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You know you’ve been watching too many videos on this channel when you hear that silly horn noise when he mentions that a cruise ship had joined the hunt, and all you can think about is a massive cruise ship packed to the rafters with clones of Kaldor Draigo, all of them shouting with one voice “ORDO DRAIGO PRESENT! WE WILL PROVIDE THE HAMS!!!!!”
The Hood wasn't sunk via plunging fire like everyone thought; the ships were *FAR* too close. I recommend Drachinifel's video on the sinking of the Hood.
16:57 it is not singled out, all polish navy WWII ships are remembered and many names are used Błyskawica is by far more remembered, it is the only ship to recieve the Order of Virtuti Militari, the highest polish military distinction
In World War Two, destroyers lived by the motto "Live fast, die young, and take as many enemies with you as possible." I'm new to the channel, so I don't know if you already reviewed it, but Drachinifel's video on the Battle off Samar is a great summary of the ur-example of this, but Piorun's exploits against Bismarck are a close second.
But here’s the thing USS Johnston didn’t live to tell the tale, was not alone just in the lead and Yamato was a piece of shit. Piorun lived against Bismarck which while not the invincible death machine wehraboos say it was, was a far superior design to hotel Yamato. And Piorun had a very successful career after Bismarck. That’s why I think Piorun’s story is better.
@@jdog345 ...if you think that Bismarck was a better battleship than Yamato, I'm afraid you've been drinking the wehraboo kool-aid too. Bismarck was the best World War *One* battleship ever to put to sea, whereas Yams was a good-but-not-great World War Two design. Basically, thanks to the Treaty of Versailles bringing German battleship design to a screeching halt after WW1, Bismarck was about 20-25 years behind the times, while Yamato was a modern design (maybe two years behind the latest and greatest from the US) that made up for the faults in its design with sheer mass. Piorun and the escorts of Taffy 3 both have great stories to tell, and I don't know how any of them stayed afloat supporting such massive balls, but let's not forget that A) Bismarck was, honestly, the inferior ship in a comparison with Yamato, and 2) even if you disagree with the first point, there were, y'know, three other capital ships (Nagato, Kongo, Haruna) and a whole bunch of cruisers present at Samar, any of which could have wrecked the Taffies' shit with a single shot, so...
@@rdfox76 No Yamato was a big slow hulking target with guns prone to malfunctioning and in even more shoddy radar rangefinder, that was somehow even less sustainable design for the IJN than Bismarck was for Kriegsmarine. Not to mention she was commanded by an idiot who sabotaged any mission she was attached to be requesting far more support than she needed leaving other sections vulnerable, took way to long to stop using AP against Johnston, which is the only reason she lasted as long as she did, and ran from any fight that she might get hurt in, although that last one was more high commands fear of losing her than the actual crew. I’m not saying Bismarck was a great ship, I’m saying Yamato was worse.
10:54 I'm pretty sure, on top of average damage, the Prince of Wales took a shell that went through the deck above the bridge, without exploding, and killed everyone in it(the deck above the bridge that is).
A point of contention: The HMS Hood was a Battle(Cruiser), not a battleship. She was not as heavily armored as a proper battleship, along with a few other tradeoffs. The British preferred their battlecruisers that way. You'd think they would have learned from Jutland. That being said, every ship had wood plating over their weatherdecks. Even the Iowas. Mostly because good weatherized coatings with grippy-grippy hadn't been invented yet. But yes, you are right in that the main deck armor was not made for plungey-plungey fire and Hood had the kind of Bad Day that will be remembered for a very long time to come. The whole renaming thing is kind of a naval tradition all around from what I understand. The practical reason is that in the Bad Old Days a ship's name was the ship's rep. If you knew the name, you knew what kind of a reputation a ship had. Renaming a ship was generally to try and hide what a ship had done. You know, trying to avoid letting people know that a ship was a deathtrap, or insurance fraud, or that you'd stolen the damn thing and the original owners were gonna show up to sink her. In mythological terms... sort of a similar thing to 40k (probably inspired them). Names have power. Use them wisely. A ship was enrolled in the ledgers of the gods of the sea, and changing the name was trying to hide it from the gods. Always a bad idea to invoke actual Hubris. Yes. Lazor-Pig does a spoof cover of a topical song for every video. And I do mean EVERY. Video.
Hood was weird. By British designation she was a battlecruiser but by statistics she could be argued to be the first fast battleship. The preceding Queen Elizabeth class battleships’ armour was broadly similar to Hood’s protection, including the much maligned deck armour. So Hood was just as armoured as a ‘proper’ battleship. And at the distances they fighting at plunging fire is unlikely to say the least. In fact it’s so unlikely that even the Germans didn’t bother calculating armour penetration due to plunging fire at those distances since they figured it was impossible.
Part of it was also due to advances in shells; as built, the Hood was well-protected against the sort of shells that the Hochseeflotte and the Reichsmarine had used, where the detonators were mounted in the nose of the shell, and had a contact fuse- by contrast, the shells the Bismarck had were heavier, used detonators that had timed fuses, and were set in the base of the shells; so when those shells hit the Hood, the armour plating that would have been more than adequate to defeat the older shells merely armed the timers on the heavy shells, which brute forced through the armour layers and set the fatal fire in the 4-inchers' magazine.
They did learn from Jutland. Hood had comparable deck armour to full fledged battleships of the same era. (Nvm that most of the ships that detonated at Jutland where already obsolete and had never been intended to fight in the main line of battle but hey, I know facts are difficult)
Wrong. No shot from Bismarck penetrated the deck of Hood. And they had a STEEL armored deck. To say it was wood is just wrong on so many levels. At the ranges she and Bismarck were trading shots, it would have been too close for any shot to penetrate the deck as none of Bismarck's shells exceeded 11 degrees when it hit. Hood had more than 3 inches of deck armor so for the situation she found herself in she had plenty of deck armor. And the location where the shell hit, at 11 degrees, it would have gone NO WHERE NEAR the deck. It would have trashed the admiral's cabin and come out the other side and into the sea. There was a splash in that side opposite Bismarck. For it to have hit there it would have had to pass through the Admiral's cabin. What killed the Hood was a hit to the SIDE, below the belt armor as when Hood was at speed, it created a trough in the general area, so without water there to activate the fuse, it had a path into the ship under the armor. People need to stop with this deck armor being too thin nonsense. They were too close and the German's own ginnery charts for the guns show that it would have been IMPOSSIBLE for the shell to penetrate Hood's deck.
8:30 there was no 'free polish navy', there was only a polish navy. It isn't France, where there were 'free french' and other forces, there were just polish forces, there is no other 'polish navy' at that time to distinguish it from, it was literally the polish navy evacuated to birtain There wasn't 'vichy poland'
Ok guys i need your help. I cant find anything about the cruise ship that helped sink the Bismarck. Does anybody know what was its name? I really wanna know more about this
I haven't been able to find the exact ship, but it was being escorted by one of the vessels sent to hunt the Bismarck and the Captain decided that instead of being left alone they would follow along. I haven't been able to find out which one though.
14:10 likely apocryphal. There are contradictory stories and it is incredibly stupid that the conceit of this video became a partly legendary account That as opposed to say the ORP Błyskawica, a Polish Navy ship from before the war that went on to be the oldest destroyer museum ship in the world
Now that was ORP Piorun (The Thunderbolt). A humble destroyer. Now, Poland is to buy three new Swordfish-class frigattes. And their names are allegedly already decided: - ORP Burza (The Storm), - ORP Wicher (The Gale), - ORP Huragan (The Hurricane). Russian warships are certainly getting very nervous in the coming years. If one Polish destroyer could do THIS to Bismarck - think what three Polish frigates will do to the Russians. I mean Ukrainians ahev already sunk The Moskva, proud Russian heavy cruiser - and they don't even have any Navy to speak of...
Well Polish Orp Grom was sunked by German HE-111 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORP_Grom_(1936) That why the english goverment Give to Polish HMS Nerissa reneme To Orp Piorun. BTW Piorun actually mean Lightnig Grom it Thunderbold.
Dude. The channel isn’t named The old man. It’s called Old Man REACTS. If your that opposed to the biggest trend in RU-vid videos of the past 10 years, why in the hell were you watching a dedicated reaction channel instead of the original content in the first place?
Also the original has 280k views and this reaction only has 1.6k and I will bet that most of those views saw the original first so it’s not really a big deal
