I would be tempted to put a handle on it and use it for one, but the thing sounds so gross I fear it would probably give me lead and cadmium poisoning if used near food.
@@Peytonthefeyton The steel cymbal had an interesting sound that would work well in a song designed to make use of it, like an industrial track of some kind maybe. The disk of sadness just sounds plain bad.
"Oh, you want to go to Australia? What do you want to go and do there? See the grand opera house? See the beaches and great barrier reef? Maybe go see Ayers/Uluru Rock?" "No. I want to go to Cashies!" (Confused stare ensues)
@@blakksheep736 Metallica album where they used a ridiculous sounding snare for the whole thing. Check out the Todd in the Shadows video on it, he covers it well.
You'd better make that video about why cymbals are so expensive cuz I'm very curious. 600 bucks for a thin piece of bronze seems outrageous to the layman (me).
One thing is they need to be hammered a specific way to get a specific sound. And a lot of them are hand made. But yea 600 seems like a crap ton of money
Well if you're not a drummer it would be impossible to explain but to some drummers, their quest for the perfect cymbals never ends. It's satisfied for a few years or maybe even a decade but it never ends. When you become familiar with what cymbals (can) do, you ARE often willing to pay big bucks for them. Lucky for me Im just beginning a decade of satisfaction with 5 crashes, 2 rides, 2 chinas and 2 sets of hats. Most I've paid was about $500 for a Pastie ride which I turnt around and sold a year later.
@@FNordstal yep. It started out as a partnership with the US brand but has been unaffiliated since 1994 and is effectively now a totally different store with a different logo, but the same name. These days they mainly sell clothes that are annoyingly ok for how cheap they are and utter woeful copies of whatever small household items are currently popular at Ikea. Oddly we also have "Target", with very similar stores, stock and logo but absolutely no relation to Target Corporation of America.
@@FNordstal We also have "Hungry Jack's" with the Burger King logo, because there was already a completely separate "Burger King" operating in Adelaide when they tried to expand operations into Australia. Burger King America tried to end-around the local franchise holder and start opening it's own BK stores here but ultimately lost in court and left the market. All of those BKs (that are still open) were rebranded to HJ's.
I let out an actual unintentional, uncontrolled chuckle at the Stagg Jazz Ride. Just the transition from "Jazz Ride mate? It better sound swingin'" to the bright, tinny crash had me rolling.
they'd probably sound a lot "better" if they were processed. unprocessed drum recordings sound a whole lot different than what you'd hear on, say, a modern rock record
I've found some of my best buys value-wise at local music shops, usually the kind run by An Old Dude who loves swapping Old Gear. Sometimes you get lucky and find killer stuff from 10+ years ago with prices to match. Got a half decent little 5 pc kit jam kit for like 500USD like this recently. A pearl forum set with nice snare, some zildjian hats, a cheapo sabian crash and a decent stagg ride. Nothing that'll impress anyone, but good enough to play.
@@missbelled6700 Some of the best cymbals in my collection I've found..believe it or not..out in people's trash out by the road. Like some Zildjians and old hand-hammered Zenjian cymbals. Or with used drum kits I've purchased at pennies for the dollar over new cymbals. One of my best hi-hat sets I purchased a couple of years ago for the grand sum of $65.00 US made by a local guy who 'repurposes' and refinishes old or damaged cymbals into playable instruments. I've only bought four cymbals at full retail price over the years: a couple of Sabian B8 Pro china splashes, a Zildjian 14" A thin crash, and the most expensive cymbal in my collection: a Meinl 22" Vintage Pure Light Ride. The rest have come second hand via music store finds, from private sellers or free out by the road.
Remind your son that high-end drums are professional equipment, designed for (and priced for) actual touring bands that make money with their gear. If I were you I'd tell him that I'd happily buy him the pro stuff once he starts getting paid gigs
@@m.f.3347 Haha, I did but he's 11 and doesn't really understand how expensive things can be. He's not selfish or greedy...just dumb. His mom almost passed out when I told her the estimated value of the kit he wanted. Lol
This man's talent is just of the charts. I could imagine other parts of a jazz band starting to fill in the background as he demos the cymbals. Im not a musician, but I know more about how cymbals should sounds just thanks to Dank here
@@bkebradley Maybe youll have one in future. For goregrind, i'll choose this cymbals: RIDE: Stagg DH 20" Jazz ride. It sounds GOREY. Crashes: Paiste PST3 16" (i have it, ieven have the ride and the hi hat of the same series LOL) and Zultan F5 18" crash Splash: That peace cymbal HiHat: every Paiste. China: a random one Edit: the shell set doesn't count if its dirt cheap, for example Mapex Tornado, or expensive as a Fazioli, example DW Regal Satin, if you have nice heads, you can use even a kids drum set from the Man Behind the Slaugter era
I have no especial interest in drums specifically, but the amount this guy knows and the absolute glee with which he speaks about them has gotten my sub.
In high school band we had a cymbal almost identical to that Peace one. We ended up needing a China cymbal for a particular song so we ordered a nice Sabian one. It took a really long time to arrive, so we modified the cheap horrible cymbal into a "China" by bending upwards and punching dents in it with a hammer. Somehow that made it sound better.
speaking of stagg, i went to a local music store looking for hi hats and found a 40 dollar brass stagg CX crash that had my second favorite crash sound in the entire store, only losing to a k custom. Stagg is one of the cymbal manufacturers of all time, and when they shart out a random gem it's all the more special.
I actually like the Schalloch. It definitely doesn't sustain at all, and it's a tad small sounding, but I think it could fit perfectly in some really fast paced rhythms where the crash either just gets hammered or is used as a ride.
For my ear that jazz ride actually sounded great. I'm not really much a fan of dark cymbals so I liked it's higher sound. And as soon as you played it in a swing groove it was like "yup, this is FOR jazz."
Nowadays, that's nothing. It used to be impressive before when RU-vid only had millions of users. Now it has 2.6 billion users. 25% of the world's population.
The loud, enthusiatic Aussie man gets me to care about literally anything EDIT: 4:06 reminds me a bit of the opening drum passage in "Black Noise" by FM, I don't expect anybody to know what I'm talking about but it amuses me
That PDP green MX is a sleeper. Same shells as early DW collectors post Keller. If its a good price, its worth going back to snag. Sounds great under mics.
My very first drumset as a kid was of the Peace brand and, yes, it was terrible. Seeing that cymbal brought back many memories of me having to turn the cymbals back from being inside out and eventually just sticking with them being sort of china-shaped from the beatings I gave them. Good times.
The Zildjian K Custom Dark Ride basically is what cymbal.wav should sound like while some of the others sound like hitting actual scrap metal with a drum stick.
I love seeing how wibbly cymbals are! They sound great too, but I was wondering if you ever tried doing slow motion video at various cymbals? Just a thought, I'd love to see, but I don't know how to look up things of interesting on RU-vid, so you're really my only hope of ever seeing such a thing happen, thank you 🙌🙌
I had a 10" stagg splash and a 16" stagg crash and they were some of my favorite cymbals while I had them. Got both for $50 brand new. Guess I got lucky. Although they both cracked so much that they were unplayable after about 5 years 😂
Not a drummer but my local cashies is where I picked up £200 worth of squier strat for £50 which is perfect for me to learn guitar on. it needed some light repairs and a setup but nothing I couldn't learn from youtube tutorials
The Shalloch may have its place in a track, but not in a rhythm. That YR Stagg is great for jazz, the other one... maybe Gene Krupa. The Marathons would be lovely for studio! The Peace should be given to a melt-down RU-vid channel.
The Cashies song Oh, I found it at Cashies, mate Where you can find your dreams They've got wares and chairs and a bug dowstairs Some clubs, some tubs, and hats for scrubs And out of date movies So get on down to Cashies, mate You know it'll change your life So get off the floor, head out the door Forget eBay, they'll charge you more And lose vour life at Cashies
I know nothing about music, I was a bio major so music was as far from my mind as possible without being a new concept..... that PEACE cymbal sounded pathetic. I actually burst out laughing when you hit it. And then I genuinely felt bad. like I was laughing at a crippled kid. I did not know musical instruments could inspire pity in me.
Never thought I'd hear that weird bendy metal sound on something that isn't bendy metal, but that Peace cymbal proved me wrong. It sounds like it's made of tinfoil dear Lord.
My high school had a drum set with a full set of Paiste RUDE cymbals. I hate those things haha. The crashes were okay but the ride was gross and the high hat’s are not very pleasing.
I feel like that first one could sound nice as a stack splash, i quite like those dusty high pitch sounds. I have a cheap splash that could work quite well stacked with that one.
@@yugidude1There are Zildjian Scimitar Bronzes, and those are made of B8. The one I have and use is made of brass, and I really like it. Has lasted me years of hard playing, and several years in my church
