i don’t trust male feminists - and you shouldn’t either 

WHAT???? that's so shameless, oh my god... who even was that?

Andrew Dworkin

All women should read radical feminist theory. Andrea Dworkin's work is still relevant to this day

(Andrea Dworkin was the one who said that)

Simone de Beauvoir 🤌🏼 💕

Wow

😮 that sounds so dangerous! I'm glad you're out! please stay safe!! ❤

I believe over 70% of men are narcs of have narc traits.

We can't diagnose NPD, but we can recognize narcissistic traits. Wish people would stop gaslighting victims of such people. "Oh you can't diagnose someone". Tell that to my trauma, Susan. P.S. This isn't directed at you. I'm just sad you have to add the diagnosis disclaimer.

Holy Shit, I'm so sorry you had to go through that. Stay Safe love

I actually do believe that the majority of men are narcissists. Idc what anyone says, they're way more common than people think

I am not a male feminist I admit I won’t lie saying that I am a feminist cause in reality I am anti feminist

Real feminists don't need to go around bragging about it.

Wow if it isn’t a man looking for approval for doing below the bear minimum because no is the default setting when it comes to intimacy the same way no is the default setting when it comes to giving their life savings or even just a dollar to someone else unless agreed upon earlier. Marriage is not an agreement to intimacy at any point in time during. There are actually good or decent men out there who wouldn’t brag about not traumatizing a woman like that for life.

@@laurennelson3918 I don’t need no approval from anyone

This reminds me of how angry my ex got about not being invited to my GIRLS trip. He stonewalled me for days and when I told him he hurt my feelings after purposefully forgetting the discussion of why he shouldn’t attend the GIRLS TRIP, he told me my feelings weren’t valid. 🙃But when he hung out with his boys (who are cheaters) and he ignored me for the whole entire day, it was fine. 😅

@@jujubee2903not a keeper ☠️☠️☠️

Absolutely. We need woman only echo chambers.

​@@georgev8590 absolutely! women and children NEED to live without their oppressors. especially teenagers and mothers!

This whole situation, for "both sides", is cringe

I’m sorry that happened to you, hun. ❤ These weirdos can be completely insane sometimes. I hope you are in a space of healing and finding peace.

❤❤❤ bless you

Isn’t it enraging? I’ve experienced something more or less the same

It is disgusting. Thank you for sharing your story and spread awareness. I hope you’re doing well. Take care love you are worth it!❤

Omg I’m so sorry for what happened to you. I hope your healing and that you received justice❤

Bubbe had her priorities in order 🙏

Grandma was smart

I've recently been embracing what I'm calling Grandma Energy - being tidy, organised, having my business in order, enjoying cosy hobbies, growing my own food, cooking from scratch, doing crafts with neighbours and taking absolutely no nonsense from men especially ones who are inappropriate and disrespectful. Grandmas have their priorities straight.

@@katec9893 Yeeees, SPOILED GRANNY GIRLIE its a mood in 2024

People need to let go of this idea that relationships aren’t transactional. There’s give and take with everything!

what's wrong with being spoiled?

​@@Vindicador01Dream on.

​@@ShaiLaiBeing spoiled can lead to entitlement. But being wealthy or investing in self-care is completely different.

Feminists can be spoiled too

@@ShaiLai in a perfect world there’s no patriarchy that you can capitalize on

🤣😂🤣Pick-Michaels! I’ve never heard it put that way before but I think I’ll borrow that one from you 🤣😂🤣

😂😂😂👌💯 You win the internet today with the "pick Michaels". From today on, I'll call fem-men just that.

Pick Michaels is wild 🤣🤣

Pick Michaels 💀💀💀Okay I'm borrowing that

I was a pick Michael 😂😂😂 So freaking thankful for all these comments and content

@@stardust332womp womp

Hahaha

And : they are visual creatures but they can't see mess / dishes / laundry/ their wife's new hair etc 😄

Funny, most women can’t do the same load of physical labor as men, but when I see road crews, the person holding the sign is often a woman. There are plenty of women in blue collar fields, just as there are plenty of differently abled people who can work with accommodations, or in areas that match up to their abilities. It sounds like none of the men on that panel had any job experience in manual labor. There are many areas in those jobs that don’t require strength. I would argue the main reason there arent as many women in manual labor is that we go to college, and chose different, often better paying jobs fields of work.

Idk I'm a woman and I work a hard manual labour job, that I love and am perfectly capable of

@@MyDuckSaysFucc I agree about the "sexually available" part. That's exactly what I've always thought. "Feminist" men are always the most sadistic types in bed.

That’s why I don’t believe that sex work is empowering for all women. It’s just giving them what they want with extra steps.

@@Elisabetta886 Feminism is great for men when they can benefit from it. But as far as women getting things all on their own, and all for themselves, that’s the part that makes their eyes twitch. Like the main argument is always saying that men have to go to war when it’s like “Baby, when was the last time someone told YOU to go to war?”

👏👏👏

she was so ahead of her time, especially about p0rnography and leftist males.

​@@kenshinrurouni3784A commenter didn't give credit, not this channel.

@@Robin-kp1jgwomp womp. Get outta here with your purity shit. No one can pass it. Manifestelle is giving tangible, applicable life advice, what’re y’all giving women? Armchair philosophy bullshit. Can’t even be happy that Andrea’s ideas are getting out there.

@@Robin-kp1jg Really? It seemed like you were just shitting on manifestelle.

Funny thing, if you say that out loud, men will call you heartless or whatever. How dare you think about having a balanced relationship and not giving everything you have for free to a man in the name of love. 😂

@@kirin2560 They have the audacity to say so when they're so fucking shameless AND heartless most of the time

@@andrzejdobrowolski9523 Need a tissue?

girl the manipulation 😂

That's why I would never call myself a feminist. People have the strangest opinions on what feminism actually means 😅

That's a lot of words for "Pay for meee and treat meee like a princesssss!!!!" -- a lot of these "feminist" men are insanely feminine and want you to take the male role in the relationship.

Yes! He's saying that for his own benefit, not because he actually believes in equality for women.

Just say you’re broke and looking for a woman to pay your way and get out of my face.

Exactly!!! You said in a way I couldn't, and you made it sound so easy. Lol. I know tons of great people, but the ones overfocused on being male feminists and voicing it aaaaall the time... Those are weird as hell.

I rarely call myself a feminist for this reason, I don't like the performativity of it

@@jordanjohnson9866 are you a bot or a man? either way, what?

Yeah

couldn’t agree more:)))

I agree i've seen some of them go from being mysoginistic and very anti woman to very anti man suddenly too after they got busted for a crime. It's the same principal as a pick me advocating for a bunch of conservative men and hating on her own gender. It doesn't really fit there style and personality so it's bound to stick out. Both are suspicious I agree because they have a different motive in mind when they switch there demeanors like that some of them are bi polar too and my shrink told me I wouldn't be a good match for someone like this because they would always be picking fights with me and changing there mind. If you call them out for it the blame will immediately be shifted back onto you and they will try to make you look like the crazy one for choosing them as if they didn't have a choice too they did for example I've heard some of these narcissists say, "women commit crimes and kill people too and that's why they go postal more often because he was triggered she was either wearing the wrong outfit or she didn't want to go on a date with them.. that or she did go on a date with him but she slept with him to soon or she cheated on him or dumped him for another man and that's why he killed them. It's there way of taking the focus off what they just did wrong to break the law by not taking any accountability for what they did so naturally they will try to cover it up by saying there being accused or they will change the subject and tell you that your just being too emotional about this and that not all men kill people. Everyone knows that but the goal is to get this to stop happening all together not keep shifting the blame back on other people. Just because everything in life goes both ways doesn't mean people should just keep killing people for absolutely no real reason at all because it won't solve the problem in front of you the only way for people to solve it is to not break the law anymore and for people to start acting right and seeking mental health treatment for there addictions so it's not rocket science and I'm not sure why every year these individuals need a mass shooting or some kind of armed robbery just because there afraid of not being remembered. Think about it I could understand once in the blue moon this happening but this is every other year an event like this happens were a man goes on a mass shooting it's like the elephant in the room that Nobody wants to talk about and instead of addressing it like it's a serious problem it's become some sort of manly tradition for them to go out with a bang and make a fool out all there loved one's on national TV. Then everyone just has to keep sweeping it under the rug as if it never even happened so other men don't feel embarrassed. Then they have the audacity to wonder why 80 percent of women recently initiated a divorce because it's hard to trust people anymore even if you've known them for years. If that many men think this way about their communities it's not safe to choose better if they won't choose to be better men. They just want to destroy everything they built like some kind of child throwing a temper tantrum when he doesn't get his way. It's not healthy it's concerning and the government should address it they don't just need to pull these men off the streets and give them housing they need to have some time to themselves so they can rebuild and heal and women can't just keep trying to hold there hands and do everything for them because there not children. The only way to actually save them is to decenter them and let a professional help them heal not a wife, prostitute or a gf. Women are supposed to be like rewards for men that actually love women and work hard to protect there communities they shouldn't just have one because they feel owed. I want a sports car too but it doesn't mean I'll get one unless I put on the work to save for it.

I think my ex at the beginning agreed to equal rights for everyone blah blah blah. Not long before I left him he told me they were equal now and so it's not needed. Meanwhile I'm in the throws of motherhood doing ALL the traditional female roles I didn't sign up for no help for.

This reminds me of a guy with whom i went on three dates. He was very sweet in the beginning, but gradually getting hornier and less and less sweet. He said that he is feminine and he takes it as a compliment, because he doesn't like traditionally masculine men and he would shit on them often. He was really cheap, never paid for me, was performing chivalrous acts but only during first date and i think he was lying about some things. Eventually, i have discovered manipulative and gaslighting tendencies. Possibly superiority complex, but also cowardice. And he seemed so sweet in the beginning. It was giving "I am not like other girls" in a male version. It kinda seems like covert narcissism to me. His dad is passive-aggressive and his brother is a grandiose narcissist who bullied him growing up. He said he only keeps in touch with his mom and his sister. He is not a first guy i have met from such family system who displayed covert and vulnerable narcissistic tendencies. Part of me hopes he is not a bad person, he just learned some bad habits... but it in the end it doesn't matter, does it?

❤❤❤

Nice guys

They’re always the first to try and do violent things in the bedroom because “isn’t it liberating?”

Might be an unpopular opinion, but this includes gay feminist men, too. Some of them low key hate women.

@@andregustavolr2k22 are you a spoiled girlie?

@@andregustavolr2k22 are you slow? Watch the video and maybe it won’t go over your head this time

I'd rather just own my own vehicle and be independent.

I'd rather be treated like a classic car from the 50s through the 70s

Go girl 💜

​@@goddess_Kateyou made my day 🥺♥️

Awesome! I don't even know you, but I'm so happy for you! Sending love from the U.S.A 💕

Please choose a high earning career and don't give bad men any chance

I have studied and lived in Morocco so I'm a little (lot) aware of the situation over there. Please, keep up the good work. Get that bag and be happy ! You are young and if you are on this page, you are learning valuable info. Good luck in life.

you're lucky to be exposed to this kind of content that young, I was such a pickme at 17 💀

You definitely are.

same, i’m also 17 but i discovered this kind of content around 16 so i’m also really grateful

You really are!

Yup. Exactly.

Yess!! I'll definitely buy it.

WE WANT A HANDBOOK!

I need a book from Elle. In the same genre, there is "Ashy men will make you fat" from BurbNBougie, a content creator that is woman-centered. If you love Manifestelle, there is a high cance that you'll love BurbNBougie too.

@@rokiashnell5871 I don't know that!! That's a great recommendation, thank you. I was reading Shera sevens books, they also fit in this genre pretty well hehe

Your opinion hav to be sensible logical Even feminist MEN don't like illogical opinions

Usually that happens becausr of the steriotypes feminists carry. My dad never proclaimed hate over feminists, but didn't like when I started to study about it. But at the same time, he: pais my mom's college so she could fulfill her dream cause her father stopped paying her college to punish her for marrying my dad. He also raised me at young age to study, have a fullfilling career, advised me to be always financially independent and never rely on a man. (He as a doctor dealt with a lot of marital rape cases). If that's not a feminist guy, idk what it is. And he never had to read tons of feminist books or use t-shirts for that. 😅

Perhaps he doesn't know the actual definition of feminism or what a feminist is? Maybe he's bought into what people say it is. People are completely misusing the word "feminist/feminism". If he hates feminists, he hates women who believe that you should have social, economic, and political rights.

​@@AnnaGrace603 ​I'm sorry that you had gone through that, I'm really glad that you were able to find your strength 💙when I first met my ex it was online and I was one week from being 16 & he was 28, and at the time I just wanted one person in the world to love me in my life. But little did I know, he was a wolf in sheep's clothing. He wasted my time & my youth, and he knew the entire time that I was being abused by my narcissistic parents but he still never once got a job in the 10 years that I knew him, even though every single day he kept telling me that I was "his soul mate that he loved more than anybody & no other man could ever love me as much as he could." He kept using his walking disability as an excuse on why he couldn't get a job, but he could still walk around 95% just fine though he just needed a cane. He still could of found a computer job or a desk job, but he still kept making so many excuses. People who threaten you saying that they'll unalive themselves if you don't stay with them don't truly love you, if they truly love you they'd want what's best for you. He was truly in his "divine feminine energy" cause I asked what he'd do since I'd be the one earning money in our relationship, and he wanted to be a "house dad" and give me 2-3 kids. Thank the Universe I never continued his dusty lineage of poverty and suffering. He said that he'd "look after me & the kids", but how? you can't even be quick on your feet to bend down with a cane easily to pick up a baby/toddler. But I try not to dwell on it anymore, it's just a cautionary tale I hope that inspires the younger ladies especially. Right now I'm too distracted from living my best life, having fun, spoiling myself and educating myself. I learned that "love" is not enough, which I remember Manifestelle mentioning before too in one of her vids. Cause true love isn't just "words", it's also "action" and to distract me from becoming my best-self.. literally crying if I didn't spend 6-8 every hours with him every single night was selfish of him. And the "gold digger" gaslighting from all of my past "male friends", made me continue to go down a path of poverty & suffering. So I've learned now that male friendships, unless it benefits you financially aren't worth it imo. 9/10 my male friends (all poor dusties or 'King baby' alpha podcast bros) would "fall in love with me", so none were quality men that would actually be able to protect me. I had learn to protect myself. And I did date a rich one too once, but then he became an "Tate-stan" and literally told me that he wanted a "new gf every single week" so yeah, rich guys can be toxic also & he was a cheapskate towards me too. He made 400k a year, and literally only got me a single cupcake for my b'day, no other gift 😅even though I helped him find a new job, comforted him cause he had depression, made appointments for him, cooked, cleaned, gave my body, ect. being the Source that I am, but he was still 100% ungrateful for. But I know that I deserve so much more, I have been so kind and giving but now it's for myself & for people who actually deserve it in my eyes. Not for users, not for abusers, hobosexuals, fake male Feminists or for dusties. It's for fellow kind & generous people, people who genuinely treat me well, serious potential partners who are quality men only and for true female friends who got my back. Now all of my ex male friends wonder why the women in their lives have all left them and it's literally made them aggressive/full of anguish, but I believe they do know why but they just refuse to change for the better because they are all super lazy.

Good for you Enjoy your freedom Girlpower 💃💃💃

Get that bag bestie!

Get rid of male friends like seriously. Even the gay ones because they see you as some weird competition. Surround yourself with like-minded girls

@@Laura-Yu yah, I learned the hard way that I could never be "one of the boys" 😅 in their eyes they will always see me as a s3xual object, someone if they can take to bed they can brag to all of their male friends. I only had male friends cause, I was playing in a VR online shooter esports tournament.. and literally only 4 other ladies who played at the time when I'd play regularly, out of 1000's of players. But we also played during different timezones, so I almost never saw them. But my interests have changed now, I'm no longer keen on regular online gaming, especially with the amount of toxicity going on with male gamers now with the male loneliness epidemic, I'm focusing on my career and getting my bag, aha if I ever play it's once every 2-3 weeks, but a solo game

idk online dating is giving me depressing vibes. Downloaded okcupid few days ago and will delete my profile today.

You don't "trust" conservative men, you trust your own judgement when you have more information to go by. Be very careful trusting conservative men, they are deeply misogynistic and have massive institutions like organised religion backing them up.

Exactly. You know exactly what they expect and where they stand. Especially the ones were still staunchly conservative. Liberal men tend to be more of a slip and slide based upon the day and the situation. They are the ones who want to see you succeed, but not to be better than them. They are the ones that wants you to get everything you want and deserve in the room of your space without impeding on their own. They are the ones who are in silent competition with you and will, at times, rely on their traditional patriarchal upbringing to sling mud on your name, to get what they want, and call it fair. Conservative men say, get out, stay out and stay in your lane.

Um….that’s still settling for mediocrity

@@Blue_Azure101 I never said I date them or settle for them. In general in my day to day life I feel safer. It’s like the feminist theory states “conservative men think women are private property, liberal men think women are public property.” I know a conservative man’s intentions. I can swerve and avoid them better. Liberal men like to put on an act so you feel safe, then try to take advantage of you.

Better to trust no humans

They wrote an entire Bible around it.

@@brunoqnzbk7891they actually stole the bible and other patriarchal books from the first African women who walked this Earth. Read the Sybil’s & The Cosmic Mother.

The hypocrisy is so crazy and what’s worse is you 100% don’t see it💀men and women are lost.

Honestly very few men refute this statement with any honestly

If you need a guy to provide for you, then by definition, both of you aren't feminists, just saying.

@srizangupta1957 material reality is one thing, what I think would be ideal is another. We do want to have children in the future. Children make men get raises more easily, children make women less employable. It's easier that way. Probably, I shouldn't have used the word "need" in there. Also, I don't think feminism is about having to provide for oneself. I personally wouldn't want to go 50/50 with a man, and if I have a child with someone, I expect that person to provide.

@@srizangupta1957 I can fight for equality, to get more maternity leave, for measures to diminish discrimination based on gender. I can do all of that and still choose as a couple for him to be the provider.

Yeah those “true” feminist men do exist. I’m glad you found one 💞

This is the comment i was looking for

The worst kind I've seen are the ones that only love equality when it comes to hitting people. "Equal Rights, Equal Fights" they'd say. It's just another way to say they wanna hit women.

Never do 50/50, specially if you barely eat or drink. Pay what you consumed, which is way less than 50% of the total. I've never used dating apps. The boyfriends I had were my friends first. Also every time we went outside, I broght my own food and/or drinks and always refused going to eat outside. Cause I only like homemade food. And the food from restaurants, bars and cafeterias is disgusting and makes me sick lol.

If makes you feel any better, the day this chann starts to bother these people, it is because it made it's job properly. I don't agree with everything she says, but her job is incredible. But I get your concern. It is horrible to lose a safe space at this super mysoginistic internet/world.

They can't do anything to you on the internet.If they come here is because they want women's attention.I want this channel to become super popular so that more women learn.We cannot turn the tide until enough women realized that they have been duped by this "feminism" version that is popular.

same

I agree! I was raised in a 2nd wave feminist household and and I enjoy seeing a different perspective. I don't agree with everything on here but she's 100% right about fake feminist men using feminism as a tactic to get laid.

Im sorry, but “trauma”?? My mom worked as a software developer for years in a company started by a woman developer. I’ve never heard my mom complain about anything that was misogynistic much less traumatic

​@@Marloelizabeth.-. "i haven't encountered it, so it's not real, also world hunger doesn't exist because I just ate"

I'm FtM, but even after transition I wouldn't feel comfortable in a workspace like that. Nerdy dudes are the worst, sometimes. All power to ya.

I work with nearly all men, only men directly. None are like tech bros and thankfully I got old and fat but it is still a lot of male energy. I couldn't imagine also coming home and having a man there.

💀 This! I'm starting a game just playing along with these guys until I slowly disagree. (for my safety, it's always online.) Then I keep disagreeing. Just saying, many of them lose their whole mind on the first no and start insulting right away. But I say more than three lines together and i'm "emotional" apparently. 😂😅

​@@annabourbonthe amount of men who get so emotional about women being emotional is hilarious when it is not straight up terrifying

I think we already know lol

Umm, they might be addicted and if they see the problem and get off of porn then that's okay I guess, otherwise this can easily become very harmful to the relationship

YES THIS TOPIC WOULD BE SO INTERESTING!

If they watch porn and avoid sex with their couples, they are narcissists for sure.

@@idunablack2592 that’s the thing, most of them are addicted and can’t just stop. My ex lied to me for years and watched it behind my back

I'm a feminine feminist

​@@charmaineespeut4627Im a divine feminine-masculine hardcore feminist

I am a being of love & light, which also has a badass protective shadow-self 😄

I like trains

I'm so feminist I don't date men lol

I think there is something fundamentally wrong with behaving as though gender equality exists when it does not. Which is how a lot of “feminists” operate. And I am a staunch feminist myself, I just think there is too much convolusion when it comes to defining what that actually means. We can fight for gender equality while still acknowledging that we have to take care of ourselves and find ways to survive and thrive in a social structure meant to keep us oppressed. And that means demanding the men we date and marry to go above and beyond to correct that power imbalance. That means, while we fight for equality externally in the world, the man should be taking care of us at home. Doing what he can to ease our load, be it paying the bills or whatever else that he can realistically do to PROVIDE. If he financially cannot take care of you (which I don’t totally blame men for in this economy tbh so it is more meaningful to me that my male partner is a HARD WORKER and GENEROUS regardless of income) there are other ways he can provide for you and take care of you. Because we as women are a disadvantaged population, which means that men inherently benefit (aka gain advantage) from our oppression. So they need to pay some of that back to us.

Yeah i think i need to stop engaging. It doesnt bring anything positive to my life. It just make me angry. Unless im providing useful information or agreeing...i think ill stop.