I Accidentally Fell Down the Funniest Rabbit Hole 

true always like this

It is gonna be hilarious for sure

Already finished it at 4x speed

A one and a half hour reaction video means he watched at least five minutes of the actual video pog

Well, if he did we would had an 3 hours video instead

@@MichaelLodaall he did was add a 1 or 2 at the end

@@MichaelLoda are you MrGM fake youtube account?

Mapmakers do this regularly with fake villages and roads.

@@hoangcu9093 there are statistical ways to tell if someone did this because people arent good random number generators

​@@xplorethingsso thays why i keep getting lost

My subconscious thoughts before ever YT rabbit hole, including this one :\

i want a t-shirt with this!!!

33:02 for those who are seeking this legendary meme

i read this comment exactly as he was saying that. kinda creepy

Lmao ikr?!

All the WoW content creators defending MrGM on Twitter roflmao. Never change WoW community 🤡🤡

@@ThrallsHammer get instantly blocked by mrgm and their dck rider after saying that mrgm stole moudi idea/research/guides after watching asmong video lol, and now some of his viewers making false accusations about me and other people sending death threats to him and his family, they even mention/retweeting my comment/reply lol.

​@@ThrallsHammerthat's because the only ones left have no integrity, the ones that did left during the mass exodus.

​@@ThrallsHammerThey probably do it too, but are just better at concealing it. . 😅

We are the NPCs in Bobby's world

@@RelativisticVelocity Well met

​@@RelativisticVelocityis Uncle Ted around?

Same, I do not and have never played WoW but I was quite invested in this drama by the end of the video lol

Even vetter, I played WoW about 20 minutes and realized I strongly don't like this game and yet I watched this video in full )

This comment is way too accurate.

Same bro same

Same.

Yes, same for me

Ya you don’t discredit the guy you’re not stealing from; unless you have no one else to steal from lol

Enough for me to go down vote every Mr GM video. Moudi wouldn't leave the partnership program just because Blizzard doesn't believe his fantasies. Moudi is willing to die for his beliefs and the world needs more support of those who believe in integrity.

In GM’s defense, I’m gunna be petty towards someone that’s schizo asf to me to everyone we know all the time. He’s been acting like this for long before the video.

Moudi is 1000% correct. People are riding on him for not being a native English speaker and not bringing his point across as coherently as possible.

@@zenmonk5403 No Moudi is 100% being a schizo with a cork board in his bedroom hate watching MrGM to find every single time he's done similar things to him. He fails to bring anything that's actually content theft from him, "I was unaware I needed proof" is the stupidest thing. He's crying that he makes similar videos to him and saying memes like "be honest, you don't have to lie to me.". Even with his side of the story I'm doubting him, with all the framing and arguments from this guy, he doesn't bring up a single shred of actual evidence of content theft. It's like Asmongold said at the start, it's like a weatherman crying about another news station copying his broadcast, Especially considering a Dev literally states he leads PTR players to conclusions.

@@DunningofKruger If he were hate watching him all the time, there would be more footage from the stream. The lack of it is exactly due to time reasons. And since MrMinge already showed himself to have the honor of a rat, he would probably immediately copyright strike a video with predominantely footage of his stream.

Literally doesn't matter if he is right in regards to the outcomes and issues he's perceiving though.

@@zenmonk5403 literally proving my point “If he was hate watching he’d have more footage.” Exactly, and because all he has is like 3 comments and a video upload does that not prove my point exactly? Editing someone that’s borderline harassing you out of an image is hardly “the honour of a rat.”

So true lmao

Shit that comment hit me hard. Here I was thinking "I'm so over reality TV" being all proud, meanwhile I'm sitting here with the flu watching him live like "oooooo detective asmon is on the case". But damn I love this shit.

@@PizzaPatroll God damn.. that was a hell of a wake up call right? XD

so is literally every youtube drama online of people watching that has no connection to the dramapeople but dive into the argument :D

Fuck. Can't unsee. It's true.

Same with out of context freakouts. I've seen context added to some of those videos where the person recording was physically assaulting the person who had the freakout in the video. You don't actually know what's real or not until you see the context.

I never played this game and i watched it all lmao

I thought that part was the weakest argument in the whole video. Telling someone that is harassing you that you don't know who they are is just a way of trying to piss them off. If you call me a little bitch and I say "I don't even know who you are" it's just a comeback, not a statement of fact.

bro edited the guys name out in a vid! he absolutely did know him xD@@Jeffrey_Tyler

​@@Jeffrey_Tylerunless you're thanos

They are both very petty.

@@razz5841 pretty*

I feel like this happens a lot. it was the case with the whole Runescape debacle from like....several months ago? A year ago? Sit down, write out bullet points. Make a case. But like, these people just come off like theyre ranting.

Partial part of the issue here is that it is very clear that English is not Moudi’s main language (from my understanding he’s Swedish (which I am), from a country which has a generally high understanding of English but is not necessarily 100% proficient in it). Add on top of that the fact that he is evidently invested in this and has been agitated for months it seems like if not even longer. I am not surprised the way it’s presented is subpar for his education. And I can almost guarantee that if this video was made in Swedish, on a subject that did not emotionally agitate him as much, it would be much more professionally done and better structured.

He has a Phd and always been a passionate guy, we haven't been close friends but known about each other's existence for over 20+ years, and as far as i remember we both have had same difficulty to hold back and keep our emotions in check when we've been wronged. I'm kind of sad that he didn't present his case in a calmer manner but also a bit emotional that he's the same guy he was in high school 🥲

Try to get one of manipulative girlfriend, passive aggressive at its finest. and you become Moudi. Everyone will hate you and on your girlfriend side.

​​​@@FoxiestLiait's not a language gap, he was very eloquent when attacking the professionalism of the Community Manager. The problem comes from repeated accusations without smoking gun proof. As Asmond says, he's so far into it that he can't see why a reasonable person would doubt him. He should have never reached out to the CM without the evidence in hand. There is no excuse for waiting to be asked, as if he is entitled to be believed because he knows it's true. It's not a language gap that he DM'd someone with unwanted correspondence to just say 'STAHP IT!' Repeatedly. What did he expect to accomplish? The thief would say "Oh yeah ur right my bad". It just doesn't make sense. That is how playground quarrels are handled. Sue the guy, provide indisputable proof, or stop harassing the guy.

Just finished the video. Asmon you are hilarious

He proved a good hit more, asmon missed some in the back and forth segment

the second point you made is indeed very very good. it sounded like MrGm said "just let me steal and make money off of it"

Mr GM din do nuttin

3. Moudi provided 0 evidence 4. Blizzard literally confirmed they had been giving both people the same hints at the same time 5. Innocent until proven guilty. MrGM has no obligation to prove his innocence. It is perfectly reasonable of him to tell Moudi to f off and leave him alone. If you see this as "evidence" for anything, you need to get your brain rot checked by a doctor.

Isn't it denying something, if Mr. GM says "I have no idea who this guy is", when we then get clear evidence that he deletes his name on lists in screenshots and such? I'm not saying it's 100 % proof Mr. GM is stealing content, but he does appear to lie about things in the case.

@@tangovicious4224 MrGm 100% is the scumbag here. In my opionion there is just too much evidence.

Only If they use your research. What is normal in science. And you can always arrive to similar results without consulting other parties, while its good practica before you publish anything, you do a full literature review

Yeah

That was my takeaway as well. No one hates plagiarism as much as science professors.

I think it's just a matter of respect. It's pretty obvious that MrGM has relied on Moudi's research in order to put stuff together, to a pretty substantial degree. To then try and say he has no idea who he is, and then to feign discovery of things when they have already been documented... It's pretty much as blatantly disrespectful as you can get.

To be fair most other game's creator communities do this. They always start by "Check out this cool thing X discovered, I watch them a lot and I am glad they figured this out. Go give them a like and sub." Whereas in WoW every creator just straight Cntrl Copy Pastes people's full typed-up guides into a video and doesn't mention a name ever. Which is all it would take to avoid this stuff.

Or releasing a video guide with waypoints that are manually placed on the map traditionally, and they are exactly the same down to the micrometer

This is what you gotta do.

Problem with the poison pill method is that you are also giving bad info to your real viewers.

​@@AlexanderPearson yeah it'd be smart to call out the stealer, but at the same time it'd hurt his credibility at the same time. Like when fextra life puts out incorrect info just to be the first wiki on a game

​​@@apensalesmanI think instead of fake info use an guide that is very rarely ever use or that most common gamers would not look for in a guide.

@@AlexanderPearson The thing is though is that it doesn't have to be all that harmful, it could simply be a number that is slightly different/off from what is right or he could add a word that doesn't actually exist and see what happens lol.

To be fair he didn't react he dissected.

💯!!! Exactly! And with the precise amount of rain drops calculated as a little bonus.

Fax. Guy like play victim card

Never trust a roach, unless they say they are goinng to survive.

He never left, he swapped to his incognito tab😂

So true. Real normal human beings see that as red flags.

On one hand moudi seems crazy but genuine and honest but Mr gm fails the vibe check so hard that I believe moudi 100 percent

Yup, like another commenter said, this is what being gaslit and cry-bullied looks like. You get unhinged and then the perpetrator points at you and plays victim.

you shouldn't be on eithers side, like the wow Dev made clear, Moudi doesn't own this content just because he publishes it first.

@@MGC-XIII it's not that deep man

​@@MGC-XIIInobody cares what a wow dev said. Wtf does a nerds voice in a fake world matter. In what universe.

@@projectgg6730 yea its not that deep like moudi is making it. who gives a shit

​@@MGC-XIIIciting and giving credit is a moral choice, and its what moudi wants from the guy. And I agree. In science, its a huge taboo to not cite the hard work of others that you're using--so I get why this might irk him so much

*grabs shovels* let's keep digging boys

Mr GM should do it with a ukulele

easily 3 hours asmon video. EASILY

We need to go deeper

Deeper… HARDER!!

Thank you mate! I was wondering why people can't follow moudis logic, but I'm autistic as well so I think like this to begin with.

Have you proven Implausible Reliability?

How many cases have you won, Mr Brainrot?

@@Pendji all of the cases

@@Pendjiwhat….. ohhh Is this about race for you? _Ji_ ?

I giggled for like 10 minutes after this comment. Too bad it's not billable. 😆

found him the same way. never touched wow. i think this drama is hilarious tbh

​@@XenonArcherwe all care dude. I swear

I know nothing about WoW but somehow watching Asmon break down WoW drama has me invested

@friedporchetta3302 exactly. Asmond is so good at breaking things down, explaining points from both side's and being rational. And if he doesn't know the answer, he admits as much. His reaction videos have kept me coming back. I think I've caught maybe 1 or 2 of his streams lmao

@@grilledleeks6514 lol

They don't like to listen

Because he did himself a disservice in the first quarter of the video. He made a significant number of assertions over too long a period of time that it came across initially as some guy accusing someone of BS. He may be right but the video itself was not formatted particularly well

That made me laugh

100% agree

I find it kind of important. You would expect the guy who makes that content for a living to be the one who produces results. Instead he is just ripping off other peoples hard work, that was done in their spare time! What will happen if this continues? Most likely the guy who produces the results will quit and the guy who ripped off the work will move on to leech off from the next member who is producing results, until it a) either stops or b) everyone who did free work for the benefit of us all is gone and the leecher managed to make the whole community a worse place for everyone.

Shit tell that to courts bro

@@yuno1781 imagine if this drama actually went to a legal system for infringement

You can make claims you just can't make conclusions without evidence

You'd think a PHD in any branch of science would be very thorough with finding demonstrable, repeatable proof too

Hearsay is and has always been admissable in western courts, hearsay evidence is weighed against the credibility of the person that submitted it by the judge hearing it

I think his emotions made him less rational. He could’ve definitely exposed the truth by either showing DMs or setting up something very small and insignificant but unique in his guide as a trap and wait for it to get copied.

The problem isn't Moudi. It's society, for being a place where a true victim is called a whiner; you know, the same place where people get called snitches for pointing out others doing the wrong thing. We used to call those people heroes.

It'd be one thing if he gave moudi credit, hyped him up for doing good work, and linked his shit. A lot of RU-vid grifters like this exist for PoE as well. I was on team Moudi within the first few minutes.

Nice try moudi

Moudi attempting to gaslight us on his alt:

He clearly lacks talent in regard to his WoW content seeing as his channel it still tiny after 8 years of uploads.

he remind me of Joe Rogan

So the thing is, he could just ignore the 'theft', and move on with his life. Well obviously it bothers him quite a bit, but processing this emotionally seems more important than anything else. I'm not sure he can get a satisfactory outcome

if mrgm ISplaying wow all day every day when does heget time to investigate and make the guides ? 1.he is either searching wow head (they cant be that fast cause creators will find and post or tweet about it first ) 2.he has a team that makes if for him and all he does is recites it (They may also get from moudi and other creators ) 2.he gets it from moudi and changes a few things

@@DarthRambo007 Well thats plagiarism. He should've credited him. It doesn't matter how busy someone is. They still need to do their due dilligence.

​@@MichaelLodastealing is morally wrong.. but I guess that's subjective as well nowadays.

@@MichaelLoda you are all over here pushing your lies....what's up with that?

@@MichaelLoda if you watched to the end then you saw the vote. Lol keep trying.

@@R2D242D I mean there are more things speaking against MrGM than for him. Like his body language, him not even directly denying the stealing, him not showing that he had prior conversations were moudi allegedly insulted him etc. . Additionally MichealLoda is sus for spamming his support for MrGM under several comments without bringing any arguments. But the vote at the end of the video doesn't prove anything, it simply reflects where Asmon's viewers lean after watching Moudi's video. You don't create evidence of someone's guilt by majority voting it into existence.

@@MichaelLoda did you miss the part where Asmongold said there were at least two indusputable pieces of evidence damning MrRat

Sorry for your loss... (hair)

It's not Halloween yet, so hold that L.

Next year I should be the totinos pizza and my husband can be the spider web.

@@GazerPlur420Some towns have Trick or Treating on the weekend before if Halloween is on a weekday, because of it being on a school night. Take that fuckin L.

@@mochabearry Miss me with that L. Trick or Treating is done on Halloween school or not.

Gaving bad arguments =/= prejudice.

Are we watching the same videos? Where did he realise Moudie might be right? Moudi is entirely wrong here

@@ramendude4062 literally responding to every sentence the guy was saying, and even trying to dismember logic things Asmon even says like when talking about how people that like one creator normaly stand for that creator and calling that a "bad argument" when he preaches it too. So, yes, prejudice. "I dont make money from ads on youtube" BuT YoU MaKe MoNeY oN YoUr PaGe!!!! No one going to a wow page to see drama, only the guides, so, this video has no ads and wins 0 dollars if 1 or 300 million people see it, but was a bad argument it seems.

@@MichaelLoda In the video Asmon clearly does not like Moudie to start the video and begins with skepticism but after Moudie presents some evidence, even though Asmon doesn't agree with all of it he agrees that some of it is valid. The two being 1. Why go out of your way to edit a screenshot to remove Moudie from the picture and 2. Why claim you don't even know him? Then go out of your way to do that? This proves MrGM is a little shady. I think it's weird to go as far as to photoshop someone out of that picture and then claim you don't know him to others. Asmon also says that Moudie gives off a schizto persona so it's hard to believe him but his arguments are actually valid. The other dude also just looks guilty and is a proven liar. I feel like if the case was the same but the personalities of Moudie and MrGM were switched, Asmon would 100% agree with Moudie.

​@@MichaelLodaare you blind?

The anime adaptation of this story is coming out in 2024

i started laughing my ass off when he started showing clips on his phone like it was a found footage film and all you could hear was banging sounds in the background

Yeah the Dillon Danis video, but this guy is tilted to the earth and not very bright so he can't come up with a good plan like this

@@alfred9805unless this is all part of his plan to make MrGM think he has no evidence. So that GM doubles down. Then when he does. He shows the evidence which will destroy him even more. ITS ALL APART OF THE PLAN

It’s not that he’s stupid, it’s that he actually cares about making real content for his viewers.

The problem is that MrGM probably knows what he is doing, and would try out methods before posting. Doing numbers and stuff is kinda different though, that is easily used to fool a plagiarizer.

This. I really dislike any content creator that have such close ties with Blizzard. You know, the usual suspects.

I hate react content, but I’ve been watching Asmon for years way before any of this react trend and I think he’s a cool dude so I don’t mind :)

He was doing this before the trend actually started. The ones that went this route( we all know them) just did it while eating, not talking, and even going to run errands while the video plays. Lol

Trying to be able to see different perspectives yet stay objective is a valuable thing.

Thats because most of the react content are fake overreaction lol. Asmon just shit on it if he have to. @@bryandmgz

other "reactor" are just watcher

I wouldn't even be mad if in fact they both are in cahoots. This was honestly really entertaining. 😂

As someone who knows moudi personally this cracked me up 😂

@@ephasmtell him to post evidence then. This was an entertaining video to watch but he seems to actually care about this. So if he actually cares about the outcome and hasn’t shown evidence. ESPECIALLY as a scientist, then I believe he is just saying bullshit things with some truth sprinkled on top

@@xLoneWolf22x I've actually not spoken with him since this all happened. I mean you can believe whatever you want, it doesn't bother me one iota, and i gotta be honest, I doubt Moudi cares as well. I suspect this is more to get his side of the story heard than convince a jury.

@@ephasm if he didn’t care we wouldn’t be here. I’m just saying a helpful thing that you should probably tell your friend so it helps him keep his hobby fun and successful

Because it is

@@everythingpony dun dun dunnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

The tragic part of this is he is doing such a terrible job at proving this. He makes it so hard to follow when he is mixing proof, hearsay, and baseless accusations. I am still on the fence if its true, conspiracy, or him being schizo/paranoid.

The southcal lady killer

​@@fallinggravity9964it's even worse imo if you consider he's a PHD in STEM, he should easily be able to break apart the facts from his feelings here and make a breakdown of the events citing specific evidence for each one. If he had done an experiment before coming out with this as well with fake information he could have proved it as well.

You don't know what free market means lol

Yeah the frustration has clearly been building up for months.

The sad thing is, without justice people like Moudi, who do all the work for the community for free will quit doing it. MrGM is not just hurting Moudi unneccessarily for his personal gain, but is profiting at the expense of the whole community like a parasite.

if you have ability to analyze it deeper, you can see where the emotions come from. Ofc presentation matters, but i always try to think what makes one emotionally unstable and include it to whole picture.

10 minutes in and we're just starting the story!

and 26 minutes in the plot thickens, reminiscent of Dickens

rollercoaster!

about an hour in and I'm likin Moudi and thinkin this MrGM guy has an obligation to listen to Moudi!

oh, there's still 30 more minutes!

He’s says “this isn’t about money”

@@ellesceranytime someone says it isn’t about the money… it’s about the money

​​​​@@johnwarner4178 fr it's so dumb. Hes mad because a bigger content creator is copying his content and not sending any views his way, that's it. "oh it's immoral 😭" does anyone believe he really cares about that? He cares about how well his channel does, and someone copying his content and doing it better makes him furious. If he was honest and said, "yeah man these are ideas I came up with so I could make a little bit of money, n this bigger content creator is taking money that could be in my wallet" I'd have atleast had some respect for him for being honest. But people aren't going to his channel because of a multitude of reasons, if he's making the content first surely they'd go watch him right?! Except they don't, they go watch the other guy because they think his content is good/better. Ain't it funny there's one million Mr beast clones yet Mr beast still is the biggest? Not a great example since Mr beast does it first n doesn't copy anyone, but I think my point still gets across. If this dude really wants more viewers and for people to like him, MAKE BETTER CONTENT! And if you truly believe your content is the best it could be, maybe people don't not like the content maybe they just don't like you. Idk I don't think people copying ideas is stealing anyone's content, stealing content is reuploading the same video without the creators permission. I will say I think it's scummy to copy someone's ideas every video, but that's about it. I don't think it's wrong, I don't think he needs to apologize or anything, but it can be scummy. But I mean again, if he's making the content first people should be watching his no? Maybe make your videos better or more enjoyable, or change the way you act to be more appealing to people. All video content creation is a rat race, and whoever is the nicest rat is who most people will support, even if another rat is faster. I have people I've been watching for over 10 years, I'm sure theyve taken video ideas from other people but I don't care, they're funny n I like watching them the most. Doesn't matter if someone else did the same thing first if I don't like their video/content or the person themselves. Even if they're just mediocre or decent I'll still watch the person I like

@@Kratos-eg7ez ​ It sounds like you are telling the person getting robbed to just "do better" so that the thief does less damage to them. Why not condemn the thief? If MrGM is truly copying his content as you said and not crediting Moudi for his days of work, Moudi is the victim here. Additionally, what is the point of Moudi making better content if it only serves to benefit the person stealing from him? Just because someone is funny does not mean their actions are justified, especially when these actions harm others for their own benefit.

​@@johnwarner4178not true, often it can be because it's not just about the money but that it's past that point. It's about more than just the money now, meaning it's to the point where it's not just about the money anymore.