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Hyundai's Super-Sized Family Hauler | Is The 2020 Palisade King Of The Hill? 

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With seating for 7 or 8 and the most legroom in the class, the Palisade and its close cousin the Kia Telluride need to be on your short list. Which is the best? How do they compare to our top family pick the VW Atlas? Let's find out!
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@swanblake
@swanblake 4 года назад
The Palisade and Telluride are raising the standard for three row suvs. The value is incredible. Interior is gorgeous. Very impressed. Class leader by a lot
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
Was interested in this vehicle UNTIL I saw the lawsuit and other complaints over build quality. No thanks.
@tlevans62
@tlevans62 3 года назад
@@Nightbird. what lawsuits are there against the Palisade which is built in Korea?
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
@@tlevans62 Please stop stalking me.
@camilo8cheryl
@camilo8cheryl 2 года назад
And where is you proof?? Where is you link that you saw??
@svm2020
@svm2020 2 года назад
I was thinking about XC90 but it offers less features than calligraphy trim! Price difference-Hyundai is more spacious, better technology and 20k less expensive!!! Now I’m confused 🤔
@lowlanz
@lowlanz 4 года назад
For those folks saying there's too much Chrome in the front just imagine that this had an Audi emblem. I would have totally believed that. The luxury and space this car offers is best in class. And you get that for a very reasonable price. I call that a steal
@vlads2874
@vlads2874 4 года назад
We have it and we love it. Third row is very spacious and comfortable. No knees up your chin. A proper vehicle.
@thisorthat4195
@thisorthat4195 4 года назад
Vlad S How is passing performance? Say from 45 to 75 ?
@vlads2874
@vlads2874 4 года назад
@@thisorthat4195 Dude, it's great. It's a 3.8L V6. With 300 horses, passing ain't an issue.
@chrgav1286
@chrgav1286 4 года назад
Vlad S Just because it has a 3.8L V6 does not mean it has a good passing power from 45 to 75. “Typical American thinking”
@vlads2874
@vlads2874 4 года назад
@@chrgav1286 Typical American thinking? I own the car. The passing power is great. What do you want? A lambo? American cars such as Tahoe and Yukons suck at passing because of how their transmissions are made. Asians got better transmissions that allow for faster acceleration and more practical driving.
@tylerhumpfer2493
@tylerhumpfer2493 4 года назад
@@fcex558 engine noise is very well insulated even during acceleration.
@CumBrianFries
@CumBrianFries 4 года назад
Alex is by far the best car reviewer on RU-vid, still don't know why his sub isn't over a mil yet. Dont be discouraged and keep doing what you do Alex!
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 4 года назад
It goes largely without saying that the Palisade and Telluride have raised the bar in the larger midsize crossover category. Unless one has a priority not shared by most consumers such as outstanding substantial towing (Durango), outstanding fuel economy (Highlander Hybrid), scalding performance (Explorer ST), ease of managing multiple child seats (Atlas), canyon carving in a 16.5' long crossover (CX-9), or simply brand loyalty, it's difficult to justify an alternative. And for each of those alternatives a consumer will pay more (sometimes MUCH more) to realize them. As far as the Palisade versus the Telluride is concerned, there are few differences. Alex mentioned one key difference; the Palisade is built in Korea while the Telluride is built in West Point, Georgia. What he didn't mention was that the two vehicles are aimed at different national markets and compete with different rivals in those markets. The Telluride is aimed squarely at the mainstream 3 row crossover market in North America. It's not even sold in Korea or most other Asian and European markets. It has a "rugged" vibe that is so appealing to American consumers. The Palisade, on the other hand, is designed to compete with large luxury crossovers outside North America such as MB, Audi, BMW, and Volvo. In those markets what Americans call large "mainstream" three row vehicles are rare or non-existent. Thus, the Palisade emits a budget "luxury" vibe that's especially appealing to the growing middle class consumers in Asia, especially in the 800 lb gorilla market in China. (The Palisade is not yet for sale in China but Hyundai clearly wants to break into that market.) Personally, I prefer the somewhat simpler and less complicated looks of the Telluride. Hyundai's design language in most of their vehicles strikes me as somewhat "overstyled" with a few too many creases and bulges. Hyundai seems to think that quilted interior materials suggests "luxury" but it reminds me of my grandmother's sofa from 50 years ago. Obviously, others will differ. Beyond that, there are a couple of differences that would make a difference for me. The Palisade's headlights are located just above the lower edge of fascia. In the Telluride they're placed in a more conventional spot near the top of the fenders. Here in the Pacific NW we suffer from rocks and gravel coming down when the mountains in the Spring thaw. Headlights placed just above the bumper are far more vulnerable to those annoying little missiles thrown from vehicles ahead. It's bad enough to replace a windshield every year or two; headlights sitting 18" or so above the road are even worse. Secondly, one difference between the two vehicles is the Palisade's motorized third row seat backs that can be raised or lowered with a button. Frankly, it's so slow it makes watching paint dry seem like an active sport. And since I don't have arms like a T-Rex I find the much simpler push/pull action of the straps in the Telluride a superior solution. Further, the motorized system in the Hyundai results in the loss of about 3 cubic ft of cargo space behind the third row. The Telluride's 21 cf ranks near the top of the category; the Palisade's 18" cf is only a bit over average.
@mrsj1417
@mrsj1417 4 года назад
"It goes largely without saying"...then proceeds to write a dissertation. To paraphrase SNL: "The Guy You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation with on RU-vid".
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 4 года назад
@@mrsj1417 I'll speak to your keeper to let him know you shouldn't be forced to read the comments in the future.
@johnholst
@johnholst 4 года назад
What a homerun for the Koreans! These twins are simply the best you can buy. I wish we got the Telluride here!
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 4 года назад
Enough whining, my friend. You get diesels. We don't. :)
@johnholst
@johnholst 4 года назад
@@stephenhendricks103 Hi Stephen! Yes, we get a 2.2L D as an option for this Palisade. And we get a V6 diesel for the Mohave, which is very different from the Telluride. I always find myself wishing they'd put that 3L D in the Palisade here. It would be wicked! Stay healthy bro!
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 4 года назад
@@johnholst You, too, my friend. At least you have a government committed to knowing what's going on.
@wbwayne8887
@wbwayne8887 4 года назад
@@stephenhendricks103 Exactly. 🤦‍♂️
@johnholst
@johnholst 4 года назад
@@fcex558 If you knew anything about Korea, you'd know that no Korean is named John! I've just lived here a very long time.
@MIKEDOM
@MIKEDOM 4 года назад
I just leased an SEL 3 wks ago. I love it! I receive lots of compliments. “That’s a Hyundai? Wow!”
@wbwayne8887
@wbwayne8887 4 года назад
Congrats, we also love ours.
@tlevans62
@tlevans62 3 года назад
In the JD Power Initial Quality Survey last year, Mercedes ranked 29th, with 202 problems per hundred vehicles, while Hyundai ranked 10th, with 153. Kia ranked 2nd, with 136. Audi was 31st, with 225, and BMW was 19th, with 176. Kia, Genesis and Hyundai were in the top ten, while all the German makes, aside from VW, were below the industry average. As for Toyota, they ranked 21st with 177 problems per 100 vehicles. Kia and Hyundai Group have hired German designers and engineers to make their cars the best in class, and they're working on doing just that. They have stated many times that they want German design with Japanese reliability. Anyone saying the Korean brands are crap is an opinion not supported with facts or objective reasoning.
@johnwilson4120
@johnwilson4120 4 года назад
I go with the Palisade. I've reached the point in life where my tush lust's for a softer ride with good road manners and that seems to be present in the Palisade in spades. The Telluride is unquestionably an equally good vehicle but my taste says Palisade. YMMV.
@Teo-io4yw
@Teo-io4yw 4 года назад
Thank you Alex for mentioning the amber rear turn signals, it's very important for people who export cars from North America to Europe!! Great review as always !
@vanceforrest4085
@vanceforrest4085 4 года назад
My Palisade Limited comes tomorrow Black and Beige so you lose that speckled black filler piece in the dash. Alex something you may want to look into is doing reviews, with the growth of LED lights and this digital dash and infotainment center is a night review. This Palisade comes with 64 different colors of ambient light ooozing out everywhere under the dash, from the doors, etc. Just stunning and something well thought out that should be shown off. I’m sure other manufacturers have some of this going on to...or they will soon! Love your reviews 👍🏻
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
Good luck! The Palisade has serious quality issues and even a class action lawsuit right now: Windshields cracking (current class action lawsuit against Hyundai over this), seats that smell bad, windshield wipers that stop working in the snow or heavy rain, grills with bubbling and chipping paint, and entire electronic dashes and infotainment screens that turn off. Even the AC/Heat units have gone bad. And this vehicle isn't even 2yrs old!
@julz2392
@julz2392 4 года назад
I’ve watched multiple reviews on this vehicle to try and make up my mind, but Alex’s is the one I’ve been waiting for!
@alliejr
@alliejr 4 года назад
Great review! I’m fine with the relative sizes of the LCDs in the instrument cluster vs. infotainment. Both are “huge” and well large enough to get the job done.
@kenwingo4862
@kenwingo4862 4 года назад
I would go Palisades. You have the best reviews on RU-vid. Thanks for the good work.
@thisorthat4195
@thisorthat4195 4 года назад
The graphics during the specifications segment are mesmerizing. MESMERIZING.
@DriveAndBeDriven
@DriveAndBeDriven 4 года назад
Can always count on you to provide SPECTACULAR reviews! Hope to meet again soon. :)
@rockwjz
@rockwjz 2 года назад
One of the best Hyundais I’ve ever driven and one of the best vehicles I’ve ever driven. Extremely comfortable, extremely quiet, capable engine with a great sound to it, and basically every luxury item you could ask for.
@kentjohnson7141
@kentjohnson7141 3 года назад
At 10,000 miles, I can report that my loaded 4wd Palisade is fabulous. I’m 6’1Almost 27 mpg overall on a trip from Houston to Vail Colorado. Spacious.
@kentjohnson7141
@kentjohnson7141 3 года назад
Correction, I’m 6’10” and have good room. Family loves it. Wish it was built in the US, like the Telluride.
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
Good luck! Too bad the Palisade has serious quality issues and even a class action lawsuit right now: Windshields cracking (current class action lawsuit against Hyundai over this), seats that smell bad, windshield wipers that stop working in the snow or heavy rain, grills with bubbling and chipping paint, and entire electronic dashes and infotainment screens that turn off. Even the AC/Heat units have gone bad. And this vehicle isn't even 2yrs old!
@markpomplun2440
@markpomplun2440 4 года назад
I came home with my fully optioned Palisade SEL AWD in October and I love it. It has almost everything the Limited has except ventilated seats, cooled second row, pano roof, and digital cluster. I have the fully LED headlights and taillights, 10.25 inch infotainment and Highway Drive Assist. I was also able to get it for $1500 under MSRP with only 15 miles on it. I really recommend it and I loved it more than the Subaru Ascent, and similarly optioned EX Telluride.
@kanevivalakane3699
@kanevivalakane3699 4 года назад
Is there a body roll?
@markpomplun2440
@markpomplun2440 4 года назад
@@kanevivalakane3699 Yes, on sharp curves. It does not hold quite as firm as a Ford Explorer. However, it is still responsive when you need it to be. It is definitely softer than the new Explorers.
@kanevivalakane3699
@kanevivalakane3699 4 года назад
@@markpomplun2440 I am confused whether I should get a G80 or something like Telluride .. .Telluride and Palisade cost almost same as a G80 sedan. I want the space and road presence but I fear losing the handling performance if I buy something like a Telluride or Palisade.
@mrsj1417
@mrsj1417 4 года назад
@@kanevivalakane3699 I had the same decision to make when I tested the Lexus RX vs. brand new ES. I felt the RX was pretty darn close to the ride of the ES, but there's just something about the ride of an SUV that Seems bouncy or floaty to me, even with a nice one like the RX. In the end I got the ES and really like it. And no car sickness.
@kanevivalakane3699
@kanevivalakane3699 4 года назад
@@mrsj1417 I might buy a G80 or a Cadenza. 6 cyl Sedan is what I am aiming at.
@maemorris1880
@maemorris1880 4 года назад
Telluride for sure because of the interior design. You didn't mention the Honda Pilot, which I presently own and am very happy with.
@markmiller3279
@markmiller3279 4 года назад
I expected to prefer the Telluride, as I slightly prefer the exterior styling, but the Palisade interior feels more special, if only slightly. They're both winners, especially given the brands' excellent reliability in recent years. Now we just need a good hybrid, and the CX-9's road manners.
@johnnydwyer4261
@johnnydwyer4261 4 года назад
We picked the Palisade over many others we tested. I'm a car guy but I do find myself borrowing this from the wife quite often. We got hers in the Hyper White color, just think it looks luxurious in the white. The one complaint I do have, is lower trims have a better looking wheel and grille, not sure I understand why Hyundai does that.
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
Good luck! Too bad the Palisade has serious quality issues and even a class action lawsuit right now: Windshields cracking (current class action lawsuit against Hyundai over this), seats that smell bad, windshield wipers that stop working in the snow or heavy rain, grills with bubbling and chipping paint, and entire electronic dashes and infotainment screens that turn off. Even the AC/Heat units have gone bad. And this vehicle isn't even 2yrs old!
@bungabunga-jimford
@bungabunga-jimford 3 года назад
Alex on autos, i appreciate the way you do your videos.
@RetirementMogle
@RetirementMogle 4 года назад
I would go with the Palisade because of one thing that I don't think you mentioned, it has two way lumbar (at least in the driver's seat) and the Kia doesn't.
@tylerhumpfer2493
@tylerhumpfer2493 4 года назад
we have just over 12k mi on our SEL AWD and enjoy it, it's a smooth comfortable vehicle for long distance trips to see family. it can handle pulling my enclosed utility trailer when needed, and returns good fuel economy overall.
@ChristianRodriguez-zx5kp
@ChristianRodriguez-zx5kp 4 года назад
Hello there, does your SEL comes with dual sunroof eight seated?
@tylerhumpfer2493
@tylerhumpfer2493 4 года назад
@@ChristianRodriguez-zx5kp no the SEL does not come with the dual sun roof just the single front one (have been seeing some reports on the 21's changing packages up a bit). the 8 seats were an option but we chose the 2nd row captains instead.
@frankmaliano
@frankmaliano 3 года назад
Hi Alex. Did you do the comparison video for the Telluride and Pallisade?
@JoseFernandez-mn6qt
@JoseFernandez-mn6qt 4 года назад
For my taste, I'd go with the Palisade. Along with the fact that after test driving both of them, I find the handling of the Palisade to be much more agile than the Teluride. In fact, I don't think it deviates all that much from the CX-9. The only complaint I have about the Palisade, really, is the automatic third-row, which is not necessary. I would exchange that for a bit more space like there is on the Teluride. Overall, I find it very hard to be the Palisade's proposition. My only problem is that my brother bought one, in the same color I wanted! Darn it!
@wbwayne8887
@wbwayne8887 4 года назад
Sibling rivalry. 🤷‍♂️
@tribunation
@tribunation 4 года назад
I own a 2016 Kia Sedona with approx 32k miles and a 2018 Niro with approx 39k miles. Love them both. Reliable, comfortable, great stereo sound. Unfortunately the Sedona is one of the most depreciating vehicles in the USA. (Why... Idk)... and the Niro's fuel economy is greatly effected in cold weather by about 7-8 mpg. I will still keep them though until they start falling apart.
@s.j.1298
@s.j.1298 2 года назад
Recently (two weeks ago) purchased a 2022 Palisade Calligraphy AWD: but there are still some areas for product improvement: add power folding exterior side mirrors, add sunglass holder in interior and add illumination for the overhead light buttons above driver and front passenger (the POI buttons are illuminated but the light buttons aren't, that's odd and an omission in form/function) and those rims on calligraphy trim are a bit 'loud', design something more classy the ones on current and previous Limited trim); and last but not least, consider adding hybrid powertrain as is offered on many other Hyundai products.
@LeoTheShortGuy
@LeoTheShortGuy 4 года назад
Whoop whoop. New graphics are mind blowing.
@CammedFox
@CammedFox 4 года назад
I don't know why people call the Pallisade "divisive" or "controversial" looking. I think it's beautiful, and very aggressive looking. I do, however, think the SEL wheels look better than the Limited wheels
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
Too bad the Palisade has serious quality issues and even a class action lawsuit right now: Windshields cracking (current class action lawsuit against Hyundai over this), seats that smell bad, windshield wipers that stop working in the snow or heavy rain, grills with bubbling and chipping paint, and entire electronic dashes and infotainment screens that turn off. Even the AC/Heat units have gone bad. And this vehicle isn't even 2yrs old!
@gregsolovieff6711
@gregsolovieff6711 4 года назад
I’ve always prosyletized the virtues of minivans as the most transportation equipment for the money. The Telluride and Palisade are the first SUV’s that have elicited any of my interest. They have great visual presence, and MIGHT someday get me out of my current ride, a 2017 Kia Sedona SXL(which I love).
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 4 года назад
Looks like KIA is showing some love for the 2021 Sedona. They might hold onto you. :)
@darienmiller1032
@darienmiller1032 4 года назад
@@stephenhendricks103 The 2021 Sedona is gonna be RIDICULOUS, hold out and see what it looks like first. It's gonna blow the Telluride and Palisade out in my opinion, here's concept art: imgur.com/a/OOEcdGg
@james2042
@james2042 4 года назад
When talking about towing, there is a towing package with load leveling rear air suspension that is 100% worth it
@tylerhumpfer2493
@tylerhumpfer2493 4 года назад
yep have it on our AWD SEL, pulled my 1200lbs, almost 9ft tall enclosed trailer decently at 70mph down the interstate.
@wbwayne8887
@wbwayne8887 4 года назад
It is on ours also, but I don't think it is actually an air suspension. It works mechanically through the shocks and only when in motion if what I have heard is correct.
@jjss925
@jjss925 4 года назад
With more cars offering highway driving assistance or semi autonomous driving, are you planning to incorporate a segment such as auto highway cruise-ability? I think more people are shopping cars with this feature and currently there's no reviewers out there doing such comparisons.
@greghill5183
@greghill5183 4 года назад
I like the luxury of the Palisade over the Telluride. That's why I bought the Palisade. Love it! Great review!
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
Good luck! Too bad the Palisade has serious quality issues and even a class action lawsuit right now: Windshields cracking (current class action lawsuit against Hyundai over this), seats that smell bad, windshield wipers that stop working in the snow or heavy rain, grills with bubbling and chipping paint, and entire electronic dashes and infotainment screens that turn off. Even the AC/Heat units have gone bad. And this vehicle isn't even 2yrs old!
@mccleaf724
@mccleaf724 4 года назад
Great review Alex! One game I play in your reviews is to guess what song will be on the Infortainment screen...I got Freddie Cannon's Palisade Park right! Thanks for the ego boost!
@edysinsimon8646
@edysinsimon8646 4 года назад
You were absolutley right Alex! Looking at this review is one thing but I actually saw one on the dealer's lot and it was quite a bit smaller than I even suspected and that was a good thing in my view.
@omars.8073
@omars.8073 4 года назад
Really enjoying the upgraded graphics in this video. Your team are doing a wonderful job. Your channel was always second to none in expertise and the extra bit of polish makes it even more peerless among the other RU-vid options out there.
@robertduklus6555
@robertduklus6555 4 года назад
Alex w/o a doubt super comprehensive reviews, very standardised and consistent, love it. My suggestion would be a quick test and opinion about the headlights performance.
@isaac198428
@isaac198428 4 года назад
27mpg on the highway is great for such a big SUV, some full size sedans barely make that. This is awesome but I'd go for the more rugged looking Telluride. So many standard features even in the base trim. Add that 10yr/100k miles warranty and this is a winner. Telluride and Palisades are much cheaper than Ford Explorer, Chevy Traverse/Suburban, Honda Pilot, Toyota Highlander, Dodge Durango and Volkswagen Atlas.
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
You get what you pay for my friend. The Palisade has serious quality issues and even a class action lawsuit right now: Windshields cracking (current class action lawsuit against Hyundai over this), seats that smell bad, windshield wipers that stop working in the snow or heavy rain, grills with bubbling and chipping paint, and entire electronic dashes and infotainment screens that turn off. Even the AC/Heat units have gone bad. And this vehicle isn't even 2yrs old!
@joebrown9621
@joebrown9621 4 года назад
Its the Telluride for me.. and maybe steal a set of those Highlander Rims to throw on the Telluride or the SEL wheels
@snakebite6511
@snakebite6511 3 года назад
I plan on getting a new vehicle sometime in March/April 2021. When i started looking i was thinking the 2021 Ford Explorer because i do enjoy my Fords; however, i am really liking the new 2021 Hyundai Palisade Calligraphy edition and when you compare the price of the top end palisade Calligraphy and the top end Explorer Platinum you are looking at an $11,000 difference here in Canada and you get more with the Palisade. I think for the 1st time in over 20 years, Ford will lose me.
@cyrilmatthew2995
@cyrilmatthew2995 4 года назад
My concern is with regard to the drivetrain and engine layout. Not criticizing the palisade alone (Atlas). These are 3-row crossovers that are meant to carry more load and arguably some rough terrain as well. When these come in a front-wheel-drive biased layout, it torments the overall balance and handling of the vehicle. The engine choice of an N.A 3.8 V6 goog for the only for 290 hp and 260 lb-ft is less than adequate. Personally, I am not against NA engines but here they could have tune it to produce more torque at lower revs or could have used there in house 3.3 V6 GDI.
@tylerhumpfer2493
@tylerhumpfer2493 4 года назад
the motor is tuned towards real world efficiency, and most that I see in the owners group are beating the EPA rated numbers. it still has good passing power though and will hit triple digits faster then you would expect a 4500lbs family hauler to do so. the 3.3l TT will be used in the upcoming RWD Genesis GV80 but will be a 3.5l.
@cyrilmatthew2995
@cyrilmatthew2995 4 года назад
@@tylerhumpfer2493 got your point... To my untrained maind a big displacement with a rather lower power coupled with the fact that it wants propel a crossover this big, concerned me.
@LeeVideo
@LeeVideo 4 года назад
Palisade has 3 years service warranty that include oil change, tire rotations and a three years blue tooth - wifi link. The SEL with 2 packages and some options is the way to go.
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
Too bad the Palisade has serious quality issues and even a class action lawsuit right now: Windshields cracking (current class action lawsuit against Hyundai over this), seats that smell bad, windshield wipers that stop working in the snow or heavy rain, grills with bubbling and chipping paint, and entire electronic dashes and infotainment screens that turn off. Even the AC/Heat units have gone bad. And this vehicle isn't even 2yrs old!
@htpcnz7378
@htpcnz7378 4 года назад
if there's map display in the instrument cluster, I'd rather have a larger screen there vs infotainment - which then becomes pretty much a control screen rather than a display screen. I wish we can get these down under, including those twin sunroofs - pick it any day over CX9, Highlander or a Pathfinder. Even if they do, they are likely to price it up way more as they already price the Santa Fe at Highlanders etc.
@davidwolf226
@davidwolf226 4 года назад
I agree with the others... the new graphics are a nice change.
@MSDOGS1976
@MSDOGS1976 3 года назад
The Palisade is the easy winner to me. I had a 2013 Santa Fe XL and enjoyed it. Driving a Traverse now but may very well go back to Hyundai. I like the new Genesis GV80 but the price tag might be a little much. If demand comes down a bit prices may look better next year.
@EricV485
@EricV485 4 года назад
Saw a black one of these sitting on a side road about to come out and I immediately slowed down thinking he was a cop...these are sharp.
@dchawk81
@dchawk81 4 года назад
I agree. Explorers are nice.
@BullittHilts
@BullittHilts 4 года назад
I’d have to go with the Palisade for styling on the interior and exterior especially. I thunk the front end of the Kia looks good but, for whatever reason, I can’t stand the taillights on the Telluride. I also prefer amber turn signals, they are far more noticeable and, frankly, I think they look better. I agree with Alex in that the 2nd row would have greatly benefited from a special folding mechanism like the Atlas - if Hyundai had included that feature then there would be no contest. However, I’d still get a Hyundai over a VW for reliability ratings based on Consumer Reports. Great review as always!!
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
Too bad the Palisade has serious quality issues and even a class action lawsuit right now: Windshields cracking (current class action lawsuit against Hyundai over this), seats that smell bad, windshield wipers that stop working in the snow or heavy rain, grills with bubbling and chipping paint, and entire electronic dashes and infotainment screens that turn off. Even the AC/Heat units have gone bad. And this vehicle isn't even 2yrs old!
@chiemekaa
@chiemekaa 4 года назад
Hey Alex, the center console at 12:44 is self-opening when you PUSH the button down. No need to push down and back, a commonly made mistake.
@wbwayne8887
@wbwayne8887 4 года назад
Yeah, what Chiemeka said, your going to break it. 😂
@bextar6365
@bextar6365 4 года назад
I like it a lot, it looks like my Santa Fe's big brother. Similar front grille, headlights and side panel creases.
@makatron
@makatron 4 года назад
The boxy looking Telluride is the best of the Korean twins though. Kian and Hyundai are sure raiding the bar when it comes to a SUV with usable 3rd row seats.
@SG-yk3xh
@SG-yk3xh 4 года назад
Another great review, Alex. I just checked Toyota highlander hybrid after viewing this review. Towing capacity drops to 3500 for hybrid version. What a bummer! I wish I could have a hybrid option for towing at least 5000 lb. All Toyota hybrid versions are capped at 3500 lb. towing or lower.
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
Toyota is still way better. The Palisade has serious quality issues and even a class action lawsuit right now: Windshields cracking (current class action lawsuit against Hyundai over this), seats that smell bad, windshield wipers that stop working in the snow or heavy rain, grills with bubbling and chipping paint, and entire electronic dashes and infotainment screens that turn off. Even the AC/Heat units have gone bad. And this vehicle isn't even 2yrs old!
@tlevans62
@tlevans62 3 года назад
@@Nightbird. Toyotas are boring, uninspiring vehicles which have a load of recalls and issues with them. They were even fined by the US Government for lying about accelerator issues and covering up problems. Steer clear of those terrible vehicles. Like Mercedes, they living on a reputation they no longer deserve.
@Titan520
@Titan520 4 года назад
Palisade. Most luxurious and comfortable. Reliability and warranty..
@dretech
@dretech 4 года назад
For me, my choice will come down to Telluride (that dark green with black rims) or a pearl white Palisade. Thanks for the excellent review and video, Alex and his crew are very talented team!
@goalie2998
@goalie2998 4 года назад
I found kia was unwilling to work with me on pricing. Due to limited availability, and high interest. The Hyundai dealership was willing to come down a little bit. And that sealed the deal for me
@dretech
@dretech 4 года назад
goalie2998 yeah, some Kia dealers still mark up the Telluride. Can't go wrong with either one plus my nearby Hyundai dealer gives lifetime powertrain warranty so it's pretty tempting.
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
Too bad the Palisade has serious quality issues and even a class action lawsuit right now: Windshields cracking (current class action lawsuit against Hyundai over this), seats that smell bad, windshield wipers that stop working in the snow or heavy rain, grills with bubbling and chipping paint, and entire electronic dashes and infotainment screens that turn off. Even the AC/Heat units have gone bad. And this vehicle isn't even 2yrs old!
@R1S0.
@R1S0. 4 года назад
absolutely amazing vehicle! btw i have to ask after years of watching.... alex, please, what exactly is "a large tablet computer"...?
@andrewwhite103
@andrewwhite103 4 года назад
An hp touchscreen
@Pikminiman
@Pikminiman 4 года назад
I think "large tablet computer" refers to a 10.1-inch iPad.
@sandsoon18
@sandsoon18 4 года назад
Great review as always, Alex. Request you to please do a detailed Palisade vs Pilot comparison, specifically the SEL vs. EX/EX-L trim if possible? Thanks so much for all the amazing videos you upload!
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
Too bad the Palisade has serious quality issues and even a class action lawsuit right now: Windshields cracking (current class action lawsuit against Hyundai over this), seats that smell bad, windshield wipers that stop working in the snow or heavy rain, grills with bubbling and chipping paint, and entire electronic dashes and infotainment screens that turn off. Even the AC/Heat units have gone bad. And this vehicle isn't even 2yrs old!
@tlevans62
@tlevans62 3 года назад
@@Nightbird. cut and paste troll..do you work for Ford?
@johnnydwyer4261
@johnnydwyer4261 4 года назад
As a driver I like the 12 in instrument panel. You pay more attention to that than you do, or at least should the infotainment screen when driving. I do believe Hyundai left some things to be desired with such a beautiful big instrument panel, other than switching drive modes it is a little bland.
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
Too bad the Palisade has serious quality issues and even a class action lawsuit right now: Windshields cracking (current class action lawsuit against Hyundai over this), seats that smell bad, windshield wipers that stop working in the snow or heavy rain, grills with bubbling and chipping paint, and entire electronic dashes and infotainment screens that turn off. Even the AC/Heat units have gone bad. And this vehicle isn't even 2yrs old!
@dailyfrenchie9047
@dailyfrenchie9047 4 года назад
Thank you for this video. Especially like your detailed analysis at the end comparing the different vehicles. I'm leaning towards the Telluride but dealers are charging $5+ over sticker due to limited supply. Can't justify spending that much more on a Telluride over the Palisade.
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 4 года назад
That's a fairly common problem but it's not universal. My KIA dealer has a policy that prohibits "market adjustment" second stickers on their vehicles. Unfortunately, of course, that means a much longer waiting list for customers of that particular dealership compared to others in the area. (Especially for top trim SX-PP versions.) Ironically, KIA encourages dealers NOT to add second stickers to their vehicles.But once a dealer purchases a vehicle KIA has no control over retail pricing. When the Telluride was introduced last year KIA planned to produce 41,000 vehicles in the first calendar year. That would have been a roaring success for the brand. However, in the first 11 months after introduction about 63,000 Tellurides were sold as a result of increases in production and massive demand. The supply of vehicles has settled down somewhat but demand continues to mean a wait of five months or more in my area.
@jamesr3971
@jamesr3971 4 года назад
@@stephenhendricks103 @DailyFrenchie I purchased my Telluride SX with Prestige with my local KIA dealer who does not add market adjustment stickers but I had to order it and it took approximately 5 months and 5 days before I received it but it was worth the wait. I got the Dark Moss with the Dune Brown Nappa interior and it is extremely comfortable and luxurious feeling almost like a BMW or Mercedes Benz but without the price. There are many dealers around the country who will order one for you at MSRP or with a Costco discount if you search and are not in a hurry. Some dealers have some SX models coming in that are not pre-sold that you can find and get for MSRP or at Costco pricing if you are a member so deals can be had on even the Telluride if you are willing to spend some time and search for the vehicles.
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 4 года назад
@@jamesr3971 You have the model and color choices I'd purchase, James. I find it amusing that so many comments seem to believe KIA can control what their dealers charge for the vehicles sold to them by KIA. They cannot. With the exception of Tesla no manufacturer controls the retail price of their vehicles. No manufacturer wants to see "market adjustment" stickers on their cars; it's a black eye for the brand. In this particular case much of the blame lies with KIA dealers who under-ordered top trim Tellurides based on their historical experience that KIA customers are budget challenged and opt for mid or base level vehicles. When it turned out that dealers were seeing many customers who wanted top trim SX-PP versions, KIA had to scramble to reset their production plans.
@wbwayne8887
@wbwayne8887 4 года назад
Precisely why we bought the Palisade. I looked at the Telluride, having never seen a Palisade in person before. I saw the mark up on Tellurides, and decided to go look at the Palisade. I was very impressed, especially after driving one, and my local Hyundai dealer really wanted to deal on one also. I actually like it way more than the Telluride also now. It looks absolutely stunning in the hyper white (pearl) color. Very happy with it so far.
@henrycerny406
@henrycerny406 3 года назад
Thank you for the comparision of the competitors at the end, very helpful.
@travisf7849
@travisf7849 4 года назад
I like the telluride more. I think it looks sharper. I'd like too see a tow haul mode on these if you do decide too tow smaller things with them.
@tylerhumpfer2493
@tylerhumpfer2493 4 года назад
pulled my 1200lbs almost 9ft tall enclosed trailer decently at 70mph. had a strong head wind, and then side wind the entire trip.
@frednance3988
@frednance3988 2 года назад
The 1st time i saw a palasade when when i was with nm mom @ a Hyundai dealer and she was leasing a 2019 Tucson. While i was waiting for her i saw a family get into a Palisade that i guess was brought in for service. If i had went to the car shwo in 2018, i would have saw one. But i went in 2017 and that was the last time.
@Seattlejoe1
@Seattlejoe1 4 года назад
Look mom! New graphics! 😁 Great reviews as always.
@sheriBmo
@sheriBmo 4 года назад
Disappointed that you didn't show the awesome storage underneath the center console in the front. A huge benefit. Either way, love both the Palisade and Telluride. Hard choice between the two.
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
Too bad the Palisade has serious quality issues and even a class action lawsuit right now: Windshields cracking (current class action lawsuit against Hyundai over this), seats that smell bad, windshield wipers that stop working in the snow or heavy rain, grills with bubbling and chipping paint, and entire electronic dashes and infotainment screens that turn off. Even the AC/Heat units have gone bad. And this vehicle isn't even 2yrs old!
@sheriBmo
@sheriBmo 3 года назад
@@Nightbird. I have 2 family members and a few friends who all drive different levels of the Palisade. No issues for any of them. I am also on my 3rd Hyundai presently and they have stood by any issue (not many) I have ever had.
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
@@sheriBmo Glad to hear it. I am reading comments from people who did have issues and are going through hell trying to get Hyundai to fix the problem..so if that happens to you at any point..get a lawyer to scare them as that seems to be the only thing that works. Good luck!
@tlevans62
@tlevans62 3 года назад
@@sheriBmo just ignore the Nightbird troll, he’s cutting and pasting the same comment over and over to anyone who says they like the vehicle.
@dlwilliams10
@dlwilliams10 4 года назад
love the new updated look! Good job! Love these videos
@ktl2001
@ktl2001 4 года назад
They need to offer the 8 seats version for the top trim or offer packages for the 8 seat trims to have 360 camera view.
@kensg
@kensg 4 года назад
Great review..we went by the dealership today. Wicked SUV 🥰
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
Too bad the Palisade has serious quality issues and even a class action lawsuit right now: Windshields cracking (current class action lawsuit against Hyundai over this), seats that smell bad, windshield wipers that stop working in the snow or heavy rain, grills with bubbling and chipping paint, and entire electronic dashes and infotainment screens that turn off. Even the AC/Heat units have gone bad. And this vehicle isn't even 2yrs old!
@kensg
@kensg 3 года назад
@@Nightbird. Dam..well I didn’t know that. I hope they work it out, and take care of the customers that put down their hard earned money 💰.
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
@@kensg That's the problem. Customers think they are safe with that long warranty. But when those customers have problems they state Hyundai is horrible and doesn't want to fix anything for free under their warranty and blames the customer. I'm sticking with Toyota..lol.
@ambiencecalming5252
@ambiencecalming5252 3 года назад
@@Nightbird. My wife bought a sonata used from Carmax that was still under the 100,000-mile warranty (We got it with 42k), we drove that car everywhere back and forth to Orlando because our daughter plays travel soccer and most of the tournaments were played there. When the car's mileage got to about 98k we started to have engine problems. We took the car to Rick Case Hyundai here in South Florida, Their customer service was outstanding. They replaced the engine and gave us a loaner car a Kia soul (nice car really) We kept the car until 113k and traded it in for Kia Optima which runs great and is very comfortable. Same 100K warranty too :) Yes, some folks may have problems..it happens. And I have a Toyota Yaris 2007 with over 100K miles no problem yet...But I bought that new, go figure.
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
@@ambiencecalming5252 Glad you had a good experience. I myself inherited and own a Hyundai Sonata. I'm a Mercedes Benz S Class driver but figured I'd keep the Sonata for grocery store or other mundane trips since I don't want my expensive MB sedan getting dings in parking lots. The Sonata has been the most reliable car I have ever had. However..it is an 06 and incredibly simple mechanically and isn't full of all the electronics the Palisade is. And that's the problem with the Palisade. All of those neat electronics haven't been long term tested and are causing issues. Also another problem is good customer service isn't across the board with Hyundai dealerships. When my Sonata had an issue one dealer refused to give me a loaner while it was in the shop for a few days. But another dealer did..although it was the smaller and rougher Elantra which ended up hurting my back. And they wanted to charge me $800 for a repair that cost me $35 and less than an hour of my time to fix. So..I'm glad you had a good experience and lucked out with a good dealer and service center. But too many people are finding out the hard way that while Hyundai's warranty sounds wonderful..getting them to honor it and/or finding a dealer that will take care of you is sadly a totally different thing. And the Palisade isn't cheap like a Sonata..so it is inexcusable for spending that much money on a vehicle and not getting good warranty service.
@goalie2998
@goalie2998 4 года назад
Just bought one today. Cant wait to pick it up. Coming from a sorento
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
Good luck! Too bad the Palisade has serious quality issues and even a class action lawsuit right now: Windshields cracking (current class action lawsuit against Hyundai over this), seats that smell bad, windshield wipers that stop working in the snow or heavy rain, grills with bubbling and chipping paint, and entire electronic dashes and infotainment screens that turn off. Even the AC/Heat units have gone bad. And this vehicle isn't even 2yrs old!
@tlevans62
@tlevans62 3 года назад
@@Nightbird. there are very, very few issues with this vehicle, stop trolling.
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
@@tlevans62 Please stop stalking me.
@GarrettWorcester
@GarrettWorcester 4 года назад
As of 03-11-2020, it's going to be the Palisade in the lead over the Telluride, unless and until I convince myself why having a third row is so important to me. Pre-teen Granddaughters you only see once or twice a year is a silly reason to obsess over an extra row of seats.
@nabil1969
@nabil1969 3 года назад
I have a question. Between Hyundai Palisade, Kia Tellluride and Toyota Highlander which one was better about test drive, comfortable driving and driver seat?
@lisapinkerman6950
@lisapinkerman6950 4 года назад
Palisade for me!
@gene978
@gene978 4 года назад
WOW 10/10 Seat Comfort!!! I know you don’t hand those out freely. I Like Both Korean models for different reasons but if I had to pick I think Palisade as I think you get a little more for your money. Not a super fan of that grill although I haven;t been up close to it.
@markmiller3279
@markmiller3279 4 года назад
I think it looks better in person. Photos are often taken at very low angles you'd only get if you squatted in front of the vehicle. Standing on a curb the grille is less dominant.
@RobertLeBlancPhoto
@RobertLeBlancPhoto 4 года назад
I'm looking forward to the next gen MDX.
@user-xt8pw4jn6e
@user-xt8pw4jn6e 4 года назад
Lol same
@Ken-vl4wk
@Ken-vl4wk 3 года назад
$15k more.
@drw1926
@drw1926 3 года назад
While I definitely prefer the Palisade to the Telluride I think I'll wait until its mid-cycle refresh and hope that they clean up that hot mess of a front fascia.
@petegalindez9961
@petegalindez9961 2 года назад
Nice looking car…Drove the Telluride. Wasn’t blown away, but nice. Hoping this is a more luxurious ride…why don’t you have the Telluride on your size chart? I prefer the Palisade over the Telluride as I would go for the top trim and the Telluride only comes with those hideous black rims…those went out in 2015…
@josej.6329
@josej.6329 4 года назад
Love the new graphics!!!
@gs98999
@gs98999 4 года назад
Looked at all the players in the segment and ended up with one of these. It really is a great package overall.
@andrewwhite103
@andrewwhite103 4 года назад
Agreed its the jack of all trades
@dredawg679
@dredawg679 4 года назад
Love to new look Alex great job!!!
@johncavaliere7450
@johncavaliere7450 4 года назад
I convinced my father to get the Telluride and he is loving it. I however am not 100% sold there seems to be something missing. I used to sell Volkswagens and I will say if I was in the market for a three row SUV I would look at the Atlas for it's 6 year 72,000 mile warranty and superior interior quality and crazy incentives, the Toyota because if I would love to have such a huge car but still get 36+ mpg, or my number one choice the Dodge Durango because there is absolutely nothing better than a V8 and I absolutely love FCA's infotainment.
@VIRGI779
@VIRGI779 3 года назад
I recently bought it for my wife and she loves it.
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
Good luck! Too bad the Palisade has serious quality issues and even a class action lawsuit right now: Windshields cracking (current class action lawsuit against Hyundai over this), seats that smell bad, windshield wipers that stop working in the snow or heavy rain, grills with bubbling and chipping paint, and entire electronic dashes and infotainment screens that turn off. Even the AC/Heat units have gone bad. And this vehicle isn't even 2yrs old!
@VIRGI779
@VIRGI779 3 года назад
@@Nightbird. si far no issues. Let’s see what happens.
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
@@VIRGI779 Good luck amigo!
@bmlove81
@bmlove81 3 года назад
I'm predicting a turbo charged version of the Palisade and Telluride in the not too distant future!!
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
Once they get all the quality issues resolved and settle the class action lawsuit..lol.
@kingssing
@kingssing 3 года назад
Very nice, just don't understand the directions of the tachometer and music trach toggle hhmm
@gene978
@gene978 4 года назад
27MPG at 70 MPH? That’s excellent for this size. I imagine at 40-60 MPG one could average 30ish
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 4 года назад
Don't count on it. Running steadily at 70 mph allows the engine to operate continually on the Atkinson cycle that saves gas at the expense of performance. Driving between 40 and 60 mph will likely require shifting to the conventional Otto cycle more frequently.
@jamesr3971
@jamesr3971 4 года назад
@@stephenhendricks103 I agree as I have the Telluride SX with Prestige package and currently have about 2,250 miles on it. I just recently took it on a highway trip of about 270 miles on the Interstate and I got 25 MPG running at 80 MPH on a consistent basis. Using ECO mode in city driving between 35 and 55 MPH, I am getting right around 20 MPG which is still better than the 19 MPG city and 24 MPG highway that was on the vehicle window sticker from the EPA when I bought it so I am extremely surprised and pleased about the MPG received for a 3 row midsize SUV.
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 4 года назад
@@jamesr3971 Sounds like your Telluride is doing what it's supposed to do. i.e switching to the Atkinson cycle seamlessly when appropriate. KIA (and Hyundai who supplies all of KIA's engines) have long been challenged in terms of fuel economy. It's one of their very few weaknesses. It's clear that they tried to address the issue with the Telluride and Palisade.
@tylerhumpfer2493
@tylerhumpfer2493 4 года назад
@@jamesr3971 we use smart or comfort mode on our Palisade mostly and saw the same results of around 25-26mpg at around 75-80mph. Grippier all weather tires have brought it down to around 21-22mpg though now, but they really helped with snow traction.
@wbwayne8887
@wbwayne8887 4 года назад
Driving in Smart driving mode and using the adaptive cruise at 60mph, I have seen a trip computer indicated 32mpg on the highway. I was actually very pleasantly surprised.
@garyradley5694
@garyradley5694 3 года назад
Hired a Honda Civic in the UK and it had push button gear selection. Very quick to learn how to use. Caused no problem at all and freed up a lot of space in the console, which is feature I like with my Mercedes which has a drive lever on the steering wheel. I would now NEVER buy a car that had a traditional gear selector on the console. Much slower to use and a great waste of space.
@robgrune3284
@robgrune3284 2 года назад
driving comfort and seats are critical factors for me. a pity this suv skimps on the passenger seat. I would gladly pay a small premium to have fully power adjustable. otherwise, the suv is a step ahead of the competition.
@sleze
@sleze 3 года назад
If it weren't for AoA, I never would have considered the Telluride or the Palisade. We ended up getting the Palisade and got a LOT of car that was a LOT less expensive than we would have paid if we got a comparably equipped Pilot, Highlander or Explorer (and a LOT more reliable than the Ascent). Styling was the only slight difference between the Telluride.
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
Good luck to you. Was interested in this vehicle UNTIL I saw the lawsuit and other complaints over build quality. No thanks.
@mucisibale
@mucisibale 4 года назад
I dig the new side graphics
@adventuretraveling8957
@adventuretraveling8957 4 года назад
Excellent review as always plus best camera 🎥 angle on car 🚗 so we can see better view.
@Al13n1nV8D3R
@Al13n1nV8D3R 4 года назад
The infotainment should always be bigger than the instrument cluster because it is easier to see the instrument cluster at a glance than the infotainment screen. The bigger the infotainment screen the easier to identify words and icons the less time you will spend looking at it thus reducing distraction while driving.
@xray111xxx
@xray111xxx 4 года назад
This is cool but the Telluride is more of my taste.
@austinfaberman1069
@austinfaberman1069 4 года назад
You missed the mark by not including the Ascent in your comparison
@Ken-vl4wk
@Ken-vl4wk 3 года назад
4 cylinder vs V6. No comparison.
@austinfaberman1069
@austinfaberman1069 3 года назад
@@Ken-vl4wk These vehicles are *direct competitors*. Along with Pilot, CX-9, Highlander, Pathfinder, Telluride, etc. If you think that a modern turbo-4 is "no comparison" with a NA V6, you are living in the dark ages. CX-9 has more torque than all of these. Plus, most customers in this class don't know/don't care.
@reyperez3424
@reyperez3424 4 года назад
I’m still happy with my pilot 6spd 2019
@TheTruePrudentOne
@TheTruePrudentOne 4 года назад
Great video @alexonautos, I was wondering do you tjing that there will be a hybrid system also in regards to size, where does the ford explorer fall on your vehicle size scale in comparison to the pthers?
@PeteEbenezerrNewman
@PeteEbenezerrNewman 4 года назад
I would probably go for the mid trims of Palisade or Telluride with additional options
@tomsriv
@tomsriv 4 года назад
Very nice, but I still prefer the Explorer for the handling, RWD and overall efficiency.
@Nightbird.
@Nightbird. 3 года назад
Good choice! Too bad the Palisade has serious quality issues and even a class action lawsuit right now: Windshields cracking (current class action lawsuit against Hyundai over this), seats that smell bad, windshield wipers that stop working in the snow or heavy rain, grills with bubbling and chipping paint, and entire electronic dashes and infotainment screens that turn off. Even the AC/Heat units have gone bad. And this vehicle isn't even 2yrs old!
@maxdenys5645
@maxdenys5645 4 года назад
Waiting for Genesis GV80.
@greatlama
@greatlama 4 года назад
talking about your new graphics: 1 real nice, 2 will the cylinders oppose when reviewing Subaru's, 3 will you change the gears with a belt when reviewing CVT's?
@andrewwhite103
@andrewwhite103 4 года назад
The best in the segment!
@RichardShelton
@RichardShelton 4 года назад
Great review, thank you! I tend to lean towards the Palisade. I don't mind push-button shifters, in fact I like the extra room you gain. But, the buttons feel backwards to me. "D" should be forwards, and "R" should be towards the rear, like boats were when we went water skiing. But, I'm an old fart and boats have probably changed a lot since I was in one. Thanks again for the nice video, Alex.
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 4 года назад
Different strokes for different folks. The pushbutton transmission control reminds me of a 1957 DeSoto. :)
@tylerhumpfer2493
@tylerhumpfer2493 4 года назад
the button layout follows the PRND almost all automatics use.
@markmiller3279
@markmiller3279 4 года назад
I wish they had gone with a toggle or rocker switch instead, as it would be easier to use by feel and take up no more space. At least these buttons are big and have surrounds so can be found by touch. The worst are a row of identical little buttons like some American makes have used. Those you have to look at. Oh, and the rotary knob like Jag uses is stupid, too.
@markmiller3279
@markmiller3279 4 года назад
@@stephenhendricks103 My Dad loved his '57 Desoto. He was still praising that gadgety car decades later. The problem was less the idea of pushbuttons than how unreliable it was in those Fifties cars.
@tylerhumpfer2493
@tylerhumpfer2493 4 года назад
@@markmiller3279 the rotary dials are just as good/awesome as the push buttons here.
@Techjunkiero
@Techjunkiero 4 года назад
Great and very informative review as usual! The new intro and graphics are really nice.
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