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@ThirdDegreeWitchExplores
@ThirdDegreeWitchExplores 2 года назад
Your integrity is way way beyond reproach . Yes you crack jokes but that is all part of your sense of humour BUT your ethics towards safety are exemplary.
@robertescott1139
@robertescott1139 2 года назад
#clearprop
@thomas7770
@thomas7770 2 года назад
Concur, it’s nice that he takes responsibility for the sale. I would not have given those two yo-yos their money back. Sorry jack, fly your plane home.
@eldeguello9573
@eldeguello9573 2 года назад
@@thomas7770 I hear ya on that, if it was already in the bank that's a done dealio! I don't understand why he didn't put it on a tarmac to show em it was the sand causing most of the problems and lack of experience being the rest lol
@jeffmentzer9186
@jeffmentzer9186 2 года назад
@@eldeguello9573 He FLEW the plane to another airport that was paved. They, the Father didn't listen to a single thing that Jimmy warned him about. Obviously they have NO business owning a small plane. Sadly the Father has already negatively affected the young man's views and thoughts!!!
@samrodian919
@samrodian919 2 года назад
@@jeffmentzer9186 in other words “Captain747” is a fucking “eejut” as they say in Ireland lol
@jkingsley5671
@jkingsley5671 2 года назад
I think this experience perfectly illustrates the dangers of being “overqualified” as a pilot. Yes he was a 747 pilot but he wasn’t a GA pilot. Gotta know your equipment and conditions. His experience in big jets kept him from aborting in a little Sierra….just my opinion.He’s obviously a great pilot but there is no room for error as you put it Jimmy!
@orcuslightningmoor9845
@orcuslightningmoor9845 2 года назад
It has nothing to do with being over qualified its all about EGO. Happens everyday in the flying world.
@johnnunn8688
@johnnunn8688 2 года назад
He’s obviously NOT a great pilot; a great pilot is always willing to listen and learn.
@jkingsley5671
@jkingsley5671 2 года назад
You’re right, but I was making a point with “overqualified”. You don’t get to captain a 747 without a lot of flying “qualifications”. But the truth is he was under qualified to fly a GA plane. You’re absolutely right, his ego almost killed him! And his ego might keep him from learning what he needs to, as evidenced by his blaming Jimmy for the issue.
@VonSpinx
@VonSpinx 2 года назад
Sorry about that, the reply was supposed to go under the main comment section. Will move it.
@Nikita_Andreyev
@Nikita_Andreyev 2 года назад
He is not the pilot, He is airplane operator. It's a big differense!
@cg_justin_5327
@cg_justin_5327 2 года назад
You did the right thing Jimmy. It sucks the guy was mad, it sucks the deal was off, but at least he was alive to take his check back.
@markthegunplumber8376
@markthegunplumber8376 2 года назад
I spent many years as an FAA inspector for the Big Orange helicopter company. My stamp number is on thousands of parts flying and still in stock and will be flying someday. When you put your stamp on a part you better be sure it's GTG and measured out to print and had the proper certs with it. Because although I no longer work there I can still be held Civililly Liable for a part failure. I think about that everytime I see one flying.
@twistedyogert
@twistedyogert 2 года назад
Now I know why a small simple things like screws or lightbulbs are so expensive.
@faamecanic1970
@faamecanic1970 2 года назад
I’m with ya Mark. A&P here…and my name and stamp are on plenty of airliners still flying today.
@franksando635
@franksando635 2 года назад
Jimmy you know you can't tell a commercial pilot how to fly a small plane ..They know it all
@orcuslightningmoor9845
@orcuslightningmoor9845 2 года назад
I watched a video about a former F-16 jock who crashed his private lear jet. The pilot bragged about having 1,000 hours in the F-16 yet he had a very problematic flying career in the Chair Force. The pilot was never allowed to fly in a combat and he was booted by the chair force. But a filmed interview of him showed his EGO off perfectly. The Guy fly into a dangerous environment and he paid with his life all because of his EGO.
@JD96893
@JD96893 2 года назад
The funny part is like 80% of commercial airline crashes are pilot negligence. So even the best are prone to failure. A good pilot knows he isn't infallible.
@gmctech
@gmctech 2 года назад
Tell me about it!!!!! The flight club/school where I received my private pilot training/certification had a lot of commercial guys flying and renting planes for pleasure flights and some of the cowboy dangerous antics I witnessed by these guys were always a great topic of conversation at the club house. Never a shortage of "what not to do" training material for my CFI to point out. Some of these commercial cowboys were pretty hard on equipment and thought they owned the place. Definitely a small cluster of them were like this; as most were what you'd expect, careful, courteous and professional. But even the small cluster was enough to be alarming.
@7ACtailwheelav8tor
@7ACtailwheelav8tor 2 года назад
A good friend of mine, who was also a very experienced CFI/II with thousands of tailwheel hours, sold a Champ to a retired airline captain. Since the Champ was going to an airport with an asphalt runway, my friend took the buyer to our municipal airport for some landing practice...it took around 5 hours spread out over a few days. Every time my buddy came back to our grass strip, he told me he has never worked so hard trying to check someone out in a Champ. He swore the guy was trying to kill him!
@scrappyjackalope9558
@scrappyjackalope9558 2 года назад
In the end the guy was 100% correct though. So all the polite trash talk about the guy and the prop had a issue..
@cheapcargarage
@cheapcargarage 2 года назад
I wouldn’t hesitate to buy an airplane from you because of how thoroughly you go over them. Love what you’re doing! Stay safe.
@josephroberts6865
@josephroberts6865 2 года назад
Jimmy, your requirement to have the buyer ride with you on a flight is spot on. That way, the buyer can see and understand the peculiarities of the airplane, if any. Great video lesson for everyone.
@baddriving3966
@baddriving3966 Год назад
I think that was Jimmy's first mistake. I mean if I sell a car, I take them for a test ride and airplanes should be no different - the quirks are what can kill you if you are not made aware of them first.
@budspaulding7121
@budspaulding7121 2 года назад
I flew back from St. Augustine to our base in West central Florida with an airline pilot, in his airplane. I was flying, he was the passenger. Yeah, it was 4 pm, in August, we had storms all around, but managed to dodge them easily. I do remember how uncomfortable he was, and realized, they fly mostly above the nasty stuff.
@awesomecronk7183
@awesomecronk7183 2 года назад
We flew into Orlando last year about midday and boy was it turbulent! Super fun ride though!
@Everything_E-Bike
@Everything_E-Bike 2 года назад
If your not uncomfortable around big weather, you shouldn’t be flying. Doesn’t matter if your in a 152 or 747. Just remember that the commercial guys will likely have more light aircraft time than almost any private pilot. This guy knew the plane wasn’t right and it turns out he was correct.
@davidhtims
@davidhtims 2 года назад
Not All Airline pilots are that way. I had a friend who was and he also owned a mom n pop airport. His hobby was rebuilding old cubs. One of the better GA pilots and mechanics I ever knew.
@chrisrichardson4632
@chrisrichardson4632 2 года назад
Great story teller! Thanks for sharing that.
@randypurtteman1183
@randypurtteman1183 2 года назад
All I can say is where did you find this guy. For an experienced Commercial Captain it appears he was asleep during class at some phase during his training. I mean no.1: as a pilot he should know that in that sort of heat with that load (full tanks extra passengers) would impact performance and no.2: a less than expected performance at run up,should have caused him to abort. He should have never started down the runway in that case. You're right sounds like he was lucky that he didn't end up in the trees. It is also fortunate that your character is such that you refunded his money. You weren't required to do that.
@johnnunn8688
@johnnunn8688 2 года назад
Exactly, even his 747 can’t fly if it’s too hot/runway to short for the heat.
@Everything_E-Bike
@Everything_E-Bike 2 года назад
Except, the plane was faulty!! the prop was full of gunk, so he was right!
@kieranshanley7365
@kieranshanley7365 2 года назад
Surely that guy should have transition training with a qualified instructor if he isn’t checked out on that model. In the experimental world there are so many accidents where a new owner tries to fly the plane he’s just bought without ever have flying that particular aircraft before.
@nutritionperfection
@nutritionperfection 2 года назад
@@Everything_E-Bike The plane was faulty, he knew it and STILL TOOK OFF! That's part of the deal, if run up doesn't go as it is supposed to you abort for safety.
@thetechgenie7374
@thetechgenie7374 Год назад
@@Everything_E-Bike He may have well been correct and could be the aircraft faulty. Also way different going from a multi engine jet to a single engine prop plane? General rule is get to know it performance and do run up to get comfortable and see if any issues. Also fly along with the person first a couple times? If not satisfied and notice issue regardless if I believe aircraft faulty or my fault not risking it and flying period? He was way to arrogant and sure have put pride aside and listen and learn the aircraft?
@scottminshall6420
@scottminshall6420 2 года назад
Jimmy I have heard this same story more than once about "I'm an Airline pilot, I can fly anything" attitude. I have also seen the mangle aftermath of the same attitude off the end of a runway or up in the mountains. I don't care if you have a million flight hours, you always take advice of those who know the area, conditions, and aircraft type. You always go through the AFM to verify the performance of the aircraft and to figure out if you can go or not. As the old saying goes, "Flying is inherently dangerous" especially if you don't pay attention and are arrogant.
@delta747flyer
@delta747flyer 2 года назад
Sold an airplane - Beech Bonanza to a 350 hour private pilot years ago- he bragged to me how he can barrel roll it no problem. I declined the experience to participate in his demo. Six months later he was dead...augered in a flat spin in a Lancair and killed himself and his best friend. Fools abound and are NOT exclusive to their day job! Plenty plenty of GA aviators killed for a variety of reasons including pilot error. Strangely, NOBODY was killed in Jimmys story as told. There may be a reason you and I are not privy to as the story is told by Jimmy alone. The video evidence shown shows only a wise aborted take off attempt.....not a crash.
@baddriving3966
@baddriving3966 Год назад
There is only one thing more dangerous than flying an airplane, and that's a helicopter.
@markrobinson2196
@markrobinson2196 2 года назад
G'day Jimmy, I Love you're channel. I enjoy watching those videos you have talked about of ppl finding old automotive gems in barns that have been sitting for years and get them running as I love cars, but I also (more so) love aviation, and to watch you do with planes is so awesome. I am always waiting eagerly to see what you do next.
@therealjimmysworld
@therealjimmysworld 2 года назад
Thanks 👍
@akrickm1
@akrickm1 2 года назад
Jimmy your idea to do takeoffs and landings is a great idea may also make the new owner more confident.
@anonymous-nobody1
@anonymous-nobody1 2 года назад
Interesting story, I've heard similar stories before about pilots coming from big iron to little planes and having problems. Example I have a friend that flies an Embraer for one of the regional airlines and also flies my Aztec, if he hasn't flown the Aztec in a while he'll ask me to come along to get himself comfortable again in the airplane.
@jamesburns2232
@jamesburns2232 2 года назад
Piloting employs a lot of muscle memory. But, every airplane has some techniques that don't transfer 1:1 to other aircraft. For example, you might be able to fly a straight winged plane AOK, but then you fly a swept wing plane and OOPS! It's Saber Dance time!
@jonworthing7467
@jonworthing7467 2 года назад
You did everything by the book. The guy was not listening.
@trickedouttech321
@trickedouttech321 2 года назад
First of all. One you also turn a plane over to a new owner on a long paved runway. Only turn over on soft field if there is no other option. You should have taken the plane to a good Airport that was your responsibility if my point of view. Especially when you know that soft runway takes some know-how and practice to get good speed on. When I heard you explain the take-off procedure I knew right then this was going to go bad. For anyone selling a plane never release it to a new owner on a soft field or short runway ever. Unless you live in an area where there is no paved runway for 50-100 miles. That is just not a responsible thing to do. even when the new owner states he can fly that soft field, no problem. Nope never. Also, you should never sell a plane without flying the plane a few times with the new owner going over everything over and over. GA gets a bad name because people do not make good decisions on the buyer and seller side. Make sure you do what is best practice not what is in the rule book, and go above and beyond for safety.
@Ronaldl2350
@Ronaldl2350 2 года назад
Appreciate your integrity Jimmy.
@carlosurbizu323
@carlosurbizu323 2 года назад
Jimmy, I have taken off from that same field (Lakeland South) several times in peak summer with my Mooney 180 HP and never had a problem like I see in your actual footage, slow initial roll. Also you should be seeing redline RPM's (2700) with your brakes on or at the very least, once you hit 20 or 30 MPH with that constant speed prop. Sounds like you were not getting that from your description or maybe I'm wrong? Also check your tach against an optical or tach. Not unusual to see a mechanical tach off by a couple of hundred RPM's . If you think you are hitting 2700 RPM's when you are actually only making 2500, there would be a big difference in ground roll. Especially on a Hot Florida Humid Summer Day. Love your videos.
@christopherdoff-sotta4441
@christopherdoff-sotta4441 2 года назад
jimmy your a professional. you take the time to make sure everything is up to snuff... i commend you on keeping people safe and sound. i agree with alot of these comments that your doing everything possible to make sure all is safe.. keep the mustache... tom selleck is jealous.. lol
@bernardc2553
@bernardc2553 2 года назад
Jimmy some ppl just don't get it Had a Mil.Pilot (f14) 3 in seats in a 172 DA 8700 ! Nope no burners in this model..Know your limitations AND the Airplanes!!!
@davidgilpin5200
@davidgilpin5200 2 года назад
Thanks for the very heartfelt video, Jimmy. I have a feeling things will work themselves out.
@gabrielalexopoulos8097
@gabrielalexopoulos8097 2 года назад
I am glad an accident was prevented. Maybe the flying skills of the 747 pilot saved the initial rushed decision. We have a hero pilot in Greece that saved an Olympic 747 from crashing in Athens downtown, when an engine failled after take off. Again it was in August with a fully loaded aircraft. All planes big and small fly on the same priciples. Thank you for the videos Jimmy we learn a lot from them.
@ryanawilson8549
@ryanawilson8549 2 года назад
The take off and landing requirement is an excellent idea
@melvinmasters4656
@melvinmasters4656 2 года назад
Jimmy, good video. Pitfalls of the GA industry are numerous. 100% agree with your comparison between the Tesla and the Model T. Us older fellas remember when your car had a clutch, rotary phones were the norm and seat belts were optional. Going from 747 to an old GA prop plane is the same thing. I believe your honesty and sincerity is commendable. Thank you.
@WeBeGood06
@WeBeGood06 2 года назад
Jimmys World, "Note to self, take my forsale airplane to a paved runway to sell it."
@EdwinNoorlander
@EdwinNoorlander 2 года назад
And put some rockets under the plain..
@g60force
@g60force 2 года назад
@@EdwinNoorlander plain?
@EdwinNoorlander
@EdwinNoorlander 2 года назад
@@g60force 😂 (Slip of the keyboard ;-)
@svenmussnatouchets8399
@svenmussnatouchets8399 2 года назад
Reminds me of a flight my brother and I did out of Prescott, AZ (in an Archer, if memory serves). Hot day and high elevation. We ended up getting it in the air and flying to Sedona for lunch, but there was a moment when we were both saying “uhhhhh, those buildings at the end of the runway are starting to look big.”
@bradmugleston3285
@bradmugleston3285 2 года назад
1970 just got my private license and took , my dad flying - Piper Cub. My dad was a UAL Captain in DC-10s. The airport was a dirt strip anything but flat. To land you lined up with the runway and waited for the ground to come up to meet you. I was ready to give my old man lots of leeway. He flew it like that was the only thing he’d ever flown. His landing was one you’d cheer for on a DC-10. Surprised me for a second but then I realized who was flying it. MY DAD!
@jamesburns2232
@jamesburns2232 2 года назад
Your Dad is the Balm! 👨‍✈
@bradmugleston3285
@bradmugleston3285 2 года назад
@@jamesburns2232 yes he was. I could come home with a problem I was having, talking flying here but he was very well rounded, and he could describe what I was doing, go over possible fixes and talk me through them so the next time I was in the air I could do them almost perfect. He has been a NAVY flight instructor in Stearmans…
@scottmcd5885
@scottmcd5885 2 года назад
I worked as an inspector at a company that built wiring harnesses for Boeing jets. I still have a list of tail numbers that my inspection stamp was used on. Every time I see where one has gone down I start looking at the list... And I work for them 30 years ago. You might seem a little wild and crazy. Even a little bit silly on these videos but at the end of the day. You're still a pilot. The old addage of don't do the work if you wouldn't use it yourself comes to mind. You're not going to do anything with a plane that would make you afraid to take your own family up in it. Keep the videos coming I love watching them! "Can I get a clear prop!" And have a good day!
@myleslovegrove7856
@myleslovegrove7856 2 года назад
We had a Rockwell 114B that crashed shortly after we sold it due to a faulty fuel valve. Thankfully we hadnt undertaken any of the works ourselves but still felt dreadful! Then a few years later we sold a 210 turbo that also crashed on approach....!!!
@D989501L
@D989501L 2 года назад
Hi Jim, I fix scissor lifts and cherry pickers, I also carry out the ^ monthly inspections. Some customers really get annoyed when you fail a 135 ft cherry picker because something is not correct and could cause it to in the worst instance fall over. They don't think of the thousands of £'s or $'s spent on training and insurances to make sure when you certify something they know they are not going to get injured on it. Also, the same as you, no one will admit that they don't know how something works, even when you offer to show them, my friend has a fault code for that, he call it an ( ID 10 T ) Fault, I asked him what it stood for and then he wrote it close together ID10T ? Great Video, have you found out what was up with the Magnetoes yet ? Regards to you all Richard 🇬🇧
@TomPauls007
@TomPauls007 2 года назад
Really like your idea of going up with the new buyer just for the sake of familiarization. Not the same as a car.
@ianmacneill8951
@ianmacneill8951 2 года назад
For those that are discrediting the airline pilots ability please consider that he was primarily interested in buying to provide his young son with a platform to gain flying experience. If there are inherent performance problems with that aeroplane then rightly so to back out of the deal. I don’t think it should be going anywhere until the requisite RPM problem is fixed.
@zenadventurer69
@zenadventurer69 2 года назад
Just wanted to commend you and thank you for your honesty and integrity. I just wish more people - not just in this arena, but when selling a car or a baseball card - would bring this kind of thoughtful consideration to what they’re doing. Granted, you’re dealing with life and death situations, but there are many others who would not have been as accommodating. Good luck with the sale and thanks for keeping us posted.
@bobadams179
@bobadams179 2 года назад
I did flight training many years ago c.1986 when I was in my early 20s. At that time the owner of the flight school who had many years of training and many hours behind the yoke flew into a thunder storm killing himself and many members of his family. It occurred to me at that time if some one like him could make a mistake that cost him his life as well as many of the people he loved their lives, what are the chances of me doing something similar? I quit flying shortly after that. I still miss it. This is why I watch your channel. Just goes to show that someone with gobs of experience can still do something stupid. Keep up the good work Jimmy. Love your channel.
@robertcodack3034
@robertcodack3034 Год назад
Jimmy,my life is similar. The only difference is the fact that at 56 I have no one answer to.I’ve spent a a lot of money on crappy looking old aircraft.spent most of my life in a hanger restoring things that should never fly again,and then it does.most fulfilling. I watch your show on utube,you are amazing!Keep it going,!
@davidpoll220
@davidpoll220 2 года назад
I enjoy all your videos And I applaud your dedication to getting it right. And standing behind the brand
@kevinjohnson8813
@kevinjohnson8813 2 года назад
Excellent solution! Get the buyer in the plane, show them how to do it and that it works fine, then if they can't do it, walk away. Another great episode. Oh yeah, must add that after watching you for more than a year, my wife has finally gotten interested in Jimmy's World...HOWEVER...she say to say that the "pornstar mustache" needs to go...please. Now remember that's her not me so aim appropriately...fly safe.
@tuck6464
@tuck6464 2 года назад
Jimmy needs that ,for his day job.
@orcuslightningmoor9845
@orcuslightningmoor9845 2 года назад
My buddy was an A&P he put helacoil on a spark plug set on an old Cessna and the plane went down killing the two people aboard it. NTSB found the helicoil was part of the cause for the crash so my buddy got a $141K fine. Maybe I will tell you about his two other poor choices that played a role in a serious crash and loss of life. AS an A&P you must not take short cuts but you can do the best job possible and some stupid pilot will destroy your work in no time at all.
@NinjaKhaos74
@NinjaKhaos74 2 года назад
sounds like your buddy is in the wrong line of work.
@MotorsportsX
@MotorsportsX 2 года назад
guessing that he a) didnt follow procedures and b)didnt have insurance.
@orcuslightningmoor9845
@orcuslightningmoor9845 2 года назад
@@MotorsportsX He had insurance but he was an older generation that did things to get stuff done. He was an amazing pilot.
@davidl2048
@davidl2048 2 года назад
I understand your concerns. These aircraft are passing inspections. Sell your planes with a clear conscious. If the purchasers want perfect they would buy new with a warranty. Even then, no guarantees something won’t go wrong. Just my opinion.
@AvengerBB1
@AvengerBB1 2 года назад
Brand new does not mean good. I've learned that with cars and car parts. Just because it's fresh out of the factory doesn't mean it's guaranteed to work.
@jamesburns2232
@jamesburns2232 2 года назад
@@AvengerBB1 You sound like the KVI Auto Guy, Tom Turner. Saturday mornings on 570AM, Seattle radio. He fixes cars on the radio. You shake your radio more than 3 times; you are playing with it. He always says that new cars are just cars that haven't been owned before. 🤑🤢🤮😡🤬
@wolfparty4234
@wolfparty4234 2 года назад
I feel the same way Jimmy!! But, I’m not sure if I can get used to that fuzzy thang above your lip thou! 🤣🤣🤣🤦🏻‍♂️🙏🏻❤️
@larry3034
@larry3034 Год назад
Yeah! This is tough. Responsibility for lives can ruin you. Be careful JUMMY.
@singleproppilot
@singleproppilot Год назад
I did the majority of my Private Pilot training in an A23-19 Musketeer Sport, and always wanted to graduate to a Sierra. Life got in the way and now I have three kids, so if I ever get back to flying I need something much bigger.
@stuartbeard966
@stuartbeard966 2 года назад
That he took off is quite shocking to me, you don't expect a jet captain to be capable of such bravado/stupidity.
@charlesfoster141
@charlesfoster141 3 месяца назад
I sold and delivered my almost new Citabria 7ECA to a military jet fighter instructor pilot that had no clue how to fly a taildragger. He wanted me to check him out which I did. I had him follow through with several take offs and landings and then I had him do 10 of each without my inputting much assistance at all. He then flew me to a larger airport to make my flight connection home. He took forever to gain enough courage to depart. I always hoped that he made it home safely.
@joshwilliams9122
@joshwilliams9122 2 года назад
Great episode Jimmy! Hearing these real life stories A+.
@danandkimpage958
@danandkimpage958 2 года назад
I am a retired airline pilot and when I got back into GA I went and got an instructor to get me back up to speed. Airlines are not GA and GA is not the airline’s. Two different dogs and I have told a number of people that if you have to question something twice don’t do it. I bet that guy was Navy or Air Force and had never flown GA.
@erinchadbourne655
@erinchadbourne655 Год назад
Hi Jimmy! This is Erin, Echo Charlie, in tail number lingo. Anyway, your former Sierra N5294 fueled at our very nice KMVN FBO recently. Evidently, it hangared at our very nice FBO/airport for 4 months. We offer exceptional line and maintenance service, restaurant at terminal, we got hotel accommodations, and we are a Titan fuel supplier with the cheapest, high quality fuel rates around. If you go to Oshkosh or anywhere that takes you above Southern Illinois, please consider the Mt. Vernon Airport in Mt. Vernon, IL. I've followed you for over a year on your RU-vid channel. Keep up with what you are doing. I learn so much from watching your channel. Happy Landings, Echo "Sierra" Charlie.
@larrytalley117
@larrytalley117 2 года назад
There I was, on the golf course when my JIMMY’S WORLD alarm went off. My golf game (which is bad to start with) went totally off the rails in anticipation of getting to visit with my hero. But this time it was a sobering reminder that aviation requires a level of attention to detail, a familiarity with your equipment and humility when assessing your skills. What could possibly go wrong? A lot. I think we could all see the concern in your face and hear the fear for that couple in your words. You are my hero and I do hope that pilot watches this video.
@donaldharen
@donaldharen 2 года назад
The old saying holds true..... There are old pilots and bold pilots but there are no old, bold, pilots! The pride issues this 747 captain nearly caused a catastrophe! God bless you Jimmy for how you handled it! Truly I have gained respect for you from this.
@alanbrassard5927
@alanbrassard5927 2 года назад
First of all Jimmy, kudos for taking the higher ground. That being said I fly for one of the major US carriers and I came from GA and do own a small plane and in his defense I’ll share a story from when I was looking a few years back for a plane to train my sons in. Summer of 2017 both my kids had taken a few lessons and really wanted to learn, so I figured the best way was to get a small plane they can share and after awhile sell it, and hopefully all I have in it is gas, ins. and some maintenance. The three of us are tall (all over 6’6”) so only a few varieties of plane would work and through a work connection I’m was told of a fellow Captain who is selling a Socata Tampico for a good price and they are considered “roomy.” So in Aug. I hop down from my home to DFW to check out the mighty Tampico. Now again I built time flying jumpers, pipeline patrol, night freight, the regional turboprops, the nasty 19 seaters with no flight attendant. Lots of time in 182s, Beech-18, C-400 series Cessnas, C-310’s! Beech Baron, Duke, 99’s, piper Lance, Navajos. In short I think I know my stuff when it comes to GA, but I’ve never flown a Tampico much less on a 95* Dallas afternoon. Anyhow my fellow Capt picks me up, we go to some small Dallas field and jump in. My first thought, the only calm thought I would have in the next 30 min., was looking at the wing I recall thinking how small it looks and only powered by 150 tired, at TBO ponies, hmmm. We taxi out, run up, line up and launch! Well, started rolling. Underwhelming doesn’t do it justice, especially considering when your use to throwing the spurs to 170,000 lbs of thrust. Finally at some speed he tells me to rotate, ha! I nudge the stick back, nose comes up, stall horn blares, and that’s about it. The main wheels still on the ground! I will not bore you with the rest but we did fly for about 15 min. The only thing that I recall is the VSI never really moved. Came back in and said thanks but no. Flying home I pondered was I that out of touch or was that thing a death trap? In the end I realized it was a bit of both and our arrogance of not thinking about density alt. and we were both big men was certainly a factor. In the end I got a 182, bit of a fuel hog for the speed you get but it is roomy, and on the days that I fly it I find great comfort in its solid, leaving-the-planet now climb rate, not to mention the comfort of that great hulking wing…
@walterthorne4819
@walterthorne4819 2 года назад
Hello Jimmy, great video…as a marketing and sales guy …suggest think ahead in the sales function and try to head off problems before they kill your deal or kill your customer… You have an easy bird to sale….good luck and safe flying.
@davekimbler2308
@davekimbler2308 2 года назад
A lot of people give the tail light warranty, once the tail lights are out of sight that ends the warranty , but not you ! I like doing business with people like you ! 👍to you !
@brucethecurmudgeon8538
@brucethecurmudgeon8538 2 года назад
You are an honest and honorable man. When you buy a used aircraft it is sold AS IS WHERE IS. Giving them a refund was very kind. Not getting full power on a super high density day, with high heat and humidity is flying 101. They passed on a great airplane due to ego. I suppose his next one should be factory new.
@stewc625
@stewc625 2 года назад
Great video, Jimmy. I appreciate your candor about what happened here and the concern and care you're putting into the sale of this. In Flying Magazine, the contributing columnist Les Abend, who is a recently retired 777 American Airlines captain has written a lot about the vast differential between flying "big iron" and flying GA airplanes - as he puts it, in a "Big Iron" you're more of a systems technician and manager than a stick and rudder man, and the decision trees for EVERYTHING is different than for a small/light/piston GA plane. You're still flying, the radio calls, navigation, etc. are similar (but not same), although you never fly VFR in a big dog, but that's about it for similarity. Yup, sell that pup to an experienced GA pilot who can demonstrate they can get home in one piece.
@baddriving3966
@baddriving3966 Год назад
I don't know - VFR in a 777 could be a lot of fun ;)
@johnmorris7815
@johnmorris7815 2 года назад
You did the right thing dude, GA is a very different deal to heavy commercial stuff.
@georgew.5639
@georgew.5639 2 года назад
People just need to listen. Some people are incapable of listening and following instructions. I’m glad they didn’t kill themselves.
@jerryfarmer5989
@jerryfarmer5989 Год назад
One key thing about flying: Take offs are optional, landing is mandatory. I'd be happy with an old WW1 trainer with a great big rotary engine.
@timwendt6186
@timwendt6186 2 года назад
I like your comment at the end of the video about going with them at least three take offs and landings before you finalize a sale. It's definitely not like you're selling an old used car. Good luck on future sales Jimmy!
@rickey5353
@rickey5353 2 года назад
This airline captain made the huge mistake of ignoring the previous owner's experience. WTG, Jimmy.
@rickey5353
@rickey5353 2 года назад
....and he probably didn't remember how to say: "CAN I GET A CLEAR PROP:"
@tywheeler7131
@tywheeler7131 2 года назад
We had a chief pilot years ago the was furloughed and was flying small planes. He took controls on go around with full flaps and carb heat on. When we weren’t climbing I said “flaps,sir”. He then dumped the flaps and we sent back like a rock. It was a really crazy experience and a lesson in how these things go sideways .
@fredericklyon2006
@fredericklyon2006 Год назад
Definitely a good idea to do 2 or 3 pattern touch-and-go's with a new buyer so that the new owner understands how that particular aircraft handles. I'm glad to hear you found the issue with full run-up. I'm surprised that the run-up issue didn't make itself known when you flew the aircraft to meet the buyer. Keep the blus side up and the brown side down. Up...up...and away.
@fudogwhisperer3590
@fudogwhisperer3590 2 года назад
Sierra's are notoriously under powered. I flew one for a while, other than the lack of power, and taking precautions for its limitations an awesome airplane!
@JD96893
@JD96893 2 года назад
I'd argue that a lot of GA aircraft are under powered. Especially the vintage planes. I don't know a lot, but from what I've read wouldn't it be easier to get a fancy new more powerful, lighter engine with a cheaper overhaul and or longer tbo? Most of these old vintage engines cost around 35k to overhaul. I find it hard to believe that there isn't a drop in replacement available. Plus you'd get increased performance and fuel economy.
@MotorsportsX
@MotorsportsX 2 года назад
@@JD96893 trained in a 172 with a 180 o360.... flew with 3 pax a few months later in a 150hp 172... NO THANKS. ill take my 40 hp (powerflo +10)
@jimfisk4474
@jimfisk4474 2 года назад
This episode Jimmy is a lesson on complete thoroughness. It has saved many life's. Enjoy your humor and expertise. Keep your eyes out for the ET spaceships. Thanks Jimmy and catch you next time and God bless, bye now.
@davidklassen2805
@davidklassen2805 2 года назад
I’m from west Texas and I can relate! My plane won’t make full RPM on a hot afternoon. You simply just don’t fly on a hot afternoon due to density altitude and thunderstorms!
@robinstone564
@robinstone564 2 года назад
I have found through my years on this earth that selling anything that is as specialized as an airplane to someone in the "industry" is a recipe for a headache.
@RealMav1
@RealMav1 2 года назад
Jimmy! You are AWESOME!!! I am not a pilot but have flown many small and large RC airplanes and I have witnessed many RC pilots takeoff with engines that were not running properly. Usually followed by a dead stick landing or crash. The engine on those do not magically fix themselves either. I am so glad that this 747 pilot got back in one piece. Love your channel. Ric
@michaeltaylor520
@michaeltaylor520 Год назад
Well Jimmy, I have hundreds of hours in these planes. Commercial, instrument and flight instructor ratings in the 150 hp and 180 hp models. The airplane is overbuilt and underpowered. An additional 20 hp and retractable gear helps some but it is no "rocket ship". Never the less, they are great trainers as you pointed out. They are slow but still a good plane. You are absolutely right about density altitude and a soft field. I owned a Cardinal RG for several years and it suffered from the same problem, wouldn't climb when density altitude was high until the gear was up and speed was at best rate. But it was fast and could carry a good load. Your advice was spot on to the new buyers. The problem was they didn't listen.
@WApnj
@WApnj 2 года назад
Sludge inside the propeller? An explanation for us novices would be helpful. Thought is flew fine when you handled it... ?
@sbelo2836
@sbelo2836 2 года назад
With a history of same issue Jimmy did on same aircraft months ago, the presumptive agenda appears to deflect from the mechanical problem and may unfairly deflect responsibility to preserve status.
@lavernedofelmier6496
@lavernedofelmier6496 2 года назад
Your right Jimmy, these are old planes but age has nothing to do with the numbers not adding up. If in doubt keep it on the ground.
@davidneal1127
@davidneal1127 2 года назад
Dead on about the weather down South. It's a real challenge. Now that you have the plane back you might want to fix that loose trim piece on the passenger side rear.
@av8tor261
@av8tor261 2 года назад
I used to rent ultralights to anyone but commercial pilots unless I checked them out. You saved their lives at the grass/sand strip.
@JurgenHomola
@JurgenHomola 2 года назад
EXCELLENT take on this. And thanx for sharing your experience!
@martinwalsh4820
@martinwalsh4820 2 года назад
Thank you Jimmie your the man,sometimes people need training and they will not admit it,all you can do,you bet on the refund and the test rides
@CJLeTeff
@CJLeTeff 2 года назад
😳😳😳😳 Thank good they brought it back and you had the prop rechecked!
@airwolf12999
@airwolf12999 2 года назад
Growing up we had a grass strip on old dixie hwy in Auburndale/Lakeland border just off hwy 92, that sand is no joke..
@ronnydowdy7432
@ronnydowdy7432 2 года назад
You're absolutely right Jimmy
@marknesselhaus4376
@marknesselhaus4376 2 года назад
Back in the 80's when I was flying my ultralight in the Homestead Fl area I would witness, several times, where a pilot of HEAVY aircraft would just hop into a ultralight and think that they knew everything......... Wrong in so many ways, just like you said. Density Altitude? Nahhh I have plenty of power in my big birds....What could possibly go wrong with this tiny little thing .... ;-)
@johnmartin2464
@johnmartin2464 2 года назад
You did the right thing by giving him his money back. You are right to insist on the next buyer flying with you to get used to the plane. If you think he's not up to flying it, the deal is off. You could also insist he brings an A+P Tech to do an independent inspection of the plane and to review paperwork. It's not like selling a car, you are right to be concerned for his safety and you have to look after yourself as well. Great video.
@PaulFrancis111
@PaulFrancis111 Год назад
Jimmy, you are one of the few I would even consider buying from, you're very trustworthy
@vittoesmith1
@vittoesmith1 2 года назад
I live just north of the Zephyrhills airport and have noticed that the sky divers always jump first thing in the morning. Couldn't figure it out for a while but finally I figured they don't jump during the middle of the day because the air is so heavy, both for the plane and you will fall out of the sky a lot faster. Went to jump school in Okinawa in the early 60's. I know when we hit the ground it was a little fast. Did all my jumps in Japan so got a variant in weather. Cool weather is always better. Keep it up.
@asherbellamy1069
@asherbellamy1069 2 года назад
When your use to flying a huge airline plane you get use to the controls and get use to flying the plane when you get into a small piston plane the controls are set up differently It was nice of the pilot to give the plane to his sone sense he was thinking about buying it. I think he was frustrated flying it thats why. Everything was fine with the plane when the mechanics flushed out the system. Hopefully the next person that is interested in the plane goes well.
@Capt_Tarmac
@Capt_Tarmac 2 года назад
This was a great video and a step in the right direction. I watch every video you make and enjoy them very much. Your “schtick” has the air of a haphazard operation and apart of your routine. When it comes to aviation..only top notch professionalism is acceptable. Your channel is entertaining for sure but I’ve cringed on more than one occasion. This particular aircraft has had issues and still had one that thankfully has been rectified. You need all RPM and if your not getting it then you have to find out why. The aviation environment can be terribly unforgiving and we train personally for that eventuality and maintain our aircraft to that high standard. If I were you I’d use this as a learning event which turned out favorably and bring your game to another level. Make Jimmy Aircraft the envy of General Aviation and not a potential risk for someone somewhere down the road. I’ve been involved in aviation a long time with over 30,000 hours mostly in commercial jets but also small aircraft. Best wishes to you Jimmy..all the best.
@jamesburns2232
@jamesburns2232 2 года назад
One thing that keeps me awake at night is the time I taxied in off the active runway, taxied to parking, and before I could shut down the engines, they shut themselves down. Even though the fuel gauges still showed some, I had run out of fuel. After that, I always carried extra fuel for mom and the kids. FJB! 🤑🤢🤮😡🤬
@Capt_Tarmac
@Capt_Tarmac 2 года назад
@@jamesburns2232 oh wow….that’s a learning experience. As the saying goes, “l will never do that again”.
@chrisreevesC180
@chrisreevesC180 2 года назад
At the 2min mark, that blue Stinson in the background… I bought it in 2012, sold it a few years later. Pretty cool to see it again.
@mhoover
@mhoover 2 года назад
My dad used to build car trailers for his friends and he eventually quit doing it for liability reasons. You were right to take the plane back.
@lincolngrayson1013
@lincolngrayson1013 2 года назад
That's a great attitude to have for selling anything, you don't want anybody to get hurt by your product. Good job Jimmy!!!
@Jim-fe2xz
@Jim-fe2xz 2 года назад
I'm not a pilot but years ago used to love flying RC airplanes. The club I joined used to say never try to teach a commercial pilot to fly RC airplanes. They're convinced they know it all and can't make that transition from actually sitting in a pilots seat to having to do it all in their mind. When I'm trying to sell anything and I hear "I'm, a this, that or some other kind of expert" I just tell them "This item really isn't for you" and walk away. Way too old for drama or like you say the worry of someone getting hurt. Hope this new buyer works out!
@dalokz
@dalokz 2 года назад
Keep making videos like this and I'll gladly buy merch to support you. This is big time what RU-vid is about. Small guys sharing stories and experiences. No glitz needed.
@jimmbbo
@jimmbbo 2 года назад
One's signature in a logbook lives forever. I installed and ops checked a magneto on a Cessna that crashed years later due to being overloaded and taking off from a high altitude airport. Since my signature and A&P number were in the log, I had the pleasure of a 90-minute deposition with a rather unfriendly lawyer who was targeting people and organizations whose identities were in the logbook.
@Lion_McLionhead
@Lion_McLionhead 2 года назад
Can't imagine being successful enough at selling cars to fund a business refurbishing airplanes with that & then becoming successful selling airplanes. Some guys are just natural salesmen.
@preiter20
@preiter20 2 года назад
You are a good man Jimmy. Integrity is everything and you have it.
@madebylife
@madebylife 2 года назад
Sometimes learning to use older equipment where you have to listen to the sounds or particular music the equipment makes in order to adjust it is far different than flying a digital self-correcting machine. Hope to see you fly through Mobile again.
@Everything_E-Bike
@Everything_E-Bike 2 года назад
This guy seemed pretty tuned in though. He knew it wasn’t right and it turns out he was correct!
@Gentleman...Driver
@Gentleman...Driver 2 года назад
@@Everything_E-Bike Yeh, only thing is: When he knew that there was something wrong, why did he take off?
@Everything_E-Bike
@Everything_E-Bike 2 года назад
@@Gentleman...Driver Maybe because he’d been told repeatedly that there was nothing wrong with it? I guess there could be any number of factors in his decision making. We have no idea how much light aircraft experience the guy had so I doubt that the fact he was a 747 captain was the biggest risk factor in this story.
@billakers6082
@billakers6082 2 года назад
The three most dangerous things in aviation. A Doctor and a Lawyer in a V tail Bonanza. Two airline pilots in Cessna 150 and a flight attendant with a chipped tooth.
@wsmempson1
@wsmempson1 2 года назад
You really have my sympathies! The two groups of pilots who have done things in GA aircraft that have scared the bejesus out of me, have been high houred commercial pilots and instructors. The only useful lesson to be drawn from this is that simply because someone has a piece of paper to say that they are a fully qualified sky-god is no guarantee of their ability of fly a grass-roots GA aircraft.
@RipVanAllan1983
@RipVanAllan1983 2 года назад
Here's the lesson of the day. During training, there is IMSAFE= I for Illness, M for medication, S for stress, A for alcohol, F for fatigue, and E for emotions. So this airline pilot broke this checklist in the stress and emotions catagories, hes was stressed because he couldent fly the plane like Jimmy and probably played with his emotions. And he had a strong get there itis. All bad combinations to be flying. And it almost got the best of this man.
@TheTerrypcurtin
@TheTerrypcurtin 2 года назад
Same with me. 747 pilot tried to land 40 feet above the ground. It was scary for a minute. In my twin Travelair.
@g60force
@g60force 2 года назад
suddenly realize that it might be wise prior the selling or buying to do some Microsoft Flightsim VR in smaller airplanes to practice!
@BURNETTWEALTHGROUP
@BURNETTWEALTHGROUP 2 года назад
Jimmy you need to put that on one of your T-shirts, if you haven’t already (what could possibly go wrong) I love it when you say that
@houseoffolly
@houseoffolly 2 года назад
I have had enough of these sort of people and now send my for sale items to the auction. Advice-Make sure you read the auction contract. They will point where to sing and date it hoping you don't read it. They can be very one sided in the auction place's favor.
@theperl9663
@theperl9663 Год назад
Always a good vid by Jimmy, true 747 pilots are just button pushers, pure and simple.
@robstanton9215
@robstanton9215 2 года назад
You’re one of the good ones Jimmy!!! “The best pilots are the ones who are teachable. Humility is their greatest quality not their ability to control the airplane. A know-it-all is the best at killing himself and others around him!” Words straight from a TopGun instructor. Funny how that pretty much applies to EVERYTHING in life.
@martinwalsh4820
@martinwalsh4820 2 года назад
I dont fly but i understand air density,why in gods name would this guy take off and not understand air density,on a HOT day.
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