I believe that the batteries can be replaced easily enough on the new MacBook Pros. There's no reason to "solder" them in. They attach with socketed cables. It has been reported that the batteries on the new MacBook Pros are actually easier to replace than on the previous Intel models. Apple have employed "pull strips" beneath the batteries to make them easier to remove. I did a complete battery replacement on my Intel MacBook Pro. It was not too difficult. The newer ones are even easier.
I looked at ASUS. There was one model I was interested in but it hasn't hit the market yet. I ended up ordering an M1max MacBook Pro 14" with 64 gigs of Ram and a 2T SSD. It's due to a arrive on 12/14/21 which will be over a month since I ordered it.
@@jimsullivanyoutube Do you use the macbook permanently booted as a windows machine? How's your experience with its performance? I've been thinking to do the same and work mainly on DaVinci.
@@niya5258 I love the M1max MacBook Pro 14". I'm glad I didn't get the 17". I've been using it mostly with Mac OS. However I recently installed Parallels Desktop but only to run a Windows version of Quicken. I haven't had it too long but it seems to run well. I haven't noticed any problems. It's like having two computers in one -- a Windows AND a Mac. I think DaVinci has a native Mac OS version that supposedly runs great on the M1 chip -- so I don't know why one would need to run Windows for DaVinci. But I haven't been using it because the free version only does 1080p and I don't like the database thing. I've been using Premiere Pro which isn't optimized for M1 yet but it's still fast. For example I don't have to use proxies. I tried Final Cut Pro and it runs super fast -- but I don't like the software. I don't like the way it's organized and the way some of the features work. Maybe it's because I've been using Premiere Pro for so long. Hope that helps.
@@jimsullivanyoutube Thank you so much, great to hear your experience. I've ordered the MBP 16" M1 Max but after waiting for 1.5 month, on the day of the delivery I received an email from Apple that the delivery date was updated for another 2 months. I need to edit 360 VR video 7168 x 3584. I've been a Premiere Pro user but I'm trying DaVinci as it's cheaper and has everything in one, editing, audio, effects and superb colour grading, but agree the database thing is a bit confusing. The issue with editing VR is that a few plug-ins developed by the community, simply don't run on MacOS. Also, by using an Oculus headset plugged into a windows machine, one can watch how the 360 video looks like while editing. In DaVinci is really easy to do that. Oculus and most headsets don't work on MacOS, still waiting for Apple to release their long-promised headset... So this is the reason of thinking to switch to PC but honestly these high end laptops are not that much cheaper than Macbooks!
Thanks so much for your continued videos Ben! Very helpful to compare these powerful machines. (Would love to see the M1 Max compared to different desktop setups, particularly slightly older ones as many people haven't been able to upgrade to the latest hardware due to the chip shortage.) Just a friendly note (and I apologize if others have noted it before and you just don't care): the Intel and Apple chips have silicon in them, not silicone. Silicone (ending sound: "own") is what you have at the end of your spatula. Silicon (ending sound: "un") is the element found in modern technology. You make great content and want to make sure you're presenting the best that you can.
Just having a trackpad with physical buttons these days is as revolutionary as the dial. Everybody is a saving a few pennies and leaving out the buttons which really hurts productivity. Sadly ASUS dropped the physical buttons from the current ProArt Studiobooks.
If you could at least swap the SSD and wifi module in the Macbook Pro it would be much better. I have the Macbook Pro M1 Max 32gb 1 tb and it is awesome but I am considering returning it and waiting for the a machine that is upgradable with 3070ti and Alder Lake or the new Ryzen chips. I keep my laptops for a long long time and the upgradability is going to be an issue most likely as time goes on. And I would like to use wifi 6e.
No, you can't use your macbook pro at 1000 nits at your will. In regular use its just a 500 nit panel, which is plenty bright. But 1000 nits and 1600 nits advertised peak is theoretical brightness Apple may go to when HDR video is detected. So, if you're someone who watches HDR videos sitting in bright light... Cool you MAY get your 1000 nits for some amount of time. Knowing Apple's misleading advertising, I still fell for this and got disappointed.
The cheapest (14") M1 Pro goes for 2500 CAD. The cheapest M1 Max (16") goes for 4400 CAD. Legion 5 (15") spec'd as in the video goes for 1750-2000 CAD & is better at gaming & 3D better than those two...
@@juap i just bought 12 16" for the engineers on my team who wanted one. and i enjoy my 13" for writing. my favorite apple product is their stock of which i own.... well let's just say a lot. it's not a great gaming platform. apple doesn't want to be. they want gaming to be ios style gaming. i'm talking metaverse gaming. cyberpunk 2077 style dense complicated interactive, ultimately procedural.
You are clearly an apple fanboy. How a pysical camera can be less safe than mac just because you believe apple is privacy focused company. This claim "apple is privacy focused company" is already ridiculus but when you have a malware how your apple will help?
If you're using CAD or any 3D software, stay well clear of the MacBook or any Apple products. Trash for the money when it comes to CAD. Also the Ryzen chip is hands down the winner.... especially for battery life and thermals
Lets see how the new M1 macs gonna perform when they optimize it for 3D work, hopefully in a couple of months (or maybe a year).. so far it beat everyone else in competition in other areas of creative work, so I am optimistic... I would say, its best to wait for M2 chip or the M1 Duo around the summer
M1 pro max and ultra performs very well with 3d but lack a couple Nvidia features some software use like Touchdesigner. Also unreal engine hasn't released m1 native yet but I'd expected to. But m1 performs very well otherwise. But yes if you're doing very serious 3d said then an Nvidia is there only solution.
@@m-stat9 Blenders not really CAD, not really what Im talking about...try running SolidWorks, Creo, NX, Catia etc on your M1 Pro. I also guarantee that I could spend the same amount you have spent on a M1 Pro in a windows laptop and destroy your benchmarks in Blender
I would suggest spec'ing to a weaker GPU for the proart. The A5000 (the workstation 3080m) is overkill for a laptop of this size. The lower wattage slim laptop GPUs have to run at isnt able to take full advantage of rtx mobile chips above a 3060m. For example, a 3070m has 33% more power in every way vs the rtx 3060m but only gets 18-20% more performance. Now add in the added heat and noise and I would suggest the "sweetspot" right now is the 3060.
The issue is from what I've seen you don't get so much granular control of each of those components with these. If you want more than 16gb of ram or more than 512gb of ssd, the only option comes with the 3080
@@attmlb You can install two m.2 SSD up to 4TB = 8TB total, and 64GB RAM. I've got ProArt just due to 3160x2400 281PPI OLED screen :D ... RTX 3080 16GB VRAM.
5:53 I can't help to think you looked like a stylized 3D animation character with the strong filter used on the MacBook webcam :) :) Anyways, Nice video and review, thank you.
Physical click buttons are so much better for animating/editing fast in software like After Effects and Blender. Clicking 'n' dragging and right and middle clicking consistently is so much easier when you have a tactile button. And having a clicky scroll wheel so I don't have to lug around a G-Hero mouse is so thoughtful. I hate the imprecision of trackpad scrolling, especially for timeline and stage zooming. The numpad really clinches it for shortcuts.
Do you have a Studiobook? I'm also thinking about it now, can you share your experience specially with regards to the battery backup, after effects and 3D modeling?
@@GregDeocampoogle I bought in Malaysia is about USD 2,255. I'm not sure US & Europe is currently available right now. and is also really limited stock worldwide.
@@thecompetitor4418 fortunately I'm few buyer who purchase as soon the day release in Malaysia market About USD 2,255 from one of the laptop supplier. and Asus officially just announced the price will start from 2,377. basically I save 5%
I am looking at the newer models of both of these Laptops, and it's so frustrating. I just want the dial from the asus, and VR friendliness of Windows to be on a laptop with the power and battery optimization of the Macbook
Had the m1 pro since launch (over a month now). I have Intel based software that “run” on Rosetta 2…but basically are unusable because the lag is so severe. If the software doesn’t get optimized, I might as well go back to an Intel computer….. because regardless of the “potential” these M1 chips have, if they can’t get the software optimized, it’s useless….
What a great review! I hope you'll keep these videos. Also yeah having 2023 version of this with MacBook Pro (M2 Pro) and StudioBook (H7604JI) would be a lot helpful for newer viewers. 💖
The MacBook display can’t just go to 1200 nits for the entire screen without 3rd party apps. Outside of HDR content the max brightness is 500 nits. 600 on the M3 series.
This has been my debate for a bit. Mix of video editing and ideally some gaming on off time while traveling. Looking at ProArt or maybe the ROG Zephyrus M16. Thoughts anyone?
I’d say if content creation is your main focus, the ProArt is better because of the additional “features” you’re getting, along with battery life. Definitely look out for the 2021 model for the ProArt, it’s a better deal than the 2022’s in my opinion. The 2021 models go for around $1200-$1600, while the M16 goes for around $2149.
If you're a gamer gets the Zephyrus, but if your picky about design and build go Pro Art. The best way to describe the Pro Art is a gaming laptop with a tuxedo on. It has similar internals to a gaming laptop but the feel and look of high end notebooks.
You should not spend that high on a laptop. Build yourself a true workstation customized to your own needs for the price of Macbook Pro. Portable laptops don't tend to last long due to integrated chip system. if one goes wrong, the entire rig is damaged. Get a under 1500 portable laptop, and don't waste on a portable device that last less than 4years. Get yourself a NVIDIA / AMD GPU and either Intel or AMD CPU. Apple made their silicon chips, so no one else but them can repair their own system. Don't support companies that think about themselves over their customers.
For $1199 get the Acer 17 inch powerhouse gamer, 1440p will kill anything Apple for things I do, running real, DEMANDING games. Intel Core i7 13700H (1.8GHz) 16GB DDR5 RAM NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Graphics Card 8GB VRAM 1TB SSD QHD LED-backlit IPS NVIDIA G-SYNC 165Hz Display DLSS3 with Nvidia exclusive AI-powered frame generation. RT better than anyone. Apple doesn't even know what AI/Tensor cores or RT or resizable BAR or Direct Storage are. DirectX 12 Ultimate and auto HDR.
Thanks Ben. Best review I've found for comparison so far, but it would be nice if it was the latest model. Still there's enough meat in this to know that since I want to do more video processing than anything else I'm better off going to the Macbook. I used to do a lot of CAD work, but really I won't be doing that any longer. I do like what ASUS is doing though.
Well, you can't access 1000 nits on the MBP unless you're displaying HDR content. SDR content maxes out at around 600 nits. Also, the battery on the MBP has pull tabs so you can replace it much more easily than with past MBPs.
True...except for HDR movies the screen, the macbook pro only gives 500 nits (tested on notebookcheck)...The Asus claims 550 nits for the OLED screen...
Yes, yes you can. Not many people know about this. You can set up a custom color profile and define the brightness, and it will display SDR content in that brightness up to 1000 nits. Small issue is that you can't quickly adjust brightness in this mode but it is perfectly doable.
Hi Ben, I'm a windows user. I kind of want to use a mac!! But I don't think I will use mac OS because of the way I feel that is different on it's usability well "transitioning". What is your suggestion on switching from windows to mac if you have never used mac is before? Could you do a video about it. Thanks
ASUS is cheap plastic crap compared to the all metal Mac- why do PC manufacturers insist on surrounding the keyboard in plastic? It’s not even in the same league as a Mac, sorry.
I am readapting to a more nomadic life, so nothing can beat the Macbook Battery that is a priority every time and not compromising on quality and efficiency and performance either. I will never turn to another laptop, Viva la Macbook!
How would you rate the fan noise of the Asus compared to other similar laptops, just for context? I have a great PC for working at home but when I need to go to the office, I'm looking for a powerful laptop that has a great, colour accurate screen and is great at multi-tasking. I've a 2017 MacBook Pro that is so loud even when looking at RU-vid, let alone any design work. It's unusable as the noise is really irritating. The noise would be the main selling point for me over performance as my sanity is more important than loading or rendering times.
Geekbench does not give intel and AMD credit for their double threads in multicore mode. Cinebench does, this makes a 30-40% reduction in their scores.
You actually expect RU-vidrs to be honest about an Apple product? They won't even mention all the class-action lawsuit filed against MacBooks: 1. cracked screens 2021 2. green screen 2020 3. connectivity 2019 4. thermal throttling 2018 5. key board 2017 And that is just in the last 5 years.
Hey Ben, I am little bit confused between Custom build PC vs MacBook M1 Pro. I thinking to build a Ryzen 7 3700x with 3060 Graphics Card. Plzz suggest me should I go with MacBook M1 pro or Custom build PC. I have MacBook Pro M1 but it's struggle in 4k editing, I use Premiere Pro. Plzz help me......plzzzz
The biggest problem with macbook is their STORAGE that is soldered on. So, if your laptop has some problems, you will have to give your entire machine including the storage to the repair guy. This is risking data leak. Incase of any windows laptop, you can just remove the ssd and keep it with you. Or you can simply insert the ssd in any other laptop/desktop and it will boot from it. Then you have all your data and software ready to use. This came very handy when one of my laptop had some issues, and I had to give it for repair. Even when you have backup of data and have encryption, when you have so many software configured to perfection, it is painful to move to a separate computer without all those already installed. Thus this gives a huge benefit. Another issue with the macbook is their lack of Hdmi2.1 ports. So, the maximum a mac can output is 4k60fps. Meanwhile, we already have monitors and tvs with 4k 120fps and 8k 60fps. And in the future there will be more and more such displays which macbook won't be compatible with. Thunderbolt also cannot do these.
Anyone happen to know if the ProArt StudioBook Pro 16 with 5900HX + 3070 and QHD 120hz display is both 100% DCI-P3 and 100% Adobe RGB? Asking because I came across one resource that indicated it's the latter, and I've seen references to one model (OLED?) suggesting it has BOTH. I'm looking for 100% Adobe RGB, if also 100% DCI-P3 that's a bonus.
@@russjam i think it's too loud to be useable. i think too many youtube reviewers are actually sales people and don't tell you the real deal about the device. YES, it's powerful. But too loud to be useful imo.
Yeah but keep in mind those cheap gaming laptop has terrible battery and need to be plugged in most of the time, and as time goes on, you wont even be able to use it for more than 90minutes without it being plugged in. If you want to compare the 3149 CAD Apple stuff with windows stuff, you should probably compare it with enterprise grade laptop.
I use a 2018 MacBook Pro to edit 4K ProRes RAW over Thunderbolt 3 off a QNAP RAID 5 NAS - once I convert to CinemaDNG - I wonder what my performance would be over Thunderbolt 4 ? I heard it’s backwards compatible… does the Ryzen NOT support Thunderbolt while the Intel does???
Because Thunderbolt 4 (differently than USB 4.0) is 'Intel invention' - this is pushing PCIe lanes through cable man! You can basically have things directly connecting to CPU PCIe - it is probably possible to licence it from Intel (like Apple did) but otherwise it is proprietary - however the connector 'is not' proprietary. Also TB4 can push USB4.0 but not necessarily other way round.
Great review. Both excellent computers in terms of build and features for creatives. It think it comes down to whether you prefer a dedicated graphics card or what Apple does with integrated GPU. For music I'd go Apple all the way. For Video, while both can do the job I might still go for the Asus. In terms of speed, memory, software, etc. both computers are monsters. For all the amazing work Apple have done with the new M1 chips, and I do think it's stunning what they have started, I am not sold on their integrated GPU. It's definitely WAY BETTER that integrated GPUs with Intel and AMD chips, but are they on the level of high-end Nvidia graphics cards? I'm not so sure. Will they eventually get there? Most likely, but I feel like they still need to allow for a dedicated card to be installed if desired. On just about all other fronts the M1 macs have opened the eyes of a lot of people. Speed, power, yet longer battery life while running cooler using less wattage. At some point Intel and AMD will need to address over heating and loud fans, not to mention better battery life and not losing power when the power brick is unplugged. So Apple is close, and for a lot of creatives the 14inch MacBook Pro with M1 Pro chip will be the sweet spot. It's a darn near perfect machine minus a few things here and there.
Dedicated graphics will kill battery life my man. You are still thinking of the old computing paradigm. It’s so 1990s. It’s 2021 buddy, the world is starting to wake up to the fact that most people don’t need dedicated graphics. What people want is performance/watt so they can have a workstation running on batteries without sounding like a jet engine. Time to move on
@RunForPeace 2020 yes, most people dont need dedicated cards. Instead, they need a laptop which costs thousands of dollars and not have that dedicated gpu 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@kalimullah823 you know in time the cost will come down. Mbp performance will costs the price of MBA in due time. MacBook Air costs $899 on sale atm. Tell me which igpu have the same performance as m1 MBA? Thousands of dollars?!? What have you been smoking? I know you like to hate but maybe think beyond your tiny brain and have an open mind. Maybe you just like to buy a very long cord and never move your laptop away from the wall plug but that’s on you. Let others enjoy their … laptop … so they can use their laptop on their lap and away from the wall socket.
@RunForPeace 2020 the item in discussion here is macbook pro m1. And its base model costs around 2.5 thousand ... which is plural, i.e thousands... Isnt it? And how is a macbook air gonna solve the dedicated gpu need?
@RunForPeace 2020 and you want people to wait till MBP costs around 900 dollars?... and i aint no hater. I own an MBP 14". I just aint a fangirl . I can call a spade a spade.
i dont think its the best idea to pack OLED in notebooks. the studio and vivobook pro x lineups look great, but those displays definetly will face burn ins one day. asus recommands to auto hide the taskbar (even in windows 11 it is not smooth at all) and pixel shift seems kinda annoying and noticeable. too many compromises, sadly
@@Tigerex966 do you watch hdr movies all day? 🤣 You are creating some fantasy scenarios There’s a reason why apple made their screen with high nits only on hdr content (in the specific part of the screen that is showing hdr content). Specifically designed for content creators and movie watchers Other manufacturers will never be able to do that, hence they will always have burn issues.
@@Tigerex966 your perspective is a flawed perspective without providing the complete picture. Highly misleading in giving people the wrong impression that burnin issue is a real problem on Apple mini led display, which is factually untrue. Perhaps on other led/miniled display it’s possible, but highly unlikely on apple mini led unless someone purposely abuse the display to make it an issue.
Nah burn in isn’t even an issue anymore. And no, you can’t notice pixel shift with general usage. By the time burn in occurs (if it does) the laptop would be obsolete anyway.
Oh how could you jump right over the screens! That's my main selling point in finding something better than the "xdr". Proart has everything from a 2.5k oled, to a apparently 'pretty great' stereoscopic 3d oled, to a 4k 120hz oled. They're FAR BETTER in the dark thanks to ASUS having some of the first 'HDR True Black' certification for screens in laptops. While 1000 nits is better for bright environments, there is no comparison in mid-low to no light environments. HDR True Black 400 and 600 focus on the color and detail that's lost in all that inky blackness that an OLED brings. Suddenly you can see the detail in a dark scene. Ever watch something on Netflix and the 'scary' or 'mysterious' scene was just a mess of dark grey and brown splotches? This will show you the world at night. 1000 nits is just a ridiculous figure and a benchmark they go for to sell screens. It's outright painful to watch a dark background with bright lights at 1000, it's almost like looking at headlights or a nice flashlight at night. Sustained 600 nits is what people don't know they actually want. Peak 1000 nits is useless unless you're watching sunsets on your screen in the mid-day sun of Jamaican beaches. The color accuracy is totally unknown between these screens. ASUS just goes for the standard color gamut.
Hi! I am just looking for a laptop with the best screen! I have two in mind which are available in my country..one is the asus vivobook 16 pro with 3.2k 120hz oled and other is asus flow x16 with a mini led...can you suggest me which one will have a better screen quality?
Silicone vs. Silicon are 2 very different things. Apple does not use Silicone in their machines but their system on chip is built from Silicon wafers produced by TSMC. There is no such thing as a computer with Apple Silicone, unless you find a Mac Mini that has a body enhancement. 🤣🤣🤣
The MacBook Pro has a custom ARM design chip, custom purpose-specific cores, custom GPU design, new advanced speaker and microphone system, the best trackpad (as always), the best monitor regarding nits and color accuracy and at 120hz, and so on. It's also lighter by 300 grams, and has a battery that lasts far longer (2 to 5 times as much!). It also has better performance (up to double). Plus it's made from metal. What's the "technical innovation" on the Asus? The dial?
Apple nails it on hardware point. But it lacks on software/apps ecosystem availability. Price wise they should be affordable. If they are moving to services based revenue then they need lower hardware prices. Mass adoption will lead to more services revenue. That's where windows kills them
@@mrppsr4731 macos have the best apps and os, and companies are eager to port their apps to arm, and the ecosystem is neat when using apple products, I like having 0 bloatware in my machine, and I don't have to pay for any service to use my machine fully
There is a version of the ProArt 16 that has 5900hx, 64gb RAM, 3070 8GB, 100% DCI-P3 16:10 aspect ratio 120hz, 2TB (2x1TB in RAID) for $2399. $3499 M1 Max has half the RAM, half the SSD, 3050ti/3060 mobile level graphics on average. Where it outdoes the aforementioned config of ProArt 16: will likely run cooler and quieter, will have longer battery life (although if you give the M1 Max a max workload and run it non-stop at that workload, it would only last about 1.5 hrs. Medium workloads, it may go 5 hours. This will probably be better than what the ProArt 16 can do. For video playback and web browsing, you may be able to get around 8 hours with ProArt 16, and maybe 10 hours on M1 Max, no matter what Apple claims. For video editing professionals or musicians, those who value and have a proven need for full performance unplugged and they are on the go and away from a power outlet enough of the time, they may value the M1 Max for the quieter, cooler and somewhat longer battery life under moderate to heavy loads, especially if they do not wish to spend time optimizing and configuring Windows or Linux to get the ProArt 16 running like butter. They just want something they can turn on, install apps and get to it. If you want x86 virtualization, gaming, 3d rendering and other workloads that the M1 Max may not have purpose built accelerators to be most performant, and/or if you want to work with 100% Adobe RGB color space, the ability the replace the battery, RAM, upgrade dual NVME drives, then the ProArt 16 is for you. the savings is also considerable.
ofc there had to be at least 1 fanboy comment ^^ This comparission is more than fair especially since it points out the flaws and pros of both products. It also displays in what use cases which device will be better for different customers. Legit, I have no idea how people can make comments like this under videos that are sp ectremly objective like this one.