I’m happy you’re talking about this! I like Acolyte and I have a lot of criticisms with the show but the hate this show is receiving is on a level I’ve never seen before in Star Wars and that’s saying a lot. It’s perfectly fine to dislike the show and be critical of it, but being an asshole on the Internet to people that do enjoy it is ridiculous.
People are free to like whatever they like, for better or worse. If i see a show or experience a game and end up not liking it i simply cannot bring myself to kick up such a huge fuss and make it my entire personality. I dont have a long enough life-span to worry about such things.
I dig the Acolytle as well honestly. It's not perfect but I feel that it is very intriguing. People can like what they like, and dislike what they like. I agree that A LOT of the hate of this show is very uncessary, and also misinformed. I don't feel like this show breaks lore like people claim it to be. For example Episode 3, yeah its the weakest though I don't think its as egregious as people make it sound. Anakin was birthed through the force, why can't the twins? And the Jedi not being perfect peacekeepers and just "The Good Guys" is lore accurate as well. They've always been more morally grey and etc. I feel like people just need to calm down, take a step back and realize its just a show. It's not worth all the discourse and bickering and fighting and name calling etc. I think someone like Sam Witwer said something along the lines of if you let things get personal and start insulting people for liking what they like, or disliking what they dislike in Star Wars, then you're not really a fan of this franchise. Star Wars should be a celebration of cool things in Sci-fi. I really hope more come together and like what they like. And just remember to have a good time. And if its not for you, that's okay too! World gonna keep spinning.
For me, the reason I don't like it is not because of the lore or anything like that. It's the awful writing, the lead's and the other's acting, and by the book nature of everything. I am not saying Amandla Stenberg is a bad actor but she plays both characters exactly the same. Whoever is directing her needs their own direction. I can go on a whole bit about the writing and everything so far has been so predictable. Who didn't think it was who everyone is calling Smilo Ren?
I think you can definitely enjoy it for what it is, but from what I’ve seen a lot of people are angry simply because the things they are doing combined with the time it takes place makes it’s connection to the main lore horrible. And that’s understandable
The reason people like George Lucas Star Wars is because there were ground rules that he established. Disney SW decides not to go by those ground rules which makes OG fans angry. I’m an all in kinda guy it’s redo EU and make it canon or don’t use any EU, Disney picks and chooses which can lead to a lot of contradictions in EU and then they have to fit it into new SW. which waters down both products unless done well like Andor or Rogue One.
Bruce Lee's God daughter Diana Lee Inosanto is Morgan Elsbeth and also trains some of the Star Wars actors in knife and sword fighting. These fight scenes seem better choreographed because because of her and other Bruce Lee lineage stunt fight people
I cant do it, Star wars just aint what it used to be, Star Wars sucks now and i have 1000s of dollars of Star Wars stuff that ive been offloading for about a year now
I can't hate because I'm looking forward to a game the internet hates for no real reason which is Concord. You gotta try games or watch shows, movies, for yourself instead of letting the internet persuade you.
The one complaint i truly dont understand is how people think the jedi are being misrepresented. People are mad that the Jedi are shown to be hypocrites and its just like...yeah? Thats literally the point of the prequels and the Clone Wars???
People can like or hate what ever they feel like. The problem is that there are alot of people on both sides who if you don't agree with them they label you. In star wars. This may gwt me alot of hate but the og trilogy og films are not perfect. Nothing is. You may find flaws in things you like or good in things you hate. As for the show, the acolyte.... I do have problems with it, and there are things I like. Las episode I really enjoy it but if its one thing to me that drags it alot down are the twins. They and their story is the most uninteresting thing in the show. You may disagree andvthsts ok.
I didn't hate the first two episodes, saw a clip of the chant from the third episode and decided to stop watching the show lol but you've convinced me to give it another shot
What does this even mean? So people can't have an opinion on the show or it's being "emotional"? These attempts at downplaying opposing views is so weird.
@@SolidSnake240 I love how they claim criticizing the show is toxic yet they're literally the first ones to throw the punch defending it calling ppl like us haters or non fans or in this case over emotional. Ffs dude, we're SW fans who are passionate and want better writing. They're basically saying "accept it for what it is and shut up"
I also "like" the Acolyte I've seen one episode of it it's not as bad as anything else they've made since the prequels. Hearing it only gets worse, I might not bother with the rest. Is anyone saying the prequels are good? I think even most fans can acknowledge they're not. Andor is the best thing since Empire and parts of Jedi. Nothing else they've made is even half close to average. Acolyte is bad and still stands above all of it. It's kinda funny people will say that Andor is less Star Wars due to lack of iconography, despite it looking the most like Star Wars, even down to the 70s-80s hairstyles. Whereas something like The Mandalorian will completely misrepresent established cultures, characters, even Luke Skywalker, yet people cried over "his" (Luke Skinwalker) cameo in season 2. Because of how the sequels destroyed him. Cool there's Jedi, but what if they don't behave in continuity? Cool lightsaber fights, but what if choreography doesn't represent character? What if lightsaber effectiveness is neutered? Simply having a thing should not be enough. If they can't understand it, they only recreate some of the visual. I could probably like the Acolyte, yeah it starts off dull, not as forgettable as Ahsoka. Almost enough contrivance in the first episode to be as bad as Fallout. It's crazy that people can excuse that and not this. I do just wish it was good. The Mandalorian with half the quality of Andor could be fine. The same for The Acolyte. It just needs to be made by people with any degree of competency.
I was mostly with you up until the choreography. I just came back to read what I'd written after watching a clip of the fight. Damn, it's terrible. The random spinning in Revenge of the Sith is character. There's so much more going on in that fight than just trying to look cool for an audience. The fight in episode 5 of the Acolyte is borderline worthless. The Knights essentially end themselves, it's completely incompetent, there's far more there of trying to look cool than any actual fighting either. Over telegraphing etc. It feels as wrong as the fight in the throne room in TLJ, it's "cool" because flashing lights and scary bad guy, not choreography.
I thought the prequels were great tbh also they go over what your talking about at 11:13 in the books alot it's definitely one of the reasons he goes evil padme was just the straw that broke the camels back he had visions about his mom dying just like padme he didn't want the same thing to happen again.
I am liking Acolyte a lot. I even liked the first fight scene, so it didn't start rough in my eyes. Book of Boba Fett was really good if you stuck through it. The worst part of Star Wars is the Kylo Ren stuff. And yeah, don't look into Star Wars too deep because it's fiction and won't make sense in real life.
Kenny I respect your opinion on the acolyte but one of these days your gonna to see through Disney's BS and until that day comes I will still love and support your content.
Combat has been great! But... other than that the story telling has been kinda shit. Its picked up a bit in the latter half but that early first 4 eps was a slog to get through because it was just baaad.
@@nore5888 im 100% an andor guy. I prefer a slow deep thought provoking story. This one kinda just contradicts old canon for no reason. Again, fights were cool! Genuinely. The story wasnt it chief. Very flat. It does also feel like they swapped directors mid series
People these days are way too eager to tell you what you should and shouldn’t like. If you’re a fan of something, then that should be all that matters, right?
That's not the issue people are having. Why slap "Star Wars" on this? Truly? They are deviating from Star Wars while still using their brand. That's the major problem. This could've literally been a stand-alone thing not related to Star Wars and it would've been recieved better.
@@jonteguy Idk man. Awkward dialogue, excellent lightsaber choreography, a focus on the decline of the Jedi order? Sounds just like the prequels to me.
@@SaintMarianneThe prequels suck, true. Dialogue is part of that. This show does a lot worse. Characters travelling halfway across the universe, in the time others walk through a forest to arrive at the same time. Diversions only to end up going to the place they would have been going anyway. Nothing adheres to any sense of time. The lightsaber choreography is by no means excellent. Disney tier camera that obscures through lighting and foreground. Choreography that does not represent character. Their version of the "decline of the jedi order" as you put it, goes against how we see them in TPM. * Not through any failure on their ideas, but incompetency, that the writers likely wouldn't notice. Were you to point out of of the many bad decisions made, it'd likely not be intentional. Sending a new Knight and Padawan to apprehend someone believed to have injured multiple people unarmed and then killed a Jedi Master with a knife. All the inconsistencies with Yord's character and relationships. Bringing the witness to the suspect. Transporting what they believe to be a Jedi killer in an unmanned ship. *I've only seen episode 1 and some clips, so I can't say a lot about the show. However even episode 1, which I think is ok by recent standards of all of the other garbage they're produced, is certainly not even prequel tier. Maybe they'll explain some things by the end of the series, but when is that ever enough? When does it ever make sense? How often do we have to hear "they'll explain it next season"?
I dont think you are a shill (only you know that, at the end of the day) but i do think you like bad writting, bad acting and overall just bad quality tv, this is on par with some of those early 90's sci fi shows that were c+, and ofc, theres also always the chance you are desperate for clicks, wich is most likely, since it worked, because i and others clicked and commented on this "hot take".
I understand what she was trying to do to get us to care about the people prior to the last episode, I just wish the first 4 had MORE of what we got from episode 5. Dispersed and paced better and maybe one more pass in dialogue and Logic continuity. I’m gonna finish it but episode 5 was amazing.
If you like Ass You Like Ass, no Shame in it my Brother I like Ass, just on People not in Quality of my Star Wars Shows (Note I'm waiting to binge it this is just coming from a reviewer I align with all his Star Wars takes on.)
Wookie Jedis are awesome, you can kinda see one in action in Bad Batch, also the metal is in legends books, called Cortosis. Also I enjoyed Clone Wars, Bad Batch and Rebels a lot for the story build. Clone wars made me appreciate the prequels more, Bad batch made me love Andor even more, Rebels helps give you that tension for Ashoka
I've enjoyed it, writing has been up and down for me but I've really enjoyed the action if I'm being completely honest. And it's Star Wars. Star Wars is the most up and down series I've been a fan of since I was 4 (now 29). It's got issues but Star Wars as a whole has had issues to me and I've long accepted that.
The show still sucks. One episode with a good fight scene wont save it from terrible story and writing. It would have been so much better if its just Sol and Jecki investigating the mysterious murders of Jedi. The twins are just bad and bring nothing to the story and i highly doubt its gonna pay off.
That's not the issue people are having. Why slap "Star Wars" on this? Truly? They are deviating from Star Wars while still using their brand. That's the major problem. This could've literally been a stand-alone thing not related to Star Wars and it would've been recieved better.
Yes the show is good 😂 however when you change the lore the characters birth the CANNON itself and say hey yeah this is what happened not that.. like that’s crazy the director Leslie of the show contradicts with Georges Star Wars. Ep 5 had me to all the other junk is kinda just meh what ever to me.. but yeah that’s why there’ is such a mass hysteria over this project Disney Put out. it’s just not “Star Wars” George Lucas good.
My brother in christ, Ki-Adi-Mundi's age holds absolutely no bearing on the story or canon at large. His age was initally revealed in a trading card game, and that same trading card game also says that Owen Lars was Obi-Wan Kenobi's brother...because that's what the original novelization of A New Hope also said. Point being, the details in supplementary materials are constantly being retconned, and it's been that way long before Disney acquired the IP. It happened all the time when George Lucas was at the helm. Running with this narrative that the showrunner is going out of their way to contradict established lore is nonsensical. When I read complaints like yours that are along the lines of "this isn't the Star Wars George Lucas created" it really confuses me. I don't think you guys actually know Star Wars as well as you think you do.
@unrooolie oh its absolutely an excuse. I don't see why it's so hard for people to step back and say "ah I just don't think this thing is for me" and move on. They feel like there has to be something they can cling on to that justifies their vitriol, so they'll nitpick the most miniscule aspects of something. I remember there was a youtuber with a pretty huge following saying Andor was breaking the immersion of Star Wars because there were building made of bricks, and people ran with that for months...it's all so corny lol
@@n0nsticknick I've heard it's not from a trading card game, that game referenced a different source, as did many other things referenced each other since. Correct me if I'm wrong, it's not particularly the part that matters. I'm not going to argue over which media canon matters until it doesn't. That's basically all of it, even the movies. Canon should usually be synonymous with continuity. Regardless of whether canon was changed or not, the show's awful. I don't know anything about Fallout lore, plenty of people said it broke canon, plenty said it didn't. Some gave examples. It's not something I had any investment in and the show was terrible enough on its own. The Acolyte is similar, as much as a fan of Star Wars as I was, (I might even have that card game somewhere, I played games where you can play as Ki-Adi-Mundi etc.) I didn't know his age. I don't particularly care about his age. I did since hear the apparent story about him, that would no longer be canon due to his appearance here, that he was granted permission by the council to reproduce, due to his people living a short time and being on the brink of extinction. The show removes that aspect of character from him. Even if someone didn't find that interesting, it'd be hard to argue it's not more interesting than his appearance in The Acolyte. The question is, why him? Did they include him to address his line about the Sith, in regard to the dark side users in their show? Some people think he will be part of a cover-up. That significantly harms the character. For what? A cameo? To explain how they're not actually sith? Despite in TPM, Qui-Gon instantly recognizing Maul as one, despite him not quite actually being one? Disney already destroyed Luke, Han, went back for Boba, Obi-Wan and Vader. At this point who even cares what's canon? In canon Thrawn is a worthless incompetent loser. Is it even Ki-Adi-Mundi's turn too? I think people are more worried about why they used him. Just because people recognize him by his appearance? It's just one more aspect of questionable writing in an already poorly written show. Because they chose to use him, they have to explain it before the end of the season. However they decide to explain away his involvement here, why would anyone expect it to be sufficient when very little else of the show is competent? I'm tired of "they'll answer it later" "they'll answer it next season". Maybe in a better show, I could believe that. It'll just have holes or contrivance or characters being stupid. It will never meet even the lowest expecation. As for breaking canon, when have people even accepted George Lucas's canon? Who shot first? It changes what people know Han to be. Do you think anyone can even reason that the events of the sequels would have taken place in that world? When you watch the original trilogy, is that what you consider the fate of those characters? Frankly I don't care what's canon, but their version is always worse and often entirely lacks continuity.
Enjoy and like what you like i to i am liking it. And enjoying The tv show its something different Its the toxic grifters in youtube twiter twich that lie and slander and make up stuff just for the clickbait hateout rage money. And cant stop bii about every thing and all the shows & movies and not leting people enjoy or like nothing Like if you dont like it or enjoy it then dont see it and dont bii about it online that simple
