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I drove an EV from Scotland to England in winter.....here's how it went. 

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Whilst we don't normally believe everything we see or read about how electric cars can't do long trips, we did feel it was time to redress the balance a little. As many people might have guessed from his indecipherable accent, Bryan originally hails from Scotland. Yet for the past 25 years he has lived in the South of England and regularly makes the trip north to visit his family. In this extra bonus Christmas episode, he set out to see just how easy (or not) it is to drive an EV over 300 miles in winter from Scotland to the south of England to try and dispel a few myths. How did he get on? Time to find out.....
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@DefinitelyNotAGuru
@DefinitelyNotAGuru 4 месяца назад
Glad I’m not the only one trying to add some balance to counteract some of the BS. Great video 👍
@jimmyh6601
@jimmyh6601 4 месяца назад
The oil lobby is in panic mode and spreading misinformation.
@willduo1
@willduo1 4 месяца назад
Good and informative video. I went to North Berwick in Scotland from North Wiltshire…over 400 miles in a very busy August in my Megane. It was almost impossible to travel much more than 65 mph on the motorways because it was so busy. As a result we decided to take our time and cruise at just over 60 mph. We averaged over 3.8 miles per kWh both ways. We did two recharge stops each way which was quite impressive. Range was about 240 miles. The Megane as you say is really comfortable quiet and relaxing to drive.
@owrang9756
@owrang9756 4 месяца назад
I agree why drive an EV as he did at 74mph with the heater on consistently which will kill the range.
@moragkerr9577
@moragkerr9577 4 месяца назад
@@owrang9756 Because he wants to?
@OverlandExpedition
@OverlandExpedition 4 месяца назад
@@owrang9756Jeez imagine wanting to drive at 70 mph with the heater on, what is wrong with that man 😂😂🤡🤡
@standupmoto
@standupmoto 4 месяца назад
I’m a motorcycle reviewer in Australia thinking of getting an EV, it was nice to see a real world example of a reasonably long journey in an EV, in particular the one I’m considering. We have as you would imagine have a lot of long distance driving here, our main problem is the lack of charging infrastructure. However with some planning prior to hitting the road it’s do’able (if that’s a word). The point you make about stopping one or two times more often than if you were maybe in an ice vehicle in very interesting, one of the biggest contributors to road crashes in Australia is lack of concentration & tiredness on country roads. An extra stop or two is probably a good thing, have a stretch, a cuppa etc and just wake yourself up a bit before continuing on your journey. It was also nice to see a video with no drag racing or talking about how it handles at 80mph through 90 degrees banked turns etc or 15 minutes talking about the sat nav system with ten thousand features (if you get my drift) Well done.👍
@moragkerr9577
@moragkerr9577 4 месяца назад
One thing I didn't expect about getting an EV is that I'm arriving at my destination fresh as a daisy! I used to do 430 miles from Sussex to central Scotland as fast as my XR2 or my Peugeot 306 GTi could cover the ground, stopping just once for five minutes to get the petrol in. It was tiring, unsurprisingly, but I could do it. These trips stopped, but as I got older I noticed that long drives were making me more and more tired. I would drive 200 miles to friends in Yorkshire and be fairly knackered. Even a round trip of 100 miles to the theatre or 80 miles to the cinema (both quite frequent) would leave me moderately shattered. Then I got my MG4. I'm getting in from these same trips feeling as if I've just been down the corner shop. I even did the Scotland-Sussex trip in reverse in the summer and got to Brighton with no sensation of fatigue at all. It's probably a combination of being forced to take sensible rest breaks, not riding a piston engine (which I think in itself is tiring) and having adaptive cruise control - I never had a cruise control of any sort before this car. But it's so striking I'm seriously wondering if ICE cars are bleeding a small amount of CO into the cabin, just enough to cause that feeling of heaviness and tiredness that I'm simply not getting in my MG. I'm told that the MG has a driver fatigue warning. Never had it activate at all.
@craigwatters127
@craigwatters127 4 месяца назад
@@moragkerr9577 Surprised you didn't know that Morag. Glad to know you were the same as the rest of us once upon a time!
@moragkerr9577
@moragkerr9577 4 месяца назад
@@craigwatters127 I got my EV in a serious hurry in April. Before then I knew nothing, other than that people I knew who had them said they were great to drive, and that I'd rather plug my car in in my garage than make an 18-mile round trip to the nearest petrol station. Morning of 31st March, informed by insurance company that they wanted to write my Golf GTi off rather than repair the bodywork damage caused by an idiot in a BMW. Afternoon of 31st March, went to repair garage and demanded my car back, right now, you bandits. Evening of 31st March, having thought about it a bit, watched a ton of EV RU-vid videos. 8th April, test drove an MG4. 13th April, drove away in my very own brand new MG4. That is a steep learning curve, but I have enjoyed every minute of it.
@craigwatters127
@craigwatters127 4 месяца назад
@@moragkerr9577 why would you drive to the petrol station fill up and go straight home again? I have a tank in my garage, I go out fill up, come back inside then feet up with a coffee, takes longer to put my boots on. That's the trouble with insurance companies, a tree fell on my van and if I had made a claim it would have undoubtedly been written off but I sorted it myself for less than £400.
@moragkerr9577
@moragkerr9577 4 месяца назад
@@craigwatters127 A petrol tank in your garage? Seriously? How does that get replenished and what's the point? I wouldn't drive to the petrol station then home again if I could help it. Life used to be a fairly constant calculation of just when I had to find petrol when I was out and about to avoid having to do that. It was tedious. Too often it ended up with me standing in the freezing rain at midnight on my way home from a night out. That insurance claim was complicated. My garage said £1,600 to fix it initially, but the party at fault didn't want to pay that so it had to go through the insurance. My first instinct was to get the car back and get it fixed anyway, but given other considerations like the new tyres the car needed and the advisories on its last MOT it became clear that taking the insurance company's write-off offer of £4,000 was actually the better bet.
@Asunisland
@Asunisland 4 месяца назад
I drove my Renault Zoe 2022 r135 52kwh from Stockport to sitges in Spain in September this year 2023 and it performed very well. Mostly charged up at tesla and some ionity chargers through uk, France and Spain. It was a 2000 mile round trip. Took ferry from Portsmouth to st Malo. It can easily by done. It was the 1st time i had ever driven in Europe.
@jchinuk
@jchinuk 4 месяца назад
It would be logical to install chargers on the ferry, and good earner for the ferry companies.
@David-fj5lz
@David-fj5lz 4 месяца назад
What happens if you EV goes into meltdown and literally burns its way down and down, melting the metals like ice until it burns through gbd bull and bud bud ship and everything in it, how many will bd killed by fire? Whst will your insurance company do. 0b I know Increase EVERYBODY’S Indurance on the cradle if fear-Climate Change! Look at how Brandon is destroying the US ti please China, his paymaster’s
@davidsaunders2906
@davidsaunders2906 3 месяца назад
Driven by diesel generators I presume?​@@jchinuk
@syncrosimon
@syncrosimon 3 месяца назад
My grandparents drove a Series 1 Land Rover with trailer tent around Spain to Gibraltar in 1956, you are pleased with your journey why?
@MUFC1933
@MUFC1933 3 месяца назад
Stopped production this year of the Zoe
@enyaq_gorm
@enyaq_gorm 4 месяца назад
I regularly do Livingston to Milton Keynes in the enyaq. My first stop is either Carlisle or porsche but bladder determines that. Porsche staff are lovely and always like to discuss how I'm finding the enyaq. Stafford is my second stop too. I always aim to stop around 15% or lower because then you get faster charging. Definitely wouldn't dream of stopping if I was still at 40%.
@steveorton2441
@steveorton2441 4 месяца назад
Such a nice change to see a journey as I would do it. There's a lot of click bait on RU-vid and sensationalism is the way to lure folks in. I'm a former professional driver and anyone who tells you he can drive 6 hours non stop is an accident waiting to happen. Just because the car virtually drives itself leads to a sense of relaxation it's hard to snap out of when an emergency happens. So vigilance is vital. So why do I drive an EV? Comfort, quietness and cheapness. I did a 266 mile round trip last weekend. I charged up overnight at 9p per kw so from 20% it cost me around £3.50. I cheated by charging at my relatives home while I was there and arrived back home with 35% left in the battery. So a weekend away for 1.32 pence per mile and less than a minute of my time wasted on charging. It's like Jim Starling says on RU-vid recently. Driving an EV. Boring!
@JamesSmith-qs4hx
@JamesSmith-qs4hx 4 месяца назад
I think there might be a huge market for jigsaws at EV stations.🤔
@tooflesstesla
@tooflesstesla 4 месяца назад
Good to hear some good sense from you. I don't understand the "I'm macho and you're a snowflake" mentality (see comment from @grahamhobbs5162) regarding taking breaks. Driving is not about endurance behind the wheel, it is about being safe, comfortable and alert while behind the wheel. Stay safe everyone.
@barriegregory6606
@barriegregory6606 4 месяца назад
I regularly drive from Calgary Canada to Vancouver BC, it's 1000km & on Good day in 10 hrs, I pick up Fast Food on the way stretch my legs & a bathroom break, all within the 10hrs, I must admit to feeling tired for the last 2 hrs though, 250 km the speed limit is 120 ( 80 Mph ) so that helps the average speed.
@tonyireland2234
@tonyireland2234 3 месяца назад
what exactly is a professional driver ? I've never heard of this job description before.
@davidjames3787
@davidjames3787 4 месяца назад
Düsseldorf not very glamorous? It's the centre of the German fashion industry. It's one of Germany's wealthiest cities and is a major centre for the arts, design and the media.
@s111nps
@s111nps 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the content. Nice to have a sensible balanced view. I’m enjoying my first EV. I have a Škoda Enyaq 80 coupe. No home charger,and in the 1200 miles I’ve done, including two long trips, no stressful issues. My “milk float” is suiting me fine. Thanks again for vlog.
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 4 месяца назад
I have an 80kwh Enyaq too. Longest trip so far was 240 miles so no need for public charging and I haven't used public charging at all yet apart from the free 7kw one at the local garden centre.
@nevillechant27
@nevillechant27 4 месяца назад
Great vlog, I do all so have a megane E tech and love it , can I ask you question please do you have issues with your parcel shelf vibrating ?
@thecremeegg
@thecremeegg 4 месяца назад
If you're doing long journeys outside your EVs range weekly then it might not make sense, but for people like me that charge at home and rarely need to charge out and about they make perfect sense. I can get from Hampshire to Manchester and back with one charge in my i4
@smithleon
@smithleon 4 месяца назад
Great video. Completely agree with everything. I regularly drive from Oxford to Telford and back, 230 miles, in a Tesla Model Y. I charge from home (full charge 250 miles costs £4.80) and although I could just about do the round trip without charging at all, I will normally charge for 5-10 mins when I need a toilet stop anyway, just to give me a little buffer, and it will only cost me a few quid at a Tesla supercharger. Total cost for 230 miles, £8 ish. That would be £35 odd in my diesel VW. The whole driving experience is much nicer too, one pedal driving, quiet, instant speed when you need it, just a better experience. My diesel hardly ever gets used now except for trips to the dump ;)
@Peoplestariff
@Peoplestariff 3 месяца назад
You’re living the dream :) EV ownership for you is definitely the perfect scenario - it’s a little more difficult for me but I still would never go back to ice
@andyw6026
@andyw6026 4 месяца назад
Great video sir, professional and helpful as always. Thank you.
@jonathanfrankel6787
@jonathanfrankel6787 4 месяца назад
Peugeot E208GT driver here. Pluses .. handles and goes like a stabbed rat, it spins its wheels in sport mode! Pretty good range on a dry summers day. Minuses , best to keep it at 60 or below on the Motorway. Range takes a massive dip in winter, even driving at 50mph max and not using the heater .I’d always take the diesel on a longer or unpredictable journey in winter.
@solentbum
@solentbum 4 месяца назад
I have been driving a LEAF for just over 10 years, and last year uprated to the 59Kwh version. With home charging it was 5 months before I needed to use a public charger. With heater/aircon on and air temp around 6C my range is 200 miles, in summer it exceeds 236 miles. Last summer I drove from Havant to Scotland, the first day was to Gretna Green. I 'top up' charged twice on the way, Warwick services M6 and Tibshelf services.. We arrived at Gretna Green services with plenty still in the tank. The days trip 364 miles, time was around 8 hours. At my age that is enough for the day. One of the biggest holdups was slow traffic on the M6 past a total blockage on the Southbound lane. The slow speed gave me a return of 3.9mkwh. After an evening plugged into the Gridserve AC socket I had a full 'Tank' for the following day as we headed for the West Coast 500 route. Over the next couple of weeks we wandered around West Scotland, The North and Finally Aberdeenshire before driving back south. 2042 miles in total. Being somewhat 'old and decrepit' the most frequent stops were for Public Toilets, at several of which we found Rapid chargers! Not sure if popping down to Bridport for lunch (200 miles return ) counts as a long trip, but that was last week, plus Swanage on Thursday (175 miles) I spashed out £3.45p at Rownhams on the Bridport trip as the satnav warned us of road closures on our route home that were cleared by the time we got there. In short, for my lifestyle, an EV works well. For long and short journeys.. (24000 miles in the last 13 months)
@redjohn20001
@redjohn20001 4 месяца назад
I use the Shell station in Etruria Stoke on Trent to recharge on my trips back to my home land. I use the Octopus card and wonder if that will work with the Porche charges? I often see them when planning routes on a Better Route Planner
@Pitch-Dark-Paranormal
@Pitch-Dark-Paranormal 3 месяца назад
That's The MacMaster you are on about. I wish people would just watch his content and take it for what it is: entertainment and the fact that the video you are on about is two guys in two different cars doing a fun road trip. It... is... a... bit... of... fun!
@Nomanspie
@Nomanspie 4 месяца назад
Most of the people who complain about having to charge an EV for 30 mins during a journey, are likely only going to do a trip like this a few times a year. The vast majority of us use our cars for commuting, shopping and other short trips...where an EV is more than enough. The complaints come from people being misinformed by the media. Even the fears around battery fires are blown out of proportion, particularly when you realise that a fossil fueled car is more likely to catch fire than an EV, by a rather large margin...because you're literally driving around with gallons of flammable liquid sloshing around in a tank under a chunk of metal flying along at 70mph.
@jamesdean897
@jamesdean897 4 месяца назад
Was there much wind noise when on the motorway? My Megane you would think the window was down, no issues when driving around town. Thanks 🙂
@maxthemagition
@maxthemagition 4 месяца назад
I bought a new VW Golf just under 5 years ago under the VW diesel scrappage scheme. My old VW Golf which I bought new in 2006 was traded in for a brand new Golf 1.5 150bhp petrol with the new price was around £25k...I got £6k for my old Golf and also some extras plus discounts... Overall my new VW Golf GT cost me around £19K cash. So I have this great VW Golf which has done around 15k miles and is still like new as I keep it in a garage over the winter......A full tank can take us anywhere in the UK without any hassle. Looking at new VW EVs...The ID3 for example.....For an equivalent to my trusty VW Golf, a new one would cost around £50k!! Trading in my Golf which I reckon would be worth around £15k if I am lucky, I would have to fork out £35K to go electric!! Obviously, like the Golf I owned previously (2006 to 2018), and 12 years old and very reliable, I think that I will stick with my trusty newish VW Golf for another ten years at least.....That will take me to 87 years old.... Why on earth anybody would buy an EV is beyond comprehension.....The prices are just far too high. (By the way a new VW Golf petrol now cost around £30k with the extras....£20k less than a new ID3). They would be better to buy a S/H VW Golf, if they can get their hands on one and stick with it.....
@chrisschulten4983
@chrisschulten4983 4 месяца назад
It would be interesting to know how many kWh you used in driving your 340 miles? That would give a good estimate of range for such a trip, at motorway speeds anyway.
@france4me117
@france4me117 Месяц назад
This has been very educational indeed ... Watching the real thing how EV's could get you in a relaxed time is an eye opener ... Brilliantly done Bryan, thank you for the brilliant video. I'm after the all new Peugeot E3008 which will be out soon I suppose. I also love the Renault Megane E and you're correct, you've made it home safely and looking rather fresh ... God Bless from Melbourne, Australia
@rustyjoints4857
@rustyjoints4857 4 месяца назад
Thanks for uploading, it’s good to see how the megane performs. When you mention it’s not got the range Renault say it should have do you mean WLTP or from the Renault mileage calculator on their website?
@CosmicSeeker69
@CosmicSeeker69 4 месяца назад
not being nasty - but they're all the same. It's allowed to have generated range estimates - that can never translate into real world. Recently the Korean G'ment toook Tesla to court over their =20% range figures - Elon incurred a massive fine. I'm a fan of his but I KNOW that his operation fakes data to prevent warranty claims
@stuartd9741
@stuartd9741 4 месяца назад
It has ever been thus.. .. Same with ICE cars MPG.. Rarely get the manufacturers range... .. If a manufacturer claims a range either ice or EV it should do that range... .. Or it's false advertising..? .. Not sure how they get away with it to be honest....
@jasoncarmichael4540
@jasoncarmichael4540 4 месяца назад
Awesome I enjoy these road trip videos
@derekhopkinton4646
@derekhopkinton4646 4 месяца назад
I own the same car for the last 4 months and am as enthusiastic about it as you are. But l feel that your test did lack some useful information such as. What power mode did you drive the car in and what level of regen did you use, as both of these factors have a huge impact on potential range and very little on real world performance. I regularly achieve 235 ish miles driving the same kind of route as you and in similar temperatures, but l do also use the seat heater on the number 2 setting for extra comfort. Renault's range figures are not achievable in the real world or any other. But with planning these cars are everyday usable, but not in the same way as fossil fuels.
@nathanwolf5547
@nathanwolf5547 4 месяца назад
I was running a 44kWh MG until recently. Not the greatest range but I still did long journeys easily. I’ve gone for an Ioniq 6 this time so I’ll chat with you at SMMT next time about it.
@jimsouthlondon7061
@jimsouthlondon7061 2 месяца назад
Rishi can’t stop the boats but he can stop Net Zero 🤣🤣🤣Expect the same from Sir Keir .
@CraigSmith-en3sy
@CraigSmith-en3sy 12 дней назад
The only thing I'll add is you know where these stops are which makes it stress free. I have an EV for work and I don't regularly travel long distances but when I do it's in different areas of the country and it can be stressful finding a suitable charge point.
@Nikoo033
@Nikoo033 4 месяца назад
From the charging figures you gave, this EV seemed to have been charging at 40-60kW on average. That’s pretty low for such a recent EV. My Ioniq 28 does 66kW near constant 15-80%😅
@robg521
@robg521 3 месяца назад
I regularly drive from Hampshire on the sea front to Norwich in Norfolk [so have to go around the dreaded M25]. On other times I go from Hampshire to North Wales, [so have to get past the dreaded Birmingham] On both journeys If I leave at 4am it is a straight through journey with hardly anything else on the road, everything is laid back and hassle free, the services areas are half empty, no queues. No stress.. On the way back when I leave at 8.30 am it’s a bloody nightmare. The roads are full, start stop journeys, constantly changing speed to adjust to traffic conditions, everyone on the road is congested, impatient and angry, all of the service areas a full of people queuing for everything . The point being … the time of day you travel is one of the most significant factors in any long distance journey. It affects the economy of your vehicle, your stress levels, and comfort and anything you want to do at a service area.
@garybibby2698
@garybibby2698 4 месяца назад
I find resetting the trip meter helps as doing lots of short runs, the energy used to heat gets factored in like it thinks oh he does 4 x 5 mile runs daily so I’ll need the same energy to heat every time I start up.
@Professor-Jack
@Professor-Jack 4 месяца назад
A Merry Christmas to you and have a very good and happy New Year for 2024 and of course, plenty of safe, driving
@toad008
@toad008 4 месяца назад
We started 8 years ago with a Zoe at 100 mile range. Suffolk to Outer Hebrides over a few holiday days no problem. Now with a Kona Premium 250 miles one charge no problem, then stop for lunch and a charge. We go anywhere in it, don't think about it. And the Kona is 5 years old, goes lovely and quick.
@nicholasellam3282
@nicholasellam3282 4 месяца назад
Another informative video, thank you. Reinforces my hankering after the Megane, especially as I spent a frustrating hour this morning in my Zoe at a 150KW Shell charger to get from 49% to 86% (admittedly at 1 degree Celcius). Much as I like the Tebay services, Southbound the chargers are Tesla only. I know that you can gain access to Northbound, but at the time of writing, only 1 of the Gridserve CCS chargers northbound was in service. Finally, although I have not tried this personally, according to ONTO, the Ionity chargers should work with a Shell Recharge RFID card. Keep up the good work!
@AutoEV
@AutoEV 4 месяца назад
I’ve been told the same thing about the Shell card working with Ionity. I haven’t used it as I have the Ionity app which debits my credit card, but I may try the Shell card next time I’m at an Ionity.
@JohnLovesSpain
@JohnLovesSpain 4 месяца назад
Very informative video, thank you
@sargfowler9603
@sargfowler9603 4 месяца назад
I think a lot of people would like to get an EV, but the cost is prohibitive and charging is still a concern. For a second car with short journeys, I think they're fine. The constant stops to recharge would do my head in. I have discussed with several friends that do a lot of miles about getting an EV. They would be cheaper to run and save several hundred pounds a month. But they don't have a driveway and so can only charge at overpriced charging stations, so the cost saving is negated.
@CosmicSeeker69
@CosmicSeeker69 4 месяца назад
and, then there's the crazy increase in insurance premiums....
@sargfowler9603
@sargfowler9603 4 месяца назад
@@CosmicSeeker69 So true. I was quoted £1k for a 3 year old Tesla model 3. It negates any saving tbh.
@isaachunt5799
@isaachunt5799 4 месяца назад
@@CosmicSeeker69 oh yes. even a small scratch on the battery case will write off an ev. our leaf was 600 quid in 2021 to insure. last year it went to 1200 quid. i shopped around and lowered it. my old company couldn't give me an answer as to why it doubled. smallest thing happens to the battery it's goodbye car. tesla 30k to replace lol
@carlarrowsmith
@carlarrowsmith 4 месяца назад
​@@CosmicSeeker69my e-niro is cheaper this year than last year. VW ID3 is cheaper than a Golf to insure. Tesla's have high insurance costs, who would have thought a car with the 0-60 as fast or faster than a Porsche would be expensive 😂
@rastislavvarga9908
@rastislavvarga9908 4 месяца назад
My usecase of 90% daily city drive to work would be no issue. Anyway I am thinking about Scenic with big 91kwh baterry (87kwh usable) which could leave range anxiety behind in winter and on highway in the same time.
@Petelmrg
@Petelmrg 4 месяца назад
Agree 100% - we drove an MG4 from the Midlands and stayed in South Brittany earlier this year, used rest breaks for charging on the journey and village/shopping centre chargers while we were touring around in France. We never once had to sit in the car while it charged.
@glennbeadshaw727
@glennbeadshaw727 4 месяца назад
Well aren't you special Pete
@glennbeadshaw727
@glennbeadshaw727 4 месяца назад
I never knew sitting in the car charging was a thing until you brought it up
@Petelmrg
@Petelmrg 4 месяца назад
No, not at all - that's the whole point; perhaps you didn't understand.@@glennbeadshaw727
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 3 месяца назад
@@glennbeadshaw727 "sitting in the car charging" is why you pack a thermos of tea and some sandwiches...
@richardblakey3345
@richardblakey3345 4 месяца назад
Good video. Tried to back calculate your range at 3’C in Lockerbie ?200 for 100%. Megane was my 2nd choice but went for Kia Niro because I could get a £3000 discount. I am getting 240-250 in winter but most journeys are fairly local. Got 3.8 m/kWh on round trip of 180 to IOW with temperatures -2’C to 4’C = 240 range. Probably still think I made right choice The Banbury charging station would be ideal for me from Sussex heading up north. I wish we could get better infrastructure along the south coast as most of my longer trips are to and from the West Country. Thanks again and all the best for festive season.
@dieseldavey
@dieseldavey 4 месяца назад
My golden rule is when doing a longer journey in my id3 is never let the charge drop below 35% when going to a charge point. That way if their is a problem then plenty left in the batteries and no stress for the next charger. Thanks for the video 👍🏻
@AutoEV
@AutoEV 4 месяца назад
I agree, and that’s why I did three stops. I’d rather take longer and be more confident of reaching a charger than take the gamble. And that’s something that comes with driving EVs like yourself. You adapt your style I think, and by being a bit more careful and less likely to take a chance, the “range anxiety” dissipates. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
@Jack-lo1uc
@Jack-lo1uc 3 месяца назад
😂😂😂
@KCTalksEV
@KCTalksEV 4 месяца назад
Honestly this is what we need to actually show - realistic journeys, and an honest level of timings. No "All the chargers don't work" or "EVs don't work for long journeys" bollocks you find from (more clickbait and echo chamber) RU-vidrs. Even the highway code tells you to have a 15 minute break every two hours. In the case of the Megane, that'll get you another ~100 miles at a 150kW point. With UK traffic and my trips, it's about two hours for ~100 miles anyway! Realistically, most owners will probably do around 3-4 hours (~200 miles) and stop for 30 minutes, which is possible with the Megane and a lot of other EVs on the market.
@davidkramrisch
@davidkramrisch 3 месяца назад
78p/kwhr at Porsche South Lakes. Have you found any deal or provider to get it cheaper? Electroverse? Bonnet?
@mahargrekab
@mahargrekab 4 месяца назад
Just done 360 mile round trip in my Cupra Born to the coast. Stopped once each way for 20 mins charge and stretch of legs. No problem! 😊
@deanbaggs
@deanbaggs 4 месяца назад
Hi. Thanks for the very useful video. I have perhaps the worst EV ever produced if you listen to most people. It’s a top trim 2023 Mazda MX-30 and I don’t think it’s perfect but it works well for my wife and I. We do 10000 km a year and don’t really do road trips. I plug it in at home 2 nights a week and never need to use public chargers. My commute is 12 km return 5 days a week and we use it for shopping and appointments on the weekends. My point is range isn’t everything. Plan your stops to fast charge and buy what works for you. This is my first EV and I’ll never go back to gas cars. 😊
@VeitchyVeitch
@VeitchyVeitch 3 месяца назад
Interesting to hear from someone with a MX-30 that does low mileage and is happy. Good to know that it's perfectly usable for that use case.
@narvuntien
@narvuntien 4 месяца назад
My parents have a BMW i4 edrive 40 and went on their first road trip last weekend. To Dunsborough, Western Australia. 270 km arriving with 200 km left. The hotel didn't have charging infrastructure so they drove to a different hotel for dinner that did. However, the charger broke part way through the charge and they had to keep resetting the charge session to crawl to 79% (watching the charge with the BMW app). The second charge was in the middle of town, unfortunately the person using it wasn't using Plug Share so they stayed in the car to wait. Wasn't that long since Tesla's charge fast. Third charge was on the way back on a well known super fast charger on the way back, smooth and fast. Australia's charging infrastructure isn't anywhere near as good as the UKs yet unfortunately. So I have driven their BMW to take them to the airport and the first thing you notice is the lack of vibration through the steering wheel and that makes driving long distances so much more relaxing.
@RagingGamingHD1
@RagingGamingHD1 3 месяца назад
I love how you start the video with gripes about another video you saw where the guy basically complained about the traffic and food which aren’t relevant to the topic at hand - then you spend about 1/6th of this video gushing about the staff at Porsche Centre South Lakes and how good the coffee was and complimenting how using the M6 toll avoided the traffic through Birmingham 😂😂
@octarinehk
@octarinehk 4 месяца назад
That South Lakes Porsche charger is also on Elli and likely a lot cheaper than using Shell Recharge.
@rchatte100
@rchatte100 4 месяца назад
I have an EV & a hybrid, always use hybrid for long journeys, much easier/quicker.
@trevorberridge6079
@trevorberridge6079 3 месяца назад
What do you class as a long journey? Hybrids are pointless unless you travel more than 250 miles non-stop on a regular basis. By today's standards the average EV does 150-200 miles on a charge in winter, never mind summer.
@Baddad36
@Baddad36 3 месяца назад
Forget the inconvenience of recharging (as you allude to, your other car would do it without refueling (mine would do the entire return trip)) they say the true cost of motoring is the depreciation. Your Megane is 4 months old and has lost in the region of £17,000, roughly 45%! THAT's what the "other chap" goes on about. It would be interesting if you did a similar trip but not a route you know extremely well to see how well you faired.
@Lewis_Standing
@Lewis_Standing 4 месяца назад
How are the headlights in the Mégane? Just saw a little bit of night driving at the end and it looked okay? Nice and blue hue and an okay brightness?
@steveyoung8376
@steveyoung8376 4 месяца назад
in 2017 i commuted daily 180 miles in a renault zoe on dual carriage way in devon and Cornwall, hilly and during winter. Also commued weeklly from london to cornwall and mainly during winter, only pain was I wish i got the 43kw quick charge version £1000 extra and slightly lower range. I did experience 1 december a cold battery on mid journey and only getting 7kw charging on a 50kw charger.
@AndrewB417
@AndrewB417 Месяц назад
Bit of a long shot but could it be something to do with the frequency it uses to unlock the car when the key card is in my pocket, just a thought because our range rover was parked right next to it unlocked and I wondered if this interfered in some way? Probably talking a load of rubbish. One more question if you don't mind? What mode do you usually drive in? ECO is really sluggish but obviously saves the range. Thanks again.
@DumfriesDik
@DumfriesDik 4 месяца назад
Nice video thank you. I don't frequently do long journeys but I am not bothered by the idea of them. The idea of micro stops is interesting and I can see how they would work.
@menacemenupat9667
@menacemenupat9667 3 месяца назад
I love my megane in iconic spec, ceramic grey. If your journey is planned and you stop for lunch and plug into a decent DC charger you can travel the majority of England.
@aston-martin-internationalist
@aston-martin-internationalist 4 месяца назад
Currently looking at an I4 eDrive 40. I do a lot of miles and have had test vehicles which I've struggled with at times. If i have a busy day of meetings and I plan in stops, i have experienced broken chargers or chargers in use. There is no way round the planning of this unlike an ICE car that you just dont have to think about. All the planning in the world can't get round a charging site that is in use or has cars charging by the time you arrive or having to deal with a charger that decides to go awol. I really want to give EV a go for my daily hack, but there still seem too many variables that can screw a day up over and above an ICE/Hybrid. My current C300de will do nigh on 600 miles on a tank if driven conservatively. I know I will have to adjust my planning and the way I manage my days, but the public charging network (which I'd have to rely on heavily) still is not great although granfed, it is getting better. Public charging is also ludicrously expensive (before the miriad pf subscriptions etc). I4 eDrive 40 should give me around 280-300 I'd like to hope, so I would generally just top-up as/when, but there are still parts of the UK that had a very poor network; parts of Wales, Norfolk, parts of Scotland.
@Joe-lb8qn
@Joe-lb8qn 4 месяца назад
In your position, Id just get a Tesla.Most of this concerns would go away entirely. I did 1300 miles UK to Norway earlier this year, zero issues teh tesla knows what chargers are available where and off course you can use public chargers as well. Public charging is expensive for sure, but thats offset by extremely low home charging costs .And tesla charging is about 2/3 cost of most others.
@ouethojlkjn
@ouethojlkjn 4 месяца назад
Just get a Tesla model Y and use their network. You’ll be absolutely fine!
@aston-martin-internationalist
@aston-martin-internationalist 4 месяца назад
No thanks, I actually want to like the car I'm driving, not just because the Tesla Supercharger network is excellent. If Model S was still available on the UK market, that would be a potential, but I really don't like the Model 3 and particularly the Model Y despite their tech, they're just not for me. I've just ordered a BMW i4 M Sport Pro eDrive 40 with all options ticked with the exception of leather and sunroof.
@Joe-lb8qn
@Joe-lb8qn 4 месяца назад
@@aston-martin-internationalist nice. I may check out the rumoured i2 if it appears this year.
@garybibby2698
@garybibby2698 4 месяца назад
Getting 220 in winter in my Mégane. Most I’ve had in summer was 292! It’s very useable range. Done 15k miles in 9 month since I got my Mégane.
@willduo1
@willduo1 4 месяца назад
Does yours have a heat pump?
@garybibby2698
@garybibby2698 4 месяца назад
@@willduo1 no. Was quite an early order on Techno trim.
@johnenglish2702
@johnenglish2702 4 месяца назад
@@garybibby2698 I was regularly getting 270 to 300 miles last summer in my non heat-pump Megane.
@richardhowlett9424
@richardhowlett9424 4 месяца назад
Goodness me 😂
@JamesSmith-qs4hx
@JamesSmith-qs4hx 4 месяца назад
EV’s seem ideal for people with a lot of spare time on their hands.
@petepete-1779
@petepete-1779 4 месяца назад
I drove ID3 58kwh twice from England to Poland. Had no stress at all. Took just a tiny bit of preparetion to find out chargers along the route. 6 charging stops and around 4 hours.
@bobuk5722
@bobuk5722 4 месяца назад
Hi. No EV yet, next car will be. One of my criteria has been to be able to drive to London and back - about 200 miles return - without charging. Many EVs can now do that. It seems to me that EV driving requires a tad more planning for long trips but that's no bad thing. A good SatNav is also a big help. It's a rapidly developing form of transport - in a few years time the energy storage will make today's battery technology look archaic. There's a lot online about 'range anxiety', not so much about environmental benefits - and I have a grandchild and that comes into my thinking. There are always naysayers - some are frightened of the 'new'. The worried, the genuinely concerned, need some help, like this nice video, the others perhaps would benefit from a pinch of salt.
@VeitchyVeitch
@VeitchyVeitch 3 месяца назад
Great points, particularly regarding the environment and grandchildren!
@martin8rice
@martin8rice 2 месяца назад
Very interesting, thanks. One question please. As someone about to venture into the EV world i'm wondering what the ettiquette at charging stations is when you and others are waiting for a place to charge. Is it a free for all like some supermarket carparks?
@AutoEV
@AutoEV 2 месяца назад
Most people I come across at charging stations are well behaved and respectful that there might be someone in front of them. No different to queuing at a petrol station I suppose. I’ve never had to have a word with someone for jumping a queue in the 4 years I’ve been driving EVs. There is an etiquette when it comes to how long you should stay on a charger though, and I’d suggest that is 80% if people are waiting. The last 20% of a battery takes longer to replenish (hence why manufacturers quote a 10%-80% charge time) so if you are charging and people are waiting, I’d say once you’ve got to 80% (or as much as you need) then leave and let someone else in. Does everyone agree with this? How have others found charging etiquette?
@gordonarmstrong1383
@gordonarmstrong1383 4 месяца назад
Nice view over the loch at Lochmaben
@geoffersvoiceofreason2534
@geoffersvoiceofreason2534 4 месяца назад
Thank you for a honest review vid on EVs. If only the Luddites who watch those two clickbait buffoons would watch factual vids like this.
@15bit62
@15bit62 4 месяца назад
At Banbury you'd probably save a lot of money skipping Instavolt and using the Tesla chargers that are 5 mins further from the M40.
@AndrewB417
@AndrewB417 Месяц назад
Great videos, I've just bought a 23' megane Etech EV60 iconic with 14,000 miles on the clock, only had it 2 days and absolutely love it. Good to watch you doing a long trip in it and the porsche chargers are not too far from me so good to know they're worth stopping at. Have you had the car make any strange loud noises? I left my mobile in the car and when I went to get it the car unlocked itself as it does but when I open the door a really loud low booming base sound and like feedback started coming from the speakers, full volume, I closed the door and locked the car only then did it stop, I unlocked the car again, opened the door and it started again until I'd closed and locked it again. It wasn't music just a horrible loud noise. Any ideas please? Thanks
@tooflesstesla
@tooflesstesla 4 месяца назад
Enjoyable video; thank you. What is the UK regulation or advisory on the maximum duration of driving before taking a mandatory break or rest stop? I think it's crazy not to take a break after driving non-stop for 2 or 3 hours.
@CosmicSeeker69
@CosmicSeeker69 4 месяца назад
there isn't - and I've been a driver all my life and can easily do 8 hours plus driving a day and I'm 68 - Last year I did France, Switzerland Italy and Spain 5.300kms in 17days and loved it (all that is apart from the M-ways in Italy). Did I stop? YES, the human body dictates that but was it an issue to do those Kms - absolutely not - but I am strong and healthy and drink lots of plain water. Too many process food feed Snowflakes around these days.....
@JamesSmith-qs4hx
@JamesSmith-qs4hx 4 месяца назад
I agree. Sandwiches with the crusts cut off and a flask of tea should also be mandatory. Also carry a nice Jigsaw puzzle.
@tooflesstesla
@tooflesstesla 4 месяца назад
@@CosmicSeeker69 I don't understand the "I'm macho and you're a snowflake" mentality regarding taking breaks. Driving is not about endurance behind the wheel, it is about being safe, comfortable and alert while behind the wheel. Stay safe everyone.
@newbeginnings8566
@newbeginnings8566 4 месяца назад
Long distance HGV drivers somehow manage to drive all day with allowance for the tachometer... Before EVs I never heard anyone stating that 2 hours is a maximum.. It all depends on road conditions, age, sex etc.. If I have a long trip I stop a bit but it's not obligatory nor absolutely necessary - unless of course you drive an EV...
@JamesSmith-qs4hx
@JamesSmith-qs4hx 4 месяца назад
Anyone who needs to take a break after 2 hours of driving is the sort of person who still wears a mask when driving and took the three dart finish 💉💥💔
@andcharge
@andcharge 2 месяца назад
Very interesting to see the journey from North to South! Also to hear your thoughts about taking the trip in an EV vs. your Jeep. Time aside - How would you rate your charging experience compared to the experience you have when feeling a car?
@AutoEV
@AutoEV 2 месяца назад
I’m just back (yesterday) from doing the exact same trip in my Jeep. We stopped twice, once for breakfast and another to stretch our legs and let the dog have a wee. Time-wise it was probably 40 mins quicker than when I did it with the Megane, but what I did notice was how much more tiring it felt as I wasn’t taking the breaks I did to recharge the car. I hadn’t really considered how tiring I now find driving that route without a proper break. My charging experiences have always been good on that route for 99% of the time I’ve done it in an EV. Very few times have I ever had an issue either waiting for a charge, or broken chargers. As I said, not everyone will agree with me, and it won’t be perfect for everyone, but it’s not the issue that some make it out to be.
@v1nnyc
@v1nnyc 4 месяца назад
Its the ABC of electic car ownership
@Dave-in-France
@Dave-in-France 4 месяца назад
Hi Bryan, I run a 2021 MG ZSEV with an official range of 243 kms. What I actually get varies - like they all do - due to temperature, heating/aircon, speed atc; but what surprises me is that even in winter with heating on and cold temps I still 243 kms on GOM and still get in reality over 200 kms. I charge overnight at home via the granny charger and a quality 16a exterior socket on cheap-rate electric. During summer months my best ever range has been, up to now, 330 kms. What I love about my EV is that : 1. It is cheap to run - 20Kw/hr charge overnight costs less than 3 euros, even in todays barmy energy market prices; 2. It is soooo smooth and quiet to travel in, almost like a private train; 3. I lurve the fact that I can fuel-up at home and have a full tank every morning if I want or need to have; On the subject of your video "Doing longer trips" I'm old, retired and can't be arsed to do 'em ! Pretty-much all the journeys we do in the MG can be catered for with one overnight charge; however I have occasionally done them and I found that with my ChargeMap card and my Tesla app. I have no trouble at all. (I do still lust after a new version Tesla Model 3 with heat-pump though. Over here in France we still get a 7000€ gov. grant for buying a new EV. Ooooooh the temptation...)actually
@granfersteve3815
@granfersteve3815 4 месяца назад
Would the costs be higher if you chose to use the chargers on the motorway services as opposed to those you know about?
@AutoEV
@AutoEV 4 месяца назад
No, not necessarily. Each provider charges differently, but that doesn’t go on their actual location.
@simonevans8979
@simonevans8979 4 месяца назад
I used to put £20 of diesel in my Peugeot every 2-3 weeks, with no `local` or `regional` journeys - I have a company car for that. Now have an electric car and use the same amount of electricity. My next company car will be electric because there's NO DIFFERENCE in practical ownership costs - but I've yet to spend ANY dough on my E-208 in 12 months/25.000 miles...
@rustyjoints4857
@rustyjoints4857 4 месяца назад
Yes, if driving low mileage there’s really no difference in ownership cost (except for maintenance). If driving higher mileage the cost savings are more apparent.
@GeoffBuysCars
@GeoffBuysCars 4 месяца назад
Go on how much did your e208 lose in depreciation in 12 months? I’m willing to bet it’s more than you’d have spent on diesel 😂
@simonevans8979
@simonevans8979 4 месяца назад
@@GeoffBuysCars Don't assume. I DID buy it used. Do you think I am stupid? Why would you think I buy new?`Geoffdoesn't buy cars..`.
@simonevans8979
@simonevans8979 4 месяца назад
@@GeoffBuysCars `Nada,` as at present date. Still worth about a grand MORE than I paid... And I have just totalled up my electricity receipts and they are considerably LESS than I'd have spent on diesel. (Granted not like-for-like as my previous Peugeot was a 308 Estate). And I haven't spent a penny on maintenance as I said previously, except for a new number plate to replace one that got broken. Your anti-EV stance just ain't working. And I bet my 208 will pee all over your gas-guzzler in both initial and roll-on acceleration... It'll certainly eat it alive between the gears...
@paullynass4848
@paullynass4848 4 месяца назад
​@@GeoffBuysCars I bought a Skoda Octavia in 2018 ..it was 1year old with 13 k miles on it..I bought it for £13 k... You were saying?
@iaingraham4107
@iaingraham4107 4 месяца назад
Comedy gold.3 charging stops and 7.5 hours with a cost of £75 to do a wee 340 mile trip and this is the future.I regulary.In my 19 year old Celica do a similar trip in 5 hours for £50 in fuel.and i am NOT forced to stop every 100 miles as i have a range of 600 miles.
@isaachunt5799
@isaachunt5799 4 месяца назад
he says 75 quid. it will be way more i promiss you that. 80p kw is fast charging rates. our leaf costs 32 quid to fast charge and does 60 miles in the winter. i think it will have cost about 100 quid for that journey. ev's are a scam. i have owned one for 2 years. never ever will i fast charge it. sooner scrap the car go back to a normal car than pay 32 quid to go 60 miles
@plasticcreations7836
@plasticcreations7836 4 месяца назад
We've had a Megane etech since October and a Hyundai Ioniq EV for 3 years before that. Never needed public charging so far as we haven't done any long trips. But if I was going to do a long trip (we plan to do this in 2024) I'd plan it around the range of the vehicle so that I could do the whole trip on one charge OR I would stay at a hotel that had chargers.
@granfersteve3815
@granfersteve3815 4 месяца назад
How many cards and Apps do you have currently though?
@AutoEV
@AutoEV 4 месяца назад
Two cards and two apps. Sometimes i use contactless if it’s provided for which many now do.
@David-pk1jg
@David-pk1jg 4 месяца назад
Bryan, many thanks for your interesting diary video for a journey that I do on a regular basis (Edinburgh to London). As I'm seriously considering an EV for next year, my question for you (or any other readers) is regarding the cost of changing during the journey. Is it worth the time/inconvenience of leaving the motorway in search of cheaper charging points? Any thoughts/insights would be welcome.
@richardanderson9340
@richardanderson9340 4 месяца назад
I occasionally drive from near Glasgow to London in a Tesla model 3. I leave with 100% and use the Tesla navigation to let Tesla plan my charging stops. Last time I did this was before the Russian invasion of Ukraine and it cost me then around £30 to get to London. Prices are around 35% higher now and some Tesla chargers appear to operate different rates at different periods of the day. I’ve got a 2019 model 3 LRAWD. Useable range in summer conditions around 280 miles and around 200 in winter. I don’t usually drive more that 150 miles between stops whether on motorbike, diesel car or motorhome.
@David-pk1jg
@David-pk1jg 4 месяца назад
Thanks @@richardanderson9340 so I guess the convenience and efficiency of the Tesla charging network takes priority over cost on such drives and understandably so. It would be interesting to hear from non-Tesla drivers about their experience on long distance motorway drives. Is it worth going off the motorway for say 5- 10 miles to reach a cheaper charger?
@richardanderson9340
@richardanderson9340 4 месяца назад
@@David-pk1jg you can use A Better Route Planner to test out your choice. It lets you input your choice. Tesla provides an integration that other makers can’t. So if I start my journey and it’s colder and wetter than planned or a charger fails on my route Tesla will recalculate for me
@David-pk1jg
@David-pk1jg 4 месяца назад
Thanks Richard, I'll give it go.
@richardanderson9340
@richardanderson9340 4 месяца назад
@@David-pk1jg I meant to say that Tesla appears to be much cheaper than other high output chargers. I’ve never used any other fast charger
@bjrnragnarhaugan332
@bjrnragnarhaugan332 4 месяца назад
Very good video👍
@gmac7947
@gmac7947 3 месяца назад
McMaster ….. the voice of reason ❤
@richmaniow
@richmaniow 4 месяца назад
Lots of big charging stations now opening plus bigger batteries means that range is no longer the issue it was. However i still feel the elephant in the room with EV's is the battery warranties not being long enough, most only cover the first 7-8 years which is about half of the lifetime a car, which you would expect to last around 15 year's. Plus of course there's often a limit of 100k miles as well, once you go beyond this the warranties void as well regardless of age. The high cost of replacing or repairing an EV's battery could effectively mean the car is worthless once the battery warranty has expired. We're already seeing high mileage (50k miles+) EV's depreciate massively as they get closer towards the 100k mileage limit (ironically helped by bigger batteries and more charging stations etc). There's no question EV's have improved massively over the last 5 years but the manufacturers warrenties haven't kept up. If solar panels can come with a 15-20 year warranty why not EV batteries?
@DwaynePipes
@DwaynePipes 4 месяца назад
Solar panels aren't batteries. What are the normal ICE car warranties? Three years? How much to replace a failed/siezed engine after that? ICE isn't the fluffy cloud heaven that some make it out to be and I'm an ICE owner!
@davidbarlow4454
@davidbarlow4454 4 месяца назад
I think the missing point here is spontaneity - you cannot jump in your ev and drive; you have to plan your journey and where I live there is no network
@AlanTov
@AlanTov 4 месяца назад
If you don’t want to drive more than 250 miles you can do exactly that. If you want to drive more that 250 have a little think. It’s not the end of the world and infrastructure is rapidly improving.
@dayoadeosun1520
@dayoadeosun1520 4 месяца назад
This video just confirms my thoughts about EV. Road trips with EV, cost more and takes more time, most esp if the journey is more than the range of the EV. My prius 2020 phev does about 600 miles and that is abt 38 litres or £55. With my car, this journey would cost me max £35. I would take 15 mins breaks, 4x and my journey time would just be 6hrs 30mins. I enjoy driving EV but would stick with phevs for now.
@exploringwithwheels
@exploringwithwheels 4 месяца назад
Great video 👍
@WatchDSSID
@WatchDSSID 4 месяца назад
It would be interesting to see the same test tomorrow (Christmas Eve) or on a Bank Holiday - at these times I think you will find the current UK infrastructure “stressed”…whereas an ICE car wouldn’t generally not require refuelling.
@williamfuggle1036
@williamfuggle1036 4 месяца назад
Boxing Day 2023 from just outside (north of) Lake District National Park to Birmingham (14 miles west of M6). Stopped 10.45 for loo break at Lancaster Services - 8 chargers with ourselves being 3rd on them so decided to have coffee too. For 30 minutes the chargers were busy then the coffee break 11.00 rush was over and we were the only ones on them. Stopped at Knutsford - 2 chargers and we were straight on as only parking space close to loos as it was 1.45, raining & loads of cars in the close car park. Stopped an extra 10 mins after loo to eat sandwich. Further loo break at Stafford services as motorway slow and been diverted off at one point. Didn’t bother to use charger as plenty of spaces closer to services than the chargers. Home with 100 miles range remaining (48%)
@nottmfunguy
@nottmfunguy 4 месяца назад
@@williamfuggle1036 You stopped 3 times on a 92 miles stretch of motorway?
@williamfuggle1036
@williamfuggle1036 3 месяца назад
@@nottmfunguy 🤣 M6 (especially bank holidays) is measured in time, not miles (and we were diverted off for while as m6 blocked by animals on the motorway after 2nd stop). Actually last stop was a 5 minute “just in case” which we were right about as M6 after toll was slow & we came off onto Black Country Route and cut across to S-W Birmingham. Our family, who we visit in Cumbria, and ourselves travelling in opposite direction find time of travel varies between 3.5 to 6 hours (and one occasion 7 hours) 🤷‍♂️. We find it more relaxing to stop than crawl endlessly without a break.
@nottmfunguy
@nottmfunguy 3 месяца назад
@@williamfuggle1036 How does that impact an EV in crawling traffic? as in range and charging? I have one of those new diesel BMW engines that seems to give more millage by keeping a steady speed even at crawling. Stop start I hate (there is a way to bypass it), I go to Cornwall from the Lakes where I live around 3 times a year, for family reason. Its a routine of a journey so I fill the tank and just drive, gives me a whooping 590 miles in my 4 x 4. I have have to admit not as good as a 5 series msport I once owned, I used to do a regular motorway journey with work, I was amazed at the mpg for a 3 litre diesel, 54 to 56 mpg viewing it on the screen, totally mad, I thought there was a fault lol. In summary the shorter the journey time from A to B is what I will always want.
@andrewclayton4860
@andrewclayton4860 3 месяца назад
Fair and balanced review. Did 500 miles one weekend in my Corsa, bit of planning for stops and no issues at all. Regular breaks make a difference and so what if it takes a little longer
@jackmorganfiftyfive
@jackmorganfiftyfive 3 месяца назад
"...so what if it takes a little longer..." Many of us simply do not have the time for 'a little longer.' We do not all live in your 'I have all the time in the world' bubble...
@GrrMeister
@GrrMeister 4 месяца назад
*Do the Same Journey on Christmas EVE !*
@chriss4949
@chriss4949 4 месяца назад
😂😂😂
@esuohdica
@esuohdica 3 месяца назад
I'm sorry but it's daylight robbery if the "fuel" costs are the same! I had no idea roadside charging was that expensive! Add into that the extra time required sitting around drinking coffee, as a business user regularly doing longer trips, it's not enough for me yet.
@hadetbramatt
@hadetbramatt 3 месяца назад
I have the Megane e tech and don't understand the so-called stress. If I'm on a long journey, I top up & have a BIG MAC, no worries. 😜
@madlucio70
@madlucio70 4 месяца назад
I live in a location that can have seasonal temperature ranges of +45C to -35C. I frequently drive long distances and the weather can be really extreme with deep snow, high winds and torrential rains depending on the season. I purchased a PHEV and it is absolutely fantastic in these conditions. I can drive in EV only when I am grinding through city traffic and doing my daily commutes. I am always safe on the long hauls in inclement weather, because I can run in Hybrid or petrol only across long expanses with very little charging infrastructure.
@CosmicSeeker69
@CosmicSeeker69 4 месяца назад
probs THE most sensible comment on here
@trevorberridge6079
@trevorberridge6079 3 месяца назад
PHEVs are becoming more and more pointless in a world where a pure BEV Nissan Arya just drove from pole to pole. A vanishingly small number of people will ever need to drive further than BEVs are capable of today. I mean how many people actually drive more than 400 miles in a day?
@H2Dwoat
@H2Dwoat 3 месяца назад
Hi, great vid 👍. I’m currently looking at EV’s on the motability scheme and have definitely come to the conclusion that a home charger would be a requirement for me. It was certainly informative to see your journey and charging experience but I was very surprised to see the cost of charging. EV’s are touted as saving on fuel costs but that doesn’t appear to be the case if you are only charging away from home. Is there a fuel ‘tax’ component to the charge?
@UKMike2009
@UKMike2009 3 месяца назад
Regarding Motability EVs - if you are less able then be very aware of the weight and awkwardness of handling the charging cables when away from home. They can be incredibly heavy and the sites have thoughtfully put in kerbs to trip you up. Depending on your own personal needs, I do not regard EVs as Motability-friendly for those reasons.
@H2Dwoat
@H2Dwoat 3 месяца назад
@@UKMike2009 hi, thanks for the input, I will be sure to assess the cables when doing some test drives.
@AutoEV
@AutoEV 3 месяца назад
You make very valid point. There is a great company called ChargeSafe who evaluate and score charging points not just for their safety (ie, well lit, where they are placed) but also take access into consideration. Well worth a look. And I do agree with what you say about some of them. Charging installers need to think a bit more about the less able needing access to these chargers. Thank you for your very valid input.
@BritinSchleswig
@BritinSchleswig 3 месяца назад
Enjoyed the video and you have over 500 comments. A couple of questions. No heavy traffic, did you do the journey on a Sunday?. If you had decided to do journey on 2x charges and then got stuck in traffic, would you then have got somewhat stressed out :)
@AutoEV
@AutoEV 3 месяца назад
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. No, I did the journey on a Monday during daylight hours. In fairness even on a Sunday that can be a busy trip with lots of traffic, so I’m not sure that the day would have made as much of a difference as time of day (ie, doing it at night). The car would easily do it with just two charges and I don’t think congestion would have made any difference as if the car isn’t moving, it’s not using battery. The motorway in the worst place for an EV as you are constantly on power, so in actual fact, stop/start traffic is best as you can recuperate energy through the braking system and aren’t on power as much.
@barriewilliams4526
@barriewilliams4526 4 месяца назад
All too much hassle for an ole fella. I just roll up onto the forecourt in my trusty Austin 7, fill her up, and off we go. Been a doin that for the last 66 years, an ain't goin to change anytime soon🙃
@davidkramrisch
@davidkramrisch 3 месяца назад
MacMaster has it in for EV’s. 🙁. You are fair & level headed thank goodness.
@mickinmerton8053
@mickinmerton8053 3 месяца назад
I appreciate your honest account. You mentioned that you don't have a home charger, this, economically, makes all the difference. The first portion of your long run is at very cheap rate (7.5p/kwh Octopus Go) and then, depending on your trip you may have to charge at 75p/kwh. Then all the trips around home are at the very low rate. I've had my first EV for 5 months, I've driven 2,094 miles with 3 overnight trips. For the 3 overnights stops with charges, the first was 21kWh @ £16.66 (Electovers/Osprey), the second occasion was again Electovers/Osprey 28.8 kWh but I never got charged and the third occasion it was the chargers in a hotel car park which was free. All the rest of the miles were local with overnight charges. The 2,094 files I've done to date have cost me £38.11. I calculate that would of cost me £222 in my previous diesel car. Nevertheless, with my low mileage (4,000 miles/year) it will probably take me 10 years to recover the extra £5,000 cost of the EV.
@marvinsamuels1237
@marvinsamuels1237 4 месяца назад
Our Ioniq has an official range of 193 and obviously is lower In normal use. I’ve used it to travel the 260ish miles to the office via the M6 toll and M40, with a single charging stop at Banbury (when they had only 16 chargers). I thought about stopping at Cobham services on the M25, but it looked like I would get to Hayward’s Heath with the remaining range. Turns out I cut it very close; I got to work with 4% and less than 14 miles range. As a pod point customer I was able to charge overnight in the carpark at the train station for free, so I had 100% available for the journey home the following day which again was completed with a single stop, but this time at Warwick services. EV ownership isn’t for everyone, but nor is it a complete nightmare of an ownership proposition. Loving your road tests, keep them coming.
@charlielittle2688
@charlielittle2688 4 месяца назад
Sick listening to him going on and on and on
@AutoEV
@AutoEV 4 месяца назад
Thank you for watching anyway.
@jonharris1654
@jonharris1654 3 месяца назад
I wonder how accommodating the Porsche dealership would be if you had 2 snotty toddlers with you........because then in general your stops are not relaxing coffee breaks but a 30-40 minute toddler entertainment mission. Which can add a huge amount of stress.
@alicurran1743
@alicurran1743 4 месяца назад
I did similar in the autumn in my 62kwh Leaf, from Lincoln to Fort William ~390 miles. In an ICE vehicle I used to stop once or sometimes twice and feel knackered once I got there. With my EV I stopped/charged 3 times (Barnard Castle, south of Glasgow and Loch Lomond) no problems at all, I'm certain I arrived less tired, stressed and worn out. No concerns about doing it again in the future.
@user-yg3sj1ig4d
@user-yg3sj1ig4d Месяц назад
Are the homechargers a lot cheaper getting this car in few month
@StarLuna973
@StarLuna973 4 месяца назад
I used to stay in Lockerbie and now stay in Moffat. I have a VW ID.3 and the majority of my driving is on the A74(M) and M6 as I prefer shopping in Carlisle and Lockerbie. I have family in West Yorkshire and Derbyshire and don’t ever get “range anxiety” when visiting them. Planning the journeys doesn’t take long and I always use the same public chargers. Taking regular stops reduces fatigue so waiting for the car to charge isn’t an issue as like you said, you can get coffee and something to eat by which time the car has charged. My ID.3 is my first EV and I’ve had it for 15 months now. I’ll never return to ICE vehicles, they cost way more to MOT and service, and are much noisier! I hope you’ve had a great Christmas and Hogmanay and look forward to more videos from you in 2024!
@Brokenbritain2024
@Brokenbritain2024 4 месяца назад
100% agree I’ve had my Born for 18 months and done quite a few long journeys. I’ve only ever had one public charge issue in cobham that was ridiculously busy. Went on ABRP found another charger 4 miles away so used that. I am lucky enough to have a home charger and the biggest issue with having an EV is the price to charge using the public chargers. I never pay more than a fiver at home and when on a long journey the £20 really hurts. Maybe a comparison video of range between winter and summer? The biggest shock I’ve had is summer running I get 4.2-4.8 m/kwh during winter 2.6-3.5 the normal so it is a massive loss. Born during summer is 80% 230 miles winter is 175.
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 4 месяца назад
My concern is a Saturday in August on the M5 or M6 in the not too distant future when I hope charging provision will have caught up with the number of EVs.
@Brokenbritain2024
@Brokenbritain2024 4 месяца назад
@@rogerphelps9939 having had mine a while. I always charge thoughtfully. So if I was heading to my brothers up in Manchester I would grab a coffee and a quick top up charge prior to the M5/6. He is about 120 miles up those combined so there would be no need to charge in the crazy parts. As for battery drain whilst crawling speeds,ive been stuck in a couple of jams and I’ve only ever used between 3-7% more battery so no real issue. Biggest thing to get used to is knowing the car. My brother ran out of petrol on the M6 just north of Birmingham in a jam. He risked it and paid the price. Same with ev if you are approaching a highly congested area ,would you drive a petrol car into it on red nope same with and ev top up grab a coffee and prepare for the motorway nightmare.
@stevenbarrett7648
@stevenbarrett7648 4 месяца назад
We do a regular 240 mile run most weekends in summer, charge to 280 at home and return with 20 to 30 miles to plug back on at home costs about £5, less if the solar is working well
@isaachunt5799
@isaachunt5799 4 месяца назад
new solar panels every 15 years ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 waste of time. time you recoup your money it's new panels time. they claim 15 year warranty lol. what companies here in sweden do is go bankrupt and start under a new name. try getting new panels 14 years from now? zero chance of that
@stevenbarrett7648
@stevenbarrett7648 4 месяца назад
@@isaachunt5799 I’ll be long gone in 15 years so not my problem !
@isaachunt5799
@isaachunt5799 4 месяца назад
@@stevenbarrett7648 it'll be your problem very soon when solid state batteries come out and your ev will be worth 56 quid. when 5 years old go try trading it in? my local car dealer i know very well wont take them in. he said all have given them problems. ev has a place ofc. to and from work home charging. otherwise buy a diesel. i love our leaf btw. amazing car to drive. 20k for us is nothing. we paid cash and that was it. it saves us on our commute
@bshah4831
@bshah4831 4 месяца назад
I definitely drive more sensibly now I have an EV compared to my previous 500 bph Alfa Romeo. But I now never charge above 80% and I plan to drive 2 hours and use that target to find a charging stop usually not for more than 30 minutes.
@CosmicSeeker69
@CosmicSeeker69 4 месяца назад
RESPECT - Sounds like you understand the mission 100% - darn shame about the Alfa though!
@PaulHawkins87
@PaulHawkins87 3 месяца назад
You failed to mention costs though? I checked, the chargers you used were 86p a KWH, and you were getting 3 miles from each, giving a cost of 28 pence a mile. That's the same cost wise a petrol car that does 22 MPG. Wow 😳
@alexpiptom
@alexpiptom 4 месяца назад
The problem is when there are no chargers available so you have to wait for ages or when they aren’t working. Which is all too common.
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