Hyundai/Kia 2.7 Jumped Timing Belt Symptoms and Diagnosis Part 2

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2008 Kia Rondo with a 2.7L VIN 6 VVT engine. In this part 2 of 2 series the #Picoscope reigns supreme as we confirm a jumped timing belt on bank 1. Starting with a relative compression test then viewing the camshaft and crankshaft signals and comparing to a known good. Finally we realign the timing belt and review the engine vacuum and fuel trim data.
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@MR.KNOWITALL1982 2 года назад

Hi Teach! Been following along and would like to add a couple of cents to your amazing job:) I would think the OE scan tool might have helped here with the" unknowns". The Cam Data PIDS likely has a LOOP PID for VVT system and stays in open loop when seeing the CAM fault. Therefore putting useless DATA to scan tool. Snap Is the best after market scan tool but sometime you need OE for the Big picture. I know it's fun to do all this scope stuff because Pico gives you free equipment but the time involved to get waveforms, set up, join FBG, ... is it worth it in the shop when your getting paid 25 to 35 and hour? Is driveability worth the hassle these days? I could have done 2- 4 wheel brake jobs in the time spent researching. just sayin. The code and RC test would have been enough for me to pull covers(way less time)or at least tear down. I think as an instructor you should be showing these young techs the fastest way to get the answer. Way to many guys (Techs) get to deep when starting out then quit the trade and do something easier. .Thanks for the video you out did yourself. oh and congrats you old bastard:) congrats Caleb and good luck man!

@ScannerDanner 2 года назад

You have to look beyond the flat rate system, and also think about an engine that does NOT have an easily accessible timing chain or belt. If I'm not teaching, this is a different video, don't you think? Here is a partial list of what was shown/taught in this video - misfire on cylinder 6 (why a misfire monitor may be wrong) - initially no cam,crank code only misfire codes - negative trims on bank 1 - proving O2 function with a fixed lean signal - actual and desired cam degrees can be misleading - using the MAP sensor to look at engine vacuum - injectors shutdown and why it can happen - an engine can run good with the timing belt off one tooth - using a relative compression test to ID this problem - measuring cam and crank waveforms to check correlation - understand that a shifted keyway can happen (example shown and also discussed with friend) There was more in here too! Don't you think that all of this combined together made for some good education? Remember, that is the primary focus of what I do! I'm a teacher, so I'm going to teach. Also, when a "student" understands these concepts, doesn't that give him more "tools in his diagnostic tool box" to choose from in different situations? This absolutely will make him faster and more accurate. Just have to shift your focus a bit when watching and look at the big picture and again apply this to an engine where the timing covers are not easily removed. Do you have enough knowledge and testing methods available to you to accurately pinpoint the problem WITHOUT disassembly? 😉

@emmanuelcruz6845 2 года назад

@@ScannerDanner well done!! I always love videos and learning you give so much help thanks Paul 😊

@ScannerDanner 2 года назад

Just want to add, that I pinned this comment, not to single out my friend here, I've just heard this same point of view on many occasions and I wanted this opportunity to just try to change some perspectives 😉 Thanks everyone!

@BTCAutomotiveTech 2 года назад

I think you make a great point. As a recovering former flat rate tech, a job like this will not pay nearly as well as a brake job. What I like about Paul’s videos are his clear context. He often purposely shows multiple approaches from a learning perspective. Remember, this job like many of his other case studies have already been to another shop where someone shotgunned a part because they didn’t want or know how to diag correctly. There are never classes on how to make big hours flat-rating repairs and maybe there should be but too often techs get trapped by the flat rate mentality and everything becomes about hours. Something is going to have to change because things like CAN diagnostics on flat rate just doesn’t make sense.

@josecepeda8117 2 года назад

Hi! There folks. My name Jose Cepeda as a certified CUMMINS, MX PACCAR, PETERBILT, KENWORTH trucks. I just want to say great video to show to your students. In my field I spent time were the oem program will not be enough so I would have to spent time with the manufacturer engineers getting answer. Which sometimes become days and I would only get paid a fraction of the time spend. But any way very good video.

@ScannerDanner 2 года назад

Premium members, just wanted to say thank you for the support! Enjoy this early release and sorry for sending you guys the wrong link in the first email. 🙄

@kennedysgarage3281 2 года назад

These jobs that don’t sell can be frustrating 😤 Hours invested but with little or no reward, thanks for sharing Paul 🙏👍

@ScannerDanner 2 года назад

The reward was the video but you are correct

@matthewdale174 2 года назад

Nice finish and thx to all the Danners. It’s a proud moment for your family The dynamics between you guys is perfect not only for promoting the love, respect by and appreciation for the industry but also for how family should be to each other. Thank you for your example.

@ScannerDanner 2 года назад

Thank you Matthew

@stationaryenginesworldwide 2 года назад

Thank you Paul for the update..again congratulations Caleb and Mom …and thank you Danner for your collaboration with your Brother in producing the best educational automotive information on the web and the use of your shop…your the best guys …

@ScannerDanner 2 года назад

Thank you so much!

@ozzstars_cars 2 года назад

Enjoyed the old school type SD video. Congrats on the new family member.

@wyattoneable 2 года назад

I'm getting here late but through the miracle of video, I can come by anytime. I always enjoy hearing the thought process of what you guys are tackling.

@aussiefirestorm 2 года назад

TAT group (the Automotive technician) Australia also has a wave form sharing section. Independents working together is the only way we will survive the corporate onslaught. Had a Lexus RX330 that almost wanted to start but never quite could, was 2 teeth out on the beck head. It had been to at least 2 other shops before I got it. Took a while for the penny to drop for me before scope wave forms were a thing. PS thanks for the teachings Paul.

@tharakanuwan9986 2 года назад

Indeed . Things gonna get more hard when they go with Full Electric.

@calebbouchillon 2 года назад

Danner is the best...... Paul's stuff is the best in the industry, but his brother Danner being a bigger presence these days is great viewing. Keep up the great work Paul

@ScannerDanner 2 года назад

I'm blessed by my brother so much, and to have my son in the mix is priceless. Thanks for being a part of it. Great name btw 😉

@calebbouchillon 2 года назад

Thank you sir. My family business has been prominently in the automotive industry for 45 years, more specifically the Mopar realm. If we can ever help let me know

@josedejesusvelazquez6863 2 года назад

My sincere wishes to the new Dad and his beautiful acquisition that God put all his blessings and spirit in all the families (Scanner). God bless every one. As always the warmest greetings from Tijuana B, C. Mexico. 👍👍👍

@ScannerDanner 2 года назад

Thank you my friend

@Nabeelco 2 года назад

Awe, very cute baby, congrats Paul, Caleb and the rest of the Danner family to the new addition. 😊

@leticiaparra1736 2 года назад

Same thing happened to me on a 2005 Ford escape 3.0,, turned out to be harness/ connector problem, what was happening was that the pcm was receiving weird crank signal, which was A/C signal by the way. Just saying so you guys watch out, and always verify crank a cam signals, even if there aren’t any codes. Thank you for teaching us Paul and James!!!

@rainbowdiamonds2865 2 года назад

The very best Video from you , the Video with 3x danner, cal, Paul und Paul brother. All good for you and your Family. Thanks for your Videos. LG from germany.

@NickFromDetroit 2 года назад

Congratulations Grandpa! And Caleb & wife, and rest of the Danner Clan.

@jeffhesse8415 2 года назад

Congratulations Grandpa! And Dad! And Great Uncle Danner! Great video, shows the some of the B.S. we go through every day just to diagnose some of these vehicles. I'm always arguing the point that we need good, quality information to accurately diagnose cars especially with all the computerized components being in control of everything.

@diymisfit_Mechanic_UDX404 2 года назад

Congrats Granner Danner

@CubasAutomotive 2 года назад

Ooooo. Love it!! 😂😂🤣

@leocaste76 2 года назад

Than You for all the teaching that you give and "FELOCIDADES" for your granddaughter Maestro!

@rickd6421 2 года назад

Great video Paul. Love it when you work with your brother Danner and get involved in a 'deep digging' diagnosis. Congratulations to Caleb and partner, and you becoming a grandfather. Great stuff! Look forward to many more videos :)

@vernhood4568 2 года назад

My first test ANYTIME there is a misfire or timing codes is relative compression. Had my but kicked too many times not keeping it simple and sticking to a Diagnostic Routine. Keep up the great work!

@craiglyles4755 2 года назад

The difference between experience working the front lines and hanging out in the ivory towers. Wish he would cover more than entry level stuff on his channel, this is another easy 30 min. drivability diag dragged out for hours.

@ScannerDanner 2 года назад

@@craiglyles4755 sound like you're ready for you own channel! Time to get to it and leave us "ivory tower" guys to do our thing 🙄

@craiglyles4755 2 года назад

@@ScannerDanner How much does chasing diagnostic rabbit trails pay on RU-vid?

@dariuswashington8660 2 года назад

@@craiglyles4755 Agreed, even an inexperienced drivability tech would have checked compression and verified a jumped belt within half an hour or less, not sure why he runs in circles getting side tracked with irrelevant stuff. Seems like this approach would confuse people trying to learn basics and should be edited out since he claims to be teaching. An entry level drivability tech probably wouldn't be as proficient with a scope as he is, but he always gets sideways on simple diagnostics by overthinking things.

@vernhood4568 2 года назад

@@craiglyles4755 I agree he can get a bit wordy, but he is also an instructor. He is trying to help people learn. It's also a bit different doing this in front of a camera or a class. It's easy to get sidetracked when people are asking questions or in the case of his brother, just giving him a hard time. I applaud him for the work he does because he does it for the love of the industry. I go above and beyond to help out others that don't understand something because our industry has a bad wrap for being "grease monkeys" or "Rip offs". We as professionals need to band together to make our reputation stronger not pick at each others imperfections. I'll get off my soapbox now, Have a great day.

@cullenmiller8170 2 года назад

I was wondering about that and thinking I was reading it wrong, but I figured you guys either celebrated to much or are sleep deprived with the new baby. Congratulations on the new family member and hope everyone is well. Thanks for all your hard work producing this material.

@ScannerDanner 2 года назад

Whats that? The wrong link? 😆 I'm so sorry man

@ashleyg3357 2 года назад

Paul - Cranking compression test - no need for a current clamp, just connect across the battery and invert it (or invert cables). Saves you some time on modern vehicles with difficult to.access cables.

@ScannerDanner 2 года назад

For sure, it is noisier and you need to invert your pattern but yes, that works too

@philh9238 2 года назад

So in short danger was right since 5 minutes of part 1 when he was thinking timing. Good video. That pico looks awesome. Wish all manufacturers had the relative compression test like Ford does as a scan tool option

@W.Khairi 2 года назад

Much appeciation for the relentless teaching effort, and one very interesting case study, Thank u very much SD.

@Redddie1337 2 года назад

I love this early access type setup. Even better that it’s on RU-vid cause I can cast it to my tv. Thanks for all that you do! Learned quite a lot over the last couple years. Great things to bring into my classroom now.

@ScannerDanner 2 года назад

If you have a browser feature on your smart TV, you can cast premium videos too. Let me know if you have any questions on that. Thank you so much!

@Redddie1337 2 года назад

@@ScannerDanner I have resisted smart tv's because screw paying for ads to be shown to me on my own device, but I do have an Xbox connected, and I just got a keyboard for it, so I could use Edge to watch them on there, it just wasn't a good experience with just the controller.

@ErikTheVikingMechanic 2 года назад

Granner Danner. Congratulations to your son on becoming a father and you on becoming a grandad. All the best to all

@last1king 2 года назад

I Love your guys, and I love watching your magic. I can't thank you enough for sharing this. Congratulations grandpa 🥰

@frankoattes 2 года назад

Another great video grandad! And congratulations to you and your family on the new addition, I wish you all good heath and happiness. Your never too old too learn! I really enjoy how you kick about so many different ideas on what may cause the issue, then use the scan data to read actual parameters then question them. I know you always get a gut feeling about how the vehicle is running and sometimes the data makes you question yourself. I do understand the flat rate guys going on about the time and money side of it but, sometimes it’s not about the money, it’s about solving the issue and building the reputation of being a good diagnostic tech who knows his stuff. Once you have that reputation, people will pay for your time and knowledge, rather than throw $1000’s of dollars changing guessed parts. My boss gets pissed at me often because I’m always diving too deep and the customers not willing to pay, but if your just going to keep leaving jobs unfinished, how are you ever going to learn for next time! I’ve spent many an unpaid hour after work researching jobs that I’m stuck with just so that I can get to the end result without costing the company unpaid time, and to allow me to digest the information without someone breathing down my neck about how long it’s going to take! Too many shops today just want the quick and easy jobs, hey, we all want an easy life right? I just think we are also totally under rated and underpaid for the knowledge we have, the training we do, and the continuing outlay for tools when the modern cars keep evolving. You get guys packing boxes now earning more money than us and that’s totally wrong in my opinion. Things need to change so that us guys that enjoy fixing cars and have a love for it stay at it. Thank you again Paul for a great lesson, and end result.

@prmayner 2 года назад

Without seeing the end of this video first, I just watched a video and I can't think of the car but it was one of Ivan's jobs and the cam gear is pressed onto the cam and it shifts causing these symptoms, man YT and the information age is awesome for fixing some of these crazy ass dam designs. Preciate it Paul awesome job.

@tracydiller9378 2 года назад

First of all thank once again for another In depth diagnostic video you can never have enough case studies.Second i agree each vehicle is going to be some what different on how you approach your trouble shooting because of difficulty some cars have to offer.Some of these parts on cars and trucks are almost impossible to get to unless to take the dam car or truck apart.Paul between you and your automotive community you guys are doing a great job breaking down into pieces the diagnostics of trouble shooting Today CARS and trucks.Keep up the great work and once again Congratulation on that new grand baby. Stay safe everyone and have a great week.

@JLsAutoSolution 2 года назад

Have customer contact kia, as there was a recall to add anticorrosion to the subframe to stop it from rusting. If the recall was done improperly(not cleaning all the rust off before spraying) that will happen. Since it is a recall to correct a safety issue they will probably pay for the part.

@weldingjunkie 2 года назад

Awesome video Paul, Sean is the man he’s very active. You can convert ATS wave forms and visa versa as well to pull up on Pico it’s awesome. Another excellent video. Happy Thanksgiving my friend 👏🏼…Jay

@CubasAutomotive 2 года назад

I had no idea about that!! That's nifty!! 😍

@weldingjunkie 2 года назад

@@CubasAutomotive ya it’s awesome. Save as a .csv & you can use either or.

@routeoneauto 2 года назад

I have always told customers that the Scan Tool / (Part Store) code reader is no more than a compass. To merely get us pointed in the right direction to start our testing. The testing is what you are charged for, like the part peddlers I’ll read codes for free.

@loukoponosh1372 2 года назад

Congratulations Caleb and grandpa..Very interesting video enjoyed the process and thoughts thru the diag

@isalmankhan1 2 года назад

Superb👍 Very interesting case study, & fix without requiring any parts👍 Special Thanks to James Danner for fixing it😉 Congratulations Caleb on your little Princess😍 Stay Safe & Blessed Guy's❤

@poorboyman5565 2 года назад

Congrats on the new member of the family.Great vid.

@mike-yp1uk 2 года назад

I like these videos as we learn different variable and the different effects. Scope work is a must if you are looking for an accurate way to save time. awesome material as usual.

@nelsonnarciso1791 2 года назад

Excellent video. Great diagnostic tips. Well done. Congratulations Grand Pa and to everyone.

@jimr549 2 года назад

Love watching you guys together, nice video. Congrats on being a granddanner!

@josephwash109 2 года назад

I suspect the reason why the timing variation was close to zero on the scan tool is because the ECM always assumes that the mechanical timing is set properly as it's baseline. When the ECM commands the phasers, it only looks for a variation at that time to confirm that the command was executed properly. Since the water pump is timing belt driven, maybe it's possible that the cooling system is filled with a weak mixture that lightly froze and partially seized the water pump. When the engine was started, the timing belt jumped on bank 1.

@djosbun 2 года назад

The best part of this video was adding the replay of your brother eating at the end of the video. I was laughing hysterically!

@ScannerDanner 2 года назад

Caleb's touch 🤣

@paulfiebke3909 2 года назад

Congratulations hope all is well and God bless you all

@johnmarkferding8943 2 года назад

This video part 1 and part 2 were Awesome. Thank you guys for the time you spend to educate all that are interested. Also Congrats to Caleb and mom. Baby looks good and healthy. Dont get any idea's stealing some of her hair for your head there pops. hahaha

@arvydaskraftas6358 2 года назад

Hey Granner Danner!! Thanks for the video again. Congrats on baby girl. Now about scanner info on cam desired and accutal. Exhaust cam on bank 1 was always of, but it is not monitored. Intake cam was always coreted by vvt solenoid. So it showed 0 degrees. But PCM knew, that it was off. What guy can do there is to unplug vvt control solenoid to see an actual cam position.

@steveburgandy2680 2 года назад

Congrats, cameraman Caleb!

@evanedison9085 Год назад

Good video!!! Great information

@jasonb5898 2 года назад

I have made this mistake myself while doing a timing belt on one of these.I had the same exact symptoms and found exactly as you did. Scan data showed normal for actual and desired. Since the problem occurred after I did the belt I knew I had blown the job. I did not spin it over by hand as usual because ,hey I always get them on the money. Not that time. I was able to get her fixed quickly at least. Ona side not whatch out for the butterfly screws on the intake runner on these. I found 6 of them laying in the bottom of the plenum. Shake it when you pull it! Congrats to you and your son.

@Discretesignals 2 года назад

Congratulations on the new grand baby Paul!!

@steelblackface 2 года назад

Congratulations guys i remembered what it was like when my son born. I was ecstatic.

@jdtractorman7445 2 года назад

At around the 41:37 mark, that might be a Saturn L-series your brother is referring to. If it's the 3.0 V6 they had four camshafts and two eccentric pulleys that made it extra fun resetting timing, LOL😎. Some time late in 2001 or 2002 they went to having one eccentric pulley and the other was non eccentric. Nice you guys figured it out even though the customer is junking it. It's probably best for them though, subframes are not cheap even if you got one from a salvage yard off of a southern vehicle.

@craiglyles4755 2 года назад

I don’t miss those POS 4 cams, gotta hold mouth just right…

@HouseCallAutoRepair 2 года назад

Thanks Danners! Love seeing stuff I haven't seen before, and learning new stuff from my recliner!

@prmayner 2 года назад

"At least you'll get paid for this" Danner cracks me up, Amen Brother give em hell Danner!!! Ha! Oh congrats on the new edition Paul and family.

@joshuapruden6497 2 года назад

Congrats Caleb! Another excellent series!!! Thank you again!

@f.crepairs2461 2 года назад

Awesome information! Thank you!🔥🔥

@JimmyMakingitwork 2 года назад

1 cam is out of time…. Another informative video. I will get one of the newer pico scopes some day, love the new ones with the updated leads making our jobs easier.

@paulfiebke3909 2 года назад

Love you all keep up the good work and miss your show and classes

@alanhill8680 2 года назад

CONGRATULATIONS GRANDPA AND FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

@andrewturchan6065 2 года назад

Dusty is alive !!!! Thanx guys ...

@robertmedina6875 2 года назад

Thank you Paul, & Danner!!

@rustystubbs242 2 года назад

Great videos. Be nice to have seen it taken apart to show how much that timing chaining chain jumped

@ScannerDanner 2 года назад

I did! I show it being one tooth off on the bank 1 head

@Jhanfranco10 2 года назад

Saludos desde Perú 🇵🇪👍

@lolipopdeck3694 2 года назад

Pual Congratulations for you and caleb for little E 👼 Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge A fan from libya

@Portuguese-linguica 2 года назад

Congrats Caleb . I wish the best for you and your family.

@Discretesignals 2 года назад

The only person that could give you the correct answer for that strategy would be the engineer. My guess would be that when the engine is warmed up the PCM checks for cam correlation (17th tooth after the CKPS sync). If it is off, the PCM will kill two injectors on that bank to try and protect the catalyst?

@craiglyles4755 2 года назад

That’s exactly what’s happening, a crude attempt to mitigate catalyst damage from fuel washout. It’s an industry standard across the board on these older vehicles.

@emmanuelcruz6845 2 года назад

Grannerdanner!! Lol love it!

@Bikerman42 2 года назад

I have had some that the water pump pully or idlers have a slight bit of play and will cause timing to jump under heavy load. Usually someone hot rodding it.

@canadatransistor 2 года назад

congrats granner danner and caleb.

@weshawkins7165 2 года назад

Excellent x 100 on this video. Thanks Danner! Love these who done it videos. Ya almost have to sell to the customer the possibility of the cam gears being off also after the belt is replaced.

@nickzimmerman4987 2 года назад

great video as usual paul ....really like the videos of you and danner working together and hope mom is doing well my friend

@ScannerDanner 2 года назад

Thanks Nick! Hope your are too my old friend

@Bwelsh1981 2 года назад

Awesome brother. Remind me to Tell you one day about the Mazda 4cyI I had that did some Strange things with the Timing being off.

@wagoosh78 2 года назад

congrads on your first grandchild and once agian you and your brother done a excellant job

@patrickleonard5034 2 года назад

I don’t know if anyone mentioned this in the comments yet… but i Believe there is a recall or TSB on those subframe’s

@josephs9268 2 года назад

Another great video. Also a part of that waveform group on Facebook, a vault of gold to say the least.

@colejensen5812 2 года назад

Danner is a good sport with your filming. "Hey Danner come here for second".

@carlm2590 2 года назад

The Scanners Danner

@clyntk 2 года назад

Hey Paul, Great video and good find to the issue. I always scope the crank and cams, then compare to good known. CVVT data for Kia/Hyundai actual and desired is only for the CVVT system, the ECU assumes the mechical timing is correct. Using the scope with good known waveforms is a lot quicker than dismantle and inspect. Also in the video the timing belt looks newish however could just be the camera/video. Thanks for the video.

@xl447 2 года назад

Good case study boys, so helpful with known good data. 👍

@woefman9467 2 года назад

Dont forget your map sensor reading clued you in a tad EDIT sorry posted when thought video over, thanks

@michaelpatosa 2 года назад

Hey SD, this is another great valuable lesson for me thanks for sharing! Also was this more than an hour of diagnostic time?

@Pablo_Automotive 2 года назад

Thanks a lot for share this and show this kind of diagnostic, you are the best.

@rickcoleman8903 2 года назад

Eggsellent congrats on the grand baby each one makes me feel so much older but in a good way.

@Paul1958R 2 года назад

Paul, Congrats to Caleb and Mrs Caleb - again! Danner's the man! (You are very lucky to have a great brother like that) Thank you again for this video - very educational. Does the customer at least pay for the diag time? Paul (in MA)

@ScannerDanner 2 года назад

I am blessed to get to work next to my brother and my son. Yes, the customer paid for diag time, so Danner made some money

@fire7765 2 года назад

Great job guys, Congratulations Grandpa!

@mark98070 2 года назад

Congrats Gradnpap. Lol. Also congrats to Caleb and his wife

@areefullakhan2005 2 года назад

thanks sir very very deep information

@shauno3697 2 года назад

Well that does it. I'm going to get a hoagie. Congratulations Caleb & Mrs Caleb, GranPap, and Unkl Danner on the new addition to the family. I fully expect her first words to be scan tool...or fuel trims...or pulse width. You get the idea.

@ScannerDanner 2 года назад

🤣🤣

@lovetolearn5253 2 года назад

Good stuff

@nsaglian 2 года назад

Great video! Love the family stuff!

@BG-gg9pl 2 года назад

Paul / Danner **I can help! **Don’t know if someone already posted this and don’t have much time but the ***factory scan tool doesn’t offer that cam/crank deviation pid! ** (for those years). I worked on one and it had miss on cylinder 6, it had weak spark from coil and swapping changed nothing it finally threw a cam code, scoped it and wave forms were off. It was junk truck like yours but another tech had hacked it at our shop (dealership) so I got to fix it.

@손정민-v8k 2 года назад

Awesome outstanding job thanks

@vinces8974 2 года назад

Great video, congratulations on your granddaughter Paul

@parochial2356 2 года назад

Paul, repeat after me: "processed data."

@ganeshnarayan5505 2 года назад

Great video guys man learned lot from you guys thanks for sharing. hey Paul congratulation for being a Grandpa.

@Portuguese-linguica 2 года назад

Did you just fart ... No that was bill 😂. That was gold.

@davidshaw5644 2 года назад

So you can usually get engine cradles from like Georgia area that are almost new condition for very reasonable prices

@throttlebottle5906 2 года назад

I say worn stretched belt and bad tensioner/idler, possibly water pump(if driven off it/middle of engine) I don't recall. it could be jumped a few teeth at the trailing sprocket from flailing loose or idler/pump bad allowing belt length change between banks, which would throw the rear bank off for sure. I command thy customer to have you repair it and replace subframe also. 🙃

@normangallant9879 2 года назад

Wow what an interesting video.

@TraceSidden14 Год назад

I got one doing the same thing but you can drive it sometimes all day and not misfire and has plenty of power till it starts doin it

@craiglyles4755 2 года назад

Called compression check 5 minutes in on the first video…check the basics first and save a lifetime. Strategy based diagnostics folks, work efficiently.

@ScannerDanner 2 года назад

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@joebriano6090 2 года назад

So relative compression test can be used to find jump timming belt?

@ScannerDanner 2 года назад

Yes sir, but not always. Depends on where the belt jumped and how much

@HowToSaveMoneyOnCarRepairs 2 года назад

Fuel Pressure and injectors or Fuel Trim by way of 02 Oxygen Sensors is not the Problem. On these kia Cars, it is the Fuel regulators that go Faulty, It is a known Fault. The Flat Spots are infrequent and the Vehicles can still be considered Driveable..! II hope this helps...?