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I flew every Betaflight 4.2 PID preset. The best one blew my mind. 

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I flew every one of the Betaflight 4.2 PID presets, and one of them was WAY BETTER than the others.
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@haks_123
@haks_123 Год назад
This man has made every video known to man on the hobby of fpv. You search one thing and joshua bardwell is literally everywhere
@MactacFPV
@MactacFPV 4 года назад
"I feel really in control and I don't know why". Love it.
@Duracell-BenGi
@Duracell-BenGi 4 года назад
Joshua you really improving! Im watching all your videos for a while now and im starting to see new things in your freestyle sessions!! Keep it up man 🤙
@skyraidfpv6753
@skyraidfpv6753 4 года назад
I'm learning a lot today. I'm basically bingeing all your BF 4.1 and 4.2 vids to tune my quads. Great stuff!
@MiniMicroFPV
@MiniMicroFPV 4 года назад
I think I shall be trying the Cinematic preset this weekend;) Thanks for the demo!
@jlarson42
@jlarson42 4 года назад
Very interesting. Looking forward to seeing your in-depth videos on BF 4.2 Happy flying, 🤓
@Marshcar
@Marshcar 4 года назад
Always enjoy your vids Josh!
@athefpv4670
@athefpv4670 4 года назад
Nice content as always! Love the new end videos!
@brandonwoodford579
@brandonwoodford579 4 года назад
I always watch till the end.
@waterdropmusic
@waterdropmusic 4 года назад
Man I love your channel! :D
@traviscook5144
@traviscook5144 4 года назад
I really really enjoy watching these
@digilogic1812
@digilogic1812 4 года назад
Yes JB I watch all your vids all the way to the end lol!
@andreapiacentin8396
@andreapiacentin8396 4 года назад
Til the end! 👍😂 Anyway that's really good to know as always.. Thanks man
@FOOTSMACK3
@FOOTSMACK3 4 года назад
I always watch till the end. Lol. Iv learned a lot from watching your videos.
@AggieRC
@AggieRC 4 года назад
You star! I was going mad trying to figure out what didn't feel right and how to fix it with the default pids, went with this approach and now my hawk is singing again. I learned something today.
@tribefpv
@tribefpv 4 года назад
That last pack bro was sweet your throttle control really good 👍
@acommon
@acommon 4 года назад
Your tricks in this one looked super smooth
@drewparks1616
@drewparks1616 4 года назад
Dude! Great stuff! I didn't know about the presets
@TimeFadesMemoryLasts
@TimeFadesMemoryLasts 4 года назад
There is a lot of info in the Betaflight wiki
@drewparks1616
@drewparks1616 4 года назад
@@TimeFadesMemoryLasts Great point, I'll have to look into that, and do some research. I'm pretty new to the hobby, so you guys are all really helpful!
@grassfpv1876
@grassfpv1876 4 года назад
I been at bf for 3yrs now and never new about presets. U fond those in the wiki or github?
@grassfpv1876
@grassfpv1876 4 года назад
Also liked the ferris bueler reff at the end
@TimeFadesMemoryLasts
@TimeFadesMemoryLasts 4 года назад
@@grassfpv1876 There's always a new wiki entry on github called "BF x.x Tuning notes" when a new version of BF comes out
@elxero2189
@elxero2189 4 года назад
I got that same woah feeling when I tried the Cinematic preset... I never flew circles round a tree that steady before and my twitchy stick inputs were all smoothed out. That was really awesome!
@sergeyzhelezko
@sergeyzhelezko 4 года назад
Soooo... how different is it in comparison to just raising your expo on rates?
@RatFink_fpv
@RatFink_fpv 4 года назад
Great Job!!!
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
Get the Betaflight 4.2 presets here: github.com/betaflight/betaflight/wiki/4.2-Tuning-Notes#quick-settings
@805fpv3
@805fpv3 3 года назад
that intro is tooo funny lol God bless you Joshua and all
@RcMcNutt
@RcMcNutt 4 года назад
I'm confused. I learned something today, but you dodn't tell me I was going to. Sooo did I really learn something today?
@lucasajaeger
@lucasajaeger 4 года назад
Haha
@stevekoptyra4082
@stevekoptyra4082 4 года назад
Haha great video as always and nice ending by the way
@WayneGrant
@WayneGrant 4 года назад
4th :) thanks for the vidz, always entertaining!
@bobbym3155
@bobbym3155 4 года назад
Those sideways flips were so moth. Great flying. Trying 4.2 out this evening:)
@timoherrmann7959
@timoherrmann7959 4 года назад
This should be in the BF 4.2 playlist, to have all 4.2 specific videos in one place. I will definetly try the cinematic preset.
@TheCombatFighter
@TheCombatFighter 4 года назад
I have been flying with 4.2 since rc1, as a beginner I find this 4.2 to be really nice. One thing I was surprised is how good the filters work. Had a bad crash and lost my soft mounts, now the fc is hard mounted with steel bolts and nylon nuts. I have rpm filter enabled and sliders pushed to 2.0 and so far no problems.
@MrVlodato
@MrVlodato 4 года назад
they should just put those presets in a drop down in rate setting tab
@zero-voltzfpv5715
@zero-voltzfpv5715 4 года назад
That would be awesome to have them on a switch
@rmhfpv9225
@rmhfpv9225 4 года назад
I wish I could set a profile for the entire setting group of cli. then I could flip back and forth in the goggles without needing cli/laptop
@bizmar
@bizmar 4 года назад
Bf is hesitant to include presets, becouse a new version of the configuration has to be downloaded for each change.. so if a preset was damaging quads it would be hard to change.. if somebody would code the infrastructure to update the presete on the fly, they would be there. But so far nobody has volunteered the time to do that...
@WillHsuAerial
@WillHsuAerial 4 года назад
Best intro ever!
@fawkeyes5111
@fawkeyes5111 4 года назад
you describe it perfectly :DD that's how i feel since bf4.2 too.
@audiogek
@audiogek 4 года назад
And the reason my next build will be Kiss. Because it's not that bad making your own pizza, but they keep changing the toppings
@peterzingler6221
@peterzingler6221 4 года назад
@@audiogek for that reason I'm just sticking with 3.5.7 and good
@53roger
@53roger 4 года назад
@@peterzingler6221, I flew and really liked 3.5.7 UNTIL last week. I setup 4.1 with the RPM settings per Jb's vid. It flies as good or better than 3.5.7 plus easier to change GPS/RTH settings. I'm very happy with 4.1 and now MAYBE take a look at 4.2
@stefankellenberger8315
@stefankellenberger8315 4 года назад
Yes allways to the End- ilove it
@therustyfareye
@therustyfareye 4 года назад
...that HD cinematic tune looks like it's on rails....🤘😎💨
@kmarsdenelectrical
@kmarsdenelectrical 4 года назад
Is it hd or cinematic Cant see a hd cinematic preset
@ModitRC
@ModitRC 4 года назад
3 packs a day is good. I did this back in 2012 to get good at LOS quad acro. You can do more than 3, and on rainy days fly an indoor quad. It works! In 3 months time you will see a huge difference! You are already pretty good btw. I need to do tjis as well, my fpv flying could use some help
@PESKII
@PESKII 4 года назад
That's the one preset I haven't tried yet 😂 thank you sir
@GardoRotor
@GardoRotor 4 года назад
Nice Ferris Bueller reference at the end there!!! LOL
@WrongWayFPV
@WrongWayFPV 4 года назад
Everytime JB hits a branch.. do a shot 😂🤣😂🤣
@tehllama42
@tehllama42 4 года назад
Im shioken i cn even findmhy keyboarn wih this challenhth
@bengmo64
@bengmo64 4 года назад
Your practice program is giving you results! As fellow beard owner, you gotta find a conditioner that works for you.
@yyin88
@yyin88 4 года назад
I tried the cinematic setting, then my motor 3 starts acting weird. all motors arm fine but 3 shuts down when takes off. then I flash with JESC ( I panicked....), but 3 motors showed flash failed, motor 1, 2, and 4, not the problem 3. so I'm starting all over again as if I first got this quad. I hope I'm not making it worse. how strange is it.
@meh0420
@meh0420 11 месяцев назад
This man deserves more than he gets !!!
@zimzillakilla
@zimzillakilla 4 года назад
@JB, you overlooked an important part of the 4.2 puzzle, make sure to turn off the ADC filters on openTX radios, the device where clear to do so before attempting running some of the more aggressive scripts (even if turning xfireshot).
@RCOverKill
@RCOverKill 4 года назад
I like BF, but sometimes I wish I had a chef around to teach me how to cook with all the new ingrediants,lol Thanks JB.
@seagullhunterfpv
@seagullhunterfpv 4 года назад
I'll be try these out very soon. They look decent
@jayjaghla7310
@jayjaghla7310 4 года назад
Would you recommend Cinematic PIDs for someone just learning to fly?
@nicklitt
@nicklitt 4 года назад
"Hold on, my beard itches" Been there haha
@SkyCandyVisuals
@SkyCandyVisuals 3 года назад
Jb about to have everyone flying cine presets 😆 gonna go load it up now...
@aleeezena
@aleeezena 3 года назад
For extra weight (camera, or bigger battery etc) how do you change your PIDs. There is any general rules? Thx a lot.
@Ryan-ek3wx
@Ryan-ek3wx 4 года назад
What are you running for rates and deg/s these days? Looks smooth and responsive.
@FPVStyle
@FPVStyle 4 года назад
Hello very nice videos I love your channel 👍. I want to build a new freestyle copter and looking for good motors which motor you can recommend? Parts what I will use to build 4s lipo, f7 flight controller, armattan rooster frame 4 in 1 esc F55A T-Motor. Thanks for your help
@hoboman0001
@hoboman0001 4 года назад
Luv u Bardwell ❤️
@purefpv3987
@purefpv3987 4 года назад
I want to build a 5inch freestyle but I'm not great with betaflight would a 4.2 preset be the best option for me? I have a 5inch which was tuned for my by someone else but that's not an option anymore, I also fly a tinyhawk 2 freestyle I would love it if anyone had improved the pids
@pleiadianpilot5076
@pleiadianpilot5076 4 года назад
Are there any parameters set for three inch sir? I still cant get my gecko flying right on 4.1.2
@lucarednic7658
@lucarednic7658 3 года назад
Nice end part
@jorgeromero4680
@jorgeromero4680 4 года назад
is there a possibility to make a comparison between betaflight and emuflight? i mean the latest versions...
@birdman316
@birdman316 4 года назад
great flyin bro! lets orbit a lil bit......BAMM!! awww man i drifted out too far and smakked the post lol!!
@Ender_FPV
@Ender_FPV 4 года назад
Saw that post on the way was cringing haha
@stu22uk
@stu22uk 4 года назад
I was initially super disappointed with 4.2 but maybe I'll give it another go. I had the same issues at the beginning, massive bounce backs/prop wash and bobbles that I could not tune out in the usual way, actually thought I had a weak motor/esc until I flashed back to original firmware/tune and was great again.
@TheMadmacs
@TheMadmacs 4 года назад
funny i remember a set point that made the quad feel telepathic, telepathic and slightly better pilot than me, like i would input sticks and the quad would say h he wants a 3/4 roll and then pull up, but i would make a twitchy mess of it, but set point thing completed the move like i was a pro, completely disconcerting hehehe, turned it off.
@stratoskoutroulis3720
@stratoskoutroulis3720 4 года назад
You might want to try disabling lpf1 on the gyro since it generally doesn't do anything on clean quads with Rpm filtering on 4.2. I would log it and check it out. Make sure you have 3 harmonics checked on Rpm filtering.
@skunk929
@skunk929 3 года назад
at 13:03, raise both sliders to 1.2? P and D gain, and P/D Balance? Thanks JB!
@TheXanUser
@TheXanUser 4 года назад
Amazing! But full flail on the the buffet vs sushi chef's choice analogy. @JB next time you are in in the North SF bay area, please let me take you to sushi!
@johntyer2200
@johntyer2200 4 года назад
Silly Question. Can/do FPV drones have Flight overlay in the goggles? things like a pitch ladder and such? i have seen some videos with it and wondered if it is only in after effects or if there are programs to do that live?
@tylerelliottFPV
@tylerelliottFPV 4 года назад
FPV quads generally have a configurable OnScreenDisplay (OSD) in real time flights.
@Isaac_Rogers
@Isaac_Rogers 4 года назад
First like comment and view bro I’m building my own fpv quad copter and you are helping me
@tehllama42
@tehllama42 4 года назад
I feel like this is "double rainbow" mixed with "JB meets Feedforward Transition and iTermRelax
@skunk929
@skunk929 3 года назад
Is it possible to put the cinematic preset on a switch on the taranis and be able to alternate between that and default settings?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 года назад
No. You can't change pid profiles in flight. You can change them from the OSD or using stick commands, but only while disarmed.
@thiagosmith3019
@thiagosmith3019 4 года назад
Yes, till the end and subscribed :) is bf4.2 out?
@BenderTheOffender
@BenderTheOffender 4 года назад
RC3 is out and works well.
@Jake-dk4md
@Jake-dk4md 4 года назад
That beard is 🔥 joshua
@bizmar
@bizmar 4 года назад
Filtered RC and FF round off sudden stick stops, and that helps with minimising P wobbles.
@its_AlphaSloth
@its_AlphaSloth 4 года назад
All the way every time
@shareobj
@shareobj 2 года назад
Oh, I know this place. I've been there in LiftOff. 😀
@Stygmah
@Stygmah 4 года назад
Bardwell you are gem and must be protected at all costs. That intro, the banter with yourself, some humour, self-depreciation and humble-bragging - but as always I did learn something today. ❤
@filippolewaczyk
@filippolewaczyk 4 года назад
Is this presets are good for my 3 inch acro quad ?
@scooterfpv8864
@scooterfpv8864 4 года назад
4:51....."If you have to shoot, SHOOT ....don't talk" -Tuco, circa 1966. From the movie epic....The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. JK man. Good stuff and as always...Fascinating 🤔
@deshithahansajith7385
@deshithahansajith7385 4 года назад
Thanks joshua
@djwilson48625
@djwilson48625 4 года назад
On 10.7 and can not find any info on these presets. I looked on the wiki, is it a cli command or is it in BF somewhere? I just cant find it. I like the cinimatic setting from what I just watched. Thx.
@djwilson48625
@djwilson48625 4 года назад
Found it, was looking at wrong wiki...
@bradleydraifinger
@bradleydraifinger 4 года назад
tell us about those new axii 2 duo's!
@johnk8825
@johnk8825 4 года назад
Nice ending.
@K_Nasty
@K_Nasty 4 года назад
I broke my first frame and got my new one today.Next time im juat going to spring for a legit one. I need to see if its worth it.i would have to told steel to keep those props.and that tune at the end was abrupt but smooth. Very nice
@drc022800
@drc022800 4 года назад
Steele props are smooth asf idk what you’re talking bout
@K_Nasty
@K_Nasty 4 года назад
With such a low pitch I just dont have the confidence I do with a set of HQ 4.3. Trying different props is one of the best parts of this. I'll try them again . I just broke my frame and transplanted the parts. Maybe I'll like them better on this setup. And id take any free props . just talking shit . steel is just like me . a dick.
@minkorrh
@minkorrh 4 года назад
TL;DR.......Betaflight has figured out how to make 'flow' into a setting. Joshua, I have to say thank you for your advice about dumping any previous notion of PIDS and using the sliders from scratch in 4.2.1 and another video where you talk about expo. I have struggled for nearly 3 years to get 'gud', not knowing what RCExpo actually does and never played with it. Well, last night I set some expo up with a few tweaks of the sliders from default and well, lets just say there's no more panicking for small gaps, split s' are snappy, flat and accurate, smooth flying fast an inch from the ground is a no-brainer and the quad essentially just does what I want when I want. I have some high throttle oscillations that I need to get rid of though......Less p-term?
@trigatupp
@trigatupp 4 года назад
What’s your favorite preset ? Loved your ending, swear you copied that from Ferris Bueller’s Day Off
@immortalsofar7977
@immortalsofar7977 4 года назад
Where do you find these presets? Link anyone?
@johnkurpiewski3996
@johnkurpiewski3996 4 года назад
Why don’t I hear about expos in controls when it comes to drones? I’m assuming you can tone down the center stick for more subtle corrections . I haven’t made the jump yet from wings . But looking to sooner than later . Still in my research phase .
@MachuFrey
@MachuFrey 4 года назад
John Kurpiewski we used to change expos on the transmitter as well but as flight controllers got better that moved over to the FC. all the expos are now handled by the FC
@marinehm
@marinehm Год назад
I'm embarrassed, I just switched from BF 4.0 to 4.3 just the other day. Too much fun just flying... Now you got my attention with presets. Can you do an in-depth under-the-hood explanation of what's going on with the couple of ELRS presets? JB Style!
@carlgill5946
@carlgill5946 4 года назад
The force is with you my friend! Great flying sir.. Oh and im curious if you teach your kids how to fly? Or actually im not sure how many kids you have or there ages. Your wife does she fly? I cant get my girlfriend to hardly even put the goggles on or hold my transmitter...lol
@andytheman72
@andytheman72 3 года назад
I'm new. How do i add these presets?
@joni-mirfpv6976
@joni-mirfpv6976 3 года назад
Hello Joshua, can i get your Freestyle Preset B.F 4.2 H.D ?
@benfoust1
@benfoust1 4 года назад
yes i watch to the end i love you senpai
@BitcoinTheo
@BitcoinTheo 4 года назад
anyone know how you dump these settings into our cli? when I do it it just copy and paste it doesn't seem to change anything?
@donbroyles4802
@donbroyles4802 4 года назад
you have to type SAVE then hit enter
@mr.m.4887
@mr.m.4887 4 года назад
Thumbs up, Joshua, that's great stuff! I didn't tried the "Cinematic" for the fear of "dull" flight feel - until now! Will check it out tomorrow :-)
@sergeyzhelezko
@sergeyzhelezko 4 года назад
How was it?
@mr.m.4887
@mr.m.4887 4 года назад
@@sergeyzhelezko it was OK, but in the end I use a slightly different setting in some points.
@mr.m.4887
@mr.m.4887 4 года назад
set vbat_sag_compensation = 100 set anti_gravity_gain = 5000 set feedforward_transition = 40 set iterm_relax_cutoff = 11 set iterm_windup = 75 set yaw_lowpass_hz = 50 set throttle_boost = 10 set throttle_boost_cutoff = 10 set ff_spike_limit = 50 set ff_smooth_factor = 50 set ff_boost = 30 set ff_interpolate_sp = AVERAGED_2 set rc_smoothing_derivative_type = PT1 set rc_smoothing_auto_smoothness = 40 set thrust_linear = 20 set dyn_lpf_dterm_curve_expo = 7 set gyro_rpm_notch_q = 800 Additionally I use dynamic idle with 20% off the RPM the quad shows in the motor tab at Dshot idle speed (usually 5,5% -> 1055 in tab). The ff_interpolate_sp = AVERAGED_2 I used with CRSFshot.
@valakimas3719
@valakimas3719 4 года назад
Would it be possible to set all these modes/presets to the switches? So you can just flip them and change your drones flying characteristics?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
No. Many of these parameters are stored in a PID profile and cannot be switched in flight.
@asterixadm
@asterixadm 4 года назад
@@JoshuaBardwell but You can have different PID profiles on the switch with different presets right?
@princesfpvdrones
@princesfpvdrones 4 года назад
Yup, I watch your videos to the end..lol..heee..heee
@Eskatone
@Eskatone 4 года назад
Hey maybe the cinematic one is like the dynamics rates of emuflight 3.1 working with the feedforward :)
@Takeover738
@Takeover738 3 года назад
How do i install this cinematic preset in CLI do type set and paste?
@YogiIrfandi
@YogiIrfandi 3 года назад
yes, just copy, paste and save
@scramblerfpv7124
@scramblerfpv7124 4 года назад
I'm really digging that new line gap you found!
@Littlebearearthworks
@Littlebearearthworks 4 года назад
can we see what it looks like with the sliders etc?? the cinematic preset with sliders i mean!~
@bwasfpv
@bwasfpv 4 года назад
that antennas so big :)crazy
@tonysandvig1478
@tonysandvig1478 4 года назад
the 2nd video is what im talking about. dont think im gushing joshua. this is the style i hope to work from.
@mr.h.4501
@mr.h.4501 4 года назад
Your property is pretty cool.
@skinnyguy3184
@skinnyguy3184 2 года назад
Hay Joshua, with the presets do I just copy and paste into cli? Thankyou
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 2 года назад
Yes that's right. Then make sure to type "save" and hit enter.
@skinnyguy3184
@skinnyguy3184 2 года назад
Cool thanks mate, the other thing i wanted to ask is, did you move the pd balance to the right 1.2 or left because i am aware that p and d are revered in 4.2, thankyou
@GregQuillen
@GregQuillen 4 года назад
Now to hit liftoff and try this move.. the Bardwell twist
@stone_fpv2599
@stone_fpv2599 4 года назад
I have a question. If I fly my pack ( 1300 mah Lipo 4s 100c ) on my 5“ Quad, and my voltage is down completely, I only used 200-400 mah or so. Is that normal? What’s happening here? Could it be that my ampere indicator is wrong? Because it seems to show relatively low values. Maybe it’s for one ESC only.
@MattiaMastroianni
@MattiaMastroianni 4 года назад
what voltage does it go down to, and does this happen on all your batteries?
@stone_fpv2599
@stone_fpv2599 4 года назад
MM I usually stop flying at 3.5V per cell. I read some articles and I think I need to calibrate my current sensors.
@MattiaMastroianni
@MattiaMastroianni 4 года назад
@@stone_fpv2599 what voltage is displayed before you take off?
@stone_fpv2599
@stone_fpv2599 3 года назад
I calibrated my current sensors. Now everything is working perfectly. Thanks for you help.
@daemn42
@daemn42 4 года назад
Wouldn't it make sense to link to the page with all the BF 4.2 presets you're talking about and flying?
@stratoskoutroulis3720
@stratoskoutroulis3720 4 года назад
It is in the betaflight 4.2 tuning notes
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
Yes it's in the pinned comment at the top of the comments section.
@daemn42
@daemn42 4 года назад
@@JoshuaBardwell Weird, I don't see any pinned comments. I looked there first. I don't see any now. And yes, I know how to search for it, but that wasn't really the point.
@antonlammers1454
@antonlammers1454 4 года назад
@@daemn42 same here
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