You know there are parts of being a good partner (man or woman) realizing the other person is reacting emotionally and perhaps a bit irrationally in the moment (because of a certain momentary stressor perhaps) and having a cooler head and at least talking things through, rather than just saying “ok, let’s do it! No questions asked.” I know two couples where the ladies had at some point just said “forget the wedding, let’s just elope” because they got overwhelmed by the planning that day, their mom may have been a bit overbearing at the dress store, or a bridesmaid or two were PMSing the day of the fitting and generally being snots. In one case, the guy said “Sure, if you want,” and they went down to the County office and got married the next day without family/friends (except a couple friends who weren’t the type to talk then out of it). Obviously the parents and family were very hurt, and the wife regretted it, and wished her hubby had pushed back and gave her time to cool off and rethink things. The marriage didn’t last (not saying it’s the only or primary reason, but the guy’s general squishy personality seemed not to have strong enough roots for when the storms of life hit). The other couple? I only know about it because the wife has said several times how grateful she was that her fiancé gently but firmly pu shed back against the idea and told her she’d regretted and that it wasn’t the right thing to do. She 100% agrees and said she was just overwhelmed at that moment, and worked through it, made a few changes to refocus, and went in to have a great wedding experience, with her grandmother in her 90s who passed a few months later. If people don’t want a big wedding (which I admit have gotten gross in their commercialization and excess), then more power to then going to the County or Vegas with just some very close friends/family. But changing your mind to just drop everything and elope at the drop of a hat when that wasn’t the plan? I’m just saying the a voice of caution and rethinking things after a couple of nights of good sleep is probably wise.
@@HoyaSaxaSD You bring up very good points but none of that is what made Daphne suddenly want to marry Niles. She explained exactly what did (one of the strengths of their relationship after they got together is that they had strong and clear communication). The families later felt a bit disappointed but then they tried to make amends with the extra ceremonies. But Daphne didn't express much regret at the way she married Niles. In this case he saw her resolve and gave her what she wanted. Every couple is different.
I love this scene for Martin. everyone else was insulted for selfish reasons and he steps forward and kindly tells them to go and enjoy their honeymoon. no anger, no feeling betrayed, just a gentle tone and the implication that he's happy for them and forgives them for hiding it for their benefit.
He really WAS a well written character. He'd sometimes chastise his boys for being "uppity" but not actually acting in a classy way. (snobbery and such) I always thought that he was the truly classy one at the end of the day despite being a more 'simple' individual.
Frasier and Niles actually got their ethics and emotional traits from their dad. Martin thought his ways were the best and looked down on people who thought otherwise. Frasier and Niles, who got their mom's finer tastes, got a more amplified version of that trait.
There was an impromptu Frasier cast reunion about a month ago. It had everyone sans Mahoney (RIP). Even the actors that played Bulldog, Kenny, Bebe, Noel, and Lilith stop in for a little bit. Here's the link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GBM_mpTjbaM.html
Here's my David Hyde-Pierce story: 22 years ago I was working at the reception desk at the Geffen Playhouse in Los Angeles. He was rehearsing a show there. I was VERY pregnant with my first child and not moving around very easily, lol! On his way out the door at the end of the day he walked past me and we said good night. He then doubled back around, put his hand on my shoulder, leaned in and said "You take very good care of yourself". 😊
Thank you for sharing that story. I'm so glad you had that moment with DHP. Every story I've ever heard about him underscores his kindness or his humility, all of which makes me respect him even more.
"How come you aren't on your honeymoon?" Trust Martin to have the level head during all the bickering at the third wedding. "Oh, and there's one more," and"Okay, you go." just had me giggling out loud!
What I like best about their relationship is how it blossomed from a silly infatuation to an actual loving relationship. Throughout the whole show they had troubled relationships but in the end they were genuinely happy together.
Gotta love them indeed but the first seasons where Niles tries to hide his feelings have to be the best :) but the fact that this show stayed amazing after all those seasons is the proof that its one of the best sitcoms ever made
My Mom and Dad got married in Reno, Nevada back in 1964. They had me 4 years later. This episode, in a way, makes me think of my Mom and Dad, since Niles and Daphne also married in Reno.
I love it how he reaches for her ring.... It comes natural to him that she already took it off! They really know each other, probably even more than they realise.
Daphne (with Niles): "It just felt wrong to start off a marriage with a lie." Mrs. Moon: "Was the first one at least in front of a minister?" Daphne "Of course." Daphne and Niles swiftly depart for their honeymoon.
The first part always has me in tears everytime, the emotion Jane puts into her performance is so well done and you can see how in touch she is with her character and that David bounces off that and you feel like you wanna marry Niles to. Wonderful episode/s.
I'm so glad Daphne and Niles finally tied the knot. I know that anticipation keeps the show going but it becomes absolutely maddening after a while! Two people who are meant for each other should be together. Daphne is refreshing with her sparkling wit and big heart, which made her perfect for Niles. And Niles is one of the greatest idiosyncratic characters in the history of sitcoms. Not to mention he is a dreamboat!
Adria. Sparkly wit and big hart.?? You can't mean Daphne.?? She was cheap load mouth over opinionated head case. level 7 crazy without the looks. Women like you just prove how unrealistic the modern women is. And that attitude helps verifie why stats show that 70% of this gen of modern feminist women will be single and childless at 45yrs. men see Daphne as a hit it quiet it girl Only a Simp beta male like niles would be dumb enough to marry her.
@@mendingwall3823 Well when you meet a hot women that's good in bed all that goes out the window because you start thinking with the wrong head. But once that 3mth honeymoon is over her true colors begin to show. With women when the going gets tough-They leave with everything they can.!
@@MontagZoso Its what happens once a women thinks your hooked. Once the ring is on it only gets worse. You looked past her appearance clever lad.! that will save you from many a hart ache.
@@unclewazza777 I'm a female and Daphne really wasn't that bad. She was a typical wife. She and Niles had a very realistic marriage. Marriage isn't always sunshine and roses, there's conflict and differences but it will always work out if the couple knows how to communicate.
David Angell died in the first plane to hit the WTC on 9:11/2001- he was one of the creators of this show! RIP David and all the people murdered by the terrorists.!
They named their son David Crane as a tribute to David Angell. I like to think they had a baby girl and named her Lynn. They could call them their little Angells.
I think my very favorite mini-part is right before Daphne is supposed to marry Donny but she goes to the RV instead and asks Niles if he thinks he'd like to go on a date! Needless to say, Niles is really VERY, VERY happy to hear this and they take off.....down the driveway! (Then they decide they must go back to Seattle and face the music.)
The best bit from this episode was the exchange between Alice and Daphne's mom "In my day, we were more civilized when we spoke to our elders" "Is that back when you rode dinosaurs?"
Actually the actor who played the womanizing Bulldog in the show is openly gay in real life. Pulling it off depends on the actor. I thought the chemistry between David Hyde Pierce and Jane Leeves made the love scenes seem real.
Even though Jane Leeves is happily married and has children, while David Hyde Pierce in real life is gay, you can tell that there is some form of general love between the two actors. So much so that Pierce is the Godfather to one of Leeves’s children.
Lizzie. What does a gay guy know about romancing a women. It makes if far less believable.but then again Daphne looks like a tom boy. Put her in a mans suit and you have a man. perfect beard for niles.
That's why there CAN'T be a reboot b/c the most interesting cast members are either way too old or are dead. "Frasier" should remain a wonderful memory that CAN'T be redone with insignificant actors. "Frasier" was lightning in a bottle.
@@patriciarockwell2227 What a shame I read months back there was going to be a new Frasier hopefully with nearly all the old cast I do hope that's true
John Mahoney was fantastic in Frasier I was really deverstated when he passed U here actors pass but this one really was sad RIP John I love watching u every night
With all of the money Niles had they could have had an amazing wedding but this was better...the strength of the vows is more important than the service I’d rather have an amazing honeymoon than a lavish wedding
Charity. Well statistically for your gen you have less than a 30% chance of that happening. Marriage like this show are gone. The west has the lowest births and marriage rates in history. And thanks to feminism and the lying slanderous METO movement and women getting 80% of all child custody cases and men being screw over in court. Men no longer trust women or marriage. The stats for your gen of women.?? 70% will be childless and single at 45yrs. But you will still be a strong independent feminist women and will have proven you don't need men.
@@Michelle-pn9xt Lol NO That would be a feminist woman. Unless your man is sterile or has made it clear he doesn't want kids that attitude will come back to bit you. The report man it clear that a lot of those single women were successful. But had no one to share it with or leave it to.
I was surprised because he played the character of Niles so well. I was actually shocked when he came out. He's that good of an actor because it never even occurred to me.
really.?? His behavior and mannerisms and going to a all boys school ,his overly close relationship with his mother never made you think even in the slightest that he might be a little closet.??
'I will cherish you all the days of my life'' I would have love to hear those words spoken to me by the man I loved. But unfortunately I never had such luck!!
I love Frazier when I started watching the reruns on hallmark six years ago. The best show was when they finally put Daphne and Nile together after so many show with Nile having a crush on Daphne.
Tim. If you believe that is true love you are sooo going to get screwed over by the modern women. I'm willing to bet you have a lot of female FRIENDS.?? And you would do anything for them.?? And they appreciate it so much they don't sleep with you..LMAO
@@unclewazza777 There is true love,but it is a rare thing.I don't have female friends because I have been screwed over especially by my 3 ex-wives.Part of it was my own crap.However,wife no.4 and I are celebrating our 7th anniversary today.So,you and I are both correct my friend.
6:37 Why did they have to bring Donny back? When we last saw him 2 years earlier, he was about to marry someone else and move on after dropping the lawsuit against Daphne and Frasier. At least he would have departed on better terms than Mel. But instead they brought Donny back in "The Ring Cycle" to reveal he actually still hates Daphne and just made his initial departure feel pointless.
@@joanclayton5212 Even though when we last saw him he'd dropped the lawsuit, went on to marry someone else and move on with his life? This just makes him stand out as some whiny crybaby who can't get over past issues.
