Hyundai Ioniq 5 - Canadian Winter Road Trip 

Quebec Circuit Electrique constantly work to improve and are continually evaluating software, billing, hardware and location. And, constantly adding locations and upgrading the existing chargers. The street level 2 charging is really ubiquitous.

Thanks - I have been a bit slack lately due to a bit of life creeping in.

Thanks for watching - you have interesting vids as well.

Grizzl-E.... Simply awesome. We have the most simple version. And, the dip switches are set to charge at 24Amps. I take it with me and plug into NEMA 14-50 plugs. You saw me pouring hot water on the aluminum bracket to free it from ice to remove. Very easy.

It takes 1.22 hours to fully charge from discharge it takes me 15 minutes to get a full tank on my truck pay and leave 😂😂😂😂😂

​​@@user-cs7he5zb9iEV drivers who have half a clue never fully charge at a fast charger. There is no need. The charging generally takes only as long as what else you're doing at that stop. Restroom, food, stretch the legs, maybe wash the windshield. Then on your way. Tesla drivers normally charge between 15 to 20 minutes at a stop. Ioniq 5 and EV6 about the same.

Thanks. Will do.

I think I was cold and irrational - thanks for watching.

Electric cars have exactly the same fluids as an ice except for the engine oil

Thanks for watching. That Florida trip is certainly appealing. BBQ. Ribs. Sunscreen.

Thanks. It is much colder today......

Thanks for watching.

Very effective. And, it works very well - the implementation is actually very clever.

​@@brucemacneilI don't agree. Because we don't know the temperature of the battery, its very hard to preheat the battery to the correct temperature. A 50kwh session may need a 20 minutes preheating period but a 225 kwh may need an hour. We need a specific screen with battery temperature and requirements for fastest charging session.

Nice meeting you - and yea eh.

I get around 22KWh per 100kms in winter without making any special effort to conserve. I generally drive 110KPH.

@@brucemacneil Thanks. That’s not bad in the cold at highway speed!

Yes - More expensive for you - and for the Bolt. And, removes an incentive to purchase a faster charging vehicle. And, the tremendous increase in price of DC charging runs counter to the public policy efforts to decrease GHG emissions. And, the electricity generation is a public resource - BC Hydro Dams, OPG Nuclear, Hydro Quebec Dams, Nova Scotia Coal generation plants, Newfoundland and Labrador hydroelectric - all of these are created by government resource. In the United States - the same idea applies.

Keep your car you’d be better off!!

Cost summary was at the very end of the video. Tesla drivers report that the time they spend charging, about 15 to 20 minutes per stop, unless they take longer for a meal or kids, is very restful. And the drive itself is also relatively much more relaxing than driving ICE due to reduced noise and vibration as well as a good "Autopilot" driver assistance system. And I'm sure this also applies to the Ioniq 5 and EV6. This may not necessarily make the trip shorter, but it keeps the time close to ICE vehicle times, and may make the time "go by" much faster.

I'm responding with 10 years and half a million kilomètres of EV driving in a Tesla Model S (4 years), a Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh (5 years) and an Ioniq 5 (1 year) behind me. Not in Canada, but in similar climat. EVs are not ICE cars with electric motors instead of an engine. They are different, and have different pros and cons. There are several important things to consider, which can go terribly wrong before you even take delivery of your first EV. Make an informed purchachsing decision. Don't rely on your dealer for advice, most of them dont know what they are talking about. As for your questions: If you dont need to wee, eat and drink for 900km, you will require less time with an ICE car. That's very obvious. How much longer will depend on the EV you have, your experience and a number of other factors. However, if you take a break or two anyways, you won't notice much of a difference. There's a learning curve to travelling long distance with an EV. Please don't take a 1000km road trip first thing you have an EV. It's not difficult, but different, and you will struggle if you don't know what you do. Remember, you and everyone around you grew up with ICE vehicles, but most people never even drove an EV. This video, like many others, make everything look simple and it is, because the bloke knows his car and the ins and outs of charging etc. If everything is new to you, you may run into problems such as having to figure out how to start a charger, a cold battery, or other easily avoidable nuisances that you may not even easily be able to identifie at first. DC charging prices vary, but it's not cheap and I dont think it will become cheaper in the immediate future. Choose a car with enough range to cover your commute and other daily driving, thus enabling you to cover a large portion of your driving with home charging. If you dont need to DC charge on a daily basis, fast charging will not have a noticable impact on your overall cost. If you do a lot of long distance travelling (>500km), remember that efficiency and fast charging always trump range. Buy a car that can take a 10-80% charge in under half an hour, preferably under 25 minutes, even in winter. If you do a lot of midrange travelling (100-500km), range is more important.

Thanks for info. Please do not forget all the benefits especially the clean air aspect.

Thanks for the thoughtful comments.

Thanks, I am curious, why would you say that?

Tired of the rat race. EV's seen to be a call back to a simpler time. None of this stop here, gas up an be on your way in less than 5 minutes. I honestly envy the relaxed approach EVs bring.

The only people I can stand to be around are my Dad, Mom, wife and 2 kids. I can handle by brothers and other in-laws, but my anxiety is peeking at that point. No clue why I'm that way, whether it's my PTSD, or various other diagnosis the doctors have given me. Nothing seems to cure it.

If you live in NY or other big city, EV chargers are very rare for row housing and apartment dwellers. It may be fine for this guy in a low population and quiet town.

@@brandonsheffield9873 lol what are you on about? i hope it meant to be funny because i started laughing reading it :)

Realistically - in all of North America. Though California may debate that.

@@brucemacneilI’m not sure what criteria they were using. Tesla is getting ready for the onslaught of new electric vehicles that will plug directly into Tesla Superchargers!

@@mitchellbarnow1709 Suggest a close look at Quebec. Maybe a visit?

Do you have a link?

Good question. In reality - that never happens: or at least it never happened to me. Other than that the same more or less as when a gas pump is frozen.

Yes, seems like that was a Tesla SC hiccup.

From what's been reported (not in the news, but by experienced observers on RU-vid), it seems that Chicago was recently struck by a case of Tesla Fever, with many people buying Teslas who don't have home charging, and at the same time, many ride share drivers getting deals on Bolts, Niros and Teslas. These new inexperienced drivers have made a lot of rookie mistakes, like hogging chargers up to 100%, not preconditioning, or waiting in long lines with preconditioning on the whole time draining the battery. Given the background condition that charging infrastructure in Chicago is way behind what is and will be needed, plus some of the existing chargers being offline, and there were some definite issues. It was a highly exceptional situation, and affected a few dozen people for about 2 days. And of course meanwhile ICE cars drivers were not without their own challenges in the extreme cold. But it highlighted several areas where improvements can and will be made. 1) More L2 charging is needed. This is true everywhere. The rollout of these chargers is underway, but the pace does need to be picked up. 2) More fast chargers are needed, and their reliability needs to be improved. This is also in the works. EV fast charging stations are being brought online in the US at a rate of more than one per day. 3) Better driver education is needed. 4) Some improvements are needed in EVs to make them more "idiot-proof" and to better adapt them to a wider range of applications. We're in basically the first generation of mass market EVs, like rev. 1.2. The next generation can and will be better. 5) Ride share companies need to take some responsibility for helping their drivers access the charging they need. 6) Municipalities need to take some responsibility for helping all drivers access the on street charging that pretty much EVERYONE is going to need, going forward. You can find some excellent first hand reporting on the Chicago situation, and excellent analysis, on the Out of Spec podcast and the Batteries Included podcast. Both are available on RU-vid.

@@davidmenasco5743 Very excellent comments. In general - I have to agree. My experience and observation of different regions - the solution to any EV difficulty is more EV and more charging. The true breathtaking access to DC and level 2 charging in Quebec is a window to the future for every region.

Wow, time to retire the tinfoil hat!

Thanks for watching and paying attention. I have a video where I try and make a better explanation on that point. That aside - most people seem to want per KWh because of making the false analogy with gasoline. Then - per KWh happens and the same people then wish a return to per minute.

Interesting. Where do you get that idea??? The charging stops coincide with meals and bathroom breaks and the facilities are very very comfortable. Charging is generally faster than filling our Honda Pilot with gasoline.

@@brucemacneil Every EV charger station here is an afterthought in back of some parking lot exposed to whatever is falling from the sky. There isn't ever even a windshield wash bucket or trashcan nearby. You can hike to the host store to beg for their restroom. Unlike the warm, full service, fully covered gas station's attendant serviced lanes regularly cleaned and filled with paper towels, clean windshield wash soapy water and overseen so unprofitable dead pumps are fixed in hours not weeks like EV stalls. Why do rich EV buyers put up with this crap? Handicapped ICE drivers only have to ask and the attendant will service you.

Go lie down

Yes

Enjoy the E-bus.

Outdoor charging equipment is designed to charge cars outdoors. So, for example, during the rain and the snow. You know, practically every submarine ever built uses electric motors for propulsion when submerged. It's not magic either, it's called "engineering."

That’s a good way to cut down overpopulation.

Outdoor charging equipment is designed to charge cars outdoors. So, for example, during the rain and the snow. You know, practically every submarine ever built uses electric motors for propulsion when submerged. It's not magic either, it's called "engineering."

Ah. If you pay attention, you'll notice that he unplugged the charger from the electrical outlet before walking in to get the water. So no danger or wrong doing. Actually he showed the correct way of dying this. 😊

Guess you missed him unplugging first.

Like it never rains on hydro lines.

Thanks for saving me time.

got yer back bro. @@aaron___6014

I guess you never heard of a little thing called Climate Change.

@@davidmenasco5743 how far do we go to reduce climate change though. Because the best solution would be nuclear, no independent travel except for human powered, regulated and restricted diets, government regulated and minimal ultra dense housing, no independent shopping. Basically the best thing to prevent it is to eliminate all freedoms. So you're saying let's get started?

​@@aaron___6014You ask an important question. Before answering, we have to ask first, what's at stake. How quickly we stop burning fossil fuels will determine how much food your great grandkids have to eat for dinner. That's the basic situation we're in, broadly speaking. I'd say, a little inconvenience now is a small price to pay if it makes the difference that is needed. Of course there are many moving parts to the overall problem. I have looked at a lot of them. It's kind of a hobby of mine, partly because I'm just curious about things. Here's the bottom line: Oil extraction, refining and transport are expensive and polluting enterprises. Being capital intensive means that they get massive government subsidies, and at the same time are massively profitable (a classic case of "capitalism for the poor and socialism for the rich"), leading to extreme concentrations of wealth and power. (The subsidies alone amount to 7% of global GDP). These concentrations of power actually distort the democratic process anywhere fossil fuel companies feel they have a stake. Meanwhile, EVs are about 3 times more efficient than ICE vehicles (maybe 2x to 5x depending on what you count and how). They also run on electricity, which can be generated by solar and wind power with battery storage (these technologies can be built out in half the time and one third the cost of nuclear - and time is a critical factor in dealing with climate change, as noted above - but this doesn't mean nuclear couldn't also play a role). So in the long run, the energy transition will have three additional benefits beyond solving the climate crisis. 1) Lower the health impacts of air pollution and water contamination. 2) Reduced total cost of energy for transportation. 3) Liberating governments everywhere from the de facto veto power currently exercised by fossil fuel companies over both policy and legislation. I'd say taking all these things together makes the energy transition seem like a great idea that can't be implemented fast enough. As for the cars, there are advantages and disadvantages of both EV and ICE. But in the long run, only EVs will be part of the solution to climate change. And in the long run, two things will be true: 1) EV owners will have just about all the freedoms that ICE owners have today, plus a few that they don't have (for example, the ability to generate your own fuel at home for free after your solar/storage system is paid off in 7 years). 2) History students will see the breaking of the oil companies' grip as one of the greatest acts of human liberation in history. And I haven't even touched the geopolitics of oil supply control.

Charge at home! And EV's are fantastic and reliable. Talk to anyone that owns one. Just sayin

It's funny how anti-EV folks wear these photographic negative glasses where black is white and vice versa. The biggest reason why EV drivers switch to electric is because it saves money. And yes I know, you've been told that the opposite is true - but that's propaganda at work. Likewise, one of the main reasons why EV drivers love driving EV is that it saves them time. Plug in at night, start the day, or week, with a full charge (or whatever level you have selected). No more trips to the gas station, no more breathing those carcinogenic fumes. The cars are safer (yes, the propaganda has told you otherwise). They handle better, are quieter and need less maintenance. Of course there are trade-offs in life and each type of car has advantages and disadvantages. But one disadvantage of ICE vehicles is that, collectively, they are major contributors to climate change, which is a much more serious problem than you have been led to believe. How quickly we stop burning fossil fuels will determine how much food your great grandkids have to eat for dinner. That's the basic situation we're in.

Circle of life, gasoline is the new dinosaur.