@@angelcelis9090 100% he fucked himself terribly, that’s why you never use a shop your unfamiliar with or you have someone you personally know and trust with cars who can vouch for the shop either way you need to be able to trust the shop to do a proper papi especially if your paying them 200-300$ for it. Bc they should have caught all those problems without question and its clear they either scammed him (the shop) for the 200-300$ or worse they collaborated with the R8 seller bc he could have paid them as well and he’d be none the wiser if the R8 seller had done so, either way he made such a rookie mistake buying this car and wy he’s now out 100k and no longer even has the car! Talk about taking a major L which all could have been avoided if he’d had gone and seen the car himself.
- Didnt fly out to see a stupidly expensive exotic car with 65k+ miles. - Only did the vin check after receiving the car - Paid an unfamiliar shop only $2-$300 for a full teardown inspection on an exotic car - Paid and handed over his own vehicle along with everything else listed above. - Continues to drive a car with a bad transmission knowing parts have to be replaced then **surprised Pikachu face** when the transmission fully blows up. It's really hard to feel bad for this guy.
This. So much this. This is exactly why I just draining my savings to buy a brand new car that I will modify slowly instead of picking up the used version and throwing the extra into the mods.
I have to strongly disagree with you. I’m in a fb group dedicated to selling built cars and there’s plenty of clean builds on the market. I’m building my own rn and this isn’t the easier path by any means 🤣
All I'm hearing is that you listened to a bunch of parts changers who never once diagnosed the car. The AC was a big red flag for wiring. You can't simply listen to the code. It's just a reference point on where to start. When it blew the first fuse at the shop, the harness should have been inspected.
I got mildly ripped off on a truck once. The only way I buy is this. Negotiate the price, get a bank check, get the cheapest plane ticket. Go look at, touch etc. Do the final transaction at a bank. I'll drive it back or bring it to a delivery service (depending on how far). If the car doesn't pan out, a cheap plane ticket home.... My only problem is when the car is at a cool city, my wife wants to come along. Makes my $500 budget adventure turn into a $1500 long weekend.
You didn't get scammed. It's your fault that you didn't do your homework thoroughly before handing your truck and the differences of cash over. I would never simply just swap shiet over with that much value without doing extensive checks on all of the shiet on that other car first. Even at equal value. We both go to reputable mutual agreement shop to check everything out first on both cars.
I remember the previous r8 owner posting it for sale specifically calling out it had “good compression”. Definitely felt sketchy reading that post back then.
@@lassikinnunen I think he is saying, the fact only someone who had worries about compression would put that in the bio of selling a car. IF the car was in real perfect condition they wouldn't even mention a lick about compression
It takes stones to publicly acknowledge bad financial experiences. Brother, don't beat yourself up too hard. A lot of us have done that type of thing. We all live and learn. Yours was pretty expensive, though, but I'll share a couple that I lost $$$ on... * I picked up a 2012 C6 Grand Sport, 5,000 mi. in perfect condition, in 2015 for $45.5. I put over $60k into it, 900HP, E85 built motor, ran great. But when I went to sell it, obviously, I took a hell of a beating. I shouldn't have sold that car, it was perfect. * 2021 I bought a high performance boat during the crazy covid shit. When I sold it, I lost well over $30k. * I recently picked up a new 2023 Durango Hellcat for $89,500. It's depreciation is dropping Like a Rock I'm sure. The point is, if you are in the hobby, it is very, very expensive, no doubt. I personally have done good with the purchases, but when I sell them, I get beat to hell. I don't like the hassle with trying to get top dollar. I'm sure my Durango will be the same thing, but I do plan to keep it forever (LOL).
@@1kontrabida the wiring repair is just two wires overlaid and just out in the open so bound to happen again, leaking oil, intercooler pump wasn’t plugged in. Then found the fuse and wiring for it all melted. There’s a boost leak. The list goes on and on. I got screwed to because the car was supposed to go to an exotic shop for inspection before purchase and Turned out it didn’t. I just got sent a bs multi report sheet
Damn.... Yea I thought that kit looked really weird, glad you traded it in.. Hope you have better luck with the BMW. Karma will catch this kid, I'm sure he blow the motor but played it off..
The problem was you were avoiding diagnostic cost. If you took it to a shop and have them diagnose the car, instead of asking questions over the phone with just codes, you can blame anyone but yourself. And Yes the seller did screwed you over.
Don't get me wrong, you did get scammed but from a mechanic perspective you should've went after wiring or electrical systems first before you decide it's a mechanical problem, you come out cheaper In the long run cause it's not as or near as expensive to solve and fix an electrical issue versus trying to just throw money and parts and hope it solves the problem
I’m glad you made the mistake so nobody else would have to and more over. I’m glad you made a video on it. Detailing your pain and suffering. you’re a respectable man.
As a technician for over thirty years they let you down. You are not supposed to guess what's wrong, you're supposed to properly diagnose the customer concern. Playing guessing games is what they did that cost you so much money. Whenever a fuse is blown you should check the wiring. Those shops are just as guilty as the person that sold you the car. If something seems fishy stay away from it especially with those large amounts of money.
A Audi R8 V10 is my dream car too so I can definitely understand the pain and the journey trying to make it work. I’d definitely say blast the seller you got it from. He could’ve been honest with a few of the issues.
Goes to show. Even the shops with all the hype are clueless… it’s always better to build your self. If anything goes bad it’s your lesson and you’ll learn from it or quit trying. As soon as you saw a blown fuse, someone should have been trying to track down a short.
Really tough when someone takes advantage of something you really want. The R8 used to be my absolute favorite car so I can understand. Good lessons to learn.
In the UK modified cars are always worth less regardless of mods and money spent, once it's not standard, tuned it's trouble, period. Sorry for your loss.
Dude you made sone mistakes with that car. You should have had a more thorough inspection with your own expert rather than relying on corruptible processes for assurance.
You have to trust your gut when dealing with cars. If it seems sketch, it probably is. It doesn't help that most people only trade cars because they have issues and want something else.
The wiring was the whole issue , wasted 40 grand on transmission work you never needed. And the fact you spent 30 grand on a transmission rebuild is a crime in itself
Dang brother. This story just breaks my heart but I can relate. I never lost THAT much but what I did lose broke me. Still recovering from a bad buy (fraudulant title). So I'm sure you learned from that mistake and glad it didnt have any major repercussions.
I'm pretty sure we've all been there I think, it's not all on you man there are people like JOHN everywhere, these people don't care because they get what they want..!
When I had my C5 Corvette, I recall seeing in the forum, a common issue with many in which the dash would light up with all kinds of warning lights. It turns out the wiring bundle that went from the door into the engine bad was getting pinched, resulting in insulation being rubbed down until bare wires shorted against each other. Bad design Then the EBCM would fail because of one component....insufficient duration testing by GM Then the rear-mounted smog pump check valve would fail every few years....insufficient duration testing by GM Early door lock module failures......same root cause I could go on and on, but I learned the hard way that if a stock vehicle has problems, modifications may make things worse. THAT'S why I never considered a newer Corvette. GM and electronics/electrical wiring don't mix. Audis are not known to be much better.
I bought a golf r and a similar thing has happened to me. Owner was dishonest, car also passed Dekra testing and was quote on quote perfect. It’s now leaking oil and I’m having to put like 3k in to fixing it. People like this should be jailed and charged with a crime.
I've always been a built not bought kinda guy. I like to do all of my own work unless it's something that involves specialty tools. It's a sense of accomplishment I guess.
thanks for throwing a warning out there ' and warn people. that electrical wiring probably threw bunch of gremlins out. So, Sad man. So much money. Wish you kept the r35 GT-R.
Giving up on your dream car after a year…. Bro my build isn’t even my dream car and it’s been acting up for 3 years now. Melting wiring harnesses, tires rubbing on intercooler piping, blowing fuel lines are just a few of my issues off the top of my head. It’s all part of the adventure!
The screen capture of the text message from the PPI said “zero issues that I could find”. That would make me question the thoroughness of his inspection, as every used car has issues. And him adding the plausible deniability phrase “that I could find” makes it that much more of a red flag.
Your mind went to a faulty transmission because someone said that the car might have had issues on 3rd gear before, so you probably asked is this a transmission fault looking for that confirmation. This is why its good to get fresh eyes on the car from someone who don't have that bias, and on the phone doesn't count!!
As soon as it blew the fuse you should have known it was an electrical issue. I would be blaming whoever did the pre inspection on it and whoever diagnosed the transmission issue.
Total spent is north of 240K + headaches + time + excuses and finger pointing > new MSRP + dealership because I can charge. Great lesson on car buying 101. Bottom line is test drive yourself before buying.
You spent 30k because you had bad diag! Immediately when all lights came on and the camera issue, I would've told you to tear the car down a bit and inspect the entire harness. When that fuse blew you definitely should've inspect the diagram to see what does the fuse protect. This could've been a $2k job at solo motorsports
Man that story made me sick to my stomach, bro. A 1dy return plane ticket would’ve been expensive but not $80k expensive. Buying a car like that and not test driving it or taking it to a trusted shop is insanity. Also, buying a heavily modified car for going price of stock car is both no-no and a red flag that they know the car has issues and are just baiting you that you can get this modded car for stock car price lol.
Life lessons it’s how we learn. You won’t do that again. That’s how I’d look at it you won’t get had again. Good video, why is it anytime I hear sheep’s name it’s always attached to something negative lol
Sorry to hear about the car. Do you remember what area the 30 amp fuse was that kept blowing? I’m actually dealing with a similar situation. Bought Huracan at auction; rear camera doesn’t work, rear harness was rubbing up against wheel. They gutted the heat shields when they did aftermarket exhaust and the main pyrofuse randomly blew one day and left me stranded. Trying to figure out why that happened. I’m gonna be checking harnesses now in the rear after watching your video.
This has been happening alot, since more people are buying used vehicles. Vin numbers being swapped, shotty work on transmissions and engine, and other damages hidden.
Yeah that sounds like a total nightmare. I can relate though wait till you hear this. I found an 06 Lincoln Town Car Signature Limited for sale here in AL. They wanted 14k for it and so I was thinking they either have a super nice car or they have lost there minds right. So I drove the four hours to go see the car and when I get there none of the actuators in the dash worked at all. It would blow cold air out the feet part of the dash but no where else. And the back vents were stuck on cold no heat in the back and this was at the end of winter time. The car had 70k miles on it and the rest of it was perfect so I offered 11k and they settled at 11700 bucks. It's dark cherry metallic which is an awesome color. It's kinda purple or dark red or maroon depending on the light and angle you look at but I love the thing. Everyone I know loves the thing and it's not just a regular old town car there's something special about it. There's about five of them in this town I live in but mine is the only V code eighth digit car with the rims I have. All the others are Y cars and have regular town car rims. Most of them are white but none the same color I got. Anyway about 2000 bucks has fixed the dash it had to come out, got some cat back exhaust it's super loud for a car with cats but it sounds really good. Everyone always says why are your exhaust tips not ran out the back? Well cuz I like em out the side behind the back tire. Oh and I just got a new master cylinder stopping was getting real sketchy there for a minute. I love my car man like nobody's business I paid to much but I don't even care. It was owned by an old dude who took really good care of it. There wasn't a speck of dust behind the dash. All the inspection marks are still there it's like it just rolled out brand new and I'm about to roll over the 75k mark.
Any mods I’m incapable of doing don’t get done . I figure it’s time to move up in a car . I’m sure there are guys you can trust but if something goes wrong I want to be the one that fixes it . Ive seen some terrible work from folks you would tell me are the best . One big tell if the mods look like the oem did it .
I bought a 2015 R8 V10 Competition model off the dealer floor. It was a wonderful car. In 2020 I had the money to put a twin turbo kit on the car. I contacted Henessey and they informed me they were no longer doing the upgrades. It’s probably a good thing. It only had 5500 miles on it when I was forced to sell it in divorce for only $84k. The dealer got a great deal.
@@LextasyNation Another bites the dust.. Henessey and Sheepy are on the lower end of the spectrum but still recognizable companies. UGR is simply worth the extra cash because you’ll know they’ll do a premium job as channel owner recommended.
My GTR is from RP Exotics, it was a 3rd party sell so the car is super mint. I was looking at a purple GTR at first from them and that shit was all jacked up so they wouldn’t make the sell during final inspection.
This guy is the reason I never tell a customer what may be the problem over the phone without having the vehicle or equipment in my possession to inspect. Sheepy got blamed for this guy replacing his transmission because they gave him some advice over the phone.
My buddy had a 2010 R8 V10 with a UGR 1400 kit on it, he fried ecu #1 two times, UGR took it, looked at it couldn't find a problem, long story short it ended up being a ground wire rubbing the firewall and shorting out a $4800 ecu with a 8 week lead Time...TWICE I think those cars are just too tight for these kits.
You dont understand 2nd hand market. 1st For the right price no questions asked. 2nd you know it is used and will require after purchase price 3rd know your technical diagnosis and repair capabilites 4th people may or maynot know all the problems before sale 5th consider the purchase price 6th give a thorough consideration of the internal intuition 7th now u understand the 1st. When the price is so low you know its going to cost to get ur ideal project. Now the mission is to spend the least to get it right
From nearly the beginning of when you started to describe these issues, i thought, grounding issues...wiring grimlins. After pulling engines + transmissions, then reinstalling them, the only time where the running state of a vehicle was that sketchy was if i didn't have all the right grounds getting good solid contact. In your case, it's shorting from a what sounds like a custom loom and ECU, but similar in downstream tendencies. Edit* ahhh man, and then you go and put gasoline on fire bring up the give a way car of Alex's 🤦
$160k for a 2017 R8 V10+ with 65k miles is crazy, $130k absolute max even with the turbo kit, you only got $125k because you traded it for a depreciating 5-Series that you probably paid a bit too much for let's be honest
And no way those motors dont handle 1500whp. Its recommended to stay below 1100whp. Go to boost it forwards channel. He was told this on his huracan but pushed it to almost 1200whp. The motor needed a rebuild after one season.
And what's the lesson here kids actually get your problems diag'd prior to just doing what "butchers" in the industry do which is simply toss parts at a car until they figure out what the problem is.... real mechanics diagnose n verify the issue 🤔... Jus sayin
Hello Alex, So, although I am not an expert into such engines V10’s of these R8, since I am not a mechanic in any shape or forms or even trained in such department, as I would like to admit, BUT I used to work for Audi Dealership in the past, for a short period of time, and therefore in the selling department too. I am familiar with the Audi Brand and therefore the R8 in itself. Never had the chance to sell one of these “babies” since these cars are NOT such an easy “candies” that people kinda’ like to throw money around in a such easier way, you get my point... Now, ALL I can tell is that these cars are built with more “detail” general speaking, and unusually do not have such “outrageous” premature “issues” UNLESS someone bit the crap out of them during the ownership and pushed the “pedal to the metal”, as usual too, pretty much, again, you get my point..!!.. Majority of the dealerships DO NOT even do test drive at this level of cars in such a rough ways, and therefore these are taking out of the dealership after the deal is already done for the most part. Liabilities, and/or preventing sycophantic people to destroy these cars while on test drive.. It appears to me that the guy “John” or the “presumable alleged scammer” as you kinda’ portray the previous seller in such a way I would like to say, then you were left with “a junk car” experiencing all these kinds of problems.. Car, that was obviously abused pretty dramatically and drastically, therefore now you were left with a big bills to swallow as you described it.. I am not going to point out some of the, “aka mistakes”, that you already admitted here, since there is NO point to dig into memories that hurts as I can imagine how you feel at this point in time, BUT you should have known that once the guy stated that there is NO issues with the car, THEN you SHOULD have always assumed, that, THERE are issues with the car, since MAJORITY of the people would NOT tell you the true story, general speaking, let alone trying to sell you an “item” of a $160+K bucks. Now, when it comes to any company that will “test” this car and charge you $300, then you should have lawyer up and bring a lawsuit for such a rip off and sloppy performance of their test job trying to prevent you from being scammed, since that was the purpose of your pre-test, correct! I am NOT advising you what to do legally, since that is what I would have done myself in this situation if that would have happened to me, and therefore please do NOT take this as a legal advice in any shape or forms, since that is not my intention at all here, and/or overall I am NOT an attorney and either this is any legal advice at all once again.. Basically, you were blinded by “the reality” that you were try to avoid just to get the car as fast as possible, and you did NOT want to hear ANY bad news about it either, regardless the “consequences”, just saying!!, you get my point too!! Big mistake, my friend!! I can tell you that I was tired hearing ALL kinds of stories from people that were lying to their teeth, when it comes to their trades, which were blatant BS straight up front lies and without ANY shame or concern… On the other hand, don’t get me wrong, Audi Brand have some issues too, since these cars are far from being perfect, and based on my personal experience while working for one Audi Dealership, then all I can tell is that there were some complaints made by some former customers too. So, yes all the brands out there might experience some issues one way or another at some point in time, but for the most part you would by a better quality cars vs other brands, I would say. Moreover, the fact that you got $125k back for you R8 it is still amazing in my opinion since the value of that car would have been way lower and NOT even near of what you sold it/trade it for, I would like to say, regardless how much money you spent to bring it back to life. You probably know that NO dealerships out there would give you back $40k-50+k back for your investments in this trade since many of them would rate you at pennies for dollars when it comes to ANY additional upgrades, NOT to mention a lot of miles (65k) already on the odometer for such an exotic car. Generally, these vehicles comes back way faster into trading spectrum and with few miles, kinda under 10k miles in many occasions, I would like to say, since people that buys such cars barely drive them, not to mention that these exotic cars are NOT a mainly daily driving transportation/s for many of these type of buyers.. The car was trashed and truly abused, “drag-rase” I would assume, since the guy John kinda’ portrayed such “behavior” with your F150, correct?.. Therefore what makes you think that he did NOT do the same thing with the R8 prior for you to get it.. The cables and the camera in itself as well as the overall wiring were exposed to a high temperatures values from the engine compartment and vicinity, due to raising I would like to think of, and therefore that could have been one of the main issue for such failures/issues. You probably got more out of the guy’s lies when you confronted but then that was to late unfortunately since he already “scammed you”…, as it appears that the guy knew more and played dumb later on. I have to say it, but, $80+k lesson was just a weakness that you have and ignore in the end while all the red flags were there to begging with. I am pretty much sure that this is NOT your first rodeo when you bought a car and should have listen to your instincts before you were sweep out of you feet, let alone that the guy is a blatant dishonest person in my opinion.. My advice is, but it new, with full warranty and DO NOT get an extended warranty since it is NOT worth it in my opinions on again. The money that you spent on that car, would have gotten you a brand new one “stock” and some super decent upgrades too, perhaps twin turbo, since dealer sometimes are eager to sell unsold “furniture” at great discounts too… As I said, these items don’t sell as they trying to make you believe. Negotiate, be patient, DON’T rush, do research for a long time, since you don’t buy every day such cars, right?? I did NOT like the business and the shenanigans that are pushed and driven by greed and dishonesty while I worked in the industry, so that is why I could NOT stomach the BS, therefore I end up my carrier in this world of uncertainty and struggle to make sales for such expensive vehicles. I owned dozens of brand NEW cars over the years and I am old enough to know how to do all the regular maintenance and/or upgrades in many different occasions in many of my previous and present cars, therefore I almost RARELY go to ANY dealership for anything. Please keep in mind that all my comments here are for entertainment only, and are just my opinions. Cheers!
