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@ricketron
@ricketron 4 года назад
Somehow, this material that's well known for inseparably bonding itself to bare glass has inseparably bonded itself to bare glass. Truly baffling!
@truetech4158
@truetech4158 4 года назад
It's like 2525 dark matter.
@thenormanfair
@thenormanfair 4 года назад
Incredible!
@rpavlik1
@rpavlik1 4 года назад
Even more baffling, it's the material provided by the vendor...
@3DPrintingNerd
@3DPrintingNerd 4 года назад
I've NEVER had PETG bond itself to bare glass before on the machines I've run it. It's always been tough to print because the first layer just wouldn't stick right. I've had PETG weld itself to PEI before, that one was fun...
@pericodesign1679
@pericodesign1679 4 года назад
I found myself wondering how much filament that chess piece took to make
@MakersMuse
@MakersMuse 4 года назад
Seems like that bed surface is in desperate need of changing... like a huge PEI springsteel sheet maybe? Expensive yes, but it's already 38K!
@santiagoblandon3022
@santiagoblandon3022 4 года назад
Next video: "i broke a $38.000... again" ahahah
@crystaldragon141
@crystaldragon141 4 года назад
3/16 also seems really thin for that size. I'd think 1/4 or 5/16 minimum. But Joel come on I know you like to play the dumb consumer to test user friendliness but this is a commercial machine with a pricetag to match. You had to know that was going to happen when you printed directly on glass with petg.
@Real28
@Real28 4 года назад
If Disney has broken it 4 times already as well, that sounds like there are settings or prints to avoid. Feels like certain materials/temps when mixed with a large enough first layer create too much adhesion
@MrWizard65
@MrWizard65 4 года назад
Not without glue or hairspray between the PETG and the PEI sheet.
@santiagoblandon3022
@santiagoblandon3022 4 года назад
that's the joke ;)
@Tux2mc
@Tux2mc 4 года назад
Printing a chair and seeing just how much weight it can hold would be so cool.
@truetech4158
@truetech4158 4 года назад
Good call, after that then maybe print an auditorium or a solar city, with the proper Slicr engine, and building permit.
@BBMando69
@BBMando69 4 года назад
I like the chair idea.
@truetech4158
@truetech4158 4 года назад
@@BBMando69 I watched a youtube yesterday of someone 3d printing a stool, and they had the description saying: today i'm going to 3d print a stool. They used dowel to connect the seat to the stools legs, and it was printed so fast that the infill settings were not that durable, and i mentioned that they better be very safe with that or they could end up either in the hospital or the coroners office if they shifted their weight while sitting on that stool if they forget that its not the safest design they created. Furniture printing should not be compromized with no cutting corners in the safety redundancy dept. Something to consider if anyone wants to print a chair, so they dont end up in a wheelchair for life or worse without life. The-Digital-Lifeguard-Project-_- #SafetyFirst
@Dogburt_Junior
@Dogburt_Junior 4 года назад
How about a small stool? Like from Harbor Freight.
@BlackWolf18C
@BlackWolf18C 4 года назад
@@truetech4158 You may joke, but one day soon there will be houses that were fully constructed and furnished to a habitable level in a shockingly short time by a fleet of trailers containing a bunch of 3D printers and feed stock. We can already print large structures in concrete, it would be easy to add dual extrusion of expanding insulation foam to that machine, and Laser Metal Deposition is progressing rapidly to the point where we can print structural-grade parts in various alloys without a need for post-processing. Ten years at most, I'd wager, until we see a functional fully 3D printed home.
@brianburton7716
@brianburton7716 4 года назад
We can't really judge the quality of this printer until we see a 1 meter long Benchy.
@3DPrintingNerd
@3DPrintingNerd 4 года назад
ha!
@craftanything8041
@craftanything8041 4 года назад
Brian Burton yes
@XenWolfson
@XenWolfson 4 года назад
Benchy could be 1.4m if printed diagonale
@jeffbeegle
@jeffbeegle 4 года назад
It's been done! I believe each color represents a 5lb spool of pla. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AUr0g2FXxGk.html
@smithfamilydesigns2012
@smithfamilydesigns2012 4 года назад
I agree.. ALL printers are tested with Benchy. Print a normal size benchy (no doubt it will look terrible with a nozzle that size) Then print a massive one and put a motor and RC controls on it.
@glanzone
@glanzone 4 года назад
Dinosaur bones then bury them all over town.
@hyperfluff_folf
@hyperfluff_folf 3 года назад
But leave a small text on it for the archeologist that might be called when they are found lol
@srglamboo
@srglamboo 3 года назад
In Naturalis (a nature history museum in the Netherlands) They have a large printer (Don't know the brand, but it's definetly a different one) to print missing bones for their dinosaur skeletons
@Hawk1966
@Hawk1966 4 года назад
This, Joel, THIS is the printer to turn out a GIANT rubber band rocket from your ladt Fan Mail Friday¡! It would be glorious!!!! Do it! Do it! Doooooooo it!
@cobusgrobler662
@cobusgrobler662 4 года назад
Isn't PETG one of those things you do not print directly on glass
@noway8233
@noway8233 4 года назад
I print in glass whith spray hair very , very well, to remove the object yuo just need to wait to cold down, then came up gently
@highlandcrawler
@highlandcrawler 4 года назад
It's pretty well known as a material that's best not printed onto bare glass. It's pretty much universally recommend from most reputable sources that a barrier layer of some sort is best practice.
@TechBrewGamer
@TechBrewGamer 4 года назад
need glue stick, hair spray, or blue tape.
@gregoryp203
@gregoryp203 4 года назад
yes this is common knowledge. Martin with Wintergaten had the same problem. I am surprised Joel didn't know this.
@user10476
@user10476 4 года назад
I print PETG on glass all the time (it's the only thing I print wthi and on). No problem at all if you just let it cool down.
@lipvandip6480
@lipvandip6480 4 года назад
$38k machine comes with magigoo Joel: hmm, it's only 38k, i'll wing it without
@mathew66
@mathew66 3 года назад
What’s magigoo?
@lipvandip6480
@lipvandip6480 3 года назад
@@mathew66 Google can probably explain that to you my friend
@mathew66
@mathew66 3 года назад
Luke J so could u my friend. But what evs
@N8TURES
@N8TURES 3 года назад
you can buy a icon 3d house maker with that price smh
@erazn9077
@erazn9077 3 года назад
“Magigoo 3D Printing Adhesives offer a great way for ensuring your prints stick perfectly to the build plate, even when printing with more challenging materials like nylon, polypropylene, or polycarbonate.” :p
@vit.budina
@vit.budina 4 года назад
PETG: 'is known for welding itself to glass' Joel: Doo dee, dum da lee, first thing I print will be PETG
@Wooddust6
@Wooddust6 4 года назад
Was thinking 'hope he set zoffset for petg' 😭 Thats why he welded to the pei also too close. Oh and Yes totally print a throne to sit in and watch prints!
@cowardly_wizard
@cowardly_wizard 4 года назад
Even better, they gave him petg to use
@derekverveer6058
@derekverveer6058 3 года назад
Am I the only one who sang the whole thing like it was some jingle?
@DuncanHopkins
@DuncanHopkins 2 года назад
Did exactly the same on a Mega-s, started using PETG (and glue) and managed to rip a fissure up the middle of the build plate! 😳
@YunFuriku
@YunFuriku 4 года назад
Joel has magic touch for breaking things
@katherinemorton9126
@katherinemorton9126 4 года назад
But not like Linus
@YunFuriku
@YunFuriku 4 года назад
@@katherinemorton9126 ​ Linus Droptest has become official testing standard nowadays for electronics. Manufacturers use it by sending things to Linus :)
@channelvr1293
@channelvr1293 4 года назад
Maybe a huge sand castle? You know the one you would fill with sand. 😁
@Kensivren
@Kensivren 4 года назад
I just call that having a hand of adult but excitement of a toddler. Must touch everything!!!!!
@andyspoo2
@andyspoo2 3 года назад
It's a good thing that he shows himself braking things. So many reviewers cut those bits out, give you an affiliate link to buy the product and sing about how wonderful everything is while hiding the truth.
@LanceMiller87
@LanceMiller87 4 года назад
A complete set of Stormtrooper armor, all in one print!
@DJlegionuk
@DJlegionuk 4 года назад
I was going to suggest some kind of armour, Stormtrooper, Mando or Iron man.
@truetech4158
@truetech4158 4 года назад
A affordable self driving powered exoskeleton of sorts, to help people walk again or for the first time.
@coceg87
@coceg87 4 года назад
Maybe he can just seat still on the build plate, and let the printer print the armor around him
@flamestoyershadowkill6400
@flamestoyershadowkill6400 4 года назад
or giant ass bionicle masks
@NeoIsrafil
@NeoIsrafil 4 года назад
Yes! OMG THE IRON MAN ARMOR!! Its finally a big enough printer to one piece it! The helmet wouldn't need gluing, it could be printed as is! The biggest pain was gluing it all together when it was done, and the glue breaking, etc. Dude...while you've got it, iron man armor!
@ThatGamerCher
@ThatGamerCher 4 года назад
To the man who is courageous enough to reveal his mistakes and lessons learned along the way... I salute you. 🤗
@Krmpfpks
@Krmpfpks 4 года назад
While I agree that Joel seems to be a nice guy being honest about his mistakes (hard to say without knowing him in person, but that’s my impression from his videos) - having the printer and not making a video would certainly be a problem for any creator and most creators would have made some kind of video.
@SoylentSax
@SoylentSax 4 года назад
I’m still confused. What was the mistake? How was it preventable?I would have liked to hear this.
@ThatGamerCher
@ThatGamerCher 4 года назад
@@SoylentSax only meant it's commendable of him keeping it real, by pointing out the crack that happened in the glass print bed and how the jug holder fused to the flexible print bed. As opposed to say, for example, simply covering over the crack with the flexible build plate and not stating the (literal) underlying issue going on underneath. To be honest, a $38K machine purchase outright is far beyond the means many folks have available at the moment to begin with, but rather than simply "keep up appearances" he has a great way of remaining relatable, even the casual hobbyist, by pointing out that things CAN go wrong. I, for one, have appreciate that about his vlogging style thus far. 🤗
@scrmnthn5233
@scrmnthn5233 4 года назад
@@SoylentSax I believe I've heard petg isn't supposed to be printed on bare glass because of the effect that Joel saw and it's recommended that one uses blue tape or a removable surface to print on. never printed in petg though so I may be confusing it with a different material
@Krmpfpks
@Krmpfpks 4 года назад
SoylentSax I think it’s the fact that he broke the glass when removing the pawn.
@rothery2
@rothery2 4 года назад
I want to see a reaction video of you telling them that you broke the bed glass on the first print due to not using a release agent with PETG
@juliancannizzaro2906
@juliancannizzaro2906 4 года назад
Break the record and make it count. Go big or go home. Making a scaled version of yourself would be awesome too but bigger is better
@wilderstewart9917
@wilderstewart9917 4 года назад
a 1:1 scale.
@mannyt214
@mannyt214 4 года назад
Joel 2.0 😉
@BadgerBishop
@BadgerBishop 4 года назад
Is it nicer to make it just a tiny bit bigger to beat XRobots, or nicer to beat him by a lot? I mean if he wanted to take the record back it could be possible with only a bit bigger compared to making it substantially bigger.
@squirrelrobotics
@squirrelrobotics 4 года назад
Why does this $38,000 Industrial, 3D printer NOT have a removable build plate and ABL?
@rpavlik1
@rpavlik1 4 года назад
Because a printer like this probably has a department dedicated to running it and its peers?
@timomiller569
@timomiller569 4 года назад
Removable build plate at that size may be heavy and maybe unpractical but lack on abl is unforgivable
@PrickConjo
@PrickConjo 3 года назад
@@rpavlik1 thats the suckiest argument ive ever seen :)
@squirrelrobotics
@squirrelrobotics 3 года назад
@@rpavlik1 No, just no, why would you make it so that a whole department has to exist purely to run a 3D printer? There are soo many design oversights on this printer, to the point that I would say it's not even suitable to be produced.
@squirrelrobotics
@squirrelrobotics 3 года назад
@@timomiller569 But still, glass? Really? And regular, super thin glass at that. Could have done PEI or buildtak or something!
@KenSikora
@KenSikora 4 года назад
I've destroyed a borosilicate bed the same way with PETG, and it scarred me for life. Only cost me $80 to replace the bed, but at the time, it felt like $38,000.
@tunkka
@tunkka 3 года назад
BCN3D?
@enochroot9438
@enochroot9438 4 года назад
3d Breaking Nerd
@truetech4158
@truetech4158 4 года назад
And then there was the breaking for lunch after he broke the machine though had some help, though that seemed it was affordably intentional.
@brunosco
@brunosco 3 года назад
Haha, I was thinking about that new name too!
@tmj120racer5
@tmj120racer5 4 года назад
If i had a printer of this size i will print a 10kg benchy just as a king of benchy
@arnaudcochin3854
@arnaudcochin3854 4 года назад
Yes, a Very Very Big Benchy. And you can try to make it sail on a lake 😉
@donaldmcfarlane5004
@donaldmcfarlane5004 4 года назад
We Have!! The thing is really heavy and floats just not very well.
@wilderstewart9917
@wilderstewart9917 4 года назад
even a multi part functional benchy. with like a 5hp trolling motor.
@schbrownie04
@schbrownie04 4 года назад
Benchy is too top heavy... even the smallest wave will make it flip over.
@wilderstewart9917
@wilderstewart9917 4 года назад
@@schbrownie04 use the smart infil, so the top is lightened. adapt. overcome.
@Creative_Electronics
@Creative_Electronics 4 года назад
Wow I didn't know that you should break a 38,000 dollar printer! You make awesome video's Joel!
@drewpowers8645
@drewpowers8645 4 года назад
Oh my god! I didn’t catch on when you said the build plate was huge and “to take a good look because it wouldn’t be like this for long”😂 until I watched it the second time. Instant classic my friend.
@frijoli9579
@frijoli9579 4 года назад
That is likely the crappiest 38,000 dollar machine I have seen.
@AmusementLabs
@AmusementLabs 4 года назад
Yeah, kinda surprised they didn't include a spring steel sheet.
@spunkmire2664
@spunkmire2664 4 года назад
just curious, with the glass bed breaking, did you let the whole bed cool down first? I had this happen twice to me before with a old printer from 2014 that used boro glass, both were with petg, and i was rushing and pulled the part from the bed when it was hot. I feel your pain, though my glass was 12x12 inches.
@toddspeck9415
@toddspeck9415 3 года назад
So cool to see such a massive printer. Thanks for showing and explaining it.
@Cullens_Workshop
@Cullens_Workshop 4 года назад
i'd be so frustrated if i broke the glass on my firs print! awesome machine!
@ericfranck4131
@ericfranck4131 4 года назад
At 9:10 The "transponders" are Motor encoders that can detect missed steps or of one is faster than the other and fix itself. We use them a lot in FRC to make sure we can do our Autonomous Functions correctly
@rpavlik1
@rpavlik1 4 года назад
So does this mean these are closed loop servos? Or just slightly fancier steppers and drivers? (Eg trinamic can detect missed steps)
@ericfranck4131
@ericfranck4131 4 года назад
rpavlik1 it’s a basic stepper motor with an encoder latched onto the back of the motor and it (i assume) sends the steps it counts to the main board and if they aren’t synced it will compensate
@ethanrake4929
@ethanrake4929 4 года назад
Ayy FRC gang. HOT Team checking in.
@ericfranck4131
@ericfranck4131 4 года назад
@@ethanrake4929 Hero's Of Tomorrow? Team 67? Im Tean 6722 LED Robotics
@YunFuriku
@YunFuriku 4 года назад
I want MiniJoel as .. 150% upscale from lifesized one :)
@ArticTiger
@ArticTiger 4 года назад
full size master chief armour, no assembly required! The torso bit will be interesting!
@Aidenn23
@Aidenn23 4 года назад
I support this decision.
@CosplayKitchen
@CosplayKitchen 4 года назад
Oh my gosh Joel, you are one step from a mad scientist and this is why we love you! Really though, make a table with that very large “tree holder”
@Slushee
@Slushee 4 года назад
I remember Simon from RClifeOn 3D printed himself with a 1*1*1m 3D printer. Also, are they mad about the bed breaking? o.o
@aadvaithmandampully3279
@aadvaithmandampully3279 4 года назад
I guess so if it's a 38,000 dollar printer on rent I wonder how much the print bed cost?
@wilderstewart9917
@wilderstewart9917 4 года назад
@@aadvaithmandampully3279 well in essence its a big ass mirror. so just get a mirror cut, maybe a couple hundred? id bet the heater part of the bed is fine
@nilssen3dservice284
@nilssen3dservice284 3 года назад
Big difference, RClifeOn can 3d print. 3DPnerd can`t
@JMNTN
@JMNTN 4 года назад
Seems really expensive for what it is. Not even an auto leveling bed
@certified-forklifter
@certified-forklifter 4 года назад
similar thought. look at the cable management on the print head
@PhotonCast
@PhotonCast 4 года назад
I thought the same thing. For $35,000 I would expect at least the features of a Prusa.
@truetech4158
@truetech4158 4 года назад
Non planar version design.
@schbrownie04
@schbrownie04 4 года назад
The machine DOES have auto bed leveling. Due to the time it takes to run through the bed leveling routine for this large of a print surface, it doesn't do it every time the printer runs - only when the operator determines it's necessary. The aluminum plate under the glass holds the surface pretty rigid, so it's not required between every print job.
@nukelukas
@nukelukas 4 года назад
Please continue with that 400% OpenRC F1! And do not forget add chanell for an actual brake! :-) (Greetings from Prague)
@ualdayan
@ualdayan 4 года назад
Misread that at first as 'I bought a $38,000 3D printer', then read it correctly as 'I broke', then realized it's the same thing. You broke it, you bought it!
@crashmaxx1987
@crashmaxx1987 4 года назад
Wait, they provided PETG for a machine with a giant glass bed? Did they give you any instructions for prepping the glass before printing?
@throngcleaver
@throngcleaver 4 года назад
Crisco...
@schbrownie04
@schbrownie04 4 года назад
Joel said in the video that it came with Magigoo... it just didn't get used on the first print...
@3DPrintingNerd
@3DPrintingNerd 4 года назад
The first two test prints by Don were PETG on the bare glass and they were fine. He said they do PETG all the time without the Magigoo and it's fine at the office. The Magigoo was "if something doesn't stick well enough, use the Magigoo to help it stick."
@edwardpaulsen1074
@edwardpaulsen1074 3 года назад
@@3DPrintingNerd I would venture to say that they likely didn't print things with that much surface area right in the middle of the bed...
@3DPrintingNerd
@3DPrintingNerd 3 года назад
@@edwardpaulsen1074 They have!
@arcadeuk
@arcadeuk 4 года назад
Don't worry Joel, everyone who is new to 3d printing. breaks something when removing a PETG print 😂🤣😂🤣
@edwardpaulsen1074
@edwardpaulsen1074 3 года назад
That would be acceptable if he hadn't been doing this for years now... one would think there would be some "learning" going on and not repeating the same mistakes...
@hyperfluff_folf
@hyperfluff_folf 3 года назад
@@edwardpaulsen1074 yeah but Z offset leveling stuff is a mistake that can sneak in sometimes, you only need to forget to check that once and it might happen to you too lol
@joshanderson1019
@joshanderson1019 3 года назад
I havent broke anything yet on my ender 3 pro, but im sure it is soon to happen
@edwardpaulsen1074
@edwardpaulsen1074 3 года назад
@@hyperfluff_folf There is a HUGE difference between "Z offset leveling" and printing PETG, which is *known* to sometimes stick to glass, on a super large area glass plate... not to mention just diving in on a brand new machine without going over the operation a few times... That's like getting a new lathe and just throwing a notoriously difficult metal on it without checking speeds, cutting tool, lubricants, and depth of cut and wondering why the tool shattered and damaged the machine...
@Achiles5th
@Achiles5th 3 года назад
@@edwardpaulsen1074 Man the other day I broke a nozzle (it was heated, I'm not that dumb) and I've been doing this soon to be 3 years now. The only difference between now and then is that I broke a nozzle on a Markforged printer. They want $1,700 to replace it, but my $20 screw extractor kit says otherwise.
@is2scooby
@is2scooby 4 года назад
This video was AWESOME! Entertaining and informative. I’d love to see the world record breaker and/or a barstool to go with your grumblers.
@richardland5563
@richardland5563 4 года назад
I’d like to thank you I’ve been watching your videos for awhile and they’re very useful...
@3DPrintingNerd
@3DPrintingNerd 4 года назад
Thank you!
@Keinapappa
@Keinapappa 4 года назад
Make a huge litophane moon with that monster.
@jamescarney2088
@jamescarney2088 4 года назад
or a death star " that's no moon it's a space station"
@DJlegionuk
@DJlegionuk 4 года назад
Break the record or some type of cosplay armour, perhaps work with Bill to design one for you.
@shawngrabowski988
@shawngrabowski988 3 года назад
I love the shirt man!!!! Oh yeah, you have an awesome RU-vid channel👍. Keep up the good work. I love learning from others mistakes especially when I've made it myself and I can watch your same experience on how to correct it. I think I can say I've learned more from you about 3D printing than anywhere. Thanks for all the help 3D Printing Nerd, Shawn
@RandomSmith
@RandomSmith 4 года назад
I was thinking of printing out a chair, but a record breaker sounds cool too...
@toyotaboyhatman
@toyotaboyhatman 4 года назад
Even though I know what the first printers look like, this looks like it's one of the first printers ever made.. Like "Somedayyy.. there will be a 3d printer in every home. yea right, how is anyone going to fit this in their house? Through technology, it shall be scaled down to fit on a coffee table".
@MattWeber
@MattWeber 3 года назад
Umm.. you cant scale down that build volume to fit on a coffee table.. this isnt the Tardis.. People that need this volume will find a place to fit it. I know people with industrial bed lasers in their house. If there is a need for it, people find a way to make room for it.
@thebooboo3269
@thebooboo3269 3 года назад
It already can this is a massive printer they get pretty small compared to this one
@MattWeber
@MattWeber 3 года назад
@@thebooboo3269 honestly this is still small compared to some. There are people that have bigbox printers in their home and they can go up to 3 m cu print volume.
@KernsJW
@KernsJW 4 года назад
FDM and 38k, seems high priced, but I imagine parts at that size are tough to source, expensive, and need to be custom made. Petg always needs glue stick!
@SagittariusArtworks
@SagittariusArtworks 4 года назад
Happened to my buildplates in the ultimaker 2+ many times when using Extrudr pla. That filament welded everything together, removal impossible without damage on the plate. After i changed to fillamentum no problems since.
@markoppenheimer8842
@markoppenheimer8842 3 года назад
Awesome video! Go for the record!
@Harad_nur
@Harad_nur 4 года назад
2000$ for printer parts, 1000$ for workbench, 35000$ for what?
@jim.c6780
@jim.c6780 4 года назад
Exactly I just built a cnc machine that 1m by 1m and I can swap the spindle with a extruder and do Exactly what this 38k printer can do and it cost me a little under 3k but I can also cnc, 3D print and laser cut and my machine is built like a tank.
@Roiki
@Roiki 4 года назад
Tech support and warranty
@ericfranck4131
@ericfranck4131 4 года назад
I read the title and i cried a bit..
@TotalGAMIX
@TotalGAMIX 3 года назад
Im so excited to see 3d printing growing in the coming years
@bennett214
@bennett214 4 года назад
I want to see you break your own records for some past prints! Specifically the giant Space needle and the giant lion. Maybe even a revisit to your recent marble kaleidoscope...and make it bowling ball size
@RabbitsInBlack
@RabbitsInBlack 4 года назад
Why my rule of Thumb is ALWAYS PUT PVA on the Bed. Protects that Bed, even a $38,000 bed.
@theoblanks8364
@theoblanks8364 4 года назад
This seems like a huge waste, print quality honestly isn't that great for 38k kind of disappointing
@arcadeuk
@arcadeuk 4 года назад
Joel's printing ultra-low resolution models on it for some reason and scaling them up, I bet it would print fine if you exported something direct from a vector
@10ulcinj
@10ulcinj 4 года назад
@@arcadeuk for 38k you get wobbling of the whole gantry if it goes up, in my opinion thats unacceptable for any printer that costs more than 2k. I probably could make a better 1m3 printer that costs lot less, probably like 1-2k. How are they making it cost 38k not even a good cnc costs this much...
@RomanoPRODUCTION
@RomanoPRODUCTION 4 года назад
I guess Ivan Miranda has made a better large printer
@10ulcinj
@10ulcinj 4 года назад
@@RomanoPRODUCTION Absolutely and its mostly 3d Printed and costed probably less than 500 Euros.
@FowlerAskew
@FowlerAskew 4 года назад
@@RomanoPRODUCTION That's a better printer for hobbyists. It's a terrible printer for businesses. For a business that needs a 1m x 1m build volume on an FDM 3d printer for whatever reason, your only other option is a Stratasys F900 and that costs way more. It isn't cost effective for a company to build their own giant 3d printer, troubleshoot it, and fiddle with it until they can get it to work. It's much cheaper to spend 38k on something that has tech support
@Rvd3b0y
@Rvd3b0y 4 года назад
Considering how warm it is outside, and the size of that build plate... a full set of Shoretrooper Armor seems like the only logical answer, and would be a great functional print.
@aldosv73
@aldosv73 4 года назад
You need to take that world record, Do it for us! lol loved it, awesome machine, and thanks for the share.
@robertburns2415
@robertburns2415 4 года назад
If you're going to try to break the world record four largest 3D print of a human go For Broke print the Colossus of Rhodes.
@Henchman1977
@Henchman1977 4 года назад
So you can drive around with beer on the front seat of your car?
@Inventorsquare
@Inventorsquare 4 года назад
Unopened, officer.
@dimwitrj
@dimwitrj 4 года назад
@@Inventorsquare Has to be something sealed closed, screw cap can be considered an open container. I'd transport these in the trunk to avoid issue, filled or empty.
@Inventorsquare
@Inventorsquare 4 года назад
R J Oh yeah, I forgot it was a refill.
@nhwilkinosn
@nhwilkinosn 4 года назад
Life foreshadowing when you asked the guy if anyone broke the glass 🤣🤣 Joel, you're fantastic. Even when I'm wanting to throw my printer out the window of an airplane (I know, I know, shh) you make me remember why I got it and cool down
@Arrowed_Sparrow
@Arrowed_Sparrow 3 года назад
I've actually had similar issues. My fix for this is to wipe down the glass with heavily salted water, then wipe it dry. The print stays perfectly in place but there won't be any binding to the glass. Hope it helps, love the videos.
@skwerleyz
@skwerleyz 4 года назад
"it ships with magigoo" D'OH
@sagedismal
@sagedismal 4 года назад
Joel: Should I print the thing? Me: Print ALL the things!
@jumpingfun8038
@jumpingfun8038 4 года назад
print a castle, usually the ones i have seen have to be printed in segments and it would be cool to see one printed big and whole
@adamfermor2669
@adamfermor2669 4 года назад
I love the filament manufacturer request I don't want to know how fast that printer can chew through filament
@umbratherios5614
@umbratherios5614 4 года назад
that machine is overpriced. plain and simple.
@jensharbers6702
@jensharbers6702 4 года назад
True. When you look at the unit Ivan Miranda built, this thing seems a bit overpriced... I mean solid metalworking and stuff, but wobbly Gantry, seriously?
@teresashinkansen9402
@teresashinkansen9402 4 года назад
Pfff just wait until you see the stratasys printers much smaller and more expensive yet they don't perform that much better than a home grade 3D printer.
@rOSScOGITANS
@rOSScOGITANS 4 года назад
very strange to print directly on the glass, did you read the manual? i think your warranty it's over! :)
@C-M-E
@C-M-E 3 года назад
When you go getting custom spools of Proto-pasta to needing a factory line hooked up to your printer, you know you've really achieved zenith status! Now I want to see one of these with a MIG welding head attachment.
@GregAtlas
@GregAtlas 4 года назад
What do you think of the water cooling system? I'd kind of think that would be a bigger benefit to an enclosed system so you could keep the heat in but still have adequate cooling for the cold end.
@DwenDooley
@DwenDooley 4 года назад
Hairy Lion (again!)
@JeremyNaus
@JeremyNaus 4 года назад
Maybe I'm an asshole for saying it but: wearing a facemask while leaving the nose uncovered nullifies the reason to wear a facemask...
@JAYTEEAU
@JAYTEEAU 4 года назад
:) twitter.com/JAYTEEAU/status/1289921057114034176
@tribaldragon19
@tribaldragon19 4 года назад
Hi Joel! We use an older version of that printer at work and had the same outcome with PETG. Went we have to print PETG, we use a sheet of MIC6 1/4" aluminum on top of the glass with a custom start script to take into account the extra thickness in Simplify3D. G1 Z6.8 F100 G92 Z0 6.8mm is the thickness of the sheet we got. PETG seems to create micro-fractures in the glass when printing large models.
@3DPrintingNerd
@3DPrintingNerd 4 года назад
So THAT is what happened. I figured it was something like that. When I went to remove the pawn model, just barely touching it created cracked glass. I thought it was a material defect in the glass. That's a great idea on the aluminum. I have been looking around for one and pricing it out, though I was thinking I would have Dave from Printed Solid get me a custom PEI sheet for it :)
@tribaldragon19
@tribaldragon19 4 года назад
@3D Printing Nerd I'm worried that a PEI sheet that big would bow in the middle if it isn't thick enough. 1m x 1m is crazy!! If you ever get an aluminum sheet, don't use it with the factory finish ... nothing will stick to it, too shiny and smooth, you'll need to rough it up with sandpaper or scotch bright pad. I have used the scotch pad with a 5lbs block of steel on it and use a fair amount of PVA glue (glue stick). At the moment I have aluminum covering half the printer at all times and only remove it when needed for large none PETG prints. I have different factory files for Simplify3D for the reduced print area for print head clearance.
@TimNeumann
@TimNeumann 3 года назад
It seem to use a duet 3D as controller - this is really cool to see, and gives a lot room to play with!
@madkvideo
@madkvideo 4 года назад
It just looks like the glass is trash. It should thicker, considering how expensive the printer is.
@ShadowJak
@ShadowJak 4 года назад
He should have known better. PETG isn't supposed to be printed directly on glass because it will fuse as it did in the video.
@3DPrintingNerd
@3DPrintingNerd 4 года назад
This is the first time I’ve had PETG fuse to glass in all the times I’ve printed with PETG on bare glass. I just wish I would have learned this sooner :)
@ShadowJak
@ShadowJak 4 года назад
@@3DPrintingNerd Are they going to send a new glass bed? It would be cool to see something gigantic being printed.
@JasonLooseArrowAlso
@JasonLooseArrowAlso 4 года назад
Wearing a mask below the nose is the same as not wearing a mask at all.
@BBSindex
@BBSindex 4 года назад
go for the record joel! may be fixing the glass before would be a nice idea :)
@OldCurmudgeon3DP
@OldCurmudgeon3DP 4 года назад
That filament path 😱 If the runout sensor let's the machine continue too long you'll have a mess of tangled filament covering the bed and possibly embedded in the part. Maybe consider a reverse bowden? I know I'm not thinking on the same level as the company who designed it though.
@joey1_
@joey1_ 4 года назад
Life sized Joel?
@ManIkWeet
@ManIkWeet 4 года назад
Fun fact, a mask doesn't work if you don't cover the nose!
@BlueCollarBachelor
@BlueCollarBachelor 4 года назад
You could have left off the last 6 words.
@davidnguyen6823
@davidnguyen6823 4 года назад
@@BlueCollarBachelor Your parent should've used french letters
@W0O0G
@W0O0G 4 года назад
The Reverend oh your one of those...right, copy.
@ManIkWeet
@ManIkWeet 4 года назад
@@BlueCollarBachelor There seems to be evidence that a mask does appear to have an effect in reducing the amount of potentially infectious droplets leaving from the wearer.
@BlueCollarBachelor
@BlueCollarBachelor 4 года назад
@@ManIkWeet theres evidence the other way too. It's a mess. Pick one and go with it.
@davidhollis8606
@davidhollis8606 3 года назад
I run a Fab Lab in Mississippi, We have an earlier version of this printer. We had the same issues with the glass bed breaking, We swapped it out with a metal bed.
@mgtworld
@mgtworld 4 года назад
how can a company put glass on a heated bed if heat affects the glass properties....for some reason glass makers let it cool down slowly for days....
@JamieStuff
@JamieStuff 4 года назад
It's borosilicate glass, aka Pyrex. You know, the stuff that you use in the oven. The temperature of the heated bed is a warm summer day to this stuff...
@mgtworld
@mgtworld 4 года назад
@@JamieStuff pyrex you know , does not break like that....
@5Komma5
@5Komma5 4 года назад
@Don why waist your time with a mask if you stick your nose out and/or take it off later? Makes you look stupid as you either don't understand the issue or want to pretend you care.
@throngcleaver
@throngcleaver 4 года назад
He's only wearing that mask because his company requires it. The wearing of masks does nearly nothing to prevent the spread of diseases, unless it's an actual N95 mask. In fact, there is evidence showing that wearing such masks increases the likelihood of spreading it, or for the wearer to contract it. There are several videos out there proving how ineffective masks really are. Google it.
@KeithOlson
@KeithOlson 3 года назад
With LuBan's sectioning and hollowing tools, you could print some *REALLY* big stuff with multiple sections nested inside each other!
@EngineeringSpareTime
@EngineeringSpareTime 4 года назад
Hey, that’s a good looking printer. Why does it not have an enclosure? I‘ve built one for my Prusa Mk3s based on aluminium extrusions (like the printer in the video) and it’s working great. You might like it :) Have you ever considered to build one for it?
@jmtissera
@jmtissera 4 года назад
@beginnerelectronics's pawn is the best troll ever for your printers. What about a huge King Kong's head/hand?
@TheZolon
@TheZolon 4 года назад
Years ago I made a foam version of that for the full sized growlers. :) And now I want to make one I can print.
@Jessterrr
@Jessterrr 3 года назад
I didn't really think about what could be printed on such a printer until I saw the Star Wars episode. I only just realized that you could print a pedal car body - like the pedal cars of the 60's for 3 year old kids. You could even print a replacement ride on vehicle body. Just imagine that your child says that they love a Ferrari, Camaro, Mustang, tank, or whatever. You could print the child the vehicle of their dreams to ride. Amazing stuff!
@ryandowney8743
@ryandowney8743 2 года назад
I love that all three axis are screw driven. Belts are so frustrating and I don't think they have as much accuracy.
@Kamikat86
@Kamikat86 4 года назад
Id love to see you win that world record this video was really fun
@passmoj
@passmoj 4 года назад
My guess was pretty close! That's an insanely huge machine. You have to try that rubber band rocket from fan mail Friday.
@MrGrago
@MrGrago 2 года назад
Printing a Recumbent tricycle SEAT, or Cargo box would be really nice Thanks for your information, to us the 3D newbies is most usefull
@peterinpensacola
@peterinpensacola 3 года назад
Good video, as always. I want to ask you for an opinion. I need a 3D printer that prints flexibles well. Specifically TPU 95A and Armadillo TPU which is 75D. We've tried a FlashForge Creator Pro with dismal results (won't even load 95A TPU, after a few filament swap cycles) and also have a Raise3D E2 which has clicking problems (followed by part failure) with either of the filaments above. What are great printers for TPU? Budget is $500 - $6000. And I don't need a 1m x 1m printer! 300mm x 300mm is fine. Thanks so much!
@g.h.c855
@g.h.c855 4 года назад
Have found the best way to stop PETG permanently bonding with the build plate is to simply print the first layer at a much lower temp. Works for me
@thebongmaster
@thebongmaster 4 года назад
getting a new glass bed would be a good start :v but some furniture would be interesting :3
@chueysteel
@chueysteel 4 года назад
You could print a full-size R2D2 with this machine. Tackle that one!
@CdoGtheGreat
@CdoGtheGreat 4 года назад
Joel print up a bunch of those car parts for spares and print them flat side down to make the layers go in the direction of breakage
@moderngeek7911
@moderngeek7911 3 года назад
I did the exact same thing printing PETG straight onto glass, it apparently breaks it down. I ended up filling it with body filler (like bondo), sanding it down, and covering with blue tape. I kept using that bed until it finally snapped in two one day while taking a part off. I print on kapton + a thin layer of wood glue dissolved in water now.
@hungryhungryhummer
@hungryhungryhummer Год назад
See if you can get a windshield repair kit or some type of resin to fill in where the glass broke. I can definitely be done and might work ok. Then print a giant benchy!
@Akya2120
@Akya2120 3 года назад
PETG does not need squish to stick like PLA or ABS. It would likely be beneficial to print on a raft and use an additional half of your extruder nozzle in Z height (or more) for the first layer. This is how I have printed on bare glass with minimal loss, but even doing this occasionally I have had PETG pull up slivers of glass. Using Kapton or even painters tape would help you save the glass, and with a pane that size I would definitely recommend it.
@oobasnork
@oobasnork 3 года назад
Those plexiglass discs remind me of how I used to poke holes in paper plates and put them on both sides of the terrible spools of ABS that I ran on my Solidoodle 2 back in 2014. That is the beefiest spool holder I've ever seen!
@Robothut
@Robothut 4 года назад
Is the heat bed in Zones ? Or does it heat the entire bed even if your only printing in a small section of it ?
@MaxPower_Designs
@MaxPower_Designs 3 года назад
We have a 3DP 400 series at work and i use it almost daily for prototyping purposes, when printing with PETG i always use washable glue stick on the glass for adhesion and ease of removal. When parts are stuck to the glass just spray glass cleaner and let it dissolve the glue bit by bit.
@keisan13
@keisan13 3 года назад
I would love to see furniture being printed on it! The storage solution possibilities of this makes my containter-lover heart sing! So cool!!!!!!!
@RonFloyd
@RonFloyd 4 года назад
Go for the record of course Joel! Bigger is ALWAYS better - LOL. Thanks bud.
@adisharr
@adisharr 4 года назад
Regarding the Y axis motors, they're using closed-loop servos instead of steppers. That's a good choice for a machine of this size as you're dragging around a lot of mass and the probability that you'll skip steps is high. There's no synchronizing between the Y axis motors though. They're just two separate motors working off the same step and direction signals.
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