Sometimes a comedy can make you sigh more than any "drama" can. In this episode, Niles is showing up at a bar to inform Daphne that her boyfriend Rodney was dumping her for Niles's girlfriend Adelle.
When Niles looks off into the distance after saying "I love you, too, Daphne," that's just a masters class in acting. The blink, the gulp. It's just perfect acting.
@@rohunsaigal2576 It also wasn't really a will they won't you, cause up until a few episodes of them actually getting together Daphne never really showcased any signs that she was into Niles. For the most part, it was a one-way unreturned infatuation.
and they do they have them break up and get back together a few times like friends that was the one thing that that's one of the reasons why I don't really watch the show cuz they just kept doing the whole loss or Rachel Ross and Rachel thing and it's just so stupid
"I love you too, Daphne." What a moment. He means it and she doesn't realize it. Can you imagine, in real life - not a sitcom - how much that would hurt?
And hilarious. All those years of Niles barely holding it together while Daphne was oblivious. And all the times Niles and Daphne would get caught in innocent but compromising positions, always funny. Love this couple second only to Holly and Michael from The Office.
I used to be a Niles. Then one day I met my Daphne. And now she's my wife and we have a plate on a wall in our home that reads: "And they lived happily ever after."
My heart broke when Daphne said "I love you." in a friend way and you hear Niles' voice almost crack saying "I love you too, Daphne." why cant real life be like this? x
I completely agree everything just clicked in this series the ones on today are just crap. This was my favorite episode you just cringed though while they were building up getting them together they took too long lol
David Hyde Pierce is brilliant... Of course Jane Leeves is too, but he had me in tears. He plays Niles' character so well, and you could just feel what he was going through here. You have to love these two!
Yes, I agree. Every time this show has brought me to tears it was because of David's performance. He's a simply beautiful actor and can convey imense emotion with just a look or a line.
Niles and Daphne was an absolute masterclass in how to write your characters without falling into the same old tropes. So glad they eventually got together but also thoroughly enjoyed the years of Niles dancing around Daphne while she was completely oblivious to his affections.
These two just had the most beautiful friendship. I adored how it played out; there's just this tenderness and respect that existed between them. Especially considering how abusive Maris was just seeing how warm and gentle Daphne is with him just adds so much pathos. also DHP's subtle reaction to the wine is priceless.
Which made their relationship when they got together even more special. They had known each other for several years by this point and they had an amazing friendship.
Most other programmes would make this cheesy and contrived. Not Frasier. The build up over time, the longing, the silliness and, ultimately, the pure and genuine love made it so believable.
I remember t.v. guide did a poll asking who would fans want to see get together: ross & rachel, jerry & elaine, niles & daphne, and others. and niles and daphne won.
Youre not alone, im a 52 yr old guys guy but when these two finally got together it was the first time I cried for the first time in my life at a tv show-- this had to be one of the most believable and touching screen romances of all time --- they played it so perfectly, and Ive always had a weakness for british women, and Daphne was a genuine living Doll to me.
When most sitcoms decide to have moments of consequence, they stick out like sore thumbs because they looked dropped in and to the audience it feels manipulative and contrived. Frasier always kept the comedy grounded in reality and each season all the characters grew naturally within that atmosphere. That is why heartfelt moments like this (or when the three Crane men stood on the apartment balcony to let Seattle know they were available only to have those laughs give way to the realization that they are mate-less again) doesn't feel artificial or inserted. It appears organically. And that's what makes great writing and a great show.
The attention to detail in the acting is wonderful. A couple of things I noticed (that I might have imagined) were firstly the way Niles says 'I was sitting here when I met....Adelle'. He almost forgets her name because he is so infatuated with Daphne. Then Daphne says 'Go one, just for fun. We could both use a smile' and her face sets into an almost stern gaze, as if challenging Niles to say his true feelings. It's immaculately acted.
That was great. It’s a great tie in to later on when she realizes she does love him. You could almost see her reaching out to him here, but timing was always wrong until they went for it
*A woman was talking to her 'BFF' and telling her "I don't know what to do! One guy is an a-hole and fucks around on me and treats me like his 'personal whore' ...and the other guy always gets me flowers for every holiday and sometimes no reason at all...buys me little gifts...tells me dirty jokes until I finally laugh...always looking at me with 'cow-eyes' like I'm special or something...I just don't know what to do!"* *'BFF says 'What the hell? Dump that ass-hole and stay with 'flower guy'" and girlfriend says "I can't do that! HE'S 'STRAIGHT!'* ( *Yeah...I'm the 'flower guy'...a 'Niles'...American women DO NOT want a 'nice guy'* )
I was happy for Niles when I saw this. There was a chance for him to say "I love you" to Daphne without need to be nervous or that she could imagine that he ment it in a romantic way.. . *sigh*
At least we had four years to watch their love grow and develop to where they became a family. It wasn't like Friends, where Ross and Rachel didn't become a couple till the very end.
I remember when this episode was new and it got to this scene. I was almost screaming in my head "Just say it. Just tell her." It was such a punch in the gut for it to end that way.
It's a mutha fuckin masterpiece. Form the script to the acting to the camera moves to the background actors not stealing focus and the editing is a perfect rhythm, too. ugh. Amazing.
There were times in Frazier when things just seemed to come together in such a magical way. This scene is definitely one of those times. Just amazing acting and writing. This is a truly touching scene.
It's unreal how the writers and actors managed to cram humour, sweetness, bitterness and hope into a simple chat at the bar. Some of the best television I've had the pleasure of watching, if not the best.
@@williamj.dovejr.8613 I think all the copies being sold now are second hand. I just looked on Amazon and when you type in “Frasier script book” in the first option that comes up is a used copy for $10.
I think that Daphnie always felt attracted to Niles, but never imagined that anything would happen. Remember the episode when she decided to stay with Niles and it was a heatwave?
One of the best scenes ever in the episode of Fraser sense the closing scene of mash. Beautiful. Simplistic, beautiful. Thank you. Such a good teaching moment.
Frazier was successful because for the first time in a TV sitcom, the writing was superb (no wishy-washy crap, for a change) and each one of the actors was excellent in their own right. This scene is a perfect example of that. What a joy to watch...
I remember in this scene when he says 'There was someone else who was too much on my mind' and Daphne say 'I had a feeling'. I thought she realised he was talking about her but of course she thought he meant Maris.
This scene shows why Frasier is such a great show and is so rewatchable. Although it's incredibly funny I watch the show mainly because I enjoy the characters so much and enjoy spending time with them .They managed to create real people not cardboard cut out characters with zero depth.Seinfeld for example is a great show but it's characters are incredibly shallow and unrealistic and once you've seen the jokes so many time there's nothing more to be got from it, Frasier is great because the characters are like real people and you want them to do well in life.
Like a lot of us out here, I know exactly how Niles feels when he tells Daphne he loves her too, and she doesn't know he is sharing his True feelings! It is truly bittersweet!
He does a perfect job conveying that gut wrenching feeling of unrequited love. Thank goodness I quit on "romance" years ago and found inner peace for it.
it was corny, sappy, campy, but through the whole show, his love was sincere, and their finally getting together, was so satisfying. (especially for Niles! *wink wink nudge nudge*) Good story telling. This back ground story set the hook early and kept us on the line so well. I miss this show. RIP John Mahoney.
The show creators/writers really played the character arcs between these two perfectly... they didn't ruin the show's chemistry by getting them together too soon, nor did they wait too long to bring them together, as we had enough of a payoff for the last few seasons... very few missteps throughout this show's run.
Ahhh...I love this so much. Such a sweet, silly and sometimes frustratingly painful love story. So real in many ways. Being great friends first, maybe what what makes it work. Wish we could all have that. Simply amazing acting.
The weirdest thing is that with most tv shows with the “will they wont they” storylines that when they finally get together it feels stale and weird. But when daphne and niles finally got together it was a sigh of relief. Mainly because it showed the realistic way a crush can turn into a loving connection and finally turn into a relationship. It showed maturity.
This show had it all, and this will-they-or-won't-they ongoing love story between Niles and Daphne is a great example. Their feelings for each other was separated by a paper thin wall of propriety, creating palpable tension, masterfully fleshed-out by both actors. How many of us were yelling "Come on Niles!!" at the screen whenever he would come this close to confessing his bottled-up feelings for her?
I don't particularly like HIMYM, but when Lily spews some shit about Ted having "more emotional endurance than anyone"? Stand down, Mosby, Niles has you completely beat.
