radars have much bigger wavelength
@WarriorLife_fpv
@WarriorLife_fpv Год назад
@@justrandomguy5010 not via satellite
@Shrouded_reaper
@Shrouded_reaper Год назад
​@@braybilly"Lying or exaggerating as they always do". Hm so something along the lines of the ghost of Kiev or the grandma taking down a Russian drone with a can of beans eh?
@phillydelphia8760
@phillydelphia8760 Год назад
​@@Shrouded_reaper it's almost as if that's obvious, feel good propaganda to make the civil population feel good. It's like those two things are not the same.. madness I know.
@salahidin
@salahidin Год назад
I love the no-nonsense infographics!
@jimrobcoyle
@jimrobcoyle Год назад
Hail the algorithm!
@72marshflower15
@72marshflower15 Год назад
The Ukraine claim that they shot down a hypersonic missile has been debunked. The purported video of the claim shows an FAB500, not a hypersonic. The clue is in the shape of the nose.
@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle
​@@72marshflower15 then, the Pentagon confirmed it after the supposed debunking, so I am skeptical of what really happened. I think the possibility should not be ruled out.
@72marshflower15
@72marshflower15 Год назад
@@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle ~ surely it shouldn’t be discounted, yet the US lies so much that it’s earned itself the name “Empire of Lies”.. That and every claim that Ukraine has made against Russia has been false so far.. They were all false claims that were trying to get other countries involved or to hype up support.
@joelau2383
@joelau2383 Год назад
​@@72marshflower15 It is not a FAB-500 steel bomb, but a BETAB-500 SHP concrete piercing bomb.
@bit-tuber8126
@bit-tuber8126 11 месяцев назад
Good to get something on the subject other than clickbait. Thank you.
@jimgolab536
@jimgolab536 Год назад
I thought this was clear and sufficiently simplified that I could get the main ideas. Very sensible stuff.
@OldSloGuy
@OldSloGuy 5 месяцев назад
The economics are frightening: A very great increase in defensive installations is not only costly, but diverts resources away from other projects. While hypersonics are still very high tech, they are relatively cheap compared to the effort to defend against them. That means an adversary doesn't need very many hypersonics to elicit a disproportional response and they would be very effective against soft targets like radar stations. Take out the search radars and there is no facility to detect and analyze targets. Traditional fire control radar is higher frequency narrow beam short range equipment, while search radar is low frequency wide beam long range equipment. Phased arrays remove most of the physical limitations of scanning, but that mostly means the ability to lock on to multiple targets, not be effective in long range search. If you can blind the adversary, then the choice of engagement opens up significantly. If search radar is your eyes, is that what gets the point defense? In asymmetrical warfare, the big guy may not want to invade the little guy because it is like kicking a hornet's nest. The big guy will prevail, but not without significant pain for little gain.
@JonMartinYXD
@JonMartinYXD Год назад
This is the best explanation of the whys, hows, whats of hypersonic weapons that I have seen, and I have seen a lot. As for defence, the US could always dust off the Sprint missile and upgrade it into a hit-to-kill system. Zero to Mach 10 in 5 seconds, and that was back in 1975.
@mbaladon
@mbaladon Год назад
I really like the return of the pen and paper slides!
@claytonius3
@claytonius3 Год назад
They are more than adequate.
@patrickchase5614
@patrickchase5614 4 месяца назад
This is a brilliant description of the true advantages of hypersonics.
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 Год назад
I just remembered something in the old Combat and Survival magazine describing attack helicopters: they are an economy of force unit. They are deployed only if it merits their relatively large cost compared to other assets. Hypersonice weapons seem to be also economy of force assets: when a very important target needs to be quickly dispatched without using nukes. Of course, if the price and manufacturing of hypersonic weapons get lower, this again may change.
@andrewdewar8159
@andrewdewar8159 Год назад
But they are saying the Patriot system is shooting down the Kinzal missiles and they are not maneuvering,, just a parabolic arc. They are saying that the designers of Russia's hyper sonic missiles have been arrested, and implying that these designers nay be blackmailed to reveal designs due to their families being in the West and potentially targeted.
@markir9
@markir9 Год назад
They are saying that all the Kinzals are being shot down - but there is video footage of 2 of them hitting Patriot launchers...and 'they' are hunting down the folk responsible for the video. Suggests the Kinzal are effective to me. I like the smell of propaganda in the morning...
@steven530x
@steven530x Год назад
Nothing but Ukrainian Lies.
@Shrouded_reaper
@Shrouded_reaper Год назад
​@@markir9Yep...
@Alex-no1rb
@Alex-no1rb Год назад
​@@markir9 there is no such video
@okakokakiev787
@okakokakiev787 Год назад
@@Alex-no1rb I ve seen it though :D let me correct you: There s no such video that is available to you
@palashchoudhari8671
@palashchoudhari8671 Год назад
This is one the best explanation of Hypersonic weapons I have seen. And yes, most youtubers are parrots.
@elrondmcbong467
@elrondmcbong467 Год назад
If you intercept a hypersonic missile close to your position the threat isn't over because now you have to deal with super sonic shrapnel...
@vultureTX001
@vultureTX001 Год назад
air resistance is ablative in this case.
@georgesikimeti2184
@georgesikimeti2184 Год назад
That’s exactly what happened when all the missiles were nullified,what else could have been responsible.
@amzalkamel3009
@amzalkamel3009 Год назад
I rarely stumble on RU-vidrs with such intellectual depth, Kudos to you man
@covidhoax7646
@covidhoax7646 Год назад
That says a lot about you.
@anatolijstrangar4797
@anatolijstrangar4797 Год назад
Looking for something like this for a some time. Thank you on presenting the facts.
@trumanhw
@trumanhw Год назад
Another EXCELLENT (unrivaled) analysis by Gus. Thank you *Reminds me of 60s tech: The SPRINT missile (100G acceleration & mach 10 in ~15sec!)*
@kathrynck
@kathrynck Год назад
Faster weapons make the area defense bubble shrink and become more oblong. But have very little impact on point defense, _assuming_ there is good automation (ex: a system which uses 'man in the loop' at low speeds, but omits MITL for any approaching contacts going above mach 2 or 3). Stealth does "shrink the bubble" in a more spherical way. Although stealth aircraft have "hot axis", where large areas are 90 degrees to the detection system. So it's effect on shrinking 'bubbles' is fairly complex. A good way to intercept hypersonic weapons (assuming the range/speed/detection/ooda are ok), is to put shrapnel in the path of the weapon. A single, _stationary_ BB pelet would completely destroy a mach 7 missile or aircraft. So you don't need to hit them hard, just 'touch' them, and let their own kinetic energy do the rest. Personally I'm a fan of specialized warheads for hypersonic intercept, something like very distantly projected "heavy duty chaff" or perhaps a very large packet of dispersed aluminum maple seeds (which would also be incredibly effective as chaff, incidentally). But the main defense, is a hypersonic A2AD system. Just make the intercept missiles fast too. Not _all_ of them, just some of them, in a distributed system. This can be a benefit vs. slower targets like aircraft as well. Since it really tightens up the ooda for a pilot trying to penetrate air defense. Could get into fancy cat & mouse games, where you could "spoof" a hypersonic air defense missile launch, to force nearby enemy aircraft to throw out chaff (giving away their position), as they'll be reluctant to wait & make sure they've actually been fired upon, when their ooda is so short. Your best flight profile for a hypersonic antiship missile, would be high... then descending at a steady rate (straight line) to near sea level at aproximately 25km away. Keeping the whole flight profile neatly snug against the horizon visibility of the target vessel. With a final boost phase pushing hypersonic through that last 25km at sea level. It would melt all to heII, but making a projectile survive 25km at 6000 km/hr only requires about 15 seconds of durability (unless it hits an insect... then kaboom). The problem would be the size of the booster needed to push that fast at sea level for 15 seconds. Which compounds with the size of the booster needed to project such a large booster to it's 25km-from-target ignition. It would not be a small package, and could require a rather oversized launch platform (might end up being a 4000 lb missile or something). Mainly hypersonics are strong against less important targets. Ones which don't individually warrant point defense, or basing an A2AD directly at them (where it would benefit from point-defense kinematics, at least while defending that point). Russia has demonstrated this by using them to strike things like power grid components, railways, etc. where they are well suited to penetrate defenses. I seriously question their value vs sheer bulk numbers of far cheaper to make regular missiles. But if a limited number of them can force your opponent into spending big on countermeasures, then hypersonic weapons can be a big winner in the economic warfare of an arms race, without actually needing to be fired. But if all it does is force the enemy to field far better A2AD systems, it's not necessarily a win.
@leosam7097
@leosam7097 Год назад
If im not wrong Russia used hypersonic weapons to hit high value targets like bunkers and protected ammo depots, not secondary but protected targets (supersonic ones used for them)... high penetration because of kinematics is also a factor also. Thus the low numbers of hypersonic weapons used (if my memory serves less than a dozen total so far) Counter naval hypersonic arms flight path should have an element of re orientation while at the blind spot of the their target... thus countering to a point any early (long range) detection and tracking. I think that the main problem for hypersonic AAA system is the calculations for tracking and targeting, faster computers needed to calculate where to send the projectiles.
@kathrynck
@kathrynck Год назад
@@leosam7097 Well "value" is relative. obviously one would want to target the highest value target they can ... _short_ of sending it directly at an air defense system (which would make the air defense system much more capable of shooting it down).
@spiderone4
@spiderone4 Год назад
@@kathrynck"short of sending it directly at an air defense system" Nope. I'll tell you a little secret. Kinzhal is made for Carrier battle group. That is why they launched 6 Kinzhal at once few moths ago. To send a message. Price doesn't matter in that case.
@leosam7097
@leosam7097 Год назад
@@kathrynck Yes it is relative and thus the observation i made, also the cost and availability of those weapons... + Current SAM systems they dont have the capability to intercept hyprtsonics yet (as far as we know) so high priority / value targets that are protected are the logically the prime targets for such weapons.
@kathrynck
@kathrynck Год назад
@@leosam7097 It may also be that systems sent to Ukraine are older-block backup hardware. And are not well suited to targeting a hypersonic missile. Although the kinzhal is just an air launched ballistic missile really. So older systems which have dual AA & ABM should work. Even vintage desert storm era patriot missiles, and similarly aged SM missiles in the navy. I'm sure newer versions work 'better' though. Hitting a bullet with a bullet is tricky even when all the math is right ;) Ballistic glide vehicle type missiles are probably the biggest issue. They come from overhead at mach 25~ish. And it takes more missile (booster) to go up than to go horizontally. So there's a small intercept range (barring enormous A2AD missiles), and a very small intercept time window. If it maneuvers at all, it becomes somewhat more tricky to shoot down, even if you have an A2AD system which is technically capable. Compact, non-recombinant 100, 200, and 300 KW lasers are just about ready for prime time though. That will change some things. Arguably change more things than HS missiles.
@y_k3096
@y_k3096 Год назад
Thank you for explaining how area defence actually work.
@CatalinArseniu
@CatalinArseniu Год назад
Good work
@ELMS
@ELMS Год назад
This was so enlightening! I have a much, much better understanding of hypersonics than before. Thank you!
@e911disp
@e911disp Год назад
This channel is the best information on aerodynamics and modern technology and design. Great work 👏
@deanjericevic8912
@deanjericevic8912 Год назад
That zooming in effect from time to time gives your video presentation a nuanced variation which is effective for keeping your audience engaged.
@QualityCraftsmen
@QualityCraftsmen Год назад
Great Analisys!
@laurencethermes5433
@laurencethermes5433 Год назад
Great explanation, thanks.
@IL2TXGunslinger
@IL2TXGunslinger Год назад
Brilliant! 99% of all the military focused RU-vid channels ignore the Physics. I wish one day that you had enough funding to create your own simulations. I loved the ellipses based upon velocity. But now imagine iterating they with the missiles target strength vs frequency! The ellipses would shrink :). And as the missiles plasma envelope changes ……. well you already know this 😊
@russellk.bonney8534
@russellk.bonney8534 9 месяцев назад
They are only ellipses if the attacks are coming from all directions. Narrow cones pointing towards the attacking missile would be more like it.
@JoanneLeon
@JoanneLeon Год назад
Well done. Thank you for taking the time to do this explanation with great illustrations.
@perelfberg7415
@perelfberg7415 Год назад
You are really on top of your self this time! Best videos "More concerned pushing a narrative than under standing.." so true! Keep em coming
@richardking2743
@richardking2743 Год назад
I absolutely love your analysis!!!
@T0rrente18
@T0rrente18 Год назад
Very well explained, i watched your previous videos about this topic and this one was easy to understand, the graphic design is also improving well.
@jonathanaustinstern1
@jonathanaustinstern1 Год назад
This is one of the very best channels. For info
@garethmartin6522
@garethmartin6522 Год назад
Interesting and informative.
@steveb890
@steveb890 Год назад
Another point to add is that a regular ballistic missile on a depressed trajectory ( lower ) can deliver the warhead with an equal or maybe even shorter flight time than a hypersonic over the same range ! ( sub launches )
@c1ue1
@c1ue1 Год назад
This is a completely nonsensical statement. A ballistic missile, by definition, is not low trajectory.
@steveb890
@steveb890 Год назад
@@c1ue1 I said "lower" not low ! ... read before you try to contradict. Look up " depressed trajectory "
@c1ue1
@c1ue1 Год назад
@@steveb890 Apparently you failed basic geometry. Perhaps you should do the math of how much further a distance a non-hypersonic missile must travel in its "lower" ballistic missile trajectory vs. a cruise missile on a flat trajectory. For simplicity sake - I will use a half circle vs. a straight line - 2xradius (hypersonic) vs. 1/2*pi*radius squared. Taking into account the relative speed of ballistic (top end) vs. Mach 10 - the equation boils down to 1/2*pi*radius squared/1.33 = 2*radius/1. Or in other words, unless the radius in question is 2.3 km - the hypersonic missile will be faster reaching its target. If we posit the hypersonic missile is "only" going Mach 5 - the "break even" radius expands to 2.36 km. Yes, the ballistic trajectory is closer to a half ellipse - but that doesn't significantly change the "break even" radius. An ellipse with 1/2 the height vs. width - the circumference is 2*pi*(3*r1+r2squared+squareroot of r1*r2) = 2*pi(6r2+r2squared+squareroot(2*r2)... the result is break even points under 3 km for both the (ballistic speed = 1.33x hypersonic i.e. Mach 10) and (ballistic speed = 1.4x hypersonic i.e. Mach 5 - and using maximum ballistic missile speed of 10000 kmph). Or in other words - unless the ballistic trajectory is basically almost literally flat - your assertion is flat out wrong.
@c1ue1
@c1ue1 Год назад
@@steveb890 Do the math. Come back afterwards and comment.
@steveb890
@steveb890 Год назад
@@c1ue1 Apparently you failed basic Physics .... no atmosphere entered into your equation ? 🤡 No mention at Mach 5 a missile at altitude will lose energy 125 times faster than at Mach 1, and at Mach 20 it will lose energy 8,000 times faster! cant account for drag .... but clearly you know more than rocket scientists. 🤣
@jpierce2l33t
@jpierce2l33t Год назад
This is the very first I've heard about possible Ku band communication. Another great, informative video Millennium 7*, now on to do some more research!
@cannonfodder4376
@cannonfodder4376 Год назад
Yet another clear and comprehensive explainer. A welcome change compared to all the clickbait online.
@ryanreedgibson
@ryanreedgibson Год назад
I am glad I found you. Nice video and GREAT explanation.
@TheBranchez
@TheBranchez Год назад
Nice video man. No irony, your drawing skills are very good. Very simple, but very easily understood and precise. I hope you are doing well health wise. Take care.
@azurestream7816
@azurestream7816 Год назад
You're content is, as always, amazing. Well thought, and well executed, your channel has been my favorite military tech channel ever since I first discovered you during the pandemic. Keep up the good work!
@agsystems8220
@agsystems8220 Год назад
One thing worth pointing out is that much of the cost is getting a working design. They travel fast enough that rockets end up efficient, and rockets are cheap, far cheaper than a regular cruise missile engine. The flight times are lower which makes inertial navigation more accurate as long as you can get good initial conditions*, and that is quite easy close to the launcher. A manoeuvring hypersonic ground attack missile does not need sophisticated sensors**, or penetration aids. Control can be achieved with some lumps of tungsten on rails. A tank of liquid nitrogen can keep the stuff cool that needs it, while also using some of the skin heat to produce high pressure gas for power and actuation. Other than that it is mostly just a lump of tungsten on a big dumb booster. They are not inherently expensive. To make matters worse, it is a lump of tungsten. Even if you get an interceptor close to it, shrapnel isn't going to kill it reliably. I think of them as more similar to large versions of the starstreak missile. It is closer to a guided bullet than a conventional missile. Scramjets are a dead end I think. They only really make any sense with hydrogen, but then you end up with a vehicle that is mostly fuel tank, so low density. When it hits the lower atmosphere it will slow down too fast to be useful. It is far more practical just to add more booster and ablator. * If your IMU can place you within 5m of a target after 5 minutes, it doesn't matter whether that means from 30km away traveling 100m/s or 600km away traveling at 2000m/s. ** Defence contractors will obviously load them with sensors, to add a few zeros to the price, but they really don't need them. It cannot reasonably aim relative to the target, so needs to use absolute position techniques anyway. Likewise the closing speed relative to any interceptor will make detecting those in reasonable time to deliberately evade unreasonable too.
@billhanna2148
@billhanna2148 Год назад
Thank you that was very complementary to the video and my understanding of this topic 🙏
@hphp31416
@hphp31416 Год назад
piece of tungsten hitting 10m away from armoured vecchicle would just bury itself into ground with no results, it needs precise terminal guidance
@agsystems8220
@agsystems8220 Год назад
​@@hphp31416 Not quite. It dumps it's energy into the surroundings and has comparable energy to it's mass in explosives. It doesn't need to be quite as precise as you might think. Also, precise guidance does not mean able to detect the target. It just means that it has a very precise idea of where it is (within 1m), and control of it's acceleration to within a few tenths of one g. Basically it needs to be reasonably aerodynamically stable and have a GPS on it. IMUs are good enough that it wouldn't even need to use the GPS within a few hundred km of the target to still hit the bullseye.
@agsystems8220
@agsystems8220 Год назад
@@johnsmith1953x The problem with rail guns is the gun, not the concept of a hypersonic lump of tungsten. Getting a tungsten dart to hypersonic speeds isn't hard, you can just use a booster rocket. The point of a rail gun was to make it so cheap that you wouldn't even consider putting guidance on it. When you are spending the money on a booster anyway you might as well make it guided.
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 Год назад
Thanks for the overview; I was wondering about the defence. Strategically, we're still stuck with MAD. In the carrier-killer concept, the mobility, AEW and escorts with high-performance missiles should still make a carrier task group a tough nut to crack.
@user-dp4ok9ox5w
@user-dp4ok9ox5w Год назад
Hypersonics are kinda meant to be anti-carrier. That is one of the main reasons for Russia's interest in them.
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 Год назад
@@user-dp4ok9ox5w And the USN is taking them seriously.
@user-dp4ok9ox5w
@user-dp4ok9ox5w Год назад
​@@petesheppard1709 ...and that is why Russia has not invested in large ships anymore, instead deliberately choosing a fleet of small ships capable of carrying cruise and hypersonic missiles. It is a whole conceptual change (at least for Russia).
@jtdg5849
@jtdg5849 Год назад
Very interesting. Thank you for explaining the area defense change. I will note that the oval is not going to be symmetrical. It will be shorter behind it than in front of it, if it can even shoot hyper-sonic that has passed it.
@Millennium7HistoryTech
@Millennium7HistoryTech Год назад
True, it is not exactly an oval ether.
@christophggcyrus6861
@christophggcyrus6861 11 месяцев назад
I love the way you present your content! Thx - quite enlightening!!
@250Skyer250
@250Skyer250 Год назад
Amazing video, finally someone to dive into the true detail of those weapons.
@joelau2383
@joelau2383 Год назад
I am a little bit disappointed he still doesn't mention that hypersonic speed is faster than explosion speed thus proxy fuse weapons are useless.
@Milvus_In_Excelsis
@Milvus_In_Excelsis Год назад
That's why PAC-3 Missles are hit to kill missles.
@matsv201
@matsv201 Год назад
You really wouldn't use a proximity fuze anyway on something that is even supersonic. What you do is calculated a cone of shrapnel and simply detonate it a head of time. This is so common nowdays even something simple like a Bofors AA gun do it that way.
@joelau2383
@joelau2383 Год назад
@@matsv201 The fact is exactly the opposite. Most missile only have limited computation power due to size and weight. The little bit extra conventional targets hit rate of realtime projectiles cone trajectory calculation over proxy fuze detonation simply doesn't worth occupying such significant portion of on board computation power comparing to improving detection, anti jamming and flight trajectory (range) optimization. Besides, shrapnel cone is always straight extended along the "instant" missile movement direction. If you draw a missile turning trajectory and the straight extended cone along the path, you will see the cone interception curve line lag outward and behind the missile turning path. It means the missile must turn harder to put the cone interception line on a maneuvering target and it is less effective to catch maneuvering targets than direct hit/proxy fuze method. Only unguided weapon system with a lot of fire contol power like 35mm AA AHEAD is suitable to use shrapnel cone method because the interception speed, altitude and distance of the projectile are easily calculated on the vehicle before firing. If target maneuver, it simply misses and fire again.
@matsv201
@matsv201 Год назад
@@joelau2383 That might have been true 50 years ago in the 70s when they needed a extra rack for FPU calculation. To day this compute power is literally in the relm of nano grams. "missile turning path. It means the missile must turn harder to put the cone interception" The turn rate to time is lower on a hypersonic missile than a supesonic or subsonic one. So even if its faster, its actually easier to hit. Intelligent targeting tips have been a thing for over 40 years. You have to catch up to nowdays
@joelau2383
@joelau2383 Год назад
@@matsv201 You clearly are not familiar with military technology and history. Weapon processor performance is decades behind civilian mobile product processor, because they are designed to be stable and reliable under extreme condition like heavy radiation and overload during decades long service life, not chasing performance. Most missile on board processor in 70s cannot even guide itself to intercept the target alone, it was a 90s missile feature. And flight trajectory optimisation was 2000s era feature. New anti jamming and stealth detection enhancement are even more recent technology. Cone of shrapnel method is still never an efficient way to spend the limit computation power for most of the missile. For example, 21th century missiles like SM-6, PAC-3 MSE, Aim-132 use annular/spherical blast frag warhead instead of shrapnel or pellet cone spread warhead. Your concept of interception is wrong. If your missile is as fast as the target, you only need the same max turn rate as the maneuvering target to maintain interception. If your missile is slower than the target, you need a higher turn rate than maneuvering target to maintain interception. This is why it is easy to intercept a slow target with fast missile, but difficult to intercept a fast target with slow missile.
@yaseen157
@yaseen157 Год назад
1:05 While yes Mach 5 in particular is arbitrarily chosen, it's not *because* current weapons don't exceed those speeds, it's because required control systems and the chemical composition of air changes significantly at and beyond that flight regime
@mastermariner490
@mastermariner490 Год назад
Makes sense,since the aerodynamic friction will probably be higher and more heat created causing problems for electronics and seeekers in the missile.
@yaseen157
@yaseen157 Год назад
@@mastermariner490 there's always going to be more heat the faster you go, but counter intuitively it's colder than you'd expect with conventional supersonic physics because some of the heat energy is soaked up by the air molecules as they begin to break down and dissociate. For one thing, it changes the adiabatic index or specific heat ratio of the gas, which has consequences on how the gas behaves when flowing around the missiles body or into a scramjet
@mastermariner490
@mastermariner490 Год назад
@@yaseen157 You mean plasma forms and blocks radio signals.
@SlowrideSteve
@SlowrideSteve Год назад
Really appreciate your explanations. Keep up the good work
@kkenny70
@kkenny70 Год назад
Excellent video, very well presented and easy to understand. Obviously this is a massively simplified explanation, but how many of us are really going to need that depth of information...? Keep up the good work sir.
@sohrabroozbahani4700
@sohrabroozbahani4700 Год назад
Perhaps directed energy weapons can help but they are also very weather dependent on performance side... so until we get to invent those kinetic energy barriers, we are in for a lot of hurt...
@AnnStoddard
@AnnStoddard Год назад
All Ballistic Missile reentry bodies are in fact High Hypersonic. Mack 10 to 25 but most have a predictable trajectory. Hypersonic cruise missiles are Mach 5+ and a different beast.
@AnnStoddard
@AnnStoddard Год назад
This is why the Reagan Star Wars concept scared the hell out of Russia. Killing Ballistic Missiles in the mid course trajectory from space with a laser or a small nuclear interceptor had its advantages destroying the Warhead equipment section before it ejected the Reentry vehicles.
@okakokakiev787
@okakokakiev787 Год назад
Diffirence being actual hypersonic kinzhal doesnt need a nuke warhead to be effective because it is a precision weapon with
@geronimomiles312
@geronimomiles312 Год назад
Very clear , brilliant! 👍
@Medieval_Arpad_cooks
@Medieval_Arpad_cooks Год назад
very enlightening, thank you!
@basilb4733
@basilb4733 Год назад
Excellent.
@victorsturdivant4731
@victorsturdivant4731 Год назад
Good report.
@peteredridge9559
@peteredridge9559 5 месяцев назад
Fascinating subject and told in such an understandable yet interesting way. Thanks, great job.
@nephilimcrt
@nephilimcrt Год назад
Very informative. Thank you.
@s.b.asokadissanayake4276
@s.b.asokadissanayake4276 Год назад
Physics was my childhood fascination and logic behind is very difficult to master. This presentation is pretty good. There is a wide gap between theory and practice.
@ZidanTaufiq712
@ZidanTaufiq712 Год назад
The only thing I highly anticipate is the sudden elephant on screen. Now, I can re-watch the video with sound 😅
@TurboHappyCar
@TurboHappyCar Год назад
That elephant is terrifying 😯😂
@markdittell
@markdittell Год назад
Thank you for bringing an HONEST enlightment of facts
@JoaoPaulo-th6sb
@JoaoPaulo-th6sb Год назад
excellent piece!
@garyulrich8172
@garyulrich8172 10 месяцев назад
Great overview of the issues associated with hypersonic missiles. One area you failed to address was the tremendous kinetic energy associated with HMs which would make them much more lethal than conventional cruise missiles.
@domesday1535
@domesday1535 Год назад
I'm more interested in some form of a DEW functioning like a directed EMP than railgun but either do seem like the only options on the table other than some of the more theoretical ideas that are on a more distant horizon. I think a low orbit interceptor launcher could be something we see in the next century or so for example. Most of your videos are excellent but this was a particularly good one, packed with good info. Thank you for the effort you clearly go through to put it together
@tommarquez1980
@tommarquez1980 Год назад
You make complex things very intuitive!
@sharokhankhan23
@sharokhankhan23 Год назад
amazing!!! thank you very much for your work
@vmachell43
@vmachell43 11 месяцев назад
Great Channel!
@amail1111
@amail1111 Год назад
With current technology there is no hypersonic weapon that flies faster than c.Mach 2.5-3 at the moment of impact. There is yet no material known on this planet able to withstand higher temps. than c. Mach3 at sea level (or a few thousand feet above). What the missile does on its course at v. high altitude is another business. Still, the sheer impact of a heavy body flying Mach 2.3-3 is unpleasant and the impact itself, even without explosive, is best to be avoided.
@Barefoot433
@Barefoot433 Год назад
Correct. And they should try to avoid our railgun sabots, as well as our speed of light focused lasers.
@turningnull2538
@turningnull2538 Год назад
Sounds very naive in research
@crowe6961
@crowe6961 Год назад
@@turningnull2538 The bleeding edge of materials science is going to be under a veil of secrecy if they're doing their jobs right.
@clairecelestin8437
@clairecelestin8437 Год назад
I got a lot from this video. Previously, I believed that that the sensing and communications blindfold caused by the plasma envelope would prevent hypersonics from being practical, especially against moving targets, but apparently I overestimated how big of an obstacle that is. Thank you!
@ginolospazzino5261
@ginolospazzino5261 Год назад
Outstanding video as always! :)
@sgtrock68
@sgtrock68 Год назад
I was in Lance missile guarding the Fulda Gap at the end of the cold war, and I was with Patriot in Desert Storm. I was a field artillery surveyor/forward observer in the US Army so I also worked with guns, MLRS, and HAWK missile. I've been out of the loop for a long time. I've heard the Patriot of today only shares the name with my missiles and that these actually hit the target rather than exploding in the targets path. If that's true, that alone seems like it would make the accuracy needed astronomical. In my day the Patriot was more about it's radars capabilities than the missiles, and without radar the missiles aren't doing much. This really is a different era in warfare and I don't think I like it. It might be time to go back to cheap AAA guns and cover the skies with shrapnel and hope for the hyper missile to fly through it. Surely hitting even a BB at M5 would bad, wouldn't it?
@georgesikimeti2184
@georgesikimeti2184 Год назад
the current radar system in the modern patriot is the game changer since desert storm,it has been discussed extensively by former military analysts about its current radar capability,again you’re right,radar system is the improvement since Iraqi war.
@octoslut
@octoslut Год назад
ballistic aa guns are effective but costly, they run through ammo so fast.
@sacco_vanzetti
@sacco_vanzetti Год назад
@@georgesikimeti2184 Oh, come on, man! 😄
@georgesikimeti2184
@georgesikimeti2184 Год назад
@@sacco_vanzettiwell 100 percent is certainly an improvement over 40 percent back in Hussein days,I think so!you?
@sacco_vanzetti
@sacco_vanzetti Год назад
@@georgesikimeti2184 Mmmh - I like to learn, do you have a tip or link to relevant, serious "technical literature, so that I can read it myself ? In any case, I strongly doubt the current suitability of the system; after all, there are recordings in which more than 20 Patriots are fired at obviously irrelevant targets within a short period of time and shortly thereafter something detonates in the system's location. It seems that the Achilles heel of the system has been found - or are we talking past each other now? Which then is probably my fault...^^
@stupidburp
@stupidburp Год назад
US modern subsonic missiles are more stealthy which is a more effective factor aiding penetration of defenses than modest hypersonic velocities. This switches back in favor of velocities at the higher end where you have orbital speeds in excess of Mach 20 for intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs). But at the lower end of hypersonics around Mach 5 to Mach 8 which is typical of hypersonic cruise missiles, interception is more feasible and cost effective and stealth would be more effective overall. Hypersonic speeds are inherently bad for stealth because of the air disruption involved which can be detected easily by the same
@stupidburp
@stupidburp Год назад
Many of the much hyped hypersonic missiles currently in service reduce to velocities below Mach 5 during the end phase of flight because of the density of atmosphere at lower altitudes which is difficult to overcome unless it is unrestricted orbital reentry with ICBMs. Missile speeds below Mach 5 are common and within the capability of many current air defense systems to intercept without severe restrictions in effective range. Patriot shooting down Kinzhal in combat is proof of this.
@user-dp4ok9ox5w
@user-dp4ok9ox5w Год назад
​@@stupidburp Patriot did not shoot down a Kinzhal, that is fake news (even Ukrainian air defence denied this and Russia had not launched any when this was claimed, plus the images and vids were fakes). Oh and seems like you have a hard time even understanding hypersonic missiles and it is funny how you are trying to live in the past. Sub-sonic missiles are stealthy just for the fact that they can hug the ground, but that does not mean they cannot be shot down even by radar guided or IR guided point defence gunfire.
@Smytjf11
@Smytjf11 Год назад
​@@user-dp4ok9ox5w all that matters about hypersonic missiles is that we can down them.
@user-dp4ok9ox5w
@user-dp4ok9ox5w Год назад
@@Smytjf11 Yes and you can win in lottery too, but that does not mean you will. Or that nuclear bomb is just a bomb too, but that does not mean its not less powerful or equal to a conventional bomb.
@pahatpahat9566
@pahatpahat9566 Год назад
@@stupidburp , I thought shooting down the kinzhal is just claim by Zelensky, Has he offered the evidence?
@echen71
@echen71 Год назад
Love this type of content! Another great vid!!!
@Manbemanbe
@Manbemanbe Год назад
A useful contribution to the hypersonics discussion on RU-vid. Thanks for the video
@scrumptiousbutternut6129
@scrumptiousbutternut6129 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video. Its too bad about all the bot spam in the comments.
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 Год назад
Hope counter-measures like “Glide-Breaker” for glide Hypersonic missiles can be discussed. From another you tuber, hypersonic missiles are a game changer though their high cost (fighter-jet level cost for what is a munition) means they will be deployed when a critical target needs to be serviced immediately.
@diawannoto
@diawannoto 11 месяцев назад
Kinzhal still much cheaper than fighter jets
@juslee746
@juslee746 Год назад
Such a great video! Thank you
@wkrapek
@wkrapek Год назад
You are so cool. Thank you for this. Another example of why I always wait to hear what *you* have to say about things like this.
@dedsert9653
@dedsert9653 Год назад
bubbles no harm? try getting one in your eye
@ohhellnah232
@ohhellnah232 11 месяцев назад
But doesn't it mean that Hypersonic aren't as much of a threat as others make out to be? I mean important installation are protected by Launchers that will act as point defence and the rest of the area doesn't require that much defence as HM are very costly. No body is going to rain BM on another so if you can defend Important installation it severely limits the threat posed by them. Also thanks for teaching us important stuff in such a easy to learn way.
@Millennium7HistoryTech
@Millennium7HistoryTech 11 месяцев назад
The point is that you can't get away with area defence, you need a point defence wherever there is a target.
@Thuddster
@Thuddster Год назад
Another fine video, sir. I've been thinking about railgun tech a great deal lately, and their use in hypersonic threat defense. Please explore!
@richardbradley1532
@richardbradley1532 Год назад
I need a coffee too. Not that the video isn't hugely interesting.
@NORGCO
@NORGCO Год назад
The mention of Laser defences reminds me of a posting about US Navy laser systems tested after installation on destroyers since 2014. They are apparently in the 60kw power range and very useful against drones. Also CHEAP, at $1 to $10 per shot, as opposed to $1 Million to $10 Million per shot with ship-based SAMs. They are talking about needing to boost power levels up to at least 1Mw if killing hypersonic antiship missiles is required. Still a lot cheaper per shot than missiles that would be up to the job, and with Gerald Ford-class carriers roughly 300mw of nuclear powerplant to keep the electricity supply up, workable. Of course, this ignores the detail of rain. The cliche is that missiles - say hypersonic anti-ship ones - can fly through rain, but lasers won't fire through it. So either some way of overcoming this problem or avoiding it has to be used. Say, put the laser in a high-altitude aircraft. Lasers apparently work much better at 30,000 or 60,000 feet. Hopefully, they could engage before the missiles drop to near sea level for the final run-up to the target. Keeping laser battle stations like this permanently orbiting anything needing defending would not be easy, and add one, two, or perhaps three zeros to any given nation's defence budget. Or of course satellite battle stations, you would need a lot of them because any given one would not be overhead long or REALLY powerful ones in geosynchronous orbit, and this is more Death Star pointed at Earth material which would trigger would wide protest movements, questions about "What are these people smoking and where can I get some of it?" and cost rather a lot of money. I enjoyed your latest posting and appreciate the work put into it. Maybe I read too much Robert Heinlein in my youth.
@jebise1126
@jebise1126 Год назад
rain is i guess least of your problems as hypersonics are made to withstand extreme heat. laser cause extreme heat... so yeah. also loose power with distance a lot so heat on target will be really short.
@Meoldson
@Meoldson Год назад
@@jebise1126 The heat caused by a 1MW laser is a hell of a lot hotter than the heat caused by air resistance.
@martinboskovic1009
@martinboskovic1009 Год назад
Beautifull, intelligent, understandandable explanation great!
@derrychen6923
@derrychen6923 Год назад
Again,Thank you so much for the detailed info
@jeffersonblackmon
@jeffersonblackmon Год назад
The Chinese hypersonic missile was tested over 9 years ago. And the newer hypersonic technology has options to travel at mach 3 to 4 on initiation or can travel at mach 9. It is not hard to see that theses weapons initial design was to take out carriers and major naval vessels, giving them little time to respond.
@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle
Yeah the Americans were the first to create the technology, and then they stopped because there were no adversarial threats at the time and they didn't have the budget for it, so they cut it. Then Russia and China took the concept and are bettering it every single day. Now the US is playing catch up. Politicians are one of the most unhelpful beings for the United States.
@nerdyali4154
@nerdyali4154 Год назад
The Chinese will have a problem targeting a carrier hundreds of miles away. never take Russian or Chinese claims at face value. The Russians put a lot of effort into hyping up their platforms in the Western media and the Chinese super high tech claims are mostly smoke and mirrors. For really high end stuff they still rely on stealing technology.
@georgesikimeti2184
@georgesikimeti2184 Год назад
@@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehiclethe u.s rightly developed the defensive capabilities to nullify this hypersonic sonic via much improved AWACS and low altitude satellites for 360 degrees coverage of detection and tracking,better decision.
@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle
@@georgesikimeti2184 Then tell me why the Pentagon and Congress are trying to make a satellite connection for hypersonic weapons specifically. They don't have the defensive capabilities yet.
@georgesikimeti2184
@georgesikimeti2184 Год назад
@@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehiclesatellite provide data to command control,once analysed together with other electronic sources,pass on to the hit man to do the deed,simple if you’ve the tools!,again identify,tracking and control are the jobs for awacs,satellites and electronics, not quite there but will soon,oh the u.s have a new branch to its military called space warfare,in addition to army,navy,airforce and marines.
@jefferyzhang1851
@jefferyzhang1851 Год назад
It just occurred to me that in the age of hypersonics, an additional possibility opens up: the hypersonic decoy. Basically something like the Chinese WZ-8 drone optimized for decoy rather than recon. Look like a hypersonic missile on radar and flying on an easy to intercept trajectory against enemy AD. Once the enemy fires their interceptors you turn and fly back to base. The interceptors won't have the kinematics to intercept if fired at max range assuming the original interception trajectory. You can do this as many times as necessary to force the enemy to expend their interceptor missiles because your decoys are reusable so the attrition ratio will be in favor of offense. If the enemy is forced to wait until your hypersonic missiles enter the no-escape zone of their interceptors, their interception range will be negligible and their probability of intercept will take a huge hit against actual hypersonic missiles.
@SonnyKnutson
@SonnyKnutson Год назад
@Jeffery Zhang I think you don't fully understand the forces acting upon something hypersonic. They cover ~2000+ meters per second. 2km+ in a second. That isn't something you just "turn" and go back to base. Doing any movements that are more than slight adjustments will most likely tear the craft apart. Not to mention. If you turn to go back home. A 180 degree turn. Play with the idea that a hypersonic weapon could turn 5 degrees per second at those speeds. It would take 36 seconds to turn around fully. You have already flown by and passed the decoy target at that time. I think it's better to create decoys that is designed to be more maneuverable and just try to avoid the incoming interceptors for as long as it can while continuing into enemy territory. Sacrificing the decoy in the end. It would still most likely cause multiple interceptors to be launched. Especially if you send a few decoys at once.
@georgesikimeti2184
@georgesikimeti2184 Год назад
Current technology (classified) can differentiate decoys from real via electronic pulses differences emitted via advanced radar sensors, somewhat like sonar in subsmarine,yeah wide span capability can discriminate,not a problem.
@patrickkenyon2326
@patrickkenyon2326 Год назад
​@@georgesikimeti2184 Picking up the active radar transmission? Sure, that's easy.
@patrickkenyon2326
@patrickkenyon2326 Год назад
Turning around will only take 200 kilometers...
@georgesikimeti2184
@georgesikimeti2184 Год назад
@@patrickkenyon23262016,Raytheon upgraded the radars to include much smaller wavelengths to pick up not only the heat but also the noise emission pulse,the patriot system of 2003 is daylight behind the current,most doubters used the older version to define the current capability,that’s idiot at its best.
@JYF921
@JYF921 Год назад
Beautiful hand drawings!
@rolands.6439
@rolands.6439 Год назад
Great Video! Thank you.
@sprescav
@sprescav 11 месяцев назад
I better put up my umbrella (channel Z)
@ovidiudraghici9941
@ovidiudraghici9941 11 месяцев назад
Well explained. The Patriot in Kiev fired ~30 interceptors in a couple of minutes and still got hit by the Kinzhal.
@montecristo7203
@montecristo7203 11 месяцев назад
there were multiple kinzhals fired at it,not just one.
@radumirescu7275
@radumirescu7275 11 месяцев назад
@@montecristo7203 actually there were 6 and another tens of cruise missiles and the Patriot radar was not hit, only one interceptor
@amazin7006
@amazin7006 11 месяцев назад
Patriot was never hit by a Kinzhal
@montecristo7203
@montecristo7203 11 месяцев назад
@@amazin7006 whatever u say idiot clown . Patriot is such a shitty system it can be targeted for it's radar signatrue, because US thought they would always use it vs small countries
@jamesmandahl444
@jamesmandahl444 11 месяцев назад
@amazin I think it indeed was.
@ghostmourn
@ghostmourn Год назад
I really enjoy your sharing of so much knowledge. This kind of blew my mind. So very interesting!
@jakelilevjen9766
@jakelilevjen9766 Год назад
I’m thankful for your clear explanation that also does not attempt to make it seem simple (or overly complex). Maneuvering hypersonic weapons are challenging, yes, but not impossible. For now, it seems the uses are mostly offensive in nature, until we can improve the technological readiness to have highly maneuverable bodies.
@zahh6083
@zahh6083 Год назад
I think you know what your talking about. Some of these so called experts raise my blood pressure with nonsense they post. Thank you for another great video.
@Annou7la
@Annou7la Год назад
Any references to cost of hypersonic vs cost of saturation attacks? I mean the usa military has concluded multiple times that saturation attacks are cheaper and more effective.
@mostlymessingabout
@mostlymessingabout Год назад
... must be why they're poring in billion$ to catch up to "third" world countries like Russia North Korea and Iran then 😂
@princesofthepower3690
@princesofthepower3690 Год назад
Against targets like bunkers, yeah maybe, but against aircraft carriers and Command Control centres dead centre in a enemy’s air defence network, probably not.
@KSmithwick1989
@KSmithwick1989 Год назад
​​@@mostlymessingabout The US deployed hypersonic weapons earlier in 2023. LRHW is capable of Mach 17 and is deployed on HEMTT trucks. The Zumwalt-class is currently being modified as a sea-based platform. The gun wells are being replaced by missle cells.
@jonathanpfeffer3716
@jonathanpfeffer3716 Год назад
War isn’t a raw numbers game, think of logistics. Saturation only works if you are able to transport a huge amount of munitions everywhere anytime you need them and move them around extremely efficiently, which nobody, including even the US, can do consistently for a sustained period. Your enemy gets a vote too, and relying on the assumption that your logistics will work perfectly all the time is a great way to lose a war.
@Warpathallthetime
@Warpathallthetime Год назад
Your content is now top notch and I love the work you put into it..The content and effort gives me the sense I can trust the information. Something not easily achieved today.
@marshallmonroe8803
@marshallmonroe8803 Год назад
Good video. I appreciate the information
@The8thSpirit
@The8thSpirit Год назад
@Millennium7HistoryTech This is a really interesting topic. There is another consideration about it. Don't underestimate the role of integrated command and control systems. Your analysis is based on a radar only sensoring system and single point detection. But what if the defenders are using a system, which could deploy a 3D coverage detection system including satellite sensing capabilities and interconnect detection data of the entire sensoring systems of all radars and satellite detection data in real time? You would no more rely on single detection of localized sensorics, but combine all SIGINT capabilities available for the designated area in need of protection. This would give you a vastly better real time detection and analysis of the entire trajectory of the incoming missile(s). We know at least since Stanislav Petrov saved the world by not throwing the entire Soviet atomic arsenal at the world, that every missile launch on earth can be detected by satellites and integrated detection systems. And now we are half a century apart. So the sensoring capabilities should enable the defence forces to follow and track every projectile on its route towards the designated target. There is another thing. The velocity and directional profiling of the projectile. This ability would allow the attacker to obfuscate the trajectory and the end target at least to a certain extent. And even more important: if the cruising speed of the missile remains below the speed of building up plasma around the vehicle disabling all guidance communications and all onboard sensor systems, and additionally getting propgrammed with an "intelligent" non-linear flight path, it could fly around all known or recently detected defense countermeasure systems making it much harder to be intercepted.
@SonnyKnutson
@SonnyKnutson Год назад
@The8thSpirit There are many problems with what you say but some of it is possible and true. I know for example that Sweden has integrated a lot of it's systems to share date and use data fusion to increase the detection capabilities and combat awareness. (I am sure many other nations also have this to varying degrees). However, Satellites can't detect well in bad weather. The reason they can detect intercontinental ballistic missiles better is because they are launched from fixed positions that is pre-known. Aka, easy to keep track of. They are also very big. Most other missile launchers move around and is more difficult to track. The missiles are smaller etc. I am sure you could detect some of them using your idea and I think they are more and more moving towards solutions like this. It's a complex issue.
@georgesikimeti2184
@georgesikimeti2184 Год назад
Radar is always been the only the missing link to a perfected a defensive system and it’s still a work in progress phenomenon until it can pickup every electronic pulse in the killing zone,integrated radars to include satellites(360 degrees coverage)and electronic sensors are all pointing toward that perfection goal,it’s difficult but not impossible,a good analysis though.
@The8thSpirit
@The8thSpirit Год назад
@@SonnyKnutson Which "many" problems do you mean? Nearly everything I've said has already happened in Ukraine as of now. Please look for the Joint Multi Domain Integration system IBCS made by Northrop Grumman. The US has delivered 2 or 3 of them to Ukraine some months ago. Each sensor type has its own pros and cons. That's the reason for multi domain integration for combining the data of all available sensor systems to the best possible situational awareness. The technical difficulty is indeed to distinguish the electromagnetic signatures of a missile and weather induced discharges. Once again, if you combine infrared and radar data and apply trajectory interpolation, you could filter out the missile movement, right? Is there any weather phenomenon drawing a horizontal movement like a missile? The detection of a missile signature isn't only about the EM signal strength of the exhaust gases. 1980's are long over. It's also about the characteristical scheme of the signal trajectory.
@The8thSpirit
@The8thSpirit Год назад
@@georgesikimeti2184 As I have read the latest Ramstein list, advanced radar systems are already on the way to the field.
@borislavkrstic6366
@borislavkrstic6366 Год назад
When everything is added up and subtracted, the conclusion is: theoretically, it is possible to intercept and shoot down hypersonic missiles, but in practice, we need to wait for another period of unknown how many years, so that something like that would be feasible in practice. Or more precisely, it is not possible today to intercept and destroy a hypersonic missile.
@ArtificialLife-GameOfficialAcc
ukraine has stopped 7 khinzal hipersonic missiles in this days, 6 on the same day, patriot uas used for it
@paulshirtliff5972
@paulshirtliff5972 Год назад
@@ArtificialLife-GameOfficialAcc turn on the news usa just admitted cause they had too. that pat is junk russia winner
@Shrouded_reaper
@Shrouded_reaper Год назад
​@ArtificialLife-GameOfficialAcc Read that on CNN did you? I also saw the pictures of the sewer pipes they claimed were shot down hypersonic missiles, as if anything would be left except dust if a missile is intercepted at mach 5+ LOL. Not good for MIC if their bajillion dollar toys are presented as anything less than wunderwaffen.
@michaelmoore6484
@michaelmoore6484 Год назад
@@ArtificialLife-GameOfficialAcc Oh, you true believer of Ukraine's wet dreams and NATO's science fiction propaganda!
@ExarchGaming
@ExarchGaming Год назад
@@Shrouded_reaper that's....not true at all. you can very clearly see from successful tests that the target is not atomized/vaporized. All ya'll russian bots out here thinking the khinzal is something special...it's just an air launched iskandr missile, we've been able to shoot down those kind of ballistic missiles for decades. This isn't your "special"(and probably fake) avengard HVP missile. The missile fires in a predictable arc, that the patriot's guidance radar can easily predict. If we've learned anything about Russia in the last year, is that their offensive capabilities are vastly over-rated by western security analysis. You can't lose that much personal and armor against a country a quarter of the size of yours. If this information was solely being presented by CNN, or MSNBC in the USA...okay I could see your point, but this information is widespread across many many many outlets. With only Russia's state media claiming differently. If you're american, and you're that skeptical of the media, I have no idea how you literally take Russian Media at face value so brazenly. Look at what has happened in Russia, if you want to see some of it from an inside perspective from someone that was born and raised in Russia, go look at NFKRZ's channel, he explains how bad the propaganda is there. And if you and michaelmoore are just Russian Troll bot accounts, then nothing I could say, even if I had vlad on video, confirming it to be true, would change your mind; as you're not out here to see the truth, you're just doing the bidding of the Kremlin, probably for cash. If it happens to be you're an actual human being, that is able to have rational thoughts, look up Alexei Moskalyov, and tell me that if Joe Biden was doing that here, that you wouldn't be absolutely incindiary. Go look up the statement from Maria Ponomarenko as she was sentenced to 6 years in prison for denouncing the bombing of the Mariupol theater, where 300--600 civilians were killed by Russian Bombers. It was broadcast on Russian TV, you can see her in that weird little cage they put the defendant in. Go look at her statement, and place yourself in her shoes, and if you were to get 6 years in prison for denouncing joe biden. How you respond to this, will tell everyone whether you're an actual human being, or just another Russian bot.
@christiankrueger8048
@christiankrueger8048 Год назад
Thank you!
@gutpunch6724
@gutpunch6724 Год назад
Excellent content as always.
@ulikemyname6744
@ulikemyname6744 Год назад
Nowhere in the video diid you talk about actually establishing reliable communications. It is not enough to have just some kind of communication. That is especially true if you want to hit a moving target. Satellite communications are especially bad. Due to the nature of the satellite communications they are really easily compromised by things like bad weather (clouds, rain, fog etc). Also they travel from a very long distances so the delay is greater. In both cases the closer you are the less impact it experiences. So we need constalation like Starlink maybe to successfully establish somewhat of a reliable communication with the hypersonics.
@FrantisekPicifuk
@FrantisekPicifuk Год назад
Well, he said solvable via satelites, not optimal via satelites.
@ulikemyname6744
@ulikemyname6744 Год назад
@@FrantisekPicifuk Actually it is optimal by a satellite as there is no other option. But with the current satellite constalations, except if Starlink is not used for guidance or at least establishing communications between the missile and a ground base, nothing else would make it even remotely as reliable as it should be. China and Russia claim to have those, yet the only nation that somewhat has the capability to make these communications possible and the nation that has the largest amount of experience regarding hypersonic technologies is currently incapable of creating a realible weapon system that can be useful in war.
@rosevitelli5814
@rosevitelli5814 Год назад
They are way ahead of you but you are correct I believe they are doing this as we speak and Elon is helping ✌️
@ulikemyname6744
@ulikemyname6744 Год назад
@@rosevitelli5814 Currently I do believe the US is the closest from fielding what we believe a hypersonic weapon system is. They are early adopters of the technology and amassed a lot of experience in developing and testing such systems. Idk if ELon can help but I do know that Starlink can potentially be used for communication purposes between a ground base and the missile.
@Srulio
@Srulio Год назад
Thanks for this explanation. The fog production machine is very busy explaining how the Mach 2 Patriot can shoot down the Mach 10 Kinjal
@sprucemaroose
@sprucemaroose Год назад
Heard of the concept of interception? Doesn't need to match the speed to intercept.
@kyzoaryant9905
@kyzoaryant9905 Год назад
@sprucemaroose Any turtle can intercept bullet train if the slow turtle know where the railtrack
@paulshirtliff5972
@paulshirtliff5972 Год назад
@@sprucemaroose usa n nato weapons are losing bad is the simpler way to duh
@sprucemaroose
@sprucemaroose Год назад
@@paulshirtliff5972 yep USA and nato are terrified of what they are seeing on the front line. The unstoppable Russian march to take 0.25km of land is truly staggering 🤣
@Shrouded_reaper
@Shrouded_reaper Год назад
Nice air defense system you have there. Be a shame if your enemies forced you to expend your 10, 50, 100m, how many dollars each? Missiles to intercept some shitty bottle rockets and then dropping real ordinance on you once your battery is dry LOL.
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