Not this display that is $1,600 for a measly 27" non-adjustable, non-HDR 60hz LED display that is basically the same display minus some minor brightness and P3 color improvements over the 9 year old 2014 5k iMac. Apple is price gouging here but there is no real competition at 5k since 4k is standard and Windows dominates the monitor space.
Mine display will be the next Apple Studio Display II with 120 hertz. Getting a 60 hertz right now is gonna make me upgrade again anytime in 2 years especially at this asking price.
I'm pretty happy with my curved screen 4K Dell S3221QS. It is 31.5" and it's $319. Definitely has some issues. But it's cheap enough I can dump it when something better comes along.
@@vlcheish The older iMac 5K is not the same Quality as the Studio Display. You are wrong here. The Studio Display has much better Speakers, better Mics (3), is much thinner, a Bit brighter, has a better anti reflection Coating and a better Camera with Centre Stage. And if you add a Mac Mini to it, a Keyboard and a Mouse, you'll get a much better Computer, than the old iMac 5K for nearly the same Price. No, the Studio Display is not overpriced. And if you are grownup like me, the 60Hz Refresh isn't an Issue. This is just important for Kids, playing stupid Games.
27 inch for retina is just the sweet spot. I also bought it about two months ago after thinking about it since it’s launch, but I haven’t regret it. As a Mac user it’s good, because they are no other good options. It’s expensive, but it’s worth it if you are the right user. Plus for me, I can game on it with my HP laptop using thunderbolt which at 60 it’s ok for me (and for the gpu). The instant on, the reliability, the aesthetics, the all in one saving design (webcam, speakers, microphone), are just great. And specially when it’s a work tool, you just want something that “works”. Great intro.
I bought one and I’m loving it. Speakers sounds great when I want to listen to music causally and it’s great to be able to edit videos/photos with confidence knowing that the colors I’m seeing are accurate.
Beautiful! Truly LOVE the quality of Apple! When I saw this in the Apple Store, I instantly knew why it was expensive. The screen is the usual gorgeous Apple standard. PERFECT colour calibration and typography simply pops on it! Beautiful :)
Off topic, but one of the things why I like your videos is, that they are super calming and I just forget about the world for few minutes :). Even when I'm not planning to buy the Apple Studio Dislpay, I still watched this vid from start to finish(lol). They are also super informative and valuable of course. 90% of my time I edit on my M2 Macbook Air and from time to time I connect it to my Asus ProArt Display. It's color accurate and calibrated, but I still prefer the Macbook so i kinda know what you mean by sticking with the apple ecosystem.
I've got the LG 5k2k ultra wide, and it's amazing. you do have to deal with the non-native display scaling, but I haven't had any issues with it personally. Text looks sharp and colors are fantastic.
What do you mean by non-native scaling? Isn't the panel virtually similar to the one in Studio Display, in terms of the amount of physical pixels? 🤔 Or, do you mean that a Mac outputs a 4K picture to the LG display, which is then scaled to 5K? (I had this happen on an older macOS with the Studio Display (even though both devices "should" support 5K), and that was extremely tiring to watch for more than a few seconds. This forces one to update to at least macOS 12.) - Eero
I dunno.... I guess that the wake time has never bothered me. I've had issues where it hasn't remembered that it's connected, but that's so infrequent, and I think the ultra wide is more than worth it. @@Deathignator
Once you realize you work at a monitor all week long, all year long, and it dawns on you that means a significant fraction of your life encompasses said monitor, it is neither crazy nor really a luxury to buy a monitor that is what you need. Divide $1600 by 2000 hours/year by 10 years, and the daily cost is almost nothing.
I really think Apple put some design flaws in the Studio display to make the XDR display more appealing. Like the unremovable power cord and the fixed stand… besides that, best monitor!
It's so hard to find a good affordable external display! Because of that, I'm editing on my Macbook because I can't stand the bad displays compared to the one on the MacBook Pro M1.
I just got me one. I skipped the whole "it's expensive, let me try something else" and went for the real deal. Worth mentioning I got a refurbished one with regular stand with 15% off (from 1779€ to 1500€ after Taxes in Spain). I spent a week refreshing the Refurbished site every other hour or so. The awaited caption eventually showed up "there are no products, come back later", that's the message for the site product update, held my breath, refreshed every 15' and voilà. Loving it.
5k and 120 Hz are not possible using TB3 and TB4, so it's a technology limitation. Looking at all 5k screens on the market - they are all in 1500 usd territory, while apple beats them all in quality. So the price is justified. It's a best screen money can buy right now, especially for Mac.
It's definitely a great screen. I just got one with the vesa mount & the Humanscale 2.1 monitor arm so I can move the screen back & forth , up & down ( even into portrait mode) very easily & costing less than the Apple tilt & height adjustable stand...... BONUS !
I'm still using my 27" LED Cinema Display that I bought in 2009 and bought converters to work with M series Macs, love how Apple Displays last decades, I want to buy the Studio, but $1600 jut feels wrong when I know I can walk out the store with another Macbook Pro for the same price. If only it came down to $1000, i'd buy 2.
Honestly, when I first heard that you picked the Dell monitor, I was really surprised. So I need to ask, have you considered any other brands of professional photo/video monitors like Eizo or maybe BenQ or ViewSonic (ViewSonic gets a lot of praise, as far as I know). Does the 5K resolution really have serious use on a 27" screen? I mean, isn't it an overkill? From what I heard, from the typical viewing distance 2K is enough for 27" and 4K for 32" but I edit on my laptop just like you used to do so that's why I'm asking 😁
It’s mostly gotta do with how macOS handles display scaling. There are tons of videos out there about why 5k is “needed” for macOS, but I’ve been using a 4k screen, and haven’t seen any of the soft text people warn about, and I’m a pretty particular individual, but your mileage may vary.
I've been using a 27" 5K iMac since 2016, and have to admit that I cannot go back. Everything lesser now happens to appear eye-tiring within seconds. 🤷 But everybody is different, of course. - Eero
I think this does make sense and that a Monitor is a long term investment definitely is true! My Dell at my home studio has served me well for at least 7 years tho and i never had an issue 😃 In case you ever would be interested in headphones to edit with for a long time i‘d recommend the Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 80ohm. I‘m editing with them for years, wearing glasses and they are incredibly comfortable and sound great and nicely balanced. Now i‘m looking forward to see if you keep being as happy with the Apple Display!
I bought one last month. Love it so much. I was previously using a Alienware 34DW or a HP Envy 27" 4K but this one is much nicer. Normal height is fine for me (for reference I'm 175 cm tall) (5'8")
wow, you compared with ultrawide, but you chose 5K 27 inch. I did not have a chance to compare with 38 ultrawide, but I chose Apple Studio Display. I sometimes wish the 27 inch is a bit small, but it is not a big complain.
I just bought one as well. It matches my MacBook. A lot of money, but I got it on sale. I'm happy to have it. The bezels are the larger than what I'm used to-but if I'm looking at bezels, than I'm not editing! There are not very many 5k displays on the market. That and the sale pushed me over the edge.
It's a great screen with an incredible design (what the 27" iMac should've been). For $1,600, it's still up there in price...But if you can find one used or on sale for under $1,500, I think it's a tad more justifiable. It just feels like for $1,600, you can buy a new M2 Pro Base Model MBP (AN ENTIRE COMPUTER WITH AN AMAZING SCREEN).
I don’t see why that’s dumb. Apple engineers are perfectionists. Well-built things is what their customers expect and value. I don’t see why they would suddenly add a cheap pedestal like its competition is already doing. A 1600$ precisely-engineered display on a cheap stand? Doesn’t make sense to me.
@@ThomasVanhelden imo, at minimum, tilt and height adjustments are quite the norm and expected for office monitors these days, it's not rare that stand-based monitors are put to VESA mount later on. Given the base price, which seems to be a lot for many, of course people question features, the cost of extra addons and no wonder that it does feel like Apple is basically trying to capitalize due to lack of competition in this area. Things/discussions/expectations would have been very different if MacOS supported scaling like Windows, so it is what it is for now: either take it or continue on a laptop display or except scaling compromise/issues. Let's see what upcoming Asus ProArt displays will bring
Apple Cinema Display's with DisplayPort are from 2008 till 2010 or something. I've used one until this summer when I upgrade to the Studio Display as well. That served me more than 13 years... insane. I have to say. When Apple releases a 32 inch 120hz 6k mini-led screen in 5 years, I'm going to upgrade. The MacBook-screen is amazing, so would love to see that kind of quality on the big screens.
This display tech is basically 9 years old right now. It's the same thing as the 2014 5k iMac minus some minor brightness and P3 color improvements. It's just insane price to pay $1,600 for a non-HDR 60hz LED display when we are almost in 2024. Anyone who buys this display is going to want to upgrade as soon as Apple releases a new version with Mini LED which will smoke this thing.
This thing looks awesome. I love my ASUS ProArt Display, and it's a really great monitor for the price. One day when the funds are there, I'm definitely upgrading to an Apple Studio Display. Great video!
recently new Asus ProArt monitors have been announced, one of which is 27' 5k, waiting for a release and reviews as Samsung S9 turned out to be a somewhat controversial option, but if it goes down to 800-900 EUR on sales then maybe maybe. I'd like to try matte 27 5k for text and see whether it will make any sense. ASD with nano + height adjustment is 2.5k+ EUR in Finland, plus I'm quite certain that within 2-3.5 years we will see a 120Hz version.
So I was considering buying one, but actually ended up getting a great deal on a 2020 iMac 27 5k. It's essentially the exact same display with a full Mac integrated into it and I actually still really like the look even with the bezels. I know Intel Macs are no longer made but it still runs perfectly and I love it. I got the 3.3ghz i5 with 32gb of ram and a 512gb SSD for $650! Sick deal off eBay.
I'm a fan of the display although your cons are on point. Height adjustabiity problem? Stick it on a shelf or as I have mine on two books. Problem solved.
First of all, the most important thing is that the monitor has hardware calibration (to calibrate it to the Rec.709 Gamma 2.4 standard at 6500K and 100 nits) so that it can be connected (must have an HDMI or SDI connector) via a video card or breakout box (for example Blackmagic UltraStudio 4K Mini) to output a clean signal to the monitor. All this cannot be done with Studio Display, so this screen is automatically disqualified for professional color work. I use LG OLED Pro (32EP950-B) as a reference monitor, and as a GUI I use Studio Display's brother which is LG UltraFine 5K for Mac.
Can't agree more, and actually I think the overall experience the display provides such as quick wake from sleep, auto-brightness or keyboard controls for volume are not possible to get from any other display, except maybe the LG 5k which is really ugly IMHO.
This is such an awesome display with the only real downside being the 60z, this is so frustrating and it's visible when using any of their ProMotion laptops side by side with this, it's really unfortunate :( - the second they release a ProMotion version of this, I'm getting one!
@@TeppoHaapoja Do you turn it off on the MacBook? - it's not so much "using" it, it's just everything is a lot more fluid. When you minimise a window, it's smooth on a 120hz display and a bit choppy on a 60hz one, scrolling through photos, using the gesture on the mouse to show the desktop, you can see it's smooth on the laptop but a bit choppy on the studio display, just day to day stuff. I'm not much of a gamer but it's also very noticeable in games.
There are just SO many better options. If you are worried about vibration on your monitor, get a VESA mount. The arm absorbs all but the biggest shocks. Plus, this this is already long in the tooth. You didn't know that there are other options for the color space? You used the word ecosystem maybe 10 times but there is NOTHING built into this monitor that gives you any ecosystem advantage AT ALL. You could have bought 2 equivvelent displays and vesa mounts for this price.
Laziest reply ever and I"m living the reality of being correct on that one.I have 2 5K panels that supply 96W of power and have multiple USB 3 ports each, plus high speed ethernet with a nice 50" OLED mounted above on my wall. You are wrong. @@carlospcpro
Happy for you but the story makes no sense. There are way better pro monitors to edit photos (BenQ, ProArt). Why you waited one year ? I am sorry but a nonOLED, nonMiniLED 60hz is so 2000 tech, and you buy it in 2023? Sorry, you drank the Kool aid.
What made you choose this instead of just getting an iMac? I just bought a new MacBook and also want a bigger display for editing but I'm conflicted on whether I should just get a display or an iMac. Thanks!!!!
