I Have No Idea What UAE Team Emirates were Doing Today | Vuelta a Espana 2023 Stage 14 

I really hope Primoz and Jonas let him have the win if possible. He deserves it.

​@@suckieduckiedya think they could do that to him, break up the team to go every many for himself? Unless Kuss blows up, he's got this nah?

​@@suckieduckieThey absolutely will

@@suckieduckie Primoz already has three Vueltas and a Giro and Jonas has two Tours. They both seem like nice people and good teammates so I would imagine as long as working for Kuss doesn't risk the team losing the red jersey they will work for him as hard as they can

@@quarkonium3795 And they have all those titles mainly due to the hard and perfect work of Kuss! And even the team as a whole has a lot to benefit from this. They will go down in history as a super squad. Kuss was the domestique in every GC victory so far, that was a lot to be talked about. But if this year they make the GC trifecta with a different leader, now that’s hard to beat!

They let him go be a he’s no threat to GC😅

​@@thuthukanindlovu1959 Still incredible performance. Whats your point?

@@thuthukanindlovu1959There were like 20 guys in the breakaway who wanted to win. Just watch the start how may teams wanted to be in the breakaway. UAE tried to catch them but couldn’t. Just because you dislike Remco, you don’t have to discredit him of this incredible performance.

​@@thuthukanindlovu1959 bro give some respect!

@@thuthukanindlovu1959I agree. Question is: If he was a threat, would he be able (would TJV let him) to pull up this victory? No way right? Yes it was a good show, but only because he was allowed.

Pogi didnt come 2nd during the "i'm dead" stage

Also Evenepoel looked good when he finished yesterday, clearly he was recuperating already during the race.

@@alvinrisdianto I think they meant second overall rather than second on the stage

It was really strange to see someone with a saddle soar getting fourth and another who is sick only loose 7 minutes and Remco who has no issues reported loosing 27 minutes while talking with his team mate riding side by side with him up hill. It is clear that Remco has serious mental issues. I have said it before. He seems to put way too much pressure on himself.

Amazingly Jonas never cracks..I wonder why…DOPING!!!

couldn't agree more with a statement

Embarrassingly short. Disrespectful.

True. But last tdf uae didnt find bad legs day for vingegaard

Problem for riders like Evenepoel is they lose 10-20 minutes on a bad day, Vingegaard loses 30s to 1m on his worst days.

There’s bad days and there’s completely blowing up, this is Remco’s weakness as we stand and what I’m sure ye will work on. If you look at the other top guys they have bad days but they’re still there or there abouts. Remco’s race got lost on one day. He needs to chill and become more consistent

But normally if you have bad legs it’s a sign of weakness. It’s very unusual to be one of the weakest in a race on one day and then being the far best rider the next day.

Or on another team, since he's now a GC contender. Don't see him caring any bottles in the near future..

He will leave jumbo, but at a grand tour winner 🎉

Jonas is a little pouting hissy fit

I once knew superman Indurain to ride for Pedro Delgado, after which he won the tour several times. Everything is possible.

All signs say he’ll happily stay with TJV. Why would he want to leave the best team in the world, likely for some years to come, as long as he’s happy there?

Was hoping this one would start with " Remco let him go, Remco forget about him, Remco no longer GC"

Wait. Where did he go..? Did he pop home for lunch

Nope, he has decided to go on for another year. Going to retire at the end of the 24 season. The Condor of Varseveld will soar for one more year.

@@brippieWow, I missed that. Nice!

It can fall into their lap if they follow Ayuso or Mas. Which is what you are also saying I guess.

@animetributes6996 Yes! And even then - if Kuss has a bad day - can u just abandon the red jersey?! One of them have to stay with him.

The race would be complete if he was in. All the other big GC guys are in except for O'Connor, Rodriguez, and maybe Gall. Also the Yates twins.

And Yates

That’s what happens when you build a team around one single person

I don’t see O’Connor as top ten GC rider

@@Judewilkinsonjfk Yeah I forgot about the Yates bros

Well he was better today 👍

They have 2 out of 5, now 1 of 5. #theonejersey

@@hochwurden5388 You're missing van Baarle in the Dutch National Champs jersey, and Valter in the Hungarian. If Kuss wins and Jonas gets the KOM jersey then only Roglic, Tratnik and Gesink are wearing yellow in Madrid.

@@hendrixinfinity3992And Kelderman too (-;

@@hendrixinfinity3992 fair point. But ill have to deduct Rogla (not only cuz will he prob crash), since its always unzipped! Hes wearing it more like a Cape XDXD

It would all make sense if Ayuso, Soler, Almeida and Remco were riding for Moviestar

They probably know their chance is slim. But they are there, they have to try something. They probably didn't think Remco was going to get in the breakaway (who would?). Once the missed that split, there isn't much they can do except to try something random. To be honest their attempt today was as good as any other way they could have attempted.

I suspect they were testing if they could break Kuss

They might have been able to if their tactics were not so stupid. Jumbo had a hard day yesterday and Ayuso and Soler are pretty good but they just can't seem to figure out how to race tactically

​@@xx765They only need to break one of them and Ayuso is on the podium. Definitely worth trying.

Hes going to stage wins and KOM Jersey. And hes probably win 1 more stage and the KOM Jersey in my eyes. Thats an way high level GC guys try to approach an Grand Tour if their GC fails.

Soon to be 'tamed' by a hive of terror bees🐝🐝🐝

@@savagepro9060he already lost but still big credit for his performance today

I didn’t see, did he talk about what the hell happened yesterday?

@@mjtplihe just said he didn’t have the legs

Well: Jumbo brought the reigning Giro AND Tour winners. As well as a "domestique" who regularly drops all but at most a handful of the world's very top GC contenders..... The others aren't weak. JV is the current Team Sky.

BOTH 🐝🐝🐝💪 vs

Kelderman, Valter, Gesink... no slouches either. Kelderman, JVs 4th best climber here, would be #2 on quickstep 😂

@@bradw7457

Jumbo brought their 4 strongest climbers to this race, Valter is likely their 6-7th strongest climbers, Gesink is incredibly overperforming too. So I'd say, they send a really strong team. VB is maybe the main rider not really performing at normal level imo, but still decent. UAE also send a stacked team, but to even up with TJV, they should have send Pogacar too and Vine crashing out hurt them massively.

Pogacar had a bad day on stage 5 and a great day on stage 6, and unlike Remco yesterday, he couldn't just take it easy in the end.

If you understand psihology you know Remco is not a good person…that is why so many of us hates him…no one hates Kuss, Roglic,…Because they are great guys…And at the end of the day, Remco is not top tier cyclist…he can only dream about level of Pogi, Jonas and Roglic…

@@ks-li4ic Your English says it all about your so called knowledge about psychology.

So many fucking people are not understanding that he has a HUGE mouth

Yep.

ha ha ha, so he is nowhere at GC...bad excuse. You think that fucking TJV big boys will sleep with him?....dream on...

Remco needs a better team

We're all patiently awaiting the Remco tainted BB video from D Rider.

himself and his big mouth

I think they will try, but 3 men on the podium is their priority

@@olivernielsen1131 it's beyond priority, it is a MUST

They wont. JUMBO has no interest in controlling all of the race for that jersey.

@@savagepro9060 yes and therefore they won't send Vingegaard up ahead to pick up kom points, as that would be risking his GC

@@olivernielsen1131 They want to WIN ALL three grand tours in ONE calendar year, and that might take a heavy dose of TEAM effort

Yea that's a horrible take. Evenepoel will try for the Tour de France in 2024. The 27 minutes in the Vuelta means he arrives at the Grand Depart in France as a broken man.

you literally said in another comment he was recuperating during the 27min stage@@animetributes6996

except noone was chasing him....

@@gabrielshansenExpect 20 riders in the breakaway. Just watch the start of the stage and how many guys wanted to be in the group, this stage was one that many wanted to win.

@@gabrielshansenapart from the other 20 riders in the GC, most of the UAE team, and a few JV riders until they realised they weren’t strong enough to catch him. Let’s not forget that Remco effectively rode solo for 100k, including on the flat sections . There is no way any of the JV riders could do that.

I have to disagree. At this point Ayuso and perhaps Uijtdebroeks look like the real threats. I fear Remco will always have that off-day -- I've just not seen that he can recover at the level Vinge, Pog and Rog can when they peak. Doesn't mean he can't, I've just not seen.

​@@Jan-se1ndHe just showed 1 year ago that he can...

He would need another team. Not only for the teammates but for preparation. Jumbo managed to create a monster from a guy who was nothing 3 years ago, this is pure science. I don't think Lefevere has this rigourous approach.

I think if Pogacar's preparation is not adjusted before the Tdf 2024, he wont keep up with Jonas for three weeks. Ever since Jonas took over from Primoz in the latter half of the 2021 Tdf, he has not been in serious trouble (i know that Pogi beat him on the line/the final k a couple of times, but never got more than a few seconds advantage)

@@fautqucabele2070 Remco went eye to eye with Roglic this season at the Tour of Catalunia and last season at the Vuelta. Remco also mentiones in his Interview with the Lanterne Rouge Podcast that Quick-Step already made improvements in that area this season and he thinks they can catch up in the future.

probably realised he was out of GC contention and conserved as much as possible to try to create action in other stages, seems that action came early haha

He's 23. Plenty of time to grow into it

@@simonkurz4466 Remco fans recurring excuse -->> He's 23 years old, he has time

Meanwhile Pogacar exists, compare the two riders when Pogi was 23. Remco is a second grade GC rider, it is time for Belgium to accept this fact.@@savagepro9060

@@savagepro9060It’s not an excuse, he simply said that he has enough time to be a better GC rider. The other guy pretends like he can’t change direction of his career, when in fact he’s only 23. I think people like you genuinely lack brain cells to read and understand at the same time.

@savagepro9060 I'm not trying to excuse him. He can't beat Jonas or Pogi in GTs at the moment, but to say he is not a GC rider is ridiculous. Also being a fan of someone doesn't have to be a dick measuring contest, please grow up.

Watch his interview after the race.

@@Knofris Yeah but he said that he didn't sleep well last night, not the night before.

@@Norhod My bad i actually read the comment wrong and then yours, too. Sorry from my side here😂

As usual: 💊🩸💉

It was a fantastic show. But it was mostly that. The net gain of this Vuelta will be negative for him and SQ. Doesn't mean he's not a great rider, he's just not a great GT rider. At least not yet.

"..almost unexplainable physically ( many will question this )..." The sheer magnitude of the overnight reversal, almost had a bit Floyd Landis ring to it.... OTOH: Today was usual Remco. Or, at least, "usual Remco after he had a rest day while everyone else had their hardest day in the saddle." Yesterday was when Remco was completely off pace. Not today. Not sure what ailed him yesterday. ( I'm guessing; and only that purely guessing; lack of sleep from being nervous about the massiveness of the upcoming stage amidst all that competition. One can lay in bed spinning forever about tactics when faced with the JV trifecta he has to take on almost singlehanded.....) Whatever it was, today he was back, rested. Remco as we are used to seeing him.

Holy Jumbo Visma trinity 👍😅

@@Jan-se1ndhe has already won a GT. Neither Roglic, Vingegaard or Kuss could ever do what Remco did today: 100k in the attack , virtually solo, in a mountain stage with 3 huge climbs. All those JV riders can is sit in the wheel until 5k from the finish on the last climb and then gain some time. As a team they are stronger, but as individuals they cannot match Remco. Only Pogacar can, as he shown in the TdF and in one day classics.

@@hvhvgitaarDoes that mean he's still in contention for the overall? Don't get me wrong, Remco is a marvelous rider, I just doubt he's a marvelous GC rider in Grand Tours.

I think it is hard for him to stay feeling engaged. TJV looks like they are making taking time back really hard and demoralizing

@@KelvinSuddith well said!

@@KelvinSuddithtime for the princess to ‘toughen up’ then… It’s not going to get any easier during his career, especially if he wants to race the TdF.

Or don't make it too obvious you have special rice cakes and berry juice which the others don't. 😴

@@briangoossens1519 Yeah, these insinuations of doping are getting really old and stale fast. There's no proof that the top riders of the team has any doping going on and you're just a petulent little troll that can't handle your favorite rider has been crushed by someone better. Are you a Pogi-boi or a Remco-kid? Go away troll, I'm blocking you, so don't bother answering, I won't see it anyway.

@@briangoossens1519 Ding ding. We have a winner.

They would have stopped him from going in the break, not sure they could have railed him back in without using one of their leaders once he had 2 minutes. TJV only had Valter left at the end and all he could do was keep the gap stable.

It's not gifting a win, or a gentleman's agreement, it's just basic prioritising of resources. It's madness to tire your domestiques out by chasing a guy 29 minutes down on GC when you have 7 stages to go and multiple competitors 3-4 mins off the red jersey to contain. Fantastic ride by Evenepoel

He didn't do that well. Jumbo just didn't chase him because he's not a contender for this race any more.

Wrt Remco: Yesterday was what was weird. Today was a very good day. But not fully "weird," by Remco standards. When he's on, he can ride away from people.

It's like in the tdf when pog was dropped by vingegaard and everyone said pog doesn't have it any more, but is set a faster time on the mountain then two years ago. E Scenario is everything.

"Remco comes back from the absolute dead"

He had a rest day yesterday

Can’t see it now he smells any easy kill with the KOM jersey.

hi

high

The World Championship is 1 race. Last one was in Scotland and Van der Poel won...

​@@adrianbuck8772I think this was a joke

Only thing is that the actual World champion is not there 😂😂

@@adrianbuck8772 World Champion of WHAT??

Glad you enjoyed the stage! I’m not sure what we’re counting on Remco for tbh 🤔 GC? For packing up shop when he sees his chances slipping away in Stage 13? (Looks like bad sportsmanship or at least bad planning by his manager seeking bonus $$$ by racing in La Vuelta… For a few ‘sound bites’ for his media lap dogs? He was 27+ minutes down and wouldn’t have been in the break if he was any threat to the pointy end of the race. Remco was like any other guy in the Peloton who had shipped time and was allowed into the breakaway in which nobody, apart from his team mate and Bardet were willing to work with him.

Especially the way he won.

winning stages is so easy, every stage has at least 1 winner

No jumbo didnt care for him today yesterday they drove in on him in a bad day they probably could have driven the same way today but why would they their goal is a historic 123 not chasing a guy half an hour back

Of course he intentionally lost enough time to be able to go for breakaway stage wins. If he would have been less than 10min ahead Jumbo isnt letting him go anywhere.

He probably had a terrible day, knew GC was over - and then just let the time run.

He didn’t lose the first 5 minutes on purpose.. after that ofcourse… he doesn’t need a top 10 spot, he’s won the race

@@itzStrFtwi doubt that after the first six minute loss, Remco devised a master plan to lose half an hour and then go for stage wins. Like, how machiavellian can a rider be in the middle of race? Or maybe, actually haha when I wrote how machiavellian can a rider be I realized that actually yes he can be that Machiavellan and more lol.

You mean Floyd landis...

The point of the display? As in to win the stage? Something 85% of the peloton will never do?

It was a show of ego, wasn't it? He had to show to the world and himself that he's still relevant and of worth. Yesterday was probably a massive blow to his self-perception. That had to be repaired in some way and this was the only and most grand possibility.

Watch the interviews after the race. Romain said what a good performance by Remco it was and that Remco basically did 80 percent of the work. Remco on the other hand said that he was willing to work uphill when Bardet helps I’m in the flat parts. Also, this stage was maybe just for Remco to prove himself he’s still a great rider. I don’t get how you consider this weird behaviour.

⁠​⁠​⁠@@Jan-se1ndAnd he did it, so what is your point? Just look at him after the stage, he was crying even 15 minutes after the stage ended. Put some respect on his name and performances even if you dislike him.

@@Knofris The point is right there. There's no nefarious or denigrating intention. It's a description of events as I saw them. That's it

By seeing that you won’t have any chance and then just rolling to the finish to be in better shape for the upcoming stages.

@@Knofris and then what, come back from a 27-minute deficit. . .?

​@@savagepro9060Hes going for KOM Jersey and Stage wins. KOM jersey now looks really really good. Won todays stage. Could go for some more for in the comming days.

@@savagepro9060 To win a stage, like he did. Pretty obvious what his plan was.

@@savagepro9060 To win stages. If the GC teams aren't going to control the breakaways (which often happens, especially in a situation like this), the main way to win those is to go into breakaways yourself. Obviously other GC teams aren't going to allow it when you are still too close.