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I LOVED my Spark Amp...then this happened! 

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Here's a head to head comparison of the Positive Grid Spark and a tube amp. Until a few days ago, I thought the Spark was the GREATEST AMP EVER. Now circumstances have me rethinking my position. I forgot how amazing tube amps sound. Even cheap little ones! I've set up what I believe to be a fair comparison of the Spark amp and a very modestly priced tube amp and a couple of inexpensive pedals. Whether you love the Spark or hate it, I think you'll enjoy this head to head.
00:00 - Intro
01:06 - Head to Head Equipment
01:22 - Monoprice Stage Right specs
01:40 - Pedals used
02:20 - Clean Comparison
03:30 - "Break up" Comparison
04:12 - Hi-Gain Comparison
05:48 - The Reality of comparing stuff in a RU-vid video
06:07 - Final Thoughts
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@Bunford69
@Bunford69 Год назад
This test is flawed I’m afraid. Behind the grille, the Spark has 2 speakers on the front and a bass port in the middle. The microphone for your test is placed directly in front of the bass port, so the sound of the Spark is clearly more bassy, muffled,and has less high end treble. Therefore, I don’t think your apples to apples test really is an apples to apples test. On that note, the grille is only held on by velcro so you can actually pry it off and, with the Spark being bass heavy often being a criticism of it, you can actually muffle the bass by placing foam, or even a sock, into the bass port hole that makes the Spark jangle more and be less bassy in its sound signature.
@dhrandy
@dhrandy 9 месяцев назад
"Spark is clearly more bassy, muffled,and has less high end treble", literally the sound of a Spark 40. lol
@luis._.7908
@luis._.7908 9 месяцев назад
@@dhrandyyeah, but the sound in the video is kind of rigged because he could have place the mic in a better place to get the best sound possible out of the spark. It is indeed more bassy, but it isn’t a fair comparison.
@dhrandy
@dhrandy 9 месяцев назад
@@luis._.7908 I have a Spark 40 and love it!
@loudguitarist
@loudguitarist 7 месяцев назад
An 8inch speaker can't compete with two bass ports as well. Spark is woofy, and the new cabinet is super woofy. Pass. I like my Fractal FM9 but love the sound of a Mesa Boogie too.
@mkrj2576
@mkrj2576 7 месяцев назад
Kat 50 smokes’m both for the price
@JohnR242
@JohnR242 Год назад
Thanks for the video Mark. A very fair side by side example of tube and Spark Amp. I much prefer the sound of the Spark for most of the examples. That's my observation and if I had to choose which one to buy, I'd pick the Spark. Be well, and keep Rocking! Cheers!
@chillhowie5969
@chillhowie5969 Год назад
Nice Comparison Mark. I have been a spark owner since the beginning. I just ordered the GO as well. I have found that in most cases the Spark out performs most amps of similar cost. Keep up the good work!
@garym5676
@garym5676 Год назад
Hey Mark, thanks for the comparison! Did not think about a tube amp but am very impressed w/ sound for a practice amp. Another great video-Gary
@jim3041
@jim3041 Год назад
I like the sound of the Spark, but I'm just a beginner couch player.
@terrillroot9994
@terrillroot9994 Год назад
The other cool thing about the spark is the option to have any song transposed into an easily usable chord chart specifically designed for beginners!! 😊
@charlesmanthy9697
@charlesmanthy9697 Год назад
Interesting comparison! I have been using my Peavey XXL for years and never gave it a thought to try a tube amp.
@gerardomejiaenciso2717
@gerardomejiaenciso2717 9 месяцев назад
I think is fair to compare these amps to highlight the differences in certain situations. I’ve owned a tube amp and I was in love with it, but I moved to another country and had to sell it, then I bought the Spark and I must say I love the versatility it gives you for practicing and playing with sounds and pedals in their app. However I do miss the tube response to my playing dynamics and the warmth a tube gives to you. But for the price and practicing at home, I would say the Spark is marvelous.
@angelrile
@angelrile Год назад
I'm an acoustic player but electric has always interested me, this video showed me some more plusses, didn't know about the spark until now. Thanks for this comparison!
@Charles53412
@Charles53412 Год назад
I like the tube amp myself, however, both have their applicable places of use. After all, it's about what your preference is, and the music you play. Great review Mark !
@s133p1ngdrag0n
@s133p1ngdrag0n 9 месяцев назад
NIce video. I just ordered my Spark after owning the Spark mini since it was a preorder. I have a couple of other amps, but my son "borrowed" my only tube amp long ago and I don't expect to see it again in my house. I am not planning to buy another, but you never know.
@freesk8
@freesk8 Год назад
Thanks! I have a Spark, and am considering buying a real tube amp. In this video, it seems like the tone knob on the two amps are set differently, making it hard to compare the sounds.
@dennyclosser8456
@dennyclosser8456 7 месяцев назад
You got the microphone right in front of the base port on your spark buddy. You should look behind the speaker grill I put a 57 in front of my left or right speaker on my Spark and it records phenomenally.
@muddyexport5639
@muddyexport5639 Год назад
Thanks! Good comp! I use a Vox VT100. The only reason I'd consider the Spark is portability.
@morganmedrano920
@morganmedrano920 2 месяца назад
I own 2 different Vox amps. I ordered the Spark Go because it is the perfect size to ruin any outdoor event, company picknick, or family reunion... while still being able to our run the ensuing mob without losing you gear.
@muddyexport5639
@muddyexport5639 2 месяца назад
@@morganmedrano920 Point taken.
@michaellubrecht7224
@michaellubrecht7224 Год назад
Really interesting comparison! I'm a Spark fan myself, with a Mini and just now a GO in my possession. That said though, overall I think the tube amp sounded better. The Spark gave a fuller, more rounded tone, but the treble from the tube amp really sang out - making the Spark sounding muddier in almost every example. If I was a better guitarist, I'd try something like this myself, but all I have to work with besides the Sparks, is a Line6 Spider Mk 4 - so another modeling type amp. Thanks Mark! Love the continuing VanGoa contest, by the way - and would love to win one!
@thepnkflyd
@thepnkflyd Год назад
How do you like the Spark GO? Do you use the app with all the tones? 🎸🤘😎
@michaellubrecht7224
@michaellubrecht7224 Год назад
@@thepnkflyd I use mine frequently, mostly in my home office to practice during short work breaks. I use the app on both the GO and the Mini - I enjoy checking out tones that duplicate musicians like Neil Young or John Fogerty when I’m working on one of their songs.
@thomasvernier8506
@thomasvernier8506 Год назад
Thank you Mark. Interesting.
@8MinuteAxe
@8MinuteAxe Год назад
Hey Thomas. Thank you. That was the point. People are giving me all kinds of advice. I just did the comparison. I've played probably 800 gigs and I've made my living doing this for years. It's amazing how many know it alls are out there that have never left the basement. One thing that holds true for just about every first rate musician I've ever met: They are secure and never put down other musicians. Have a great week and take care. Mark
@terrillroot9994
@terrillroot9994 Год назад
I’m pretty interested in the spark, it can also be used with Bass and Acoustic too! Pretty all around everything! May not be as crystal clear as a tube unit but the plethora of extras blows everything else out of the water!
@hofftipus4132
@hofftipus4132 10 месяцев назад
They both sound great. I think the tube amp sounded a little better, for the most part. However, with that said, the flexibility of the spark amp still pushes the value proposition better. More flexibility. But man, that tube really sounds good.
@8MinuteAxe
@8MinuteAxe 10 месяцев назад
You articulated better in 3 sentences than I did in 6 minutes. Thanks so much for checking out the video. I appreciate your time and comments. Have a great weekend and take care. Mark
@qua7771
@qua7771 8 месяцев назад
I like custom built tube amps. Nothing beats them, but I think the Spark is a good tool for figuring out which direction you're heading. It's also a good learning tool/ compact practice amp. You don't have to wait for tubes to warm up just to try that riff. I don't see the Spark, and tube amps as a being direct comparison.
@JustinSchweitzer-Mongo-
@JustinSchweitzer-Mongo- 9 месяцев назад
I'm newer to your channel and thus far enjoy your content. I liked your head-to-head and the fact you called out how people consume our content matters to the audio comparisons. Well made video and you're a great player. Definitely going to keep following. I could hear the richness in tone from the tube even through my meh PC speakers. Then I used my headphones I use for practicing and you could hear it even more. I can't say I love one MORe than the other but you can definitely hear the difference. I think it's all a matter of personal taste and when you came up playing. I'm 43 and grew up playing tubes because the cheapy modeling amps of the day were not fantastic. But these new modeling amps really make it hard for me as someone who just enjoys playing vs giging to purchase more tube amps.
@8MinuteAxe
@8MinuteAxe 9 месяцев назад
Hey Justin. I really enjoyed reading your comment. Very thoughtful and insightful. Your last sentence really touched on something that I'm struggling with. I just don't enjoy gigging as much anymore. The band I used to have that had the most success was NY based and we did a reunion show 2 years ago that went great so we repeated this past summer. We'll do it again next summer. We sold a 275 cap room the first year and we drew about half of that last year. Thankfully, I don't worry about numbers anymore. But, and here's my point, I have a gig tomorrow night (solo acoustic) and I have no interest in doing it. I'll do 40% originals but a lot will be old tried and true originals and halfway through I'll be dying to get out of there. I've done probably 1000 shows. Does that make me kind of a fraud now. Thats how I feel. Anyway, I really appreciate your time and support and your viewpoints are interesting. Take care. Mark
@JustinSchweitzer-Mongo-
@JustinSchweitzer-Mongo- 9 месяцев назад
@@8MinuteAxe I don’t think that makes you a fraud. You can love playing and making music but be over the crowd side of things, 100%. You keep doing what you love about guitar. At the end of the day if you are fulfilled in what you’ve accomplished that day that’s all that matters.
@dmyers9230
@dmyers9230 Год назад
You need to put the Spark EQ pedal inline and cut the bass tones (maybe some mids too) if you want it to sound like the Monoprice. The power of the Spark is its versatility to be many things; but like everything you have to tweak. Thanks for your videos; I enjoy watching.
@zacharyyoung1083
@zacharyyoung1083 4 месяца назад
As a new Spark 40 owner, my immediate thought upon hearing it was the same as most, does the bass knob go any lower?
@fightforfreedom5193
@fightforfreedom5193 Год назад
My old Peavey Studio Pro 112 has finally kicked the bucket. I was going to purchase the Spark as I live in a Condo, I am unable to play anything loud. But, after hearing this comparison I am not so sure about the Spark.
@roklok9856
@roklok9856 Год назад
Nice Rok-Lok usage!
@bluesman354
@bluesman354 9 месяцев назад
I have the mono price 15. 12 in speaker. Love it. I also have the spark 40. Love it. Two different animals. Oh yeah just bought the spark mini and also pre ordered the spark cab. At $286.00 can't wait
@chuckconnors615
@chuckconnors615 Год назад
Can I use the SPARK as my head unit and via the Headphone plug run into another cabinet???? IF SO what is the watt output of the SPARK???
@edwardbristow9331
@edwardbristow9331 9 месяцев назад
My experience of the spark is that the EQ pedal addition was a game changer. Without it i loved the spark and was amazed by how much it made me want to play. But when I quickly swapped between it and a real amp the amp blew it away instantly. So much so that the amp sat on my shelf for a year or so. The EQ pedal addition however gave it so much more controllable presence that it started to sound like a real amp, rather than a device imitating an amp. It still lacks when compared directly, which I put down to the small speakers. The new powered 10 inch cab could be the thing that properly sets this up to compete with a real amp
@8MinuteAxe
@8MinuteAxe 9 месяцев назад
Hey Edward. It's uncanny how similar our experiences have been. If you didn't see my EQ pedal videos then it's really remarkable. This is one of three videos I did a couple years ago about the EQ pedal SPARK AMP “THE FIX” ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HnHUerYr4Qo.html. FYI, I didn't even know about the powered cab until about 30 seconds ago. I just looked it up and I agree with you. Positive Grid really knocked it out of the park. Thanks so much for checking out the video. I sincerely appreciate it. Please take care and be well. -Mark
@tommaxwell429
@tommaxwell429 7 месяцев назад
Agreed! But a need for an equalizer then takes away a position in the chain. I like surf music so I would like two delays plus reverb. Using the equalizer takes away the only delay option. Sigh! I don't know why the Spark software has to limit the number of pedal options, perhaps just CPU performance. But yeah, the Spark is great with headphones! I also would love a built in looper and a good classic spring reverb.
@edwardbristow9331
@edwardbristow9331 7 месяцев назад
@tommaxwell429 it's a shame the pedal order can't be changed. My usage is pretty much some gain, the eq, and a reverb. The rest I don't need. It would be great if you could put the eq in a slot you don't use and then free up the rest for multiple delays and reverbs. Maybe in a future version.....
@techguyMD
@techguyMD Год назад
I pre-ordered the Spark back when it was first announced... I used it for about a year and loved it. But for me, I wanted something I could hook into my PC and edit sounds and record. So I sold the spark on Reverb and got the Boss Katana MKII 100W and couldn't be happier. It sounds AMAZING and I can record both dry and effects direct to my DAW.. and it comes with all the BOSS effect pedals built in! Can't beat that! I don't travel with my amp so portability isn't important to me.
@8MinuteAxe
@8MinuteAxe Год назад
Hey Michael. Thanks for weighing in. I haven't played the Katana but I'm glad you found what you were looking for. That's all that matters. I really appreciate you checking out the video. Please take care and be well. Mark
@danlawrence1739
@danlawrence1739 Год назад
I’ve been looking at the Katana Air Wireless as an eventual replacement for my 2 year old Spark 40. Pricey, however similar footprint to my Spark. Played the MKII 50W version at lessons and really like it; the size and playing volume level are ideal for me. Unfortunately, the 50W doesn’t have the Effect Loop.
@techguyMD
@techguyMD Год назад
@@danlawrence1739 that's actually the reason I went with the 100W.. it has an effects loop.
@dennisssnider
@dennisssnider Год назад
Well I do not have a tube amp and you have given me something to think about. In your experience will the audience notice a difference? Also, have you found a difference in a controlled environment studio or in home versus an outdoor venue?
@stevenkarnisky411
@stevenkarnisky411 Год назад
The audience will hear a difference, but not necessarily "notice" a difference. You will notice the difference, depending upon how discerning your ear is. Average Joe will say, "That's how he meant it to sound", and walk away happy!
@valueofnothing2487
@valueofnothing2487 8 месяцев назад
I would be tempted to compare the 12 inch stage right. In fact, i think about this a lot!
@tomg8888
@tomg8888 Год назад
It almost sounded like the Spark muted the sound compared to the tube amp.
@MintFX0
@MintFX0 5 месяцев назад
Due to mic placement
@louaguado995
@louaguado995 3 месяца назад
He put the mic on the port instead of the speaker 🙄
@denisjams
@denisjams Год назад
Have you tried the Fender Mustang GTX 100?
@jamesfrancisco3130
@jamesfrancisco3130 Год назад
Very informative video, Mark. I have to say that I loved the tube amp sound, for the most part, but on most of your playing the Spark sounded more like the original recording than the Monoprice. That's just my opinion, listening to it filtered through YT and my studio monitors. But from my limited experience, personally, I love tubes.
@8MinuteAxe
@8MinuteAxe Год назад
I share your sentiments James. Thanks!
@michaellubrecht7224
@michaellubrecht7224 Год назад
That's an interesting comment, James. I wasn't thinking in terms of accurate reproduction of original sound - I'm going to have to give it another listen. So much of sound is in the setup of the pedals, etc. it's hard to figure it all out!
@8MinuteAxe
@8MinuteAxe Год назад
Michael. You hit it right on the money? There are just too many variables it all comes down to personal preference. There's no definitive right or wrong. People get really worked up about stuff that really doesn't matter too much. I always joke about the fact that I've played about 800 gigs and nobody has ever complained to me after The gig that they didn't like the way my speaker was voiced. Lol. Take care. Mark
@thekycoffeebean
@thekycoffeebean Год назад
@@8MinuteAxe Now that is a good point ! I once heard (been too long to remember who they were talking about , Sorry !) that a band had a 10 foot tall stack of Marshall`s in he back and every band in the day was envious but truth be know they were using a solid state amp going through the PA and the stack was gutted out cabinets ,, Just For Show !
@blakewilliams3702
@blakewilliams3702 Год назад
Assuming all else was equal, the Tube won by a mile in my ear! Great shoot out. Thanks.
@SimonMorelguitar
@SimonMorelguitar Год назад
100%
@yellowcat1310
@yellowcat1310 Год назад
especially with the gain. the Spark can not compare with the tube amp with distortion
@SimonMorelguitar
@SimonMorelguitar Год назад
@@yellowcat1310 100%
@roberth.6539
@roberth.6539 Год назад
Agreed
@westonjones4749
@westonjones4749 Год назад
This guy gets it.
@thepnkflyd
@thepnkflyd Год назад
Have you ordered the Spark GO yet???
@MichaelDutle
@MichaelDutle Год назад
I have an old Acoustic 30 watt amp and my son brought over his tiny Marshall tube amp. That little thing blew mine out of the water. The difference was incredible. He could get fantastic tone and volume with minimal settings. Then there's the price!
@8MinuteAxe
@8MinuteAxe Год назад
Yeah a lot of it has to do with the quality parts and a good speaker but technology is hurtling forward and soon enough solid state will surpass two in everything. It's inevitable. I remember twenty years ago listening to photographers tell me that film never get replaced.
@thekycoffeebean
@thekycoffeebean Год назад
Yeah , I got the Marshall DSL 1 and I have been impressed with this small amp.
@emansell68
@emansell68 23 дня назад
This is a useful test which confirms that some difference still exists between a modelling amp and the real thing. Spark Amp is a fantastic piece of rig, with dozens of iconic amp simulations plus dozen of effects plus a fantastic app and connection possibilities. Something offering incredible opportunities with credible sound tones. A tube amp needs no justifications: it is the sound of rock/blues and all the music we love. No need to choose: both can exist in our music arsenal mostly when budget items produce great sound
@ka4sxi
@ka4sxi Год назад
Hey Mark, It's funny that you made this video. I had the Spark and the Monoprice 5 watt and I came to the conclusion that I liked the Monoprice better. I sold the Spark to a teenager that was really getting into her guitar lessons. I sold the Spark mainly because I found the new Fender Mustang to have better sounds as a modeling amp then the Spark. I had a Vox NT15 that was awesome but I'm not good enough to get the most out of it so I sold it to a guy that gigs with a band. There's only so much space in a room. However, I kept the Monoprice because it is an inexpensive tube amp that sounds like a tube amp that is plenty loud for my house. Post Covid has been very good to find deals for guitars and amps. I currently have the Boss Katana MKII, Fender Mustang GTX50, and the Monoprice. I think that they all sound better than the Spark. Cheers. Oh, I almost forgot after my long essay, what amps on the Spark did you use to compare?
@100Aces
@100Aces Год назад
Hey Mark!!Love your Epiphone SG mine is black!!
@brettjensen994
@brettjensen994 Год назад
Like Mark said, it's hard to know how it really sounds in the room unless you are there, but I was supposed how the stage right sounded way way better on all the high gain licks!
@8MinuteAxe
@8MinuteAxe Год назад
Hey Brett. A lot of people are assuming and not paying attention. 😕
@phileisermann1257
@phileisermann1257 Год назад
I 100% agree with your observation about listening over phone speakers…. And speakers through which you play an amp matter a lot, too. Was surpised by the mono price amp. That didn’t sound bad at all and price is hard to beat. nice comparison video.
@Charles53412
@Charles53412 Год назад
I agree !
@MrSkeyxc
@MrSkeyxc 9 месяцев назад
Great Video, thanks for all of your time and effort my friend. I have a question please. I have, and love, my Spark Amp and I want to purchase another one to put somewhere else in my home besides my studio. My question is, can I put (BOTH) of these Amps on the (SAME) I-PAD. Thanks so much for your help...
@8MinuteAxe
@8MinuteAxe 9 месяцев назад
Great question. You can control both amps with the same app loaded on a single device but you can't use both simultaneously with one app on one device (at least I don't think you can, if you could it would be the same sound on both amps and in that case you might as well daisy chain out of the headphone into the other one). On android it's possible to download an app more than once on a single device but I just read that it can cause a lot of issues. I hope that helps. Take care. Mark
@bobshomewoodshop7996
@bobshomewoodshop7996 Год назад
I think a few of the licks, like Day Tripper, sounded better on the Spark, but the tube amp sounded better in other places. I agree, Mark, you need to hear what these sound like in person with your own guitar before you can make a purchase decision.
@8MinuteAxe
@8MinuteAxe Год назад
Hey Bob. I appreciate you checking it out. Thanks again for the pick! Mark
@appleturnover519
@appleturnover519 Год назад
Yes! I noticed how the Spark sounded so much closer to the original Day tripper sound, with the darker background.
@8MinuteAxe
@8MinuteAxe Год назад
Thanks for watching the Video end for weighing I appreciate your time and comment. Enjoy the rest of your week and take care. mark
@richegyud5419
@richegyud5419 Год назад
Agree. Some of the songs sounded more like the original on one amp vs the other, depending on what tone was typically in the song.
@signmeuptoo
@signmeuptoo Год назад
I agree Bob! I review picks and with picks and amps you match the tool to the job, moar gear!
@zaporoshti3392
@zaporoshti3392 22 дня назад
For those who wonder, this is Harley Benton Tube 15.
@NDFlyFisher
@NDFlyFisher Год назад
I’ve had a Spark for a couple years. Love it! I rarely use my Blackstar tube amp and pedal board.
@landiahillfarm6590
@landiahillfarm6590 Год назад
As a former owner of an old school Fender tube amp, one that I absolutely adored, I did often find myself having "Marshall envy" at times. Thats the beauty of the Spark; tweaked properly it can sound like either! To me it's a lot like peeps wanting to get into old analog technologies like vinyl albums and old tube receivers. My question is, "Other than nostalgia, why on earth would you want to??". Do you want rabbit ears on your tube TV and a rotary dial phone [only one mind you] in the kitchen again? Not me, no thanks. Been there, done that! LOL
@JohnR242
@JohnR242 Год назад
I certainly agree with you there. Today we are able to have some four or more amps in a single package which sound good (When tweaked right) and don't weigh a ton when we want to move them around. Be well and have fun!! Cheers!!
@amandadavidson6228
@amandadavidson6228 Год назад
awesome sounding little tube amp
@MrYatesj1
@MrYatesj1 Год назад
Great video, I have a question about the Sparks and you seem to be a great resource. Over the last 4 years has the Sparks amp come up with new innovations of itself, meaning if I bought a used Sparks amp (say its 3 to 4 years old) would I still get al the features and functions of a new Sparks amp. Be Well.
@josev4889
@josev4889 3 месяца назад
yes
@brettjensen994
@brettjensen994 Год назад
Just a nugget for thought, even if the spark sounds pretty much as good as the "real" tube Amp, at the end of the day do you want an imitation of an Amp sound or the sound of a real Amp. I love my Vox AC15 and Peavey Duce, they sound "real" to me
@1111MJR
@1111MJR Год назад
I thought the cleans were better on the Spark but the dirtier sounds were a bit ‘muddier’.
@yellowcat1310
@yellowcat1310 Год назад
i want to build a tube amp. then i wonder if i should just use a amp sim on my laptop and well, i guess then i would at least need a speaker cab.
@stevenkarnisky411
@stevenkarnisky411 Год назад
I forgot to put in my hearing aids when I listened, so I put tnem in and listeened again. "I Feel Fine" sounded more like George Harrison on the Spark, but a tube amp was used on the recording. There was as much difference in sound in each amp with and without hearing aids, as there was between the two amps! Every person hears different things. I am not deaf without my hearing aids, but I have lost a lot in the higher frequencies. Every room is different. Every location in the room is different. Every ear is different. Every amp is different! What my ears hear and like may be quite different for the next person. Buy an amplifier that suits your own needs and your own ears. Buy more than one, if you can, and use different ones for different venues. Sound like yourself! Please yourself!
@satanbane
@satanbane 7 месяцев назад
With the Strat, you seemed to be using different pickups with the two amps, so hard to compare. On the crunch and lead stuff, it sounded like there was cab sim and/or reverb/ambiance ("room sound") coming from the Spark, which made it sound boxy and distant, while the tube amp was more "present" and in-your-face, so it sounded better given that you had actual cab and room sound going from the mic setup. So, not a very fair comparison. In the end, of course the tube amp sounded better to me anyway, but I'm biased. Heh heh...
@linus-clocksnmusic
@linus-clocksnmusic Год назад
I do think tube amps have a very classy and unique tone, but a transistor/solid state amp isn't a bad option either. I think especially when using lots of different effects it might be useful to just get an ss amp with pedal effects like the Vox VT-20x or the Spark. Especially for beginners who don't want to buy 12 different pedals for the price of one amp. Something different I found out : Old German tube radios sound amazing when paired with humbuckers
@loudguitarist
@loudguitarist 7 месяцев назад
I think they sounded different, and since the speakers and cabinets are different, it was hard to draw any conclusions. I also think the Spark should be miced farther back bc of the difference in speakers and cabinets. Nice comparison.
@8MinuteAxe
@8MinuteAxe 7 месяцев назад
That's a good call for sure. I mic'd the spark way too close. Thanks for checking out the video and adding to the discussion. I really appreciate your time and comment. Have a great weekend and take care. Mark
@RudeRecording
@RudeRecording Год назад
I'm listening through calibrated headphones using Sonar Works SoundID Reference software. I generally practice on headphones and I've been using amp sim software for the purpose for the last couple of decades. Both amps sounded like small practice amps to me with small speakers. The tube amp sounded boxy to me. IMO the spark did a better job of sounding like a full sized amp with effects. I have a Spark 40 that I'd hoped to use jamming with friends as I thought that 40 watts, even with small speakers would be enough for the job. It's not partially true due to the tube compression effect which makes a 10 watt tube amp sound as loud as a 100 watt solid state amp. The Spark does a great job of emulating a much larger powered amp but the smaller speakers just can't move as much air as a larger speaker. Just not enough piston area. Most of the users including myself, of the Spark 40 complain about the excessive low end in the presets. I heard the problem with your recording, it does make the sound a bit muddy. I do find the spark useful for low volume acoustic practice with my 5 string basses and my baritone electric as well as my guitars but I live in a condo with neighbors just on the other side of the wall which is why I practice with headphones. Unfortunately for me, the Spark 40 fails as a practice tool and doesn't quite do the job as a rehearsal tool that I bought it for. I'm a touring bassist, guitarist, vocalist and recording engineer with over 5 decades of experience and I also have Bias FX 2 and Amp 2 software that I use regularly in my recording work. My biggest gripe is that I can't use any of the tones that I create in those plugins on the Spark. I now have the Line 6 HX Stomp and HX Native software that solve that problem. Since I'm also a singer, I can just take a powered SR speaker with the HX Stomp and all my tones, for all of my instruments to a rehearsal with a minimum of weight lifting. BTW: Really like your vids about 12 string. I recently built one and because I started playing in the mid 60's I just love the jangle...
@jimkelehan1366
@jimkelehan1366 Год назад
Certain songs are better on the Spark, and some on the tube. My sound was only as good as the speakers in my hearing aids! 😂👍🏻 It was good to hear something else. I’m stuck on my Vox. Thanks Mark for this great video. I listened again and I’m liking the tube a little better. I’ll give it another listen just to make sure. 👍🏻
@Thrive-Off-Grid
@Thrive-Off-Grid 7 месяцев назад
The Spark units do not have IR Cabs like other sims do. Not to mention any control over the IR's output signals or mic placement on certain cabs. I run the amps and IR Cabs from my HeadRush MX5 into the Spark Go and just use the FX on the Spark side. It sounds a lot better running the amps and cabs from the HeadRush. Plus this really opens up more versitility as I can use the four presets with different FX chains and can then switch amp and cabs remotely on the MX-5. But now the new Boss IR-2 just came out that I think is going to be the perfect plug in for the Spark. Just no one knows it just yet. But basically that pedal is all the amps and IR cabs from the Boss Katana without all the bloat. Just a simple interface and those amps and cabs and then the Spark can complete the FX chain, mixer etc and still have the user interface and integration. Where the Spark really shines is its interfacing ability. Not only do you have the bluetooth connectivety but you can convert the headphone port to a line out by switching it to mono.
@Rstar63
@Rstar63 3 месяца назад
I've had my Spark for quite some time. And I enjoy the hell out of it, I enjoy my Mesa Triple Rectifier but at home the Spark works great in case you have neighbors 😅
@LoveOneAnotherHeSaid
@LoveOneAnotherHeSaid 7 месяцев назад
It's all about each player. I like the fire brigade visit caused by an old Vox, not all would.
@thekycoffeebean
@thekycoffeebean Год назад
The SR put`s me in mind of an old Gorilla amp LOL. I never paid much attention to the Spark but it did not sound bad at all !
@jamiebriggs8277
@jamiebriggs8277 9 месяцев назад
Right off the bat I'm concerned about the "apples to apples" part since the Spark has multiple speakers behind that grill...you can't mic it the same as single speaker combo. Besides which you can do plenty with either amp to influence the EQ
@jah8859
@jah8859 Год назад
just like clothes. I gotta try before I buy to ensure that just right fit. Cheers Mark I'm back ☮❤
@explorervango880
@explorervango880 Год назад
I have a Boss Katana 100, Fender Blues Deluxe, Vox AC30C2, and Friedman BE100 Deluxe with a 2x12 Orange closed back cabinet. I also have a HeadRush with speaker. Being able to turn it on and play around for a few minutes here and there the HeadRush is perfect, but I do this in my living room so I can’t leave it laying around all the time defeating the practicality. Bought a Spark 40 and it sits on the table. Bought another one to leave at my buddy’s house and got a Mini so we had a second amp to jam with here or there. I also use the Mini as a Bluetooth speaker when I watch RU-vid on my iPad. The tube amps are better. I like the HeadRush more, but the Spark is the one that’s out of the way for a quick practice or jam. The app has some great features, and you can connect to a Spark at a guitar store to demo a guitar with the amp you have experience with at home instead of something you aren’t familiar with and need to spend most of your time playing with the amp to get a tone you like out of an eight inch solid state whatever.
@MattZildjian
@MattZildjian 9 месяцев назад
the spark 40 is severly let down by its speakers, I'm hoping the Spark Cab will give the Spark a new opportunity to shine. Will you be testing the Spark Cab?
@aletheiazorayya9092
@aletheiazorayya9092 Год назад
Just recently rented a 12 string from long & mcquade, an Epiphone Songmaker DR-212. Absolutely in love with the sound that it produces, It would be a true blessing to be entered in the giveaway & an honor to win. Just discovered your content today while looking into 12 string theory & love what you're doing!
@user-os3ko9fw3c
@user-os3ko9fw3c 8 месяцев назад
Both sound good to me.
@SimonMorelguitar
@SimonMorelguitar Год назад
Valves for life!
@EveyoneCallsMeTheDude
@EveyoneCallsMeTheDude 8 месяцев назад
The technology is what’s worth the money.. To be able to get the sounds you want from the tone cloud, no more messing with pedals trying to get the right sound.. getting the right sound with a push of a button is worth the price of admission alone in my opinion
@PandemiuM-gtr
@PandemiuM-gtr 11 месяцев назад
I think that you put the microphone at the bass port of the spark... instead, for me, the spark sound better with low volume, and you can use more preset, the good side for the tube amp is that the more volume, must be sound better than the spark, but with a summ cable or with a better micro setup... I think that in venues I carry the spark and a foot controler 😂
@ride8575
@ride8575 4 дня назад
I think the tube amp sounded much better. But I have a Spark, and I'm enjoying it. The great thing is, you don't have to stick with the same amp forever! Or, you could also have two!
@Kipperbob
@Kipperbob 10 дней назад
The Spark would require the use of the EQ, that or compare with a room mic about 6feet from both amps , because mic placement plays a big role in the sound you capture, The Spark can be set up to sound exactly like your tube amp, but your tube can only do one amp, whereas the Spark can do many amps.
@davebooth5847
@davebooth5847 Год назад
One thing I could clearly hear was the small speakers on each. The larger driver on the monoprice made a huge difference in the sound, but you could still hear "small cab." Having said that, the trebles on the spark were distinctly low, in all three comparisons. No, I don't think the spark will stand up to a tube amp with a well-matched cab but there's one thing we ALL need to remember... "Perfect is the mortal enemy of 'good enough'"
@8MinuteAxe
@8MinuteAxe Год назад
Hey Dave. For sure. The main reason I didn't break out the amps in the back was speaker size mote than cost. When I bought the monoprice four years ago I assessed it as a good sounding amp that could never play itself out of an 8 inch. I used to use 2 ×10s but switched to 1x12s when more gigs required walking further distances. Great to hear from.you. I hope you're well. Take care. Mark
@Bronco2Cj
@Bronco2Cj Год назад
@@8MinuteAxe Do tube amps particularly burn more electricity?
@FrederickCouch
@FrederickCouch 7 месяцев назад
In my opinion, the clean sound was clearly the best on the Spark. However, as you went for more tone breakup, the Monoprice emerged as better. But again, that is also situationally dependent.
@8MinuteAxe
@8MinuteAxe 7 месяцев назад
Hey Frederick. You're absolutely right. The Spark has a lot of depth for a little amp. I really appreciate your feedback and for your time. I hope you have a great weekend. Please take care. Mark
@louaguado995
@louaguado995 7 месяцев назад
You should have just spent the 50 extra bucks on the 15 watt Monoprice amp with the 12 inch speaker. Sounds much better than that little junk Monoprice amp. And as someone else pointed out, the spark has 2 speakers but you didn't mic either one, you mic'd the bass port. Take the grill off, it's only held on by velcro, then you'll see where the speakers are, they're not in the middle.
@johnrichardson1867
@johnrichardson1867 8 месяцев назад
Tube amp way better More chime ,articulation & balance. The Spark Amp sounded like it had a blanket over it ( muffled) The Day Tripper riff sounded close to the record but George used a Gibson 345 on that track..
@stankruger6823
@stankruger6823 Год назад
I'm primarily an acoustic player but I really enjoyed this video.
@8MinuteAxe
@8MinuteAxe Год назад
Thanks so much Stan.
@MichaelDutle
@MichaelDutle Год назад
Same here, Sam. I liked it, too.
@MichaelDutle
@MichaelDutle Год назад
Stan, sorry!
@yellowcat1310
@yellowcat1310 Год назад
me too, and it makes it hard to choose an amp for my electric. i have a little Peavy bass amp but that's it.
@angelrile
@angelrile Год назад
Same here! I don't know much about electric guitar stuff but this got me all the more interested
@zdunne
@zdunne Год назад
I don’t have a tube amp or positive grid so I would need both to make a fair comparison
@8MinuteAxe
@8MinuteAxe Год назад
Hey Zach. That works too. :)
@westonjones4749
@westonjones4749 Год назад
I feel like they really are different tools for different jobs.
@truthstillmatters59
@truthstillmatters59 Год назад
They both sounded good to me but that is more of a complement to the guitar player than the equipment.
@jlepre752
@jlepre752 9 месяцев назад
I own 2 spark amps, but I don't consider myself a FANboy. To my ears the Spark wins hands down. It's just more full, and smooth. The rube amp was a bit harsh for me. I was listening using a pair of in ear monitors.
@pauljohnson3686
@pauljohnson3686 11 месяцев назад
The closest all solid state.. tube modelling amp that I have used is a Line 6 Duoverb.. It really nails the way that tube amps clip...Its almost impossible to tell the difference in a live setting.... Its worth noting that when line 6 were developing the digital modelling back in the late 90s....that they blindfolded respectable musicians and let them play the model and the real thing... Many could not tell which was the real... So if they were so good then.. how much better can it be now considering how these musicians were so baffled as to which they were playing through???
@thereverendsam413
@thereverendsam413 3 месяца назад
Obviously there's a personal taste aspect to this, but to my ears, the Spark sounds considerably better. I'm very much considering a Spark Go and a Spark Cab. I don't play much electric in my set, and hauling a tube amp and a pedal board for it feels more hassle than I want.
@signmeuptoo
@signmeuptoo Год назад
I've tied my friends Spark 40 nAnd the Monoprice both. Both are good but for different things.
@clivebeck2ndaccount557
@clivebeck2ndaccount557 13 дней назад
Both sound okay. The Spark seems more convenient and needs less devices to get different sounds
@Kianquenseda
@Kianquenseda 6 месяцев назад
your tube was best but can you play a bass thru it ?
@albertmarkethinkpr1325
@albertmarkethinkpr1325 4 месяца назад
But the Spark was not created to replace a tube amp, it's a modern solution for guitar players that cannot play loud tube amps in apartments or are always on a go, at the same time it could be a budget saver, since you have many presets, pedals and amp model that do a decent job replicating the original. I have tried most desktop amps in the market and I think the Spark is the best, the only downside si that you need to fiddle wit the app most of the time, but once you set it up to your liking its a great "Tool". Ps. I still like my ENGL head.
@davidkastin4240
@davidkastin4240 11 месяцев назад
I hear a big difference. The Stageright sounds good, the Spark doesn't sound good to me.
@rednikindigo734
@rednikindigo734 10 месяцев назад
I prefer the spark, greetings 😊🇩🇪
@danlawrence1739
@danlawrence1739 Год назад
I have a small space with lots of people around. My Spark 40 sits on a lamp table and I use it daily. My small Blackstar tube amp gets very little love…
@joesteffe6155
@joesteffe6155 7 месяцев назад
My vote is the Spark
@ophic
@ophic Год назад
The Spark sounds phasey. I think putting the mic in between the 2 speakers is a bad placement. Also the bass port is in the middle. This shows up more with the distortion adding high frequencies. That said, the result isn't too surprising. The Spark is a very small cabinet, and sounds like it.
@MrPaul8870
@MrPaul8870 6 месяцев назад
My honest opinion 1 if on a budget or buying for a beginner you cannot go wrong with purchasing digi present. 2 mono is better than digital it's louder but really to get all the effects on like what these digi amps will cost a packet. Especially buying boss pedals for example or just a great looper like the ditto+ can cost around 100 pounds just for one pedal. Most people except for musicians will not notice the difference straight away.like you have shown in this video. 2 one thing that I never see but should see is a graphic equaliser pedal used before any digi amp this makes a hell of a difference and would advise to buy one as next purchase if starting fresh. What I really hate is some muscians use these digi amps and software to make music. This has really been a bug knowing just by listening it doesn't sound nowhere close to a basic amp aulti effects unit but since line 6 broke the mould back in mid 90s the technology seemed to move towards a swiss army style all in one products than just having one good sturdy knife that might only do one thing but does it job 100%. If you want the best invest in the best but please be wise on every purchase as the market will swallow your good hard cash time and time again than just going straight to the top. Just a basic amp and a gt1 from boss is what I suggest beginners to buy if they listen but no they buy a digi amp and I don't blame them but if playing in a band please relate to originality than digi and let the music blossom not like what we here today 24/7 in metal music today and realise that using digi as it will not stand as it should
@SirBelvedere333
@SirBelvedere333 5 месяцев назад
Spark sounds better to me overall. I have old fender, peavey, Gibson tube amps I’ve had since the 70’s and 80’s and several SS amps to choose from. When playing out I mostly use tube. All my amps sound great to me.
@user-os3ko9fw3c
@user-os3ko9fw3c 10 месяцев назад
I'm going to compare it to my Engle Rock Master using a 212 Laney Cub Cabinet today. No I won't lol. Whatever inspires is what's important. I can drive myself nuts tweaking and comparing when I should just be practicing!
@sterlingmcvay2469
@sterlingmcvay2469 Год назад
I mainly use the Positive Grid Spark, because I live in a Hotel-by-the-week, in insanely overpriced ORLANDO, FL...... I have a Blackstar KT Studio 10, but on the lowest setting its nearly Too Loud.
@Celticsaint777
@Celticsaint777 8 месяцев назад
I hate strats. I wish people would use Les Pauls or sheraton etc instead of strats.
@Celticsaint777
@Celticsaint777 8 месяцев назад
At least he used the SG. That was a good move.
@tommaxwell429
@tommaxwell429 11 месяцев назад
The output section of the spark is probably it's weakest link. The small 4" speakers are not going to sound as good as the 8" in the tube amp. The spark was big on the lows and weak on the highs as everyone knows. To me the tube amp sounded better, but I can't attribute that to the tubes so much as the speakers. That said, the Spark is phenomenal and offers so much flexibility that a tube amp and a boat load of pedals can't match. Not to mention the convenience of the spark and not having to carry a pedal board around with you. With all of that said, plug a good pair of headphones into the Spark and it sounds terrific! The spark was never meant to be a high end performance amp. It just can't do it! But then neither is the little tube amp you featured. These are practice amps and small room jamming amps. The spark holds it's own in that regard and unless you have them sitting side by side doing an AB comparison, you'll be very happy with the Spark tones. Bottom line is do what you want. You won't be playing a rock concert with either amp, but you'll have a heck of a lot of fun with the versatility of the Spark. And if you want to change the sound, there are plenty of mods to do it, including interfacing with a 2x12 speaker cab. It's all good, don't get stuck in the weeds of "the best".
@dplagoon
@dplagoon 9 месяцев назад
Now there's a cab you can buy
@CthulhuInc
@CthulhuInc Год назад
cool video, mark! it's funny, but, i haven't paid any attention to getting a guitar amp yet! i'm still learning using the rocksmith 2014 program on my pc, but i'll get there one day! i'll send you an email soon as i haven't answered your Q last time about my Reverend airwave 12 ;)
@ArizonaMMJ
@ArizonaMMJ 9 месяцев назад
Every demo of the spark ive heard has it sounding like its in a box and very low end and not too great.
@juanvaldez4043
@juanvaldez4043 11 месяцев назад
IMO there is a “feel” that you get with tube and analog gear. RU-vid videos can only show you, but you can’t get any sort of tactile experience
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