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Robert reports on a recent road trip in the Hyundai Kona. 933 miles, 3 rapid charge stops.

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@johntisbury
@johntisbury 5 лет назад
Good update, thank you. I pick my 64kWh Kona on Monday 1st July which was ordered on 8th Dec 2018. 2 months ahead of scheduled delivery date!
@GlennBroadway
@GlennBroadway 5 лет назад
This is like the good old days of Fully Charged when it was just Robert and a camera in his Prius!
@namespacetoosmall
@namespacetoosmall 5 лет назад
My Kona EV arrives this week. I can’t wait. :)
@leesmart1971
@leesmart1971 5 лет назад
Had mine for 3 weeks. Done 2400 miles already. Averaging 4.3 m/kWh over that distance. Overnight charge at home at 5p/kWh for 4 hours on Octopus. Equates to 1.2p/mile. Instavolt, Genie Point and Polar etc all cost 30 to 35p/kWh when away from home and need a top-up. Still way cheaper to run than my old diesel (59mpg average ==> 10p/mile).
@Kiltoonie
@Kiltoonie 5 лет назад
@@leesmart1971 I've done 1200 or so. Mostly charging on solar right now.
@robinyellow
@robinyellow 5 лет назад
I've done 7000 on mine. I'm also averaging 4.3m/kwh.
@bossman8303
@bossman8303 5 лет назад
There seem to be a lot of people who prefer a 60 mpg diesel instead of a clean electric car. I just sold my Mercedes 300SD that was converted to run on veggie oil which I got for free from my business. I would only buy 1 tank of diesel per year. Cheap as cheap can be but the enjoyment of driving my Kona is out of this world. When I charge at home it is just penny's per mile. The diesel noise is gone and the acceleration is fantastic. I think I could street race a Camaro and win. I bought the car for environmental reasons but I was pleasantly surprised with the performance. There is nothing I do not love about driving electric. It is clean, quiet, hardly any maintenance cost and the money you spent on electricity stays in your country. Cheers
@rodden1953
@rodden1953 5 лет назад
Totally agree, i have a Kona and its the best car i have ever driven , ive driven hundreds of cars when i used to deliver them ,But this Kona is a dream to drive and so far all the electric has been free from my roof with a Zappi charger .
@SeanLeach
@SeanLeach 5 лет назад
Really enjoy this short update style video. Great way to fill the gap between the full episodes. Keep up the good work!
@matthewhoughton7112
@matthewhoughton7112 5 лет назад
Can't believe you were in my hometown Folkestone! I always enjoy the videos!!
@macronencer
@macronencer 5 лет назад
I went from an i3 REx to a Kona (picked it up in May). They were always supposed to have 80kW charge rate, by the way - though I've not been able to use that yet. Nice to see you at least got 72. Compared with the BMW I think the only negative thing I have to say is that the traction control is a lot less sure-footed. In the i3 I could slam my foot down on a wet road and it went in a straight line. The Kona is a lot more... er... skittish :) Faster than the i3 though, and a lot of fun in sport mode. Fun when you want it, comfort when you want it. A perfect car!
@simonyapp
@simonyapp 5 лет назад
This format is perfect! Thanks for the update 👍 Robert, when u trade it in. I will buy it. I mean that.
@I-MO
@I-MO 5 лет назад
Like these videos, thanks for making them! Glad Maidstone treated you well with the charging, you helped me find out about the Ionity Charger on my doorstep, thanks :)
@BrotherBloat
@BrotherBloat 5 лет назад
great result for sure! I needed a large combustion engine car last year for a Euro trip (over 6k miles), which was the reason to buy a 610-litre-boot ,150bhp, 2.0 diesel (yuck!) Octavia (119g CO2/km). During the trip, I averaged well over 55mpg, driving normally, with driver + 1 passenger and luggage. I just did a round trip this weekend from London to Norfolk and back, averaging 58.2mpg (UK gallon). Both results backed by scrupulous usage of Drivvo app to track fuel consumption over time. I am waiting for more and more cars like the brilliant Kona to hit the market, so my next ride can be an EV. Certainly, with the amazing range you folks achieved, I'm optimistic!
@victorseal9047
@victorseal9047 5 лет назад
Great report ! Also, the head up display does lower itself after a period of inactivity.
@miguelferrazcosta
@miguelferrazcosta 5 лет назад
Here in Portugal our expensive Fast Chargers do not allways work, and even on our main motorway (A1). We've got a long way to go...
@benpaynter
@benpaynter 5 лет назад
Ionity have just installed 4 of those rapid chargers at Milton Keynes Coach Station which is about 300 meters from J14 on the M1. At the same location Chargemaster have recently installed 8 x 50kw rapid chargers in addition to the one which has been there for years. So that's 4x350kw and 9x50kw all in the same place which (if my maths is right) would be a draw of around 1.8MW if they all ran at peak output at once!!!!!!
@GregHassler
@GregHassler 5 лет назад
4.4 mi/kWh is 148 MPGe equivalent, above the rating of the vehicle, it's a pretty good number.
@bernardmills4575
@bernardmills4575 5 лет назад
I did a very similar trip in the Zoe at approx similar costs. Obviously had to stop more often and charging would have been longer but its easy to do if your not in a rush
@davidkniveton7792
@davidkniveton7792 5 лет назад
Just done a quick and rough calculation and a really economical diesel car of the same size as the Kona would do at best 300 miles for the same cost, and chuck out a LOT more polution.
@mdplatts8336
@mdplatts8336 5 лет назад
Bjorn nyland did a hypermiling run with a kona once and got 800km IIRC
@johnwhite5555
@johnwhite5555 5 лет назад
Nice informative video ( even including obviously age induced lapses in the memory cells {says even more ancient memory challenged geezer.}). One minor suggestion.....surely somewhere between Glorcestestestersheer and Maidstone there was either a Lidl wiff free rapid charge or Holiday Inn wiff free Ultracharge? Oh and many thanks young Meister Llewellyn for your charming and erudite presentations.......quite restores my faith in mankind's ability to overcome even the most annoying of his traits, a total inability to remember what happened yesterday . ;) :P
@ridingwolf42
@ridingwolf42 5 лет назад
Don't assume charging at a hotel will be free though. In the UK it's quite often polar and the hotel we were in Eindhoven last week had chargers which were also pay to use (if they hadn't been out of service). It's good to see the Ionity chargers in Maidstone work again, those being offline when traveling to FCL was not fun.
@GreatOldOne
@GreatOldOne 5 лет назад
Can’t wait for mine... due for delivery in February next year. I ordered in February this year! 🤣
@DarrenWhittington
@DarrenWhittington 5 лет назад
Pity you can't buy one at present in the UK, they do though have plenty of offers on their ICE ones at 0%, I can see what they're doing...
@TRYtoHELPyou
@TRYtoHELPyou 5 лет назад
Good video!
@PascalCFortin
@PascalCFortin 5 лет назад
do you know the comparison between the model 3 and the hyundai klw per hour
@CraigTyers
@CraigTyers 5 лет назад
Hay Robert, how about just for example, letting us know how many mpg an ice would have to do to match the kona? See if you could tell me that a BMW 3 series would have to make 150 mpg...?
@SaffyMirza
@SaffyMirza 5 лет назад
Thank you, loved the cost analysis, so you could have halved the cost of charging? I'm running with that! "10% the cost of an ICE equivalent " Nice one👍
@bradgraham9207
@bradgraham9207 5 лет назад
We need fastned in the states!! reliable public chargers are important.
@chrisgilbert2486
@chrisgilbert2486 5 лет назад
By the way, charging rate tops out at about 77KW for 64KW version - here's the FastNed chart for the Kona: support.fastned.nl/hc/en-gb/articles/360001029367-Charging-with-a-Hyundai-KONA?WebEN-Car&Klant-support&Hyper1 - These Fastned charts are really helpful for understanding why different cars charge at different rates!
@simoncanfer5030
@simoncanfer5030 5 лет назад
Those saying the charging price is high - most EV drivers don't need to charge at public chargers very often. Free or cheap fast charging (7kW) is available; very cheap on off-peak rates, making more like an average 2p/mile a reality.
@_TrueDesire_
@_TrueDesire_ 5 лет назад
well i can't charge at home so i rely on the public chargers...
@rodden1953
@rodden1953 5 лет назад
So far its been free for me as i have a Zappi charger with power from the sun
@logicalChimp
@logicalChimp 5 лет назад
@@_TrueDesire_ Yup - but you have the choice (most of the time, or so I presume) to use a 'free' (or at least, cheap) charger whilst you do your shopping / go to a restaurant, etc... Nice thing about charging an EV (compared to refueling an ICE car) is that you don't have to stand there until it's finished... instead, you hook it up and go do something else.
@_TrueDesire_
@_TrueDesire_ 5 лет назад
@@logicalChimp only free chargers i know of is at Lidl :/ and i hate to buy my food there it taste so chemical. the greens are good though. What i spend (in time) for two days of charging is what i spend for like 3 months of refueling my other car.
@chrisgilbert2486
@chrisgilbert2486 5 лет назад
We get 4.1 Mi/KWh average on our Kona. I guess we need to practice a bit more since it's the first EV we've had! We got much worse when we were on a trip recently up to Scotland, and were way down to 3.3 on one leg. But it was very hilly and raining I suppose. Did you run it in Eco mode, and did you use cruise control, or auto regen settings? I'm trying to figure out the best way to drive it on long journeys so we can find better places to stop.
@Kiltoonie
@Kiltoonie 5 лет назад
4.1 is fine: a lot better than the Leaf at 3.5
@chrisgilbert2486
@chrisgilbert2486 5 лет назад
@@Kiltoonie I don't really have anything to compare it against. Thats over 4000+ miles, and most of journeys are short ones at low speeds. We aren't doing as well on the range for long journeys at motorway speeds (though cross country A roads seem really good). I was disappointed with battery drain on our Scottish trip, but seems to have been better since, suggesting it was all those hills and windy rainy weather. After we did that trip, the range meter was saying 230 miles for a full charge. Now it's finally got back up to our typical 260. Not sure how over 300 is even possible with normal driving!
@Kiltoonie
@Kiltoonie 5 лет назад
@@chrisgilbert2486 Its fine: don't beat yourself up over a few stats: drive it like you stole it.
@davidarf
@davidarf 5 лет назад
How efficient the Kona can be is very dependent on temperatures, road gradients and driving styles. Since September I have averaged 4.8 miles per KWH and in the current very warm weather I can easily average over 5 miles/KWH. I would readily admit that on my last two long runs I set cruise to 60mph on the main roads in order to ensure completing the journeys without using public chargers, but was able to complete 270miles and added only about 30 minutes to the journey time because you cannot always rely on being able to do 70mph due to road works restrictions. I do like the autoregen because I prefer to use the cruise control and so I have the car in eco mode with regen level 3. At this setting the Kona is faster off the line than most ICE cars and is plenty fast enough for urban driving.
@chargingabout
@chargingabout 5 лет назад
While I agree 30 mpg is low for a Kona sized car (my captur did 55mpg in similar circumstances). It's clear the savings are still big. Enough so I can afford a cheap overnight hotel rather than car camping on the road trip planned for the summer
@dennisbjergmadsen5163
@dennisbjergmadsen5163 5 лет назад
Kona can charge with 100 kw but for some reason IT only takes 72-75 kw.
@robadr13
@robadr13 5 лет назад
It would have been helpful to have given the charging times at each location - something of significant interest when considering long distance road trips in EV's.
@pushcreativity
@pushcreativity 5 лет назад
Definitely, that car I want, but for the long waiting list.
@Kiltoonie
@Kiltoonie 5 лет назад
I know it sucks. I was one of the lucky ones.
@super-sim1665
@super-sim1665 5 лет назад
Not available to order in the UK since waiting lists have reached more than 12 months. Have to make do with a leaf.
@HansMilling
@HansMilling 5 лет назад
Only Tesla takes EV's serious with quick delivery times. The rest of the auto makers, do not care about EV's and therefor don't produce that many.
@ruedigerpreiss9307
@ruedigerpreiss9307 5 лет назад
​@@HansMilling really? I pre-ordered a Model 3 in April 2017 - that year nobody had any idea about the Kona Electric. In December 2018 I was fed up with waiting for the Model 3 so I ordered a Kona Electric, which arrived mid February 2019 and I picked it up on 4th March. For the Model 3 I'd have had to wait another 4 months. I wouldn't call that quick...
@HansMilling
@HansMilling 5 лет назад
@@ruedigerpreiss9307 Model 3 wasn't available until March in Europe. The waiting time for Kia Niro and Hyundai Kona is more than a year now. The VW ID is more than two years. Nissan Leaf is 9 months.
@ruedigerpreiss9307
@ruedigerpreiss9307 5 лет назад
@@HansMilling you mention VW ID yet it isn't even revealed lol. Fact is I pre-ordered the Model 3 and haven't seen it within 2 years (although it was promised MUCH earlier), whilst the Kona E from pre-order until delivery took 3.5 months in my case.
@SWR112
@SWR112 5 лет назад
Ruediger Preiss Although you can pre order that’s not a order in processing. Tesla have delivered exactly when they said they would mid 2019 for right hand drive models. Now you can place and order and expect it to be processed in the uk delivery for standard Model 3 September. Asking about Kona they suggest and it’s like blood out stone that if I order just now it will be May next year at the earliest more like third quarter 🤷🏼‍♂️ To wait over a year in a Car market that changes so fast is a problem. The Kona is a fantastic Car, solid and range beyond 300 miles real world. Tesla even being slow to get the RHD models landing in the U.K. are still going to get ahead of everyone. BMW are years behind, VW not even in the game yet and Hyundai etc not able to ramp up on demand. Tesla has always had the trump Card of battery manufacturing on a epic scale. With new development in dry battery tech or even the elusive solid state promised by Dyson etc I’d be waiting till the next leap forward. Why buy a car with 300 plus range when a battery that lasts twice as long Battery life and lighter and now the car does 450-500 miles range is around the corner two to three years. Personally the last fossil I’ll ever buy that was factory ordered is sitting on the drive and will be run till I go EV. Car sales are going to dip with people less concerned about swapping every 2-3 years.
@michealoflaherty1265
@michealoflaherty1265 5 лет назад
From what I have seen the boot on the Kona is disappointingly small. It seems it was adequate for a camera crew. Can anyone educate me on this? 😀
@ruedigerpreiss9307
@ruedigerpreiss9307 5 лет назад
Depends what you compare it with - the boot of a Nissan Juke is considerably smaller. I've got the Kona Electric since March and find the boot size for a family of 4 manageable. My wife has a Prius with a larger boot and we use that if we need to transport bigger stuff. I also was concerned about lack of boot space before I picked it up, but actually I find it bigger than I thought it would be
@pompeyexileuk205
@pompeyexileuk205 5 лет назад
Being on quite limited income I've got to wait at least about another three years before I can even consider buying one of these or any electric car, as it will have to be second/third hand. Also, living up north and having family over 200 plus miles away and not restricting my driving to just poodling around town it's no good going for an old Nissa Leaf either, as the infrastructure for charging still isn't good enough to ease range anxiety. oh well, I'll just keep doing the lottery I guess.
@NewAgeDIY
@NewAgeDIY 5 лет назад
If only you provided some kind of translation in the description area. I have no idea what you said also you do realize people are viewing this in North America and Canada. I sure would like to get an idea how how much it cost for the full trip in Canadian dollars. We don’t speak your language (dialect) thanks from Vancouver BC Canada 😀
@hughmarcus1
@hughmarcus1 5 лет назад
Dale Marcell This is the age of the internet. Stick an App on your phone that converts currency. For your info it’s about $61.50 CAN.
@MrBenHaynes
@MrBenHaynes 5 лет назад
I understood him quite well from Australia, but then as I am told, we are all from British convict stock anyway........ (and land grabbers as well)
@paulaschofield
@paulaschofield 5 лет назад
You compared the cost of an EV over a petrol car for the same trip, and I recently did the same thing for a trip I did which showed that our EV was much cheaper. Then I added a cost that is being introduced here in New Zealand in 2021, Road User Charge. RUC is a charge that is currently only for Diesel vehicles, because the fuel at the pump doens't include tax. When RUC is introduced, it will mean that EVs will be more expensive to run than the equivalent sized vehicle, where public fast chargers are used. Doing a long road trip in a petrol Corolla for example will be cheaper than a Leaf. Is there anything being intruduced in the UK so the government can get back the money they will be loosing through fuel tax?
@jaroessa294
@jaroessa294 5 лет назад
And this is something that EV fanboys fail to acknowledge in ANY of their videos, that any government or charging station company is going to price the electricity in such a way that they will still get their 'pound of flesh', even if you park your ICE vehicle and try to go EV.
@Dorsetwatersofteners
@Dorsetwatersofteners 5 лет назад
It is obvious to all including ‘fan boys ‘ that there will be some increase in charge to meet the tax needs, But still nicer to drive, more fun and cleaner. What is not to like. I know it doesn’t, make a noise like a real engine? But I am sure people will cope eventually and the stupid gene will hopefully die out. More noise more power? No more noise less power.
@ruedigerpreiss9307
@ruedigerpreiss9307 5 лет назад
@@jaroessa294 ALL EV owners know that once EV becomes the norm, the government will find a way to charge (probably for mileage through insurance). But by then you won't be able to buy an ICE car (which, in addition to fuel price, will also be charged / mileage and therefore unlikely will EVER be cheaper than EVs)
@ruedigerpreiss9307
@ruedigerpreiss9307 5 лет назад
Sounds like people in NZ need to vote for a political party that supports green energy ... surely it's in the very interest of New Zealanders to become independent of oil, which you have to import, whilst you have a lot of free sun, wind, hydro and tidal - even geothermal power in your country?
@MrTrisward
@MrTrisward 5 лет назад
From what I've read the Kona Electric has a max 100kW DC charge rate
@Kiltoonie
@Kiltoonie 5 лет назад
Realistically, probably around 75 on a super-rapid, but 40-45 kWh is more normnal on most rapids.
@ruedigerpreiss9307
@ruedigerpreiss9307 5 лет назад
77kw was the most someone got in the UK Kona Electric owner group (on a 150kw charger)
@AdrianMcDaid
@AdrianMcDaid 5 лет назад
Like these short vids
@Kiltoonie
@Kiltoonie 5 лет назад
Hilarious: the real cost of this kind of quick professional film trip is £(a few thousand) in time, ferry, hotels, coffee, meals and booze bills: and yet we find ourselves discussing pennies on power supply. Robert: I own a Kona and a Leaf, and I don't budget for energy costs anymore, because I don't sweat the small stuff: I probably spend more on organic milk per annum, or on malt whisky, than I do on fuelling my cars, especially since they are mostly drving on sunshine off my roof.
@Ouz985
@Ouz985 4 года назад
Love the "polite wtf" look @5:18 LOL
@mowcius
@mowcius 5 лет назад
I approve of all the figures, but I'm not sure of your assessment of "they really don't do more than that" regarding mpg of cars. 30mpg is what I get in my mid size van without careful driving. I can get 45mpg if I pay attention. A lot of petrol cars will easily do over 50mpg these days, and that's not even considering hybrids. Still, even saving £20 on that journey would start to make people think, and you saved a lot more than that. I think it's realistic to be saying you likely paid less than half of what you could have done for any petrol car.
@thinfourth
@thinfourth 5 лет назад
I am cursed with a Skoda Superb diesel company car and it does 47mpg with ease And i'm not paying for fuel so i don't drive carefully Still sounds like two skeletons fucking in a tin bath however when its idling
@benjaminford9932
@benjaminford9932 5 лет назад
It's not just about saving money. For me it is the fact that there are no tail pipe emissions and they will get cleaner the more electricity is generated by renewable sources. The other good thing is they are just much more pleasant to drive and really work well. Even my LEAF is able to make a very clean getaway and leave most other vehicles standing at lights and roundabouts without any fuss.
@bordersw1239
@bordersw1239 5 лет назад
I’m pro ev but seriously 30mpg ? My old LR Discovery did 28mpg, my daughter’s Seat Ibiza does 47mpg. My Citroen GP did 51mpg with 5 people, a dog and a roofbox on a 610 mile trip back from France at motorway speeds. Yes, it cost more in fuel, but the car cost £25k less than a Kona !
@jamesfagan69
@jamesfagan69 5 лет назад
Yeah come on why is he using 30mpg as an example. Use an bran new efficient hybrid with start stop as an example. What an easy way to make it look cheap :/
@logicalChimp
@logicalChimp 5 лет назад
@@jamesfagan69 Bear in mind he was quoting prices for CUV / mini-SUV vehicles, not more efficient cars, and whilst some CUVs or small SUVs might manage more than 30MPG if driven carefully, it probably wouldn't be significantly more. At the same time, if it would have cost 171 quid at 30MPG, then it would still have cost ~85 quid at 60MPG - or around 2.5x more... So yes, there may have been some selective efficiency picking for the comparison - but not massively, and it doesn't change the overall result that using the 'most expensive electricity possible' it was still significantly cheaper than regular petrol...
@jamesfagan69
@jamesfagan69 5 лет назад
@@logicalChimp No i totally disagree. If we are comparing a price and mpg on a journey like this (which was the point to this video) we have to be using the most fuel efficient car available. Otherwise you might as well compare a speed boat to a sailing boat. Hyundi it seams do not sell a hybrid mini-SUV at present, but they do sell a large saloon IONIQ Hybrid that they have reported 78.5 mpg this car is about £6000 cheaper as well i might add. Kia (there sister company) do make a small suv hybrid Kia Niro with 58.9 mpg. Its a poor argument to make that 30 mpg is a fare and logical comparison. If you want to talk about a bran new electric car then lets compare it to the latest ultra efficient hybrid. That would have been real reporting.
@MyKharli
@MyKharli 5 лет назад
I thought the point was we were in a climate emergency so every gram of carbon emitted now was an expensive present for the near future to deal with and indeed many now.
@jamesfagan69
@jamesfagan69 5 лет назад
@@MyKharli If that the point then don't drive anywhere. Go buy a plot of land and become self sufficient. This is a video about a very selfish and inefficient way of transport the automobile. Think you've clicked on the wrong video
@TassieEV
@TassieEV 5 лет назад
Like the idea of the Kona but I just don't fit it or my family. The Ioniq on the other hand most definitely so bought one.
@chrisgilbert2486
@chrisgilbert2486 5 лет назад
The boot leaves a lot to be desired, but it turns out if you remove the loading floor and the polysteryene bits, they wasted a ton of space there. So we are doing OK for a week away with 2 kids. Not to say I wouldn't prefer more boot space :). They also should have put a frunk/froot in, there's space for it.
@TassieEV
@TassieEV 5 лет назад
@@chrisgilbert2486 Not so much that space more that in my normal driving position my head hits the roof and my kids cannot sit behind me not enough leg room. I'd prefer the eNiro but the Ioniq is fantastic.
@moritzsanne849
@moritzsanne849 5 лет назад
My last trip with my Skoda Octavia Scout Diesel was about 750 km and I paid 55 EUR (1,30 EUR/l and 6 l/100 km). The same trip I did with a new Audi A4 Diesel and paid 44 EUR because of a more efficient motor (4,5 l/100 km).I believe that's still more expensive than your bill. I wish I could get an electric- estate car with tow capacity of over a ton. Tsla forget your pickup and make a model 3 like this!Greetings from Diesel-Gate-Germany
@ruedigerpreiss9307
@ruedigerpreiss9307 5 лет назад
Yes that's the only downside of EVs that there isn't much out there (yet) suitable for towing ...
@andymccabe6712
@andymccabe6712 5 лет назад
As a number of comments gave observed Rob, your 30 mpg comment is heavy on the EV spin I'm afraid... Along with others, I easily get 55+ mpg from a 1600 diesel...
@Kiltoonie
@Kiltoonie 5 лет назад
I've been running a thrifty 1.5 litre diesel Nissan Note until this year, and we were getting 60 mpg, easy.
@t43562
@t43562 5 лет назад
I think there's an argument for not bothering to consider diesel anymore.
@jaroessa294
@jaroessa294 5 лет назад
Precisely, Andy...diesels still hold their own in the MPG race. Funny how the EV fanboys like to spin those numbers to fake advertise, eh?? Hahaha...
@davidsommen1324
@davidsommen1324 5 лет назад
@@jaroessa294 Unfortunately they don't hold their own in any other race, such as air quality, which is essential for our HEALTH. funny eh??
@ruedigerpreiss9307
@ruedigerpreiss9307 5 лет назад
You wouldn't get that with petrol, which I believe he was referring to. Even my 1.3 petrol Hybrid Jazz didn't do much over 40mpg on a motorway, I am pretty sure the normal version Jazz automatic does at beat 35 mpg and nowhere near accelerates like the Kona electric. An ICE car with similar power would be below 30mpg.
@pushcreativity
@pushcreativity 5 лет назад
I spend more on getting coffee and cakes while the car charges, not good for the wallet or my belly!
@ruedigerpreiss9307
@ruedigerpreiss9307 5 лет назад
I spent just as much on coffee and cakes when I was driving an ICE car. Actually I now spend less on coffee and cake, because I avoid stopping at Winchester or Fleet along the M3 (with the Prius I always stopped at either place). Their Ecotricity chargers notoriously don't work on CCS. Thanks to the range of my Kona Electric I can easily drive all the way from Bournemouth to Nottingham in one go and I have made a habit of making my coffee at home to take with me in a thermos :)
@JohnSmith-gb3fr
@JohnSmith-gb3fr 5 лет назад
If I had the $s . This is the EV iwould buy. 2020 Soul looks promising
@thomgun1
@thomgun1 5 лет назад
You do know that everyone who follows you is trying to work out how they can afford to finance a model 3 and it’s your fault I hope your happy
@andymccabe6712
@andymccabe6712 5 лет назад
Sadly(or not), the vast majority of the population CAN'T afford to finance TeslaM3. However, as its overpriced, too big and has severely compromised practicality on account of not being a hatchback - who cares!!
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 5 лет назад
@@andymccabe6712 Back to your diesel.
@Smidge204
@Smidge204 5 лет назад
"Hyundia" :)
@Zoyx
@Zoyx 5 лет назад
Quick napkin conversions and math. About a 5 cents per mile. I pay about 15 cents per mile in Honolulu.
@humanperson5134
@humanperson5134 5 лет назад
Needed: In-wheel Motors with Flatless Tires - and - Regenerative Shock Absorbers
@ben3989
@ben3989 5 лет назад
your week/brakes/tire is known as "unsprung weight". A car will ride worse and behave badly the more unsprung weight there is. Designers will likely avoid the idea altogether.
@humanperson5134
@humanperson5134 5 лет назад
@@ben3989 Michelin and GM are trying out a flatless tire in this link. This is one step. Add the inwheel motor as the next step, then regenerative shock absorbers and the car takes a major step forward. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LMve0myKUTw.html
@billhughes5489
@billhughes5489 5 лет назад
In Australia you can’t even get one.
@ronvds4713
@ronvds4713 5 лет назад
Yes you can, but at $60 to $68,0000
@adsheff
@adsheff 5 лет назад
The Hyundai Kona would be a game-changer of a car, however, you can't buy it! The website only lets you register your interest. This is for a car already in production. I'm beginning to worry this is yet another compliance car. Would seriously consider getting one if Hyundai allowed it.
@Kiltoonie
@Kiltoonie 5 лет назад
I have one. Its just that they are being sent all round the world too, the UK got 1,000 this year,
@michaelrch
@michaelrch 5 лет назад
I saw a handful today on Autotrader if that helps. 🤷‍♂️
@michaelrch
@michaelrch 5 лет назад
Rob Kay Yes, I get the feeling that they are sending them to the most pricey markets first. Norway has tons and I got one in Switzerland pretty easily (4 month wait). My dealer had sold about 150 by April. They are only selling the Premium SE because, well, they can. They have a queue out the door so if you don't want the top spec model, they next person will...
@adsheff
@adsheff 5 лет назад
And yet if I want to buy a fossil burning Hyundai I can do so easily.
@michaelrch
@michaelrch 5 лет назад
AdSheff Good things come to those who wait
@pdsnpsnldlqnop3330
@pdsnpsnldlqnop3330 5 лет назад
They only do 30mpg... Some beg to differ, even if they are right then that is a new thing and it is good that Robert does not actually have a clue what ICE cars do these days as he no longer uses them, ever.
@claytonroot806
@claytonroot806 5 лет назад
I own a 4,500 pound minivan with a 3.6 litre V6 Petrol engine that returns nearly 35 mpg on such road trips. 30 mpg is a piece of cake. I also own a 2018 Kia Niro Hybrid Touring (their least efficient model), you know, one of those "self charging hybrids" and it just returned a true 64+ mpg on a recent 483 mile road trip travelling above posted speed limits all the way. Cost was $36 Canadian Dollars or about 21.6 Pounds Sterling. Now here's the kicker. This absolutely fully loaded Niro Hybrid Touring cost less in Canada than a fully loaded petrol Kona. Excuse me???? The Niro is brimming with tech and premium interior materials and it still costs LESS than the substantially smaller and less well equipped ICE Kona. So all I can say is that the Hybridization in the Kia actually came for FREE. This vehicle cost me $32,300 Canadian plus tax (that's 19,380 pounds for those keeping track). On the other hand, a Kia E-Niro here in Ontario, Canada costs more than $52,000! Are you kidding me???? There is absolutely NO WAY I could ever see a return on investment for this 61% price premium for essentially the same vehicle. We love our Niro Hybrid by the way and it suits me fine with our absolutely abysmal charging infrastructure in the city of London, Ontario where I live. We'll see what's shaking out in the EV field when our lease expires in 3 years.
@tosheshdaulta8899
@tosheshdaulta8899 4 года назад
I'd be as excited to say 'Hazeldonk' myself.
@der-e-wolf
@der-e-wolf 5 лет назад
What you didn't mention: It Always, Always, Always works 😁
@error079
@error079 5 лет назад
some onscreen numbers would be nice
@PaulMansfield
@PaulMansfield 5 лет назад
Strange reluctance to name and shame Ecotricity/Electric Highway as a blight on the UK public charging infrastructure.
@jamesfagan69
@jamesfagan69 5 лет назад
This car needs to be £8000 cheaper. When is does its an absolute game changer
@GregVidua
@GregVidua 5 лет назад
2 or 3 more years.
@jamesfagan69
@jamesfagan69 5 лет назад
@@GregVidua probably a bit more but yeah its coming
@sterlingarcher4989
@sterlingarcher4989 5 лет назад
The cars are still too expensive to start with - £30k plus, for a Kona sized car is crazy. It stops me immediately, when I then look at the petrol alternatives and see the money I’m saving. Yes the money goes on fuel, but you’ve still got to buy the lecky. Has any one done a 5 and 10 year calculation?
@_TrueDesire_
@_TrueDesire_ 5 лет назад
the Kona can break down after 6 years and we can just buy another petrol version and still end up cheaper than 1 Kona EV :/
@Sthilboy56
@Sthilboy56 5 лет назад
Yep I would buy an EV tomorrow but they are just too expensive
@PaulMansfield
@PaulMansfield 5 лет назад
Save on fuel and maintenance. No road tax. Very low depreciation, almost zero on the first year.
@PaulMansfield
@PaulMansfield 5 лет назад
Also no Congestion Charge in London, no ULEZ fines. Free parking in some cities. Oh, and you're not killing people.
@_TrueDesire_
@_TrueDesire_ 5 лет назад
@@PaulMansfield feel free to donate 50% of the Kona EV then if you want more people to drive EVs...
@hughmarcus1
@hughmarcus1 5 лет назад
The range is very interesting, but Robert, please don’t over egg the pudding. My wife’s Skoda Fabia diesel consistently gets 65+ mpg. Granted you’d not get 3 blokes & a lot of kit into it. By your own admission elsewhere you struggled to get all your kit into the Kona. A diesel i40 would easily have given you 40+ mpg on that run. An electric version of the i40 estate that would be an interesting car, especially if it had 300 miles of range.
@zane1os
@zane1os 5 лет назад
Hugh Marcus my 29 year old defender does 29 mpg towing a trailer. I have no idea what cars Robert was referring to but 30 mpg from a modern car is abysmal. That said I would love an electric car if I could afford one.
@victorseal9047
@victorseal9047 5 лет назад
My smallish Jeep Compass only does 30 mpg. Also hatchbacks, and the Kona is one, are always less energy efficient and maybe that’s what Robert was referring to !?
@simonwhite2890
@simonwhite2890 5 лет назад
Hugh Marcus I’d be happy to buy an electric I40 estate
@matthewwatt2295
@matthewwatt2295 5 лет назад
If space is a concern, there's always the Kia e-Niro with the exact same powertrain but a larger body.
@richb326
@richb326 5 лет назад
900 miles would cost around £90-£100 in my 2.0 diesel
@ruedigerpreiss9307
@ruedigerpreiss9307 5 лет назад
True that. But is it as comfortable to drive as the Kona Electric? Does it accelerate in an instant and deliver 201 bhp? Is all the noise you hear coming from the tyres and wind? 900 miles isn't something the average driver does often - the average journey of individual traffic in 2013 according to statistics was 7 miles in the UK. With solar from my roof I easily can cover around 30 - 40 miles / day for free. in addition with an Octopus GO! tariff I get 120 miles / day @ £1.50 - so, in theory I could drive around 150-160 miles / day at a cost of £1.50 in charging. Hence, if I do the 900 miles locally with my day-to-day driving (what most people do), it costs me no more than £9 :). And I don't need to worry about DPF, oil change, brake pads & disc change, emission tests on my next MOT, fuel filter getting clogged up with bad diesel from ASDA, filling the wrong type of fuel into the tank, turning on the engine in winter to get the car warm or funny wires in the windscreen to de-frost and create additional glare when driving against the winter morning sun ... I could go on.
@Rich-on6fe
@Rich-on6fe 5 лет назад
Tell us about all the places you've been where it didn't work.
@Soothsayer210
@Soothsayer210 5 лет назад
why is he talking in Imperials when the whole world talks in Metric.
@simonwhite2890
@simonwhite2890 5 лет назад
Kon Tiki Because he’s English. We are quite adaptable, and can think in metric simultaneously.
@stealeyful
@stealeyful 5 лет назад
Because he is the same age as me, and that's what we do.
@Soothsayer210
@Soothsayer210 5 лет назад
@@stealeyful you can post that in your stone age web sites then. Even NASA uses Metric system now.
@DogsBAwesome
@DogsBAwesome 5 лет назад
We are hanging onto the mile and the pint of beer until the end of time or Brexit has us rooting through bins for scraps (whichever is first)
@Soothsayer210
@Soothsayer210 5 лет назад
@@DogsBAwesome lol - :)
@bibliotek42
@bibliotek42 5 лет назад
I have a 6 year Grand Scenic 1.6 diesel, and over the course of a summer's very mixed driving I get at the very least 55 mpg. I hope my next car will have a fuel cell, mainly because of the resources needed for batteries (Cobolt from the Congo and Lithium from South America.) And for every day motoring I cycle :-)
@EverythingElectricShow
@EverythingElectricShow 5 лет назад
I haven't seen a hydrogen fuel cell based comment for a while. I am a very keen proponent of HFCs but there are some enormous drawbacks that are rarely mentioned. One being the requirement for expensive rare metrals in the fuel cell, and the fact that all HFC cars have fairly large lithium ion battery packs as well as the tanks, the control systems, the fuel cell and associated cooling equipment which adds up to a very complicated vehicle that needs regular complex and quite expensive servicing. And then there's the very important question of where the hydrogen comes from. For that, there is an excellent video that explains much more than I ever could. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-f7MzFfuNOtY.html
@bibliotek42
@bibliotek42 5 лет назад
@@EverythingElectricShow This is interesting! Why does it need a battery at all? I thought the whole point of a fuel cell was to convert the hydrogen to electricity (and water). So why the battery? I am, though, well aware of the hydrogen generation question. Where I live (DK) we produce large amounts of wind power, often more than we can use, and it seems to me logical that one way to store that excess energy could be as hydrogen. But reforming hydrogen from natural gas is also possible (unfortunately for the planet), and highly undesirable as far as I'm concerned. I first learned about fuel cell cars in the midt 90's, and have been following broadly their ups and downs since then. The first 20 years I read "In 10 years there will be hydrogen cars" continually, but now, it seems, they are here! I can also see hydrogen being a potential fuel source for aircraft, as you can't make batteries power a jet engine, and propeller planes are by their very nature slower, and batteries heavy. But perhaps soon we will have to accept that rapid long distance air travel is unsustainable.
@merzto
@merzto 5 лет назад
@@bibliotek42you can't draw the power requried out of a fuel cell, it charges the batterie over time.
@logicalChimp
@logicalChimp 5 лет назад
As I understand it, batteries are required because HFCs produce power at a 'fixed' voltage (they can be made to produce variable output - but it makes the Fuel Cell orders of magnitude more complex and expensive) - so using it to charge a battery, and then drawing a variable charge from the battery to handle accelerations (and capture regen) makes the car much cheaper and more efficient. I read recently that one company was experimenting with using multiple stacks of small / cheap fuel cells (instead of one larger one) to provide variable output (by just switching on / off different Fuel Cells), but I don't know how far they got with it. Separately, from memory Lithium is the 25th most common element in the world, and comparatively easy to mine. Not only that, but the lithium for a battery only has to be mined once - unlike the fuel for an ICE vehicle. Quoting from an aside in a Cleantechnica article (cleantechnica.com/2019/06/28/bmw-lets-slip-that-its-electric-vehicles-cant-compete-with-teslas/): "...that material content of battery cells for 450+ km of range (around 65 kWh) will soon amount to as little as 220-240 kg (@300 Wh/kg), and this amount of “stuff that needs mining” is steadily decreasing as energy density and vehicle efficiency improve. Once mined and refined once, and then in duty for 12-15+ years in a BEV, and another 10+ years as stationary storage, almost all of these materials can be recycled in perpetuity for repeated use in the future..." (note: Tesla are already recycling their batteries, as are Renault - other companies are starting to follow suit) "...200 to 300 gallons of gasoline that simply go up in smoke and other emissions each year, when driving 10,000 miles in a combustion vehicle. 200 to 300 gallons at around ~3 kg (6.3 lb) per gallon - that’s 600 to 900 kg of “stuff” that needs mining, shipping, refining, transporting, storing, and delivering *each and every year*..." (emphasis mine)
@_TrueDesire_
@_TrueDesire_ 5 лет назад
the local dealership told me that the Kona can take up to 100 kW, ah well yet another car that goes off my list :/
@tavitlertritsumpun7160
@tavitlertritsumpun7160 5 лет назад
The glasses magnify your family hereditary bags under your eyes to a ginormous proportion. And could it be that the head-up display decided to switch itself off due to your rambling? ;)
@johncarson1427
@johncarson1427 5 лет назад
What’s with the person bashing there Mr. Troll, if you don’t like it simply shut it off and keep quiet!
@tavitlertritsumpun7160
@tavitlertritsumpun7160 5 лет назад
@@johncarson1427 First of all Mr. Carson, I once asked Mr. Llewelyn about the begs under his eyes and he replied to me that it's his family hereditary. Second point about the head-up display switching off you probably missed my emoji at the end of the sentence ;) . It is supposed to be a joke mate. Lighten up will you?
@jaroessa294
@jaroessa294 5 лет назад
KEY FACTS: 933 miles/3 rapid charge stops = 200% more stops than with an ICE vehicle. For some, including efficiency drivers, stopping 3x more is simply wasted time. Refueling times (based on 15 min. recharge) = 600+% slower than with an ICE vehicle. Again...poor efficiency when you look at the facts. All in all...you'll be wasting A LOT of your precious life owning an EV.
@delboy7039
@delboy7039 5 лет назад
Do you never stop for a 'comfort break' whilst driving 400 miles.?
@Kiltoonie
@Kiltoonie 5 лет назад
I don't think I have ever driven more than 500 miles non-stop, in 35 years of driving: at that point an overnight break is normally inevitable.The Kona, starting from full, can do the first 240 or 250 miles or so without a stop, after that a lunch break is essential, and a fill to 80%, then I would expect a tea & pee break at around the 400 mile mark, with a fifteen or 20 minutes top up. Actually the AA recommends taking a break every 2 hours. This is not 'wasted time' this is essential to refuel the drivers batteries.
@seba02020
@seba02020 5 лет назад
EV Owners are not wasting their "precious life" because of "waiting for the charge", because during that, they are mostly are asleep (overnight) or use toilet, or eating dinner etc. and when they are back, the car is ready. You need to change you way of thinking about "refueling" cars, try to think of it more like about your phone.
@Kiltoonie
@Kiltoonie 5 лет назад
@@seba02020 exactly: if nothing else I catch up on emails and texts etc. I reckon Jaro is just trolling!
@DiHandley
@DiHandley 5 лет назад
And how many pounds would it cost you for fuel to go that distance? A bloody lot more!
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