I think this chick knows exactly what she is doing to OP. Shes keeping him on the line for when her relationships dont work and she needs entertainment or emotional pick me up.This is not ASD etc
On the vacation story....don't get mad bc your childless friend didn't offer to watch your kids. How bout you don't bring the kids on vacation? Let them sleepover at grandparents or aunts and uncles.
29:53 she is unbelievably cruel. "Because of my ASD" is BS in this context. Shes such a manipulator and she TRAINED in manipulation techniques. Shes not a therapist I'd trust at all.
As a person with ASD: Please, infantilize me like everyone and tell me how mentioning ones ASD is BS when talking about how they take and understand things around them and not understanding how most people take their words. Explain to me how its irrelevant and BS like I'm 5. Also: this is coming from someone who does think Winnie was cruel. I'm just inclined to believe a person with ASD when they tell me they didn't understand something was taken differently. Her intentions weren't cruel, but that doesn't mean she wasn't cruel.
Girls: Omg, we were just being platonic, cuddling with our legs wrapped around each other, strictly platonic making out, and *STRICTLY PLATONIC* grinding. Thats. All. 🙅🏻♀️ Guys: Friend 1: Dude, I’m drunk and there’s shit on my bed, can I sleep in here on the floor? Friend 2: Bitch, you got the same floor in your room too. Go sleep on that one.
Platonic kissing is definitely a thing! I think you can be very physically attracted to your friends but know you don’t/wouldn’t want a relationship with them. I feel like it’s more common/accepted in LGBTQ+ friendships and feminine friendships. But it’s definitely a thing!
Winnie is very self aware and using ASD as an excuse. It’s possible she did self diagnoses (considering her profession) as a way to excuse her behavior and continue such manipulation with no accountability. If she’s an actual practicing professional I’d report her at the very first sign of manipulation toward patients. She’s a horrible person. She knows it. She has no remorse toward what she’s doing. She needs to be completely cut off and OP needs to move on.
Vacay story: It’s wild what people will do to avoid vulnerability. They had so many opportunities to tell op. I had friends like this in the past and after cutting contact, their friends reached out to me to shit talk em. Wild.
29:51 mark: She’s using OP as a backup. She’s keeping him on the hook and trying to keep open her options while having him to fall back on. OP, doesn’t matter if she loves you or not, she’s a pos regardless.
Story 2: She's not going to date him because she doesn't need to. He's willing to fills her needs without requiring her loyalty or commitment which makes him the perfect placeholder, She's free to use him as a to fill her emotional needs until she find someone she actually wants and respects. Then she'll keep him around as a backup. She's not oblivious to anything, she knows exactly what she's been doing. He really needs to cut her out of his life and move on. But that would involve him opening his eyes to see just how toxic she really is.
46:41 I’m so glad Sophia has parents because I’m not parents. People without kids in their way of the way they want to. I don’t want my kids to get in their way.
I believe the episode of Friends that Sophia is refering to is the episode where Monica and Chandler go on their honeymoon. The original storline was suppose to have Chandler make a b*mb joke and then they get detained by security but once 9/11 happened they had to change the storyline
The friend of benefit is gonna be a psychologist and understand feelings but can’t understand ops feelings? Nah she’s crazy she doesn’t know her feelings and doesn’t know others feelings she cannot be a psychologist
Y'all (the commenters, not John Riley and Soph) From the perspective of a person with ASD She was cruel and even if it was because of her ASD that doesn't mean what she did didn't hurt op, but I can tell y'all dont have good relationships with people on the spectrum. For example: I am actually dog shit at detecting my own emotions but I can usually tell when my boyfriend's mood starts changing. I dont know Winnie so I can't actually judge her, but I know for a fact I've done and said couple things not realizing they were couple things. I, for the longest time, did not know that people thought resting their head on anothers lap is an intimate thing. Not until I was told out right by my boyfriend. Also, it's a spectrum disorder, no two people are going to be the exact same.
Ah, nuerodivergence. Women are bullied difrently, so to compensate we make really good mirrors for others while also being literal AF. This means when we say 'f-buddy' and also 'i love you' you should her 'I love you as a buddy I spicy sleep with' while expecting open communication about others getting spicy sleep. We also struggle with changes in relationship dynamics, so once you're an f-buddy, that's all it's going to be. We can also look clingy due to hyperfocus, and it's easy to misunderstand. And chances are, what you called 'increadbly flirty with evryone' is just "someone told me it's rude to talk to people without making eye contact. This means unless your partner is ALSO neurodivergent, people will cram a personality you didn't come with over the top of your face and then have a meltdown over the fact that the communications you ASSUMED happened were never direct enough for true bonds to form...and the f-buddy was just there because the real thing is so hard to find.
Guys I’m kinda lost, Riley’s going to be a dad? I saw them joking around with something related to Riley wanting to breastfeed his baby. Maybe it was a bad trip though I dunno 💀
