Bro! Your content is second to none! You are one of only a few content providers that spend time reviewing the on-board audio for MB's. Too many reviewers overlook that aspect. Appreciate all you do! Great content BTW!
I didn't even know Soyo still existed! I remember doing one build with a Soyo board way back in the day. I think I didn't have any problems with it, but it was so long ago I can't be sure. I remember back when we had about a dozen mobo makers. I have one of the infamous Abit boards with the awful chinese caps that leaked like crazy. Did a few Biostar builds too. Even recall having an ECS based system. I thought the only ones left now were Asrock, Asus, MSI, and Gigabyte.
many of those, like Biostar, ECS elitegroup, Supermicro, are still good and kicking today, they're just not popular, specially for reviews. HOWEVER, this soyo is not the same of yore, is just a Chinese product with the old brand name attached to it.
Back in the day, we used to have so much more motherboard manufacturers. However I only miss good company like DFI . Not the rest of them which have disappeared from the market.
2000's Soyo no longer exist, Maxsum re brand their mobos with Soyo logo for take advantage of their heritage. Biostar still existing, an their actual mobos have a very crap VRM, causing power throttling even with low power CPU like Ryzen 5600.
7:37 For that upcoming PCI-E 4090 test, a suggestion, consider using a 5800x3D as the "high end" CPU. There may be a number of people with B450 (X470) boards (limited to PCI-E 3.0) considering upgrading to a 5800X3D and a newer GPU.
I did that, B450 Tomahawk MAX, 5800X3D and 4090 with 32GB 3866 DDR4. CPU undervolted a tiny bit and the memory is tuned for better timings. Just the memory timings tightening got me 5-8% more fps.
For all the Preppers, Why spend serious $$ on burying a Top Shelf motherboard in a faraday cage under the garage that you hope you'll never use. Wrap this baby up and you know its basic, but works.
Galax is also making B550m and X570m, i kinda curious about their quality cause those motherboard prices are really affordable. I wish you could review that for the next video ;)
Soyo never died. They just could NOT sell outside Asia anymore. They are only found in most of Asia, as well as Russia nowadays - they were one of the companies that got bitten by the huge capacitor fiasco that killed ABIT and probably made DFI exit the consumer market as well. Glad to see they still maintain a pint of overclock ability in their BIOSes.
true, soyo is currently under kyo group (together with sama, kaizen, etc). in my country (indonesia) the brand is known as kaizen, they are cheap af and pretty popular here. they sell $50 for A520 board with 3 years warranty.
Kind of.. The original Soyo Group ceased in 2009. Shangke Group (parent of Maxsun) bought the name and brought all physical assets left and part of Soyo staff from Taiwan to Shenzen. It seems KYO rebrands Soyo and Maxsun stuff as like it was done while the original Soyo Group was around. Btw. A preproduction model of this Soyo B550M motherboard was the first B550 board that was leaked over 3 years ago.
Man, I miss DFI. They were inexpensive, no frills, built for speed motherboards. I had a power supply pop and kill my X38 LanParty, but I've still got a functioning P35 BloodIron time capsule PC.
I bought this mobo for ~75$ in the summer. The only downside of it is that it's rather small and components are close together, difficult to fit tower cooler with the ram and gpu is pretty close to cpu as well. Bios is pretty good, vrm is decent, sata ports are well placed
@@adrianvasquez9935 i had some conflicts using older system installed before when i switched to this mb. I think it was a conflict between mbr and gpt disk structure. I made clean install with modern one and had no issues after. I think i used rufus to make one mbr and one gpt installation usb drive
Been running one of these since August last year. Only downsides, are the no amd overclocking/pbo options in the bios (you can use ryzen master for pbo + cuver optimizer, like I do), and that the pwm fans don't really work. You have 2 4 pins, but they go to 100% always. You can use something like argus monitor, or fan control to control them tho, which is what I do, so it's mostly fine, I bought it knowing about this, so it's whatever.
It's absurd that a dying platform have gone up in price. Since I bought my B550-motherboard for 499 swedish kronor they're now around 1000 kr. Even that scetchy aliexpress ones. So twice the price even though it's the end of the road in terms of upcoming cpu-releases. I think I'd rather just pay more to get newer stuff with DDR5 support. If the AM4 platform was half the price I would still consider it though.
I see prices coming down now. I think it was due to the high entry cost of AM5. So most people went for Am4. Motherboard prices 9n the used marked went up as well
In the Philippines by comparison, I've never seen B550 mobo prices drop since release and even now (mostly saw ones in the $150-200 range for B550M mobos), and any discounts I may have missed are few and far between -- whereas CPU prices have dropped. Only the Asrock Pro 4 was the choice I accepted as I needed to replace my B450 mobo due to unfortunate USB port issues.. and even then at $120 it was still slightly higher than B450 mobos that are still around, and those older B450 mobos have not dropped further in price either. I know the global economy is still impacting prices to some extent, but it's unfortunate that mobos for now-finished platforms have not dropped considering older CPUs and GPUs have been lower for some time now particularly with AMD as well
@@b1ini In sweden the A520 motherboards now cost as much as the cheapest B550 motherboards. With shipping all are about 1000 sek (around 100 USD). And for that price you can get a LGA 1700 motherboard. Even a Z790 during certain sales and such. Sure the cpus are more expensive but I think it's time to abandon the AM4 platform. At least for new builds. I'm on a B550 and 5600X. It's good enough until I can get a good price on a AM5 cpu. I got a 770 USD AM5 mobo for 3 USD a few months ago. The reseller accidentally put the wrong price up for a few minutes and I was fast enough to order one. And they discovered the mistake to late so I actually got it shipped lol.
It is nice to see that Maxsun continued Soyo's iconic dragon imagery and classic Soyo S logo. Soyo always thrived to produce quality products with great price to performance ratios. Back in the early 2000s Pentium 3 and Pentium 4 days Soyo products cost half the price of competing Abit, DFI, and Asus motherboards.This reminds me of what AMD did after they acquired the Canadian ATi graphics manufacturer. AMD continued the Radeon name and classic ATi product design.
Awesome value in today's market. Back in 2020 I bought a cheap ASRock B450M Pro4 for 39€ including shipping. That was awesome for it's price. I love the memory presets for overclocking on this one. That makes things easier for normal users to set a overclock on the memory.
I decided to replace one of my PCs at my other place with a new one to have some modern gaming capabilities + ability to stick RTX 3xxx cards in the future etc. I chose Ryzen 5 5600 as my CPU, and was looking for a b550m motherboard on Aliexpress. I was looking for a budjet option since i already have a good PC and don't want to spend too much on another one. Almost bought a b450m Asus TUF motherboard, but i noticed this a lot cheaper model and it's a B550M for 80 bucks. I was confused, thought it was some kind of a scam or something. But reviews and feedback on this say otherwise, this seems to work completely fine. There is just no other vialable option for a B550M solution other than paying 140+ dollars for more well known motherboards from ASUS etc. So i ordered this one and it's nice to know it is decent for my purposes (gaming)
I have the maxsun version of this one which comes with a steel pcie conector, rock solid motherboard I use it for testing gpus that I repair paired with a 5600 and 32gb ram @3600, never got any funky issues with it
"Based?" Try genocidal, brother. That is not the kind of person you want having lots of computing firepower. Based would be if TYC censored it by saying "someone with a very antisemitic nickname, who I've since banned" and banned them.
The hardware is the same as Maxsun B550M Terminator, although the BIOS is a little bit different. I am using the Maxsun B550M Terminator with R5 3600 OC 4200MHz.
@@raymondxiao9121 people say it doesn't have hibernation but it's not that important for me. Others say bios settings reset after each PC power on, and with newer bios versions some problems occur. It costs not much and i may try it with r5 5500 or r5 5600.
@@BillyPage1337 I didn't encouter the BIOS reset issue. It does not have complete PBO2, but I don't use it. It's not my main desktop. For daily use PC, I personally recommend ASUS.
How would the Soyo board compare to the Asrock B550M Pro 4 ? I can get the Asrock board locally for only A$10 more than the Aliexpress Soyo prices, so much quicker delivery :) Do you know if the audio is better on the Asrock Pro? It says it has Nahimic Audio, but that's just software isn't it?
Audio would be better on the asrock board. That's from personal testing, the VRM on the soyo would be quite similar. It's actually great for an aliexpress board.
PSA. When buying the board, inform the seller to update the bios for you. I received one with ancient bios and after I updated the bios, there were issues with rom not writing etc. asked the seller why it was not updated with latest bios (or at least a newer bios) before shipping as stated in their advert, but the seller responded that the buyer must informed them directly for the update. I had my soyo board reflashed by an expert and now it's ok.
i just bought one for a ryzen 5500 and a nvidia rtx 3060 12gb setup, im a little broke and here in my country thats the pieces that are more affordable, do you guys think it will work out fine?
Yeah tottaly! It actually worked very well, im rendering and playing the way i expected to, but i didnt imported the motherboard directly from China i just got from some local resellers, very good piece of hardware btw
@@gmh50o26 oh actually i admit that I had a small logistical issue with the inputs of the motherboard but nothing too serious, the RTX3060 is a large videoboard with two fans and it covered the only input for RGB leds, so no bright collors innit haha and also covered one of the inputs for USB 3.0 (However, this is not the only, there is another one above). Other than that, no problems, i think it can be solved with some adapters btw
@@gmh50o26 i didnt have a problem with that, my bios was in english, Its a modern bios i think bc it recognized all the pieces right away, i didnt need to touch it too much
Nice review. I am from Nigeria and the dollar to Naira rate is really killing (very bad) due to this I intend building a gaming PC with SOYO products. PLEASE CAN U RECOMMEND A CASING THAT FITS WELL WITH SOYO MOTHERS BOARDS? CAN ANY GPU FIT IN THIS MOTHER BOARD? Please HELP
Thought-provoking video, Bryan, as ever. I followed your recommendation about the Soyo B660M so am very tempted by this one. My only reservation about these boards is that buyers in the UK have become wary about what they perceive as 'no-name' boards and components and make their buying decisions accordingly.
That Soyo is made by Maxsun, I've sold a few of these and they are alright! On the cheap side, but ok! They are sold as OEM motherboards here in Portugal with an unbranded BIOS, but flash it with the Soyo BIOS and working!
Cheap and cheerful. I find ive done better with the Soyo mobos than the lower end asrock mobos. They feel more solid than some of the other cheap mobos.
Seriously, the 4090 is a 4k card. Sure, you'd lose a FEW frames, but why not keep it even cheaper and throw like a 5700x in there? Even the 5800X3D is kinda extra.
Uhm, PBO included? That's like the most important thing on am4. PBO on CPU setting with voltage curve -30 is king. Way better performance on still default powerdraw
my B550 MSI AMD wasent the cheapest cost me $500 Aust with the ddr5 and CPU wasent cheap all up $1300 and using old cheap RX 550 GPU its old but works ok only a 4 gig one
Those people you are advertising for windows keys are horrible and make it extremely difficult to fix window keys that are invalid I ended up paying full price threw Microsoft I was just stressed out but down an extra $21 because I trusted that link
I bought the maxsun terminator b550m motherboard pairing it with r5 5600 is such a good value, great company maxsun had it for 5 months now now problems, recommend it
I must not have tuned in for a while, I had no idea you were in Japan, lol I think we’re in something of a golden age for cheap boards. A lot of what goes into them is components purchased from big companies, like the audio and networking and PCIe controllers, which are all “fine” generally at the very least. So as long as the PCB designs aren’t total garbage and the UEFI is decent, it’s a lot easier to make an OK board
I have the Maxsun version of that board, it is working well with an r5 5600 and rx 5700xt. I had to add a pwm fan hub though due to its shortage of pwm headers but that only cost me an extra 7 dollars so no big deal.
I actually recapped an old soyo board recently. Soyo was a big part of my childhood, and was the thing that let me get into the tech space in the first place! I should get a new one someday
Nice in-depth review of a budget Pc component? Hell yeah! Thanks as always for the great content! Budget PC building is always so fun and is as relevant as ever rn. Specially loved the onboard feature tests, not many reviewers go that far.
fun fact: that board fits in the jonsbo c2 AND you can pair it with one of the MLLSE/51risc rx 6600 cards which ALSO fit in that case -- banger of an itx system
Great video. I already bought this one, however i've just realized that the Dual Channel "mode" is not detected whenv alidating it in CPU-Z. Any clue here (i've bought 2 killsre RAMS at 3200 mhx)? Thanks in advance!
Yo TYC, uh... that endcap questioner person's nick was just a bevy of antisemitic tropes. I laughed in an "I'm in danger" kind of way and I'm not even Jewish. "6 gorillion" refers to (and doubts) the death toll of ha-Shoah (literally "the tragedy" - the Holocaust) - which is generally held to be at least 6 million Jews alone. "Shekel Swindler" refers to the traditional currency of pre-diaspora Jews, and of the modern settler-colonial state of Israel (the shekel), and to the antisemitic stereotype that Jews are somehow inherently scammy. It's like calling Americans or Australians dollar swindlers. Shlomo is a stereotypical Hebrew-origin Jewish name and surname. It comes from "shalom", which is cognate to Arabic "salam" - among other meanings, a greeting. I don't know what it means beyond that so I cannot tell you what "shlomo" then means.
