I took Charlie Puth’s music class so you don’t have to 

Never take a class from someone "naturally" talented and gifted, always take a class from the people who struggled to get those same concepts.

Honestly I think that the people that are naturally talented or just “get it” (whatever “it” is) make the worst teachers. A lot of time they can’t really explain the why, because it just makes sense to them

"I'm not a beginner at all, but certainly not an expert" is the story of my whole life

As someone who also has perfect pitch, I'm just amazed at the fact that someone managed to turn something so uninteresting into a talking point, let alone, a career. I've seen him do his perfect pitch shtick on some American TV show and I'm like "WTF people clap for him figuring out a note?", the absolute best reaction I can get for telling my wife about our neighbor's bike's ignition sound pitch and perfect 4th intervals is a "wow that's great, I really don't care"

For that price you can take an audio engineering or music production class at a community college and actually get high quality instruction and 1 on 1 attention lol

I do like his music, but this video is literally the definition of the person who is so far ahead in their field that they can no longer teach the basics, if it is actually meant to be catered to beginners.

Music teacher here! Classes like these are a big problem nowadays with the ease of accessibility with the internet. You don't get to see what you're getting, but "it costs money so it must teach me something others aren't!" There are so many great content creators who go out of their way to educate for free, and unless you're taking a real class which gives you feedback and communication with an instructor, you're never going to learn more from these classes. Thank you for making this video! It's a shame to see that Charlie Puth, an artist I have a lot of respect for, is getting involved with these scams. He honestly probably doesn't have much to do with it other than recording the video(s).

A good teacher doesn't have to be exceptionally talented in his/her own speciality, all they need is just knowing how to speak well and acquiring an effective way of delivering messages. Problem is that most of immune talents (like Charlie) lack of these basic skills because sometimes they can't even explain why they ''get" it. In this case Charlie didn't scam, he's just simply an awful tutor, that's all

I took Andrew Huang's class on music production, and that did a lot of the things you say is missing from Charlie's class. He was very specific about everything, and is just very good at teaching. He used free plugin mostly, or offered free plugins as alternatives to the ones he used. I highly recommend it! I didn't know much production but have been writing songs all my life.

advice to beginners: you do NOT need fancy plugins you see your favorite artist use. realize without the ear they have, the room they record in, and the voice they have, you will not get the same sound. i wish i learned that before i dropped $1000s on plugins moral of the story. learn the basics, and i reccommend getting acoustic foam on your walls. record like theres no mixing, mix like theres no mastering.

Jacob Collier does logic breakdowns for a lot of his music and they can be boring much like the Puth ones, however, he does them live and answers fan questions. I've found those to be quite helpful

Gabi, I listened to your music on Spotify. One thing I would say you need to work on, is allowing yourself to take up more space! Your vocals are very quiet compared to the loud background music. You make lovely music, your vocals are the bread and butter of your songs. So let’s hear YOU more 💕 Make your voice loud and proud babe!

He goes off by his hearing, it's ultra-developed. It's clear that he doesn't know much about the technical stuff. The problem is that it's super rare that someone has hearing abilities of his level, even among musicians. When he says that something sounds good to him, normal people don't even get it.

Once you get to a point where music production tips start to sound like "things you already know", it's usually a sign to stop consuming tutorials and just make music. There are always things to learn and techniques to add to your arsenal - but it gets to a point where you gotta trust your musical taste and your process. Twitch streams are the best though. There are a ton of VODs floating around RU-vid - personal favorites being from Virtual Riot and Kenny Beats. That track sounds really dope! Digging the 80's Japanese pop vibes.

ADHD and music productions are a hard mix. What's worked for me is forums- not just asking questions, but getting involved in the community and explaining what I have reasonable mastery of to newer members. I find that when I'm at the edge of my music theory knowledge and someone asks for an explanation I go look it up with more urgency than if it's just for me. (That said, I'm overly motivated by getting approval!) I'm completely with you on understanding why things work. That's how I work best too. I've also been lucky to be on forums that have had a lot of pros on them. When you have several famous authors in your subject, including the guy who wrote the 'Dummies' books, great pros... we once had someone ask what key harmonica Charlie Musselwhite played on a particular track and Charlie answered. Oh, and a bit of advice... don't say you didn't buy the lessons to do a review! Obviously you did it to do a review... then you can write it off! :)

Andrew Huang's series on 4 producers shows how producing can be explained. Most of the artists he brings make a short and very understandable explanation of what they did and why. They prove it can be done, just need the right people and approach.

This also illustrates perfectly how underappreciated teaching tends to be. Some people assume that as a teacher, you just go and randomly start talking about something - and sure, that is how teaching looks like on those days when you are feeling super tired and don't have time to plan anything. But if you want to make teaching work, you need to really get to know your topic and target audience, and think over how to present things in the most palatable, engaging way. That can take anything from 30 minutes to several days (per class), depending on how ambitious you are. I have a huge respect for people who know how to create new inventions and products, be it technology, art, or anything else. But I agree with what others say: Just because you know how to do something, doesn't mean you can teach it well.

As someone who’s created a class, the one thing I’ve learned as a basic person is that it’s YOU HAVE TO CLARIFY WHO YOUR AUDIENCE IS. Otherwise NO one wins from the content you put out

I've been listening to Blanks for a few years now, and I love his videos where he shows his recording/producing process. Good to see him getting more attention lately :)

I bought the Andre Huang course for my girlfriend she really like it and I think the editing was way more concise and to the point. No weird computer fiddling. My girls complaint was that she had to learn ableton on her own. So next course will be Mary Spenders RKC ableton music producers course

I understand Charlie when he’s vocally sounding out what he’s thinking for each part. It’s hard to explain. But as a musician, it’s basically just hearing a whole arrangement in your head and using the tools you have available to put it into the world. Side note: I kinda hate how many interviews seemed so intent on talking about his perfect pitch as if it’s some insane superpower. You don’t need it to be a great musician.

I totally agree with you. If the whole course is just watching him do stuff without being able to ask questions then why even buy this poop? I can just hop on twitch and find really good producers and just ask them my doubts by donating like $3-$5. Also, shoutout to Blanks. I’ve learned so many things watching him make songs in such short and entertaining videos

I love your version of Plastic Love. It was so pretty! I literally listened to it on repeat.

So glad I watched this. Thank you so much! I agree RU-vid has some incredible teachers on there and they're famous for their teaching. Teaching and being an artist are two completely different things. Thank youxxxxx

“Why would I pay for this when I can get it for free on RU-vid” is the question I’ve been asking about universities for about a decade now

Paying nearly $300 for someone to show you what presets they use, while simultaneously saying they don't know how it works, is extremely insulting to any customers/students.

But according to Taylor Swift he should be bigger.

This video was fire! Good luck on the journey!! I hope you blow up in music! Seriously though, the video was funny, fun to watch, and overall just a well-polished video!

I can see how Charlie might have walked into this without realising it was a bad idea. He probably gets told a lot that he's a talented guy and that people want to watch how he does things and hear him talk about it a bit. He probably doesn't recognize that he's a bad teacher and if this company approached him first and told him what to do I can see why he might not realise it's not worth its money. If he's self taught too (idk if he is or not) maybe he has nothing to compare it to and doesn't realise that people need more than this. He doesn't seem like a bad guy but I think everyone can agree from his tik toks that he has a bit of an ego and probably thinks every sentence he utters and bit of clicking around people get to witness is golden.

The problem with a lot of these classes is that while these folks are very talented at their craft, they have little to no experience in actually teaching. And that’s not a bad thing in and of itself. It’s just like…learn to teach effectively or don’t do the class. I was offered the opportunity to teach songwriting at a summer camp, and get paid more than my normal amount as a counselor. I turned it down because I can’t explain to children how I write my songs. I’m not a good teacher, so I don’t teach. I can read children’s books aloud and I have fun older cousin energy, so I’m great as a counselor. I just can’t teach.

honestly didn't know you did music, pretty much watched your videos every now and then cause i find your videos insightful and entertaining. now that i know, followed you on spotify and yt :D

For the harmonies, the high pitch part should’ve been you singing it live instead of it being a background loop, but honestly I jammed with that small part you showed, it was sick. Greta video!

very excited about the fact that i am a certified gaslighting, gatekeeping, girlbossing, gabi belle sub

I took this class and never finished for this exact reason. I’m a music production teacher myself, I’m an advanced producer but a novice songwriter and the class was NOT good AT ALL explaining small details. And honestly sitting there watching him route sends and tweak compressors was completely useless because he never explains the WHY! I definitely regret taking this class, it didn’t help me much.

I was one of those who thought about signing up for the class, but didn't want to drop the money. After watching this, I'm glad I didn't. I'm self taught as well, especially from youtube. Thanks for taking one for the team.

best production teacher I ever had was a Tascam four track. It uses cassettes, but is essentially what bands used for years to make music we still listen to. The basic knowledge you gain learning how to make a decent sounding song on a more simple piece of analog equipment will make working with newer tech more intuitive and easier to understand. Still use it to make quick demos because set up is so easy

If someone wants a really good music production/songwriting class on Monthly, take Andrew Huang’s course. I learned so much! It’s really detailed for all aspects of production, including mixing and mastering. He’s also funny and engaging. The Pentatonix acapella course was really good too. Thanks for giving us the scoop on Puth’s class. 😁

You absolutely nailed it about needing to know the “why” when someone is teaching you something. That applies to so many tutorials, and the teachers who understand this are the best ones to learn from. I’m not a musician, but I’m always constantly learning new editing tricks and techniques. The folks on RU-vid who make tutorials about editing and explain in depth why they are doing what they are doing are so incredibly invaluable to me. I also echo your sentiments about how being self-taught and simply seeing a professional validate what you do even if you don’t learn something new from them can be super reassuring and make you realize that maybe you’re more knowledgeable than you thought. Cue that imposter syndrome haha

I'm reminded of Au5s track breakdowns that you can purchase. Just the Alien Weapon breakdown was so in depth and technical, and I appreciate that approach immensely. I've gotta go watch it again, honestly.

Omg the song you made sound so good !! I wanna hear the whole thing so badly 🙏🏽

You know, Ryan Tedder also offered songwriting classes in the same format. Given the nature of the classes, he decided to film an additional video on OneRepublic’s RU-vid channel where he would listen to the original songs his students wrote and give his feedback there. I feel like this could’ve been something Charlie could’ve done as well.

I actually really liked his course tbh, it’s absolutely not for beginners, but as a moderate level producer I found a lot of the tips he would mention occasionally to be super helpful, also the fact he gave away his vocal effect chain settings is literally priceless

This is so good thank you & your song sounds so good & your dog is perfect & looks like my old dog 💖

Simon Servida is an AMAZING rap/hip hop producer really really good at explaining his process and the "Why: definitely recommend if anyone's interested in the genera. Great video too!

I took Andrew Huang's class and had a rather different experience (mine was much better than yours I think), but I strongly resonate with the "Ad suggests you'll be working closely with famous artist but you actually won't be," as that is 100% what I experienced as well. I got a lot of great content from Andrew's course (far beyond what he covers on RU-vid), but I didn't have a single interaction with him (not even a comment on any of my assignments, which he did provide to a handful of students each week). I'm happy with my overall experience and it has taken me in a good direction with my music, but it's hard for me to recommend it, especially at the price.

Thanks so much for the shoutout Gabi!! I hope you still got something out of Charlie's class! Also: keep up the good work!! (your music and RU-vid!) ps. maple story player here!!

I agree with everything she says. I took Ryan Tedder’s course two years ago and it was the most horrible experience, I regret every dollar I spent, unfortunately. At the of the day, free RU-vid videos and just listening to your favorite productions/ mixes do the trick. Teaching yourself by yourself the hard way, I think, is the most effective way to get better results.

I took Ryan Tedder's monthly course when I was on the "beginner" side of music production, and he did a much better job walking people through the process and explaining what he was doing.

As a person who is LITERALLY in the same boat (I've been writing and singing music since I was about 10), I found this incredibly helpful - because I was curious about this class. Honestly, thank you for making this video! Also, unrelated, let's be friends! Would love to collab sometime :D

To be honest, most of the Monthly courses are less like a course and more like you're sitting on the studio couch while the instructor works. Which is COOL, but should definitely be marketed and priced more appropriately. Also, the fact that the sound for the course was a mono room mic is unacceptable for a professional audio course. Nothing but respect to Charlie, and I know Monthly courses may be helping some people, but I feel like having a mediator or host to help these producers and artists who don't specialize as teachers or content makers would really streamline the process, make it more understandable, a better value, etc.

Blanks is AMAZING!! Love that you recommended him! He's really fun, keeps the excess boring stuff to a minimum, and he really knows what he's talking about!

Would love to write / record horn parts for your jams! Loved the video! Thank you for sharing!

Can't wait to be a Gabi gatekeeper. "Yeah I was a member of her Patreon before she hit 1million subs. You're not even a real fan tbh."

I took this course as an ABSOLUTE BEGINNER and I did not finish it because I had no idea what was going on 90% of the time. He used a lot of keyboard shortcuts and Like you said just did things without explaining how or why.

I love seeing a video with twice as many views as a channel’s subs! I hope this means your channel is growing quickly!

The way you said "subscribe" and the subscribe button kinda shined was rlly cool ngl

One really good production tutorial for beginners IMO is Cavetown's " Music Production for Dummies" He explains things like how compression works and how each parameter works, eq, and many other tips. BLANKS is also really good and super fun to watch and can be pretty inspiring.

Me being a scuba dive instructor the first thing that I learned during my instructor course was that the students need to know why they need this information or this skill. It has to be valuable to them or they won't listen or forget it immediately. Objective: What is the lesson/skill/topic about Value: Why do you need this Main Points: Information short and/or easy to understand

I love your song Plastic Love, I didn't realize you wrote that for this class!

This just illustrates how many performers/artists are not teachers. It’s a rare combination to find a great performer who is teacher also. Thank you for your review ❤

The fact they are always using Pro Tools and tons of expensive plugins (which literally no beginner can afford) in like every paid production course pisses me off. I study audio engineering and I think certain pugins really are worth of buying (in my case Melodyne, some reverbs, Isotope RX and some virtual instruments) since there isn't always free alternative for everything, but in most cases stock plugins and free VSTs will do the job if you know what you're doing. An expensive emulation of some ancient tube compressor won't fix your shitty mix.

Fun Fact: Blanks had one of the first monthly classes, which I attended with a free DAW and now I'm at university doing music production, Blanks is the best teacher I've had I swear

I have spent all morning watching your vids, now I will subscribe because I am a musician and I agree with you on this and I love your personality!

Ive been producing for about 4 years now and the best resource for production ive found is kenny beats youtube and twitch videos and even dispite his limited genres he takes a lot of time to describe what plugins do and how to use them as well as a lot of creative advice

I’m going to clip gabi saying “yes daddy feed me” and email it to her one year from now with no context

I “did” this class a year ago too. I think I stopped after the 2nd class because there was no actual steps and instruction. You’re really just observing him.

5:44 loved this "OHHHH"

How is this the first time I’m finding this channel, great video! 😊

I do think it's worthwhile to mention that Andrew Huang's class was really different from this in a lot of great ways! Definitely not a magical class to take you to the pro level, but I found that it was broken down into a lot smaller pieces and went really in depth into writing and producing. I had a lot of fun with it!

This class has really helped me. I didn't get "taught" by him in the literal sense, but I have rewatched certain parts to see how he does things and used it in my own production. When he was doing the bass I watched it to figure out bass myself. I haven't done acoustic bass really until this and did a pretty decent job. I use this class to see how he does things, but more so to use it as a reference point. When I'm struggling with something I can go back ti the class and see how Charlie puth would do it to get some ideas. It's helped.

Your dog is so cute, also great video! :D

i was actually considering buying it myself so thank you for this and thank you for recommending blanks i haven’t checked him out yet but i rly want to get into music making and i have gotten nowhere yet 💕

"i thought of this melody half asleep" you know, this causes his entire discography to make a lot more sense

I’m a licensed teacher in two states & I love all of your points about the actual educational aspects of this course. I always chuckle when people say stuff like “those who can, do, and those who can’t, teach” because in education theory, being able to teach a concept is the highest form of understanding (meaning good teachers *really* know what they’re talking about). I am working on building my own online course now (based in my content area) and one of the things that sets my course apart from most online courses is that students will submit their work to *me* for individual feedback and suggestions. There is value in peer feedback sometimes, but like you mentioned: a lot of the times, it’s like the blind leading the blind. (Peer review and suggestions are most beneficial when all students have mastered at least the same level of understanding of a concept or concepts. Otherwise you run the risk of someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about giving bad advice to a peer who may have been close to mastering the concept and stop making progress toward mastery as a result.) It’s the exact reason that I never assigned homework as a classroom teacher; I would rather a student can ask me, the “expert,” their questions and check their thinking in class rather than be stuck at home without resources and possibly be practicing concepts with wrong thought processes or information. Overall it seems like the course could have been improved very easily if they had just hired one or two producers to give feedback in addition to the peer feedback… and, ideally, had someone with an actual educational background help Charlie create the course content (they could ask what we in education call “probing questions,” which are essentially questions to understand someone’s thought process).

Gabi your videos are so great

this kinda inspires me to make tutorials for intermediate producers. i have a little knowledge but im not amazing, but i feel like i can explain what the things i do actually work. helping noobs get decent and decent people get understanding

I took the course in a shared group because it was expensive for me alone from india. It was kinda worth it. But i think youtube provide much lot content for free. But watching charlie sharing ideas and making music was satisfactory

I took the course too and I saw it more like being a fly on the wall to see Charlie Puth’s particular process. Kind of like the Masterclass videos. It’s not a game changing course at all but it does satisfy a certain curiosity of sitting in a room with someone who has had huge success in what they do and they show you how they do it. It is chock full of little spoken and unspoken nuggets of music creation wisdom. So basically, if you can’t or won’t afford the field trip to Charlie’s studio, don’t go and you will still be fine. If you got cash to burn and are really curious about how Charlie does what Charlie does, it’s not a bad experience to be had at all.

Well-spoken, talented, and hilarious. Keep doing your thing homie!

i like your videos because it gives me an indie vibe. I understand the editing process and it inspires me to make better content :) peace

My friend took the class and felt the same. It sucks watching people get scammed by it tbh. Also maple story wooooooo! Ur song is so good

Fantastic video that was super validating to the “am I doing any of this right?” doubts it seems like we all have. Thanks for making this :) also I LOVED the song!!

This is actually pretty interesting. I work as a developper and whenever I have to explaine to someone why i did certain things or why it works the way it works, its reaaaaaaaaaaally hard. sometimes u get it in your head but its so hard to put it out. teaching is a thing on its own and not everybody is skilled at it.

I love how you turned to your dog for the answer about the nuggets! lol!!!

This video was great. Super entertaining for it being just someone talking about a class for 20 mins. I love when I watch something that I initially expect not to finish but then before I know it, the video is ending, and I’m writing a paragraph long comment about it on RU-vid.

There’s a million music courses like this nowadays and they all seem to end up like this one I learned production by just doing stuff every wrong way until it sounded good😭

Really shocked to see you were into Foo Fighters. That’s awesome.

Girl, I thought I was Alone on this hahahaha hopefully I’ve been doing some other classes to help. Thank you for all the other tips. Subscribed right away.

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You are brilliant and I’m stoked I found your page. I’m excited to watch your growth. You are going to do amazing things!

Yo, I love your content! Just found you yesterday and you are very funny

Oh man, i love Plastic Love! I'll check out your version!

I really like this video. You hit the nail on the head around time mark 11:20. Just because someone is really good at what they do! Does not mean they can teach it to someone else. Most people do not know how to be the teacher.

Thank you for taking this class. Will watch the video soon but it’s nice to know tips.

Mastering the mix (has a really good book for finding the final polish my friend)

Your content is the best, i love it, thank you for making it

Thank you for making this video. I would have cried like a baby for buying this course. I obnoxiously received the advertisements for this course to the point I felt guilt for not buying the course! Thank you for this video!!!!!

I took the course and agree with everything you said. The course is great if your a major Puth fan and wanna watch him do his thing. But he gave so few details about his songs he makes in the course. Doesn’t explain chord progressions, just comes up with Melodie’s and harmonies instantly with very little explanation. I was able to figure these things out but I was teaching myself. Really unfortunate because I fell in love with the two songs he made in the course. As a fan I loved it. As a student I was disappointed

As a young, trying artist, it was nice to get a review on something to figure out whether or not I should consider it. Made it easier to make the decision to be self taught ( for music making platforms ) and take voice lessons

so glad your plastic love homage is on spotify cuz it HITITITITITTTTTTS!!!!!