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I Bought The CHEAPEST and MOST EXPENSIVE Wooden Snare Drum on Amazon 

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_______________ I Bought The CHEAPEST and MOST EXPENSIVE Wooden Snare Drum on Amazon
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As a drum teacher, one of the biggest drum related questions I get asked is about the cost of certain drums. Are expensive drums BETTER? Will cheaper drums work just as well? What defines a "better" sounding drum? For this video, I bought the cheapest 5.5" wooden snare drum and the most expensive 5.5" wooden snare drum on Amazon. An epic snare drum shoot out.
Leave a comment below and let me know your favorite drum!
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Cymbal Setup From Left To Right:
All Zildjian
Hats:
14" Zildjian Cluster HiHat Prototype Cymbals
Drums:
Tama Starclassic Bubinga with Tiger Wood finish
Sticks:
Vic Firth 5A
Drumheads:
Aquarian
Classic Clear on toms and snare resonant
Response 2 on toms batter
Hi-Velocity on snare batter
Regularor (Ebony) on kick resonant
Super Kick 10 on kick batter
Alclair In Ear Monitors
Earthworks Microphones

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@StephenTaylorDrums
@StephenTaylorDrums 3 года назад
Subscribe or I'll steal your snare drum: bit.ly/2AyH1Fb As a drum teacher, one of the biggest drum related questions I get asked is about the cost of certain drums. Are expensive drums BETTER? Will cheaper drums work just as well? What defines a "better" sounding drum? For this video, I bought the cheapest 5.5" snare drum and the most expensive 5.5" snare on Amazon. An epic snare drum shoot out. Leave a comment below and let me know which snare you like the best!
@fishingloverfish7984
@fishingloverfish7984 3 года назад
Love the vids
@StephenTaylorDrums
@StephenTaylorDrums 3 года назад
@@fishingloverfish7984 Thanks!
@richardstewart8716
@richardstewart8716 3 года назад
I always make time for education, thank you.
@ab_ab_c
@ab_ab_c 3 года назад
Honestly, I liked the sound of the cheaper snare drum better. Maybe fitting it with better hardware would improve it's range for less $ (if a person wanted that). The more expensive drum sounded like a snare + a bit of cow bell sound mixed into it. Not that appealing, imo. Just my $0.02
@StuPedassol
@StuPedassol 3 года назад
That's crazy that even the ludwig snare doesn't come with better rattlers on it or skins... You think for 759 it would be top of the line.
@rdavidr
@rdavidr 3 года назад
Bruh, if you send me the $20 snare and $400 Ill make you a snare that'll sound like its worth $30.
@StephenTaylorDrums
@StephenTaylorDrums 3 года назад
Overnighting rn
@DrummerGrrrl
@DrummerGrrrl 3 года назад
Hahahahaha.
@JailDoctor1
@JailDoctor1 3 года назад
Watched both of your videos. Love 💘 it. I play drums but I'd rather play with drums. JLDR
@classixdrummer
@classixdrummer 3 года назад
The beard is strong with this one.
@clayevans2472
@clayevans2472 3 года назад
When two channels you sub to cross paths
@472zothansangachawngthu7
@472zothansangachawngthu7 3 года назад
Snare drum:Please i have a wife and three toms
@musamnguni510
@musamnguni510 3 года назад
😂
@1lonnieabbott1
@1lonnieabbott1 3 года назад
One of the things I have told my students over the years is that great cymbals and heads will usually make a cheap drum set sound great, but cheap cymbals and heads will usually make a great drum set sound cheap.
@magedzaki9637
@magedzaki9637 3 года назад
I totally agree
@Wootsickles
@Wootsickles 3 года назад
Not sure why I thought of this. I figure it's the same with power tools. You can buy the most high end table saw out there. If you use cheap blades and bad guides/accessories your cuts will still suffer.
@Mariusss100.
@Mariusss100. Год назад
Also, a bat drummer will usually make a great drum set sound cheap :))
@Solar.Geoengineering.Advocate
@Solar.Geoengineering.Advocate 7 месяцев назад
or to put it another way expensive drumkits aint worth it
@Chudhole
@Chudhole 3 года назад
I preferred the cheap snare especially in the mix.
@7echnoid
@7echnoid 3 года назад
Yep was just about to comment the same. Liked that sound a lot more!
@misterknightowlandco
@misterknightowlandco 3 года назад
Me too
@jordanblue5630
@jordanblue5630 3 года назад
wow, that don't sound like an $800 Ludwig snare to me. I'm betting a $100 Acrolite can blow that snare away on any day.
@nevenvarljen6694
@nevenvarljen6694 3 года назад
One of the worst expensive snares that i've heard was this one
@beatleszilla
@beatleszilla 3 года назад
@@nevenvarljen6694 seemed to work for The Beatles
@ErickC
@ErickC 3 года назад
Absolutely! The Acrolite is an amazing all-around value because they're relatively cheap and the only way to make them sound bad is if you try *really hard.*
@garysmith3173
@garysmith3173 3 года назад
Wow I’d love to find $100 Acrolite. In the uk a new 14x6 would cost £500-£600! Vintage ones are the same price range!
@maciekomis
@maciekomis 3 года назад
@@garysmith3173 14x6 were uncommon and always expensive. i don't think there even are vintage 6s. my 2 acrolites were quite cheap. less than $200 with shipping from US to europe. but that was about 10 years ago.
@kg_drums
@kg_drums 3 года назад
I just bought a 70’s Acrolite and I had the SAME thought about the dampener! Being able to change the character of the drum on the fly without having to put sticky stuff on the batter head is one of my favorite things about it
@musshwins412
@musshwins412 3 года назад
I just bought a Gretsch Brooklyn standard snare. It has a huge dampener and it dampens perfectly. It reminds me of the old Slingerland RadioKing. My 1968 Ludwig LM400 rings like a metal snare should, but im loving this wooden Gretsch.
@K50ATTACK
@K50ATTACK 3 года назад
I’ve gotta 6x5 late 70’s pearl jupiter and internal damping thing is awesome for sure.
@jonhayesofficial
@jonhayesofficial 2 года назад
wow. at first I hated the cheap drum but with the head change, I actually consistently like the cheaper one in every test. The expensive one had too much resonance that I didn't like
@arsonne
@arsonne 3 года назад
I would be pretty disappointed with that 800$ snare even when you made it sound good for what it can do.
@benjaminprietop
@benjaminprietop 3 года назад
I loved both, actually. But the high tuning on the expensive snare made it sound a little bit too "St.Anger-y" for my taste.
@ess8057
@ess8057 3 года назад
This video has made me realise that my snare sounds like shit
@Joshstix95
@Joshstix95 3 года назад
Just tune the bottom head really tight (like really tight) tune the top head to your preference ... problem solved
@K50ATTACK
@K50ATTACK 3 года назад
Get a tension watch measure thing. Match the batter head with the snare head numbers wise, a little gel. And you’re set. But seriously, get a drum meter of some sort. I got the tama like 6 years ago. Can’t be beaten.
@mickschnabel
@mickschnabel 3 года назад
@@Joshstix95 I've actually had the bottom head blow out before due to doing that, however it did sound good prior to that happening
@Joshstix95
@Joshstix95 3 года назад
@@mickschnabel yeah I do that all the time . I noticed remo hazyz last longer then any other brand tuning wise ... I busted my evans lastweek hahaha
@bojanglesobrien6883
@bojanglesobrien6883 3 года назад
@@mickschnabel it was all good til it wasn't 😆
@BrandonGrieve
@BrandonGrieve 3 года назад
Not gonna lie, I actually prefer the tone of the cheap snare overall. It's meatier. I don't like the ring that comes out of the expensive snare. I think I'd be a little pissed if I had paid $800 for that snare.
@jonset7
@jonset7 3 года назад
I agree. Overall , the cheap one sounds thicker, at least to my ears. The cheap snare’s sound/tone fits in better with the vibe of the song being played in the video. When used in the context of another song with a different vibe, the Ludwig may sound better in the mix.
@PJBonoVox
@PJBonoVox 3 года назад
Yeah, same. Honestly I didn't like either snare all told, but the cheaper share had something closer to what I like.
@bebop425
@bebop425 3 года назад
That ring was a little annoying after a bit, agree. I might use it in one song, but not general use
@austinshoupe3003
@austinshoupe3003 3 года назад
Poplar is a great recording wood. Very punchy and thick sounding. Just not that loud. There's also the quirks of ludwig's hardware and the rather niche design of the Ludwig shell. There was no way the same heads and tuning were going to work for equally well for both.
@FreeScience
@FreeScience 3 года назад
I'm not a drummer, but the Ludwig would sit better in a jazz song to my ears.
@peppevonmatterhorn9161
@peppevonmatterhorn9161 3 года назад
Every cheap/expensive comparison video I've been watching basically confirms that, at least sound-wise, there's no need to spend crazy money on stuff. Of course you don't wanna go cheap, in a live situation the difference would be huge! once you reach a certain quality standard, over that point it's just collecting stuff or personal gratification imho.. which of course is good, if that's what you're looking for! 😊
@StephenTaylorDrums
@StephenTaylorDrums 3 года назад
Quality used gear or mid level priced. There is a reason you see me playing a starclassic kit and not their top shelf stuff. I feel it's more genuine to show everyone what I would be playing in real life on gigs and not what I could play just because I have an endorsement.
@Solar.Geoengineering.Advocate
@Solar.Geoengineering.Advocate 7 месяцев назад
no actually id say in live settings it'd be noticed even less. unless ur playing like quiet jazz or whatever in a tiny venue
@תהלוויספר
@תהלוויספר 3 года назад
The 800$ one has a lot more 'presence', but the cheap one sound suprisinly good.
@johnknight9150
@johnknight9150 3 года назад
If you're stuck with a cheap drum kit, the right heads can make a huge difference. I started with a $50 drumkit my brother bought. We tried a whole bunch of things, and bought Remo (because everyone buys Remo. Then I tried Evans heads, the models that lean towards brightness. The difference was night and day, and my brothers walked in and said, "wow, what did you do?!". Other than that, buy the second cheapest of everything, kids. Cars, drums, hookers, wine, whatever - second cheapest is always the best bang for buck! ;-)
@JohnGatesIII
@JohnGatesIII 3 года назад
It's the hardest thing about chasing a "Drum Sound" on a recording. Great example of how tuning has as much or more impact on the sound than the drum itself. Keep up the Great work.
@markurry3149
@markurry3149 3 года назад
I don't like either of these snares. They both suck.
@heavyhowl6365
@heavyhowl6365 3 года назад
They both sound like they'd cost less than $200 max
@itistotallykyle
@itistotallykyle 3 года назад
I really appreciate how you demo the snare with and without processing, and in a mix. It’s very insightful.
@StephenTaylorDrums
@StephenTaylorDrums 3 года назад
You would be surprised at just HOW much talking, debating, and discussion went in to the layout of this video lol. Love the guys I get to work with in the edit on these vids
@ronagoodwell2709
@ronagoodwell2709 3 года назад
Late 60s Rogers Dynasonic, chrome makes these drums sound like the cardboard boxes they were shipped in. Nice cracking attack, great tone, just a wee bit of ring and terrific snare throw. Plus built like a tank.
@TheMichaelJadeDrumChannel
@TheMichaelJadeDrumChannel 3 года назад
Hey Stephen, I know you're an Aquarian guy, but save that Ludwig snare side head! The collars are mechanically locked, rather than glued, and they hold their tuning really well! Also, they're super thin, and will last a long long time. I use them on all my snares, even if they're not a Ludwig snare. I think the only other company around with mechanically locked drumhead collars is Attack, but I could be wrong. You should do a segment about the difference of the two! Cheers!
@samjimenez4573
@samjimenez4573 2 года назад
Interesting
@gregchapman3519
@gregchapman3519 3 года назад
Pretty terrible $800 snare if you ask me. The Jazz fest snares are absolutely gutless.
@jmw0368
@jmw0368 3 года назад
To be honest the cheapo isn’t actually awful, but I didn’t think it sounded much better after you did the changes.
@nickpisarczyk
@nickpisarczyk 3 года назад
me too i didn’t really like the sound of either drum to be honesy
@philipkarovski281
@philipkarovski281 3 года назад
I didn't expect the cheap snare to sound remotely as good as it sounds, maybe because Stephen is such a good drummer
@larrytate1657
@larrytate1657 3 года назад
Except tuned low the cheap snare sounded unusable it was so bad.
@JGC1
@JGC1 3 года назад
I'm sorry, but there's no mistery in playing the snare in the way it's played on this video. The cheap snare may not sound superb, but the premium snare that costs 25 times more, doesn't sound 25 times better.
@petermcnallt12pm
@petermcnallt12pm Год назад
sounded better than the ludwig IMO on the 'out of box' test anyway. surprising.
@seanwalsh999
@seanwalsh999 3 года назад
Great test, very thorough and well exacuted. I think you should do cymbals next, but it would cost you a fortune. I like how you showed how the drums sit in the mix.
@fadeddave
@fadeddave 3 года назад
That picture you used at the start of all the gear is from Sunderland Music, my local drum shop ran by the legendary Willy Wright, it’s since moved premises but the new place is just as packed! Every pit of drum gear I own is from that shop. I couldn’t believe my eyes when it popped on the screen
@robertking7584
@robertking7584 3 года назад
Cheaper snare had more character. The over priced one has its place but sounded like crap in the mix.
@thenecroticfiend1692
@thenecroticfiend1692 3 года назад
I literally just found your channel AND im early for a video. Honestly my timing is perfect xD
@StephenTaylorDrums
@StephenTaylorDrums 3 года назад
I see what you did there ;^)
@hawkshawhawkins9273
@hawkshawhawkins9273 Год назад
My first drumset, in 1967, was made in Japan from Filipino mahogany. In those days, "made in Japan" denoted cheap junk and was quickly ridiculed. I learned then that cheap drums can be tuned to sound great. I was 11 years old but I got my set sounding very good. A rock and roll career was started that Christmas.
@JC-xx5dm
@JC-xx5dm 3 года назад
It’s all preference. There are plenty of situations where the junk snare could make the Ludwig sound like junk. Build quality is a different story.
@larrytate1657
@larrytate1657 3 года назад
Yeah the Cheap snare would prob fall apart on the road within a month.
@joshjamesuk
@joshjamesuk 3 года назад
Hey Stephen, sorry if you have already done this and I have missed it but if not, please could you do a video on how you mix snares like the light mix in this video. That would be super useful!
@8xtime
@8xtime 3 года назад
There is no way that Ludwig sounds 25 times better than the Glarry
@AudiosphereX
@AudiosphereX 3 года назад
I liked the expensive one better, but I think the cheap one sits better in the mix.
@billys3400
@billys3400 3 года назад
I buy the $800 Ludwig snare, but can't get the "Bonham" snare sound. John Bonham buys the $29 one, and gets the "Bonham" snare sound.
@curtisheddins5878
@curtisheddins5878 3 года назад
@@rossforrest 😆
@curtisheddins5878
@curtisheddins5878 3 года назад
This is a wood shell snare. Bonham played the Chrome over Aluminum 6.5X14 Ludwig Supra-phonic. You can get the Bonham sound with the Supra-phonic, but actual reproduction of his playing vary by user👍
@secordmichaeljw6717
@secordmichaeljw6717 2 года назад
The mid-range tuning on the cheap drum is my favorite of all on either drum.
@scottchantos2388
@scottchantos2388 3 года назад
I picked up a jazz fest on clearance at GC for $420. Threw some 20 strand puresound wires on it, and absolutely love it. Don’t know if I wold love it at full price though.
@StephenTaylorDrums
@StephenTaylorDrums 3 года назад
You wouldn't. I agree...it's a mid price range drum in my book.
@ungmd21
@ungmd21 3 года назад
There's an old saying, "Its not the arrow, its the Indian." While Ludwig make a good product, you are also paying for the name and the association with THAT drum. I believe its what Ringo Starr mostly used with the Beatles. If Ringo had the $29 drum, I'll bet it would still sound good. Being a guitar player, both drums sound pretty good to me, which is due to your skill.
@carlsampson7858
@carlsampson7858 3 года назад
Great comparison Stephen 👏 👍 👌 Where could find a download of the track you're playing with? 😉
@zacharyashdown7286
@zacharyashdown7286 3 года назад
Seriously!! I absolutely love that song he's playing along with. I'd love to practice to it myself. I think it's the same one he used in his "I paid three drum legends to play record the same song."
@mikeyem1562
@mikeyem1562 3 года назад
So I never thought to much about swapping out my original resonate head on my snare, mostly just never had a reason, so I did after watching this along with new snare wire (one had broke anyway so had an excuse) and just wow, wish I had done sooner.
@jj0dyw0ah..21
@jj0dyw0ah..21 3 года назад
Idk about everyone else but i love the slight overtones when hitting rimshots, i would prefer the Ludwig snare
@kork777
@kork777 3 года назад
What’s the sound track your playing to, love the vibe??
@batwithglasses
@batwithglasses 3 года назад
Expensive certainly doesn't always sound "better"...as with everything , it's in the hands of the artist. I've had very expensive snares sound horrible regardless the amount of tweaking, and I have had CB-700 snares that I could make sound amazing..Expensive usually comes with quality but not always sonic dominance I have found..just my 2 snares worth😉
@larrytate1657
@larrytate1657 3 года назад
The new Yamaha recording custom birch snare does all tuning ranges surprisingly well. Great snare.
@hombreenojado
@hombreenojado 3 года назад
Hey, those Jazz Fests are SWEET! Especially the mahogany. But of course, Ludwig so the strainer and throw off aren't great.
@BrandonKhoo
@BrandonKhoo 3 года назад
That $29 snare drum actually sounds good!! =-)
@danyodice1048
@danyodice1048 3 года назад
Do you have any videos on how you tune drums? I never saw the stick trick with the strainer before. I love ludwig but I have to say the cheaper snare sounded good. Great video idea...🤘🤘
@paulleigh5351
@paulleigh5351 3 года назад
There’s not $800 worth of difference in the sound test. Obviously. The value would come in longevity. The cheap one wouldn’t last many gigs. Great vid though Steve👍
@bndncn
@bndncn 3 года назад
The cheap one sounds like it's about to fall apart. I would be surprised if it lasted through an entire gig.
@GeoPatter
@GeoPatter Год назад
What about playing feel between the two...and..what wires do you use?
@BladesMusic
@BladesMusic 3 года назад
One thing this video shows for sure: The sound of the micing, the mix, and the player outweigh the sounds of the snare itself. I went back and forth from the front end of the video to the back and I think the preference was to the cheaper snare here in general. I use all electronic drums at this point for a lot of reasons, but getting a great snare drum sound is so important - even hearing these two against one another leads to the same end - it matters most in the playing and in the mix. Aside from that, no one in the listening world cares if it was a Ludwig or a "My Pillow" if it sounds good in the mix! Thanks for the video.
@Riddim4
@Riddim4 3 года назад
This is well conceived and presented. That said, have you discussed what a drum needs to sound great, e.g. a shell that’s in round, rims that aren’t warped, decent, well tuned heads, rods that hold tension, a snare strainer that is adjustable and stays in place, and consistent, true, bearing edges? Cost isn’t necessarily an indicator of great build quality, although better built instruments tend to require better materials and more skilled labor. If not, this is something to consider. Investing in an instrument is all well and good, but it’s usually better to invest aware of what makes a quality instrument, rather than just throw more money at a vendor and hope you get something great.
@theinsanedrummer
@theinsanedrummer 3 года назад
*I LOVED EVERY SOUND AND WAS ENJOYING* *I LOVE DRUMS SO MUCH*
@Hilldrum
@Hilldrum 3 года назад
You're gonna fix that smoke detector, right?
@StephenTaylorDrums
@StephenTaylorDrums 3 года назад
Lol, I was waiting for someone to notice it. Garage. It's hard wired into the house...battery is just dead and it started complaining this week
@stevensansone7502
@stevensansone7502 3 года назад
I was gonna comment, but I just knew someone had to have already.
@komedias
@komedias 3 года назад
heard it too lol
@ChessmasterHex
@ChessmasterHex 3 года назад
The mixing really brings these drums to life, what fx chain were you using?
@StephenTaylorDrums
@StephenTaylorDrums 3 года назад
Tim Buell on the mix for this one
@nickamodeo1331
@nickamodeo1331 3 года назад
the jazz fest was made for calfskin heads. i'd like to see that comparison video.
@billr55
@billr55 3 года назад
The $29 snare out of the box sounded best to me [mixed with the song you were playing on]. Hands down. The bark was perfect.
@erikwiseman1702
@erikwiseman1702 3 года назад
Like your videos - always interesting and I often learn something! Note that the new Ludwig P88 is designed to not "detune" while you're playing, similar to a few other recent strainers by others, hence the requirement to flip the lever before the knob will turn. A feature for some, a bug for others.
@ripleyhrgiger4669
@ripleyhrgiger4669 3 года назад
I preferred the sound of the cheaper snare in all three instances, no mix, low mix, and with music. It's going to sound crazy, but it sounded "happier" to me... which fit the music much better and made me feel good inside.
@SilverWolfRacing
@SilverWolfRacing Год назад
I just picked up a used old PDP entry level kit to use for gigging instead of using my nice kit. it is funny because the snare drum it came with is exactly the same as this cheap Amazon snare in the video. Same exact hardware and everything. I won’t be using it, but it’s interesting nonetheless. I’d imagine this is the same snare drum that a lot of entry level poplar kits use. Just rebranded for each manufacturer.
@GamingDrummer89
@GamingDrummer89 3 года назад
This is why I buy used...got a 14x6.5 Pearl Maple Free Floater for under $200 on eBay, for instance. Personally, that $800 snare doesn't sound anywhere near that price point, and the cheap-o snare works with mixing, but I'd be afraid of breaking it by accident (and I'm not THAT hard of a hitter).
@hiyesskamote567
@hiyesskamote567 3 года назад
I would use them both in different applications. They are beautifuly different from each other.
@hunterotails2015
@hunterotails2015 3 года назад
I like how the cheap drum pops more and don't like the "St. Anger" type sound on the expensive drum. I like a sharp snare sound, not sounding like a tom.
@yeetfeet1878
@yeetfeet1878 3 года назад
Nice! It was a cool comparison!
@StephenTaylorDrums
@StephenTaylorDrums 3 года назад
Thanks!
@yeetfeet1878
@yeetfeet1878 3 года назад
No problem!
@PaulAnnis
@PaulAnnis 3 года назад
Cool video, great sounds. How long did the $29 snare hold its tuning? Hardware lets down so many cheap to middle of the road drums. I sold my DW’s and picked up a cheap Mapex Meridian Obsidian Black kit a while ago, loved it but the hardware was S#%T!!! The DW’s sound just didn’t excite me.
@StephenTaylorDrums
@StephenTaylorDrums 3 года назад
It didn't hold the tuning extremely well...but I expected that
@mpymike45
@mpymike45 3 года назад
Mid tuning is the way to go👌🏽 still get the nice fat punch sound 🔥
@fatchanceb1823
@fatchanceb1823 3 года назад
Cheapie works just fine - at home practicing. Currently playing on a $20 (used rogue found online), with Evans mesh head. I may put the $25 DW 3 position snare butt on it to be able to get the snares quieter for after bedtime practice. But for it's intended purpose, you don't need to waste money on something that only matters to gammas with no value to your future. Play what works, if its a trashcan lid that builds your million dollar chops, then a trashcan lid is magnificently better than a million dollar drum that you are scared to whack with a stick.
@LegendaryMike
@LegendaryMike 3 года назад
Glarry makes some good stuff! You can literally buy a bands worth of glarry gear and still be cheaper than the ludwig snare.
@doumbec
@doumbec 3 года назад
The Ludwig sounded better out of the box before the upgrades IMO
@matthewsantos8525
@matthewsantos8525 3 года назад
it comes down to type of wood it's made of with wooden snares
@MrVoraxTranstellaris
@MrVoraxTranstellaris 3 года назад
I tend to want to remove internal dampening mechanisms from drums. Since not all drums have them, are there particular pros and cons to them?
@StephenTaylorDrums
@StephenTaylorDrums 3 года назад
They dampen in a different way than top muffling. Experiment with putting the under dampening on, then dampening from the top. I was surprised at the differences in overtones
@yosh1067
@yosh1067 3 года назад
Wow!! The flams you did on the cheapo at 15:54 sound fat!! Definitely sounded better than the flams you did on the Ludwig at 16:21. Great vid man!!! Subscribed!!!
@danielawe1037
@danielawe1037 3 года назад
I really enjoyed this video!! I am a person who played with $60 snares for quite a few years.. then roughly 9 years ago I upgraded to a $200 Ludwig, and I don’t know why I settled for so long. That $800 Ludwig sounds great (especially in the mid range), and personally I thought the cheap snare sounded better with the stock heads. Not like it sounded fantastic either way, but the slight upgrade didn’t do much for it. But, it being a cheap drum, like you explained played a part in not being able to have much freedom with tuning it.
@OneTeeGlory
@OneTeeGlory 3 года назад
Great video man. I was cringing so hard when I heard the Ludwig with high tuning. That sounded absolutely awful to me. 😂
@StephenTaylorDrums
@StephenTaylorDrums 3 года назад
It was rough
@ragnarockerbunny
@ragnarockerbunny Год назад
The cheap drum on the low tuning actually sounds really good and I prefer it to the expensive one. The mid tuning on the expensive drum sounded the best but I like the dryness off the expensive one at higher tuning.
@Dylan.Gmusic
@Dylan.Gmusic 3 года назад
5:50 That's surprisingly good for $29
@hectatusbreakfastus6106
@hectatusbreakfastus6106 3 года назад
You make a $29 drum sound better than me on my TD 27 🤣🤣🤣 skill trumps quality all the time. I love your videos.
@michaeljrussell
@michaeljrussell 3 года назад
What's that great, hook-y music track that's being used after the "light mix?" TIA.
@guywakeford3259
@guywakeford3259 5 месяцев назад
Are you sure the snare wires on an $800 ludwig really needed changing? Great comparison though. I actually quite liked the cheap drum with mid tuning. I wonder how often it would need re-tuning though?
@StephenTaylorDrums
@StephenTaylorDrums 5 месяцев назад
Yea, that's the problem. The hardware on the cheap ones is...well...cheap
@Metalhead0985
@Metalhead0985 3 года назад
How do you get the snare to have that nice crack on the high tuning snare how many turns from finger tight to get that crack and ring I love that. I have a 13x5 mapex birch snare and I have and aquarian texture coated power dot snare head and the stock snare head. Please help!! Maybe some tips on the snare wires too. Thank you sir! Love it vids been subscribed for several years now :)
@StephenTaylorDrums
@StephenTaylorDrums 3 года назад
Don't know how many turns...but tune it up higher than you think is necessary. As well, crank the bottom head WAY up. That is where the crack comes from. And get the snares tight without choking the drum. I prefer to lightly tap the snare for snare tightness. If my taps are getting mostly head sound, loosen the snares. I loosen until my ghost notes start to get some snare in them
@benr4165
@benr4165 3 года назад
I think the takeaway is, as long as the bearing edge is good, any drum can sound decent if limited in it's tuning range. Then again, you wouldn't imagine a cheap drum holding up to being gigged and the abuse you might inflict on it. Of course at $29, you might have several spares. Disposable snare drums!!
@jugheadjones5458
@jugheadjones5458 3 года назад
As a non-professional, although I played paying gigs, I could get by with the cheap snare, maybe as a backup. No way the $800 snare is so much better that it’s worth the price. Buy a $100 or $200 snare and I’ll bet you can get good enough sounds. No one at a gig is going to notice. Interesting that with the backing track I couldn’t hear the ghost notes. They sounded awesome solo.
@jeffmcdonald8076
@jeffmcdonald8076 3 года назад
I play a 1965 slingerland snare drum .. I have a lot of snare drums but don't none of them compare to that one
@jeffmcdonald8076
@jeffmcdonald8076 3 года назад
And I agree Aquarian is the only way to go
@jimmydudley652
@jimmydudley652 2 года назад
Before I get a minute into the video snare number 2 is the 800 dollar one. 0:36 seconds in.
@NoName-qt6wb
@NoName-qt6wb 3 года назад
I had a $1000 bubinga snare that wasn't all that. But will the cheap snare stay in tune or drop lugs on the floor at a gig ?
@ambiention
@ambiention 3 года назад
I generally prefer the more expensive one, but I can imagine tracks where the cheap one would be more appropriate.
@warmfuzzydeath
@warmfuzzydeath 3 года назад
i have a sonor 503 (china cheap) set I use for practice cause its easy to set up and is small.. the snare that came with it is awesome and works better in a lot of circumstances than my Tama Swingstar and Sonor Phonic snare. Paid $200 for the whole set and it came with cymbals on craigslist... turned around and sold the cymbals for $200...
@Majerly_Annoyed
@Majerly_Annoyed 2 года назад
I really like the song you are playing along with. Anyone know the name of the song???
@chrisggoodwin777
@chrisggoodwin777 3 года назад
I also, whether it's a less expensive PDP or high end DW, change the heads as soon as I get a new snare. The PDP will usually get new snare wires, but the DW keeps the stock wires (yes, I'm a DW fanboy lol). I tend to use the same heads on all my snares (Evans HD Dry and Snare Side 300), but do look for that tuning sweet spot for each drum.
@joethelowbudgetdrummer7743
@joethelowbudgetdrummer7743 3 года назад
Just bought a used PDP kit to get back into playing, and after a little tuning on the Evan's and Remo heads that were on it I was impressed. They sound really good.
@chrisggoodwin777
@chrisggoodwin777 3 года назад
@@joethelowbudgetdrummer7743 I truly believe PDP is some of the best value for money spent. I know there are other good kits for less, but for what they cost, I feel the player gets quite a lot of bang for the buck (pun intended 😉)
@joethelowbudgetdrummer7743
@joethelowbudgetdrummer7743 3 года назад
@@chrisggoodwin777 I only paid $120 for it and it came with a hi hat stand, kick pedal, snare stand, zildjian K custom crash, and a ZBT crash. I ordered everything else I needed and have $500 in a complete setup that I wouldn't be ashamed to gig with.
@chrisggoodwin777
@chrisggoodwin777 3 года назад
@@joethelowbudgetdrummer7743 that's a killer deal! I gigged with PDP kits for years. When I got my DW (just because I wanted to, not because I needed to), I donated my PDP to my church, so it still gets played weekly and sounds great
@BibleStorm
@BibleStorm 3 года назад
Cheap snare sounded better with the original heads.
@misterknightowlandco
@misterknightowlandco 3 года назад
It did
@STOPH3R01991
@STOPH3R01991 3 года назад
you should post a follow up with a complete makeover on the cheap snare with nicer hardware.
@johnstewart7619
@johnstewart7619 3 года назад
I think the cheap drum would sound much better with a new throw off. Both could use different heads (no offense to Aquarian), and a muffle ring on top would really help (or if you’re poor like me and can’t afford a muffle ring, thanks Covid, then duct or electrical tape over a small wadded up piece of toilet paper would help quiet the overtones). Also, not a big fan of a 57 on a snare drum (I know it’s the industry standard, but different mics produce different sounds). A different mic and placement has a lot to do with what we hear (and I couldn’t tell if you had a mic on the bottom head). 1 last thing here: If you buy the cheap drum you can expect to change the lugs, rims, heads, throw off, snares, pretty much everything on the drum (I would, because the first time I snapped a lug onstage I would be very angry), then why not pay a little more and get something better? I think when you get in the $200 range and over for snares, the quality and hardware definitely improves. Tama SLP snares come to mind. Great video and thanks for the comparison. I clicked the like and subscribed.
@bmbell71
@bmbell71 3 года назад
I dislike both drums and actually for $800, but I expected I wouldn't like the $30 snare. I am amazed at how uninspiring the Ludwig snare sounds. I know this is a "wood" drum test but for $800, putting brand biases aside you could get a black beauty or a supraphonic in that same price range that have way more tuning range than that thing did. If you want a 5.5" wood snare, I've heard drums for a lot less than that thing from other manufacturers that would blow it away. Bottom line, what does the drum sound like, what's it's tuning range, what's it's frequency response, etc. etc. Most of the big name manufacturers make good stuff, but they also can make stuff that's not so great. However I totally agree about the internal muffling. I really wish they would bring that back, and stop having to mess with crazy sound engineers putting gaffer tape all over your heads.
@StephenTaylorDrums
@StephenTaylorDrums 3 года назад
I was thinking the same thing. If I'm gonna pay that money, there are a couple of go to's you mentioned that would smoke this one
@davidcarrizales7843
@davidcarrizales7843 10 месяцев назад
I wood go with the cheap wood poplar snare drum. Sound just as good.
@michaellotz1811
@michaellotz1811 3 года назад
Ludwig sounds great but definitely not $771 better.
@graysonbrown3744
@graysonbrown3744 3 года назад
hey stephen do you mind sharing the mix of music your using it sounds awesome and i want to try to dru it
@PlayAcousticDrums
@PlayAcousticDrums 3 года назад
I have , uh, 7 snare drums. 3 Birch, 1 maple, 1 oak/maple, 1 mahogany, and 1 metal 13" and 14" in diameter and 5 1/2 up to 8" thick from to $ to $$$ from 3 different manufacturers. I like them all for different reasons. They are all set up differently to get the sound I like out them. So if you like how it sounds and suits your purpose, then who cares what you paid for it. And I didn't care for either of those snares in the video regardless of tuning, so there ya go.
@ryandonohue152
@ryandonohue152 3 года назад
That Ludwig should have a p88 throw for the price. I had to change the crap p85 to the p88 on a hammered black beauty. Spend $700 and Ludwig gives you the throw from a student snare.
@StephenTaylorDrums
@StephenTaylorDrums 3 года назад
I hate the throwoff. It's the worst.
@helgijonsson3537
@helgijonsson3537 3 года назад
Hey dude, I'd love to see you do a drum mixing tutorial. All your drum mixes sound great and I want to know your secrets! Cheers from an Icelandic guy in Norway!
@StephenTaylorDrums
@StephenTaylorDrums 3 года назад
Thanks! Tim Buell does all of my mixing
@helgijonsson3537
@helgijonsson3537 3 года назад
@@StephenTaylorDrums Alright, good to know!
@JakeStaffin
@JakeStaffin 3 года назад
My favorite color is percussion wood color.
@maxadrums
@maxadrums 3 года назад
In the mix, surprisingly I probably preferred the cheap snare with the stock head, haha! Was not expecting that. But it's all about what fits.
@StephenTaylorDrums
@StephenTaylorDrums 3 года назад
ALL about what fits and works
@dye182
@dye182 3 года назад
I hate 5.5 6” is the minimal depth for me preferred 6.5
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