I want to end this terrible marriage. [Hello Counselor Sub:ENG,THA/2018.09.03] 

Chim- Chim I know right?? Makes me so mad 😡

Chim- Chim im more bothered about those pilates classes that cost 1200$😂🤭

he said he lost his job right before she got pregnant.

$1200 for Pilates. Is that code for something else? Give them both some time. Men are kept out of the birth recovery process. Women go to centers for a week or so after birth.

@@kristinesharp6286 go to centres for a week or so? I was out of the hospital in under 24hrs after having my son. I hate hospitals, no way were they making me stay a week.

Cos he doesn't understand how that feels. He thought that it was just a light injury 🙄

exactly That was the part that Shocked me the most, i cant believe he treated her that badly after she gave birth to his child...He is such a Heartless man smh

sherine he doesn’t need to understand how that feels to know it’s bad. If someone got stabbed would you brush it off as a minor injury? All he needs to do is know BASIC human anatomy to understand what a pelvic dislocation is. And I’m pretty sure he knows what a pelvis is.

Ik right wtf

I think he didn't care about her pain. Period. I get the feeling that he thinks well, SHE insisted on keeping the baby, so now she needs to suffer the consequences. He thinks it's her deserved punishment for her choice and he has nothing to do with it. He didn't care about her suffering.

Yeah, i agree with you. But he had a choice to leave her when she was pregnent, but he choose to marry her. It dose shows tht he wanted her in his life.

Hatake Kakashi Meh, he was probably pressured by society or family just like they’re being pressured to stay together

Hatake Kakashi no that’s not a choice. Leaving a pregnant lady and not taking responsibilities in Asia is never acceptable

I agree but she specifically said "at the point when you told him about being pregnant he wouldn't have married you if he didn't love you." Which has a slightly different meaning behind how you interpreted it. It's still not necessarily accurate. Lots of couples get married specifically because culturally and religiously they feel they have to if they have a child together.

Out of whaat..?

I don't understand why they make it seem like divorce is such a horrible option. Even when concerns come in where the husband is an alcoholic, gambler, or abuser, they tell the wife to just bear with it and that their child growing up without a dad is worse.

@@michelle2791 Because divorce in Korea is not good, Korean think it's a tragedy and people don't see them great after. They can Also not be remarried because they had a divorce before

I don't think the same... I think they just are in a love-hate relationship and passionate that's Why they seem not compatible

@@kellyrowland76 that is not true. Many koreans remarry after got divorced.

@@simsgazytech2013 I live in Korea and for new generation sure it's easier but When you are 30 or 40 and had a divorce it's difficult, there is a lot of conservative people in Korea

100% Dude thought he was a playa and got caught up. I feel bad for that poor baby.

@@lavinder11 exactly lol.

That's what I thinking after she said he spent money for his ex gf. Poor her, really..

I think she meant that when he was in a relationship with his ex he was generous and bought that girl stuff but now with her he isn't. Not that he bought his ex gifts while he was married to her now. Still, she should divorse him. She is gorgeous and he seems so unappriciative and arrogant.

Yes he was in the relationship with his ex when he bought it

Agree 100%

How the hell is this the kids fault??? Congratulations, putting the blame on the victims instead of the culprit

@@yeyosilver7067 Who is blaming the child for their recklessness? The culprits should have used condoms. Instead of dating for a few weeks and drifting apart, those two dumb immature knuckleheads brought a child into their loveless relationship.

adriana kirst it’s probably fake lol

adriana kirst I’m sure there’s more as well who knows if they got physical they obviously don’t work out but it suck that they have a baby so they must be cautious because their actions will determine the baby’s future

I sure hope it doesn't. Can't get much worse than "I will crash this car and kill us both" You do know that after the show ends they see a REAL counselor/therapist, footed by the production team/show. I hope you don't think these people just talk to a bunch of celebrities and then go home like their problems are solved right?

Where did you get that information from? I'm actually quite relieved to hear that, considering some of the shocking advice given!

I do hope so, but koreans don't take therapy seriously. I mean, the whole world doesn't but they don't believe in it. It's sad because they have a serious rate of suicide over there.

Totally agree

Yes, a lot of girls fall in love too quickly. And give up their life for the husband and baby. Half the people I knew in high school have kids. The majority separate after a few years together.

Vminhope can i know which country are you from?

@@vminhope3040 So true!!

Korea is totally different... It's not like women doesn't want to, but rather they are limited. Korea workforce consist of mostly males and females are expected to stay home and be a mother. In addition, women cannot climb the workforce ladder easily because of the conception that they will get married, have a child and quit eventually. Their pay is also lower, hence the stigma of divorce. Children without parents also get mocked and bullied in school.. Yet their abortion rate is one of the highest, the school clearly isn't doing anything to educate their students well.

I understood it as messages from before these two got together. Like, he paid for the classes from his girlfriend when they were a couple, but didn't delete those messages after they broke up.

Teri Dumas exactly

Whilst the two do need to divorce, especially by western standards, Korean culture often frowns down upon and shuns single mothers whether or not she is co-parenting with the father (and the father clearly is struggling with adapting to being a natural father/ fatherhood as a whole) so Hello Counselor would obviously take the viewpoint of Korean Society. Also, they perhaps want the child to have a typical masculine figure in the household as is expected of Koreans. The child is a huge factor in the divorce and if they were to try and work it out then the child wouldn't have to deal with the problems of seeing the father and mother living separately and being frowned upon/ bullied severely

Because divorce is looked down on in Korea.

Why would they divorce if they can make up? Westerns get divorced too easily tsk

@@XxXxXx-ef1rw right and have the kid grow up in a toxic household. Seriously, 'children' should be banned from having children.

If they can work throught their problems than everything is okay -.- like be mature and try, if it is not working than end it, and thanks god they want to try... like don't put words in my mount! -.- gosh I hate when people do that.

Yeah being vengeful in that mean kind of way towards your partner never works out, even if you feel better you've just made your relationship worse

yeah and they look like somebody who wants to control others instead of try to understand each other, they are literally the same person.

linger368 yes. She isn't innocent in this either. They both are to blame and they go tit for tat. He mentioned that when they went on the trip he asked if she was safe for sex and she said yes which clearly isn't true since she got pregnant in 3 months. A baby is a huge responsibility so I don't blame the guy for feeling apprehensive. Maybe he intended on proposing,being engaged for a while, then get married, be married for a while then have a baby. But to go from just dating to married with a kid in less than a year is a huge change. Both need to re-examine their expectations for each other.

Right.

This is the most beautiful top comment here

💯💯💯

No, her advice wasn't bad. Marriage is about compromise, give and take and putting someone else before yourself sometimes. It's not about a man worshipping his wife as she steps all over him. It's not about a woman living life only to please the husband. Sometimes people expect a perfect guy but everyone's human, and everyone screws up, and if that girl expected the immature dude to become Mr. Perfect suddenly and make no mistakes and mature up so suddenly just because she had a baby, it's a little unrealistic. What the woman in the yellow was saying was that if you expect to end up with someone who will check off all the boxes on your "ideal man" list, you'll probably end up alone or angry at everyone for falling short of it. Setting standards that are impossible for others to live up to or despising others who are trying but are not living up to the standards you set is a little unreasonable. It seems the wife got angry and bitter every time the husband did not do what she expected him to do or wanted him to do, rather than communicating with him and maturely explaining the situation. And the husband is just your typical man-child. Both the husband and wife seem to be impulsive and selfish and honestly if the woman wants a better man, she should be a better woman. So should the guy. The man just seems young and immature like a college/high school kid, and the woman seems to have a spiteful and bitter personality.

@@supposenot6790 i suprisely agree

@@ifeedonjinsdadjokes4135 why is her/his religion important again?

Stupid statement😑

결혼은 신중하게 이혼은 신속하게....

Actual Trash It's not the culture. It happened everywhere. It's more like nature.

Yeah but it could have been prevented if they didn't have sex

@@ms.chuisin7727 but in KR that part is really true. Ppl looks down on single mother (more if u r a divorced) but not men. Hate to say this but KR is a patriarchal country.

Moomoo it could’ve also been prevented with protection. I’ll be damned if I’m not going to satisfy my sexual appetite because I don’t want to be married. I’ve been having protected sex for 15 yrs & haven’t gotten pregnant.

yes

They r both immature as of now..no side want to be a bit considerate..they do revenge instead of talking and letting things out. This is among the reason why couple's communication is extremely important in marriage.

honestly i dont think it was wrong of him to at least ask her if hse was willing to get an abortion. if he really didnt want a child, thats a perfectly reasonable thing to ask. in fact it probably would have been an overall better decision to get the pregnancy termiated instead of forcing the child to grow up with completely shitty parents who dont understand the first thing about their responsibilities

Super Junior's Super Juniors yes, I get your point BUT it could’ve been nice if he explained it to her and make it clear why he wanted an abortion cause that would’ve caused a huge scar on the girl’s emotional and mental aspect since it’s her whose experiencing the pregnancy which could’ve lead to depression or something worse than that.

I agree with this

@@tiyas5378 yes the child may be stuck in a shitty situation, but i don't agree that it would have been better to terminate the child. you can't predict the child's future.

This couple mainly got married because of the child

@@ikrameamallah3725 yup and they survived until they died. They said they still together because of child, but they show they unhappiness to their children.

Kimag I really hope one day in the future this will be me and my future husband bc this marriage contract is for a long time and even though there is love we must set rules and priorities first to be able to understand and trust one another and not jump into something we are not prepared for🤞🤞🤞

As a divorced person,i cudnt agree more.I dated the same for person for 8 5 yrs before gettin married.But marriage is somethin else.Took us 6 yrs to realise its not workin and another 1 yr to get divorce.lots of feelings and emotions wasted.Lot of time wasted.

@@sadia2395 if it is time that made u realise all this then i wont think of it as time wasted

Maffy Cabanos it’s their job🤷‍♀️

I was thinking the same thing..funny tho...🤣

둘다 얼굴 외워놨다가 주변에 누가 만난다하면 뜯어말리면 될듯...

I disagree

They’re in South Korea so it rlly isn’t lol

@@catherinesmith5793 idc where they are this could easily turn out worse than it already is if they don't divorce right now their personalities just clash all the time and when they clash like that it could affect the baby so it really shouldn't matter what society thinks in this moment this could turn into an abusive relationship

I feel sorry for the kid

@@rosecarmellegermain1223 true

You can get divorced marriage isn't a prison sentence. If it's bad you can get out of it. My parents divorced when I was little and both moved on to better relationships. My mum remarried and had another child too. Most important thing is to not rush into getting married in the first place which is where my parents went wrong. Take time getting to know each other. Don't give up your independence either so that you can afford to stand on your own two feet should things turn bad and always maintain good communication as that's why many relationships fail.

Samara Gooch Some men cannot accept that and they kill the wife. Actually killing the wife might be better. There is news every now and then of men burns, throws acid at them and even chop off her hands and feets. Just becareful and don't be blinded by love when you see the warning sign. Also never help the man by making up excuses for them.

@@AramasG Nowadays, some of men has no balls. They can easily hurts their girlfriend, partner or wife even they ruined the family. Most on social media and news that I can see either killing your wife, your children and etc. That was so scary.

That sounds like my mom and her husband. They've been like this for 10 years. Everyone had told her to divorce. Even myself. She says she will be left with nothing if she divorces my stepdad because he works for a lawyer. She says as long as we ignore him in the house it's fine. I wanted them to divorce years ago because he was mentally and emotionally abusive to both of us.

Tal_Tal Kim the news about a men who threw acid at women not even husband and wife anymore, he threw it to his EX-wife. After that, he set his EX-parent in law's house in fire. His reason was because she ask for divorce, and he really holding grudge because of it. Somehow rn, you cannot easily get divorce, people could going nut. All we can do rn is to not rush a thing.

I think she was telling her to be a little considerate of him

They got married because they had to, not they wanted to. If she wasn't pregnant they might or might not be together today

@@gelaskopi89 Getting pregnant doesn't mean you have to get married. There are other options that may be more responsible than being trapped like in the situation now.

@@dooseobmey true that, but in Asia is most likely you "must" getting married because you getting pregnant

Bruh no wonder If u were forced to marry her because of her child ofc u would feel trapped

@@mintstudent9442 They should have at least used protection

Mystic-Juices it seems like those were old messages so he spent the money when they were dating but now won’t give his wife money

She is probably his true love.

that was when he was dating the ex gf not while he was with his now-wife

me too. but nobody seemed to care.

Yeah, that guy is shit. She deserves way better.

well she learned a very hard lesson. you cant trap a man with pregnancy and expect for him to fall in love

Lawanduuhhh !! Hmmm idk i dont wanna say she trapped him.. it takes two to make a baby. But right now they have to take a step back with what they want for themselves. They have to give their baby a great deal of consideration. The wife wants allll the love and baby-ing in the world and the hubby is insensitive. They both need to grow up. It not about them anymore.

@@itsme-ih2cx And also the guy

Yeahh.. I'm looking for this comment. They're not mature enough to have baby.

they should not married at first

SparkzMxzXZ but if he didnt love her then he wouldn't have gotten married to her?? Like he wouldve just left her.

@@by_2mj oh honey.

She obviously meant that he loves her because he married her knowing what it implies and all the responsibilities he'll have to take. He sacrificed a lot. That's what makes her say that he loves her, not for the simple fact that he married her.

Specially with a country that is so full on about getting married off. He could have easily married you out of sense of obligation.

I knooooow her whole commentary was poopoo

Basically.

serves them right. the innocent child should be put on adoption while they attempt killing each other

So don't make important decisions when you are stressed or depressed. Watch your words too when you are in such situations 😉

The girl seems mature to me.

Well maybe for some people. My parents knew each other for 3 months and they got married. Now they are married for 19 years turning this December.

Turning 20 this December*

@@toriella6238 Our parents used to live in different situation and used to have different expectations. They knew that marriage needs hard work and perseverance. Many youngsters nowadays just want romance and sex. Marriage is like a party. You may have fun, but you also needs to prepare food and music. You also need to clean the place afterwards.

I see that the guy is getting more hate here, but the girl told him it's ok to have unprotected sex... that's also fucked. He probably thought she was on the pill. This is sad. They got married because of the stigma in Korea. I feel bad for both of them

Lol, yea I agree with u. I fast forward the video. They got married because of a sense of responsibility without knowing each other well enough. They got married few months after they know each other. So it is not surprising they will still be in that arguing phase especially when there is more pressure and responsibility that they will have to take even after they got married and give birth to the baby.

What can they do about it?? He is not a boyfriend but a husband...if they both can't satisfy their expectations for each other then why can't they just understand and adjust and be contented with what they have...this will make the marriage workout😊

@@Gayathri267 yeah but that doesn't mean if my husband is abusive or ain't treating me well i should adjust with it

I think she is saying like unrealistic expectations? Like she wants him to chase and look for her but then doesnt tell him where she is and also doesnt respond to him. They both have to lower their pride and ask for what they want from each other. When a person is constantly let down because they have too many and too high of an expectation, it doesnt matter if the other person is trying or improving because it will just look like disappointment from the other side. I dont think she meant like abusive or extreme cases?

Adelina it doesn’t sound like she depends on him for money; he tells her to pay with her own money. I think it’s more the principle, that it’s unfair she’s the only one paying for baby necessities.

She got pregnant and abortion is somewhat look down upon in some countries

@@esthercromwell3414 I don't agree with abortion

@@Brit15102 don't worry about it, I myself don't quite agree with abortion either. Still even if she didn't get abortion she still can put the child for an adoption.

esther cromwell You're telling a mother to put her child up for adoption? What's the difference from aborting?

blueraineee there are people who think that abortion=killing so if they don't want to care for the child why not give them a chance to find a loving parents rather than stuck with people who would constantly think that the child is a mistake. Just an opinion.

Wow...u r a hero

I'm sorry you had to go through that.. Yeah sometimes you have to leave..

Im so sorry for that Jean, youre a strong woman

Jan-Michele P-R aw babe, im so sorry all that happened to you. you have to know that you are so strong and you’ll get a happy ending :)

U are such an inspiration. Thank you for being strong. I hope you wont give up and try ur bestt to raise ur kids

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I notice that too

He's sick he said it in the beginning

he’s having sore throat too

trash ambkansol lol 😆

Well they haven’t been doing a good job

50% for both in my opinion. The wife is there to get sympathy and put all the blame to him, it is a mistake when she spilled her behaviour in checking her husband past messages and transaction then compared it to her life now smh.. they both hot tempered, immature, selfish and clearly put rings for the baby incident

It always amazes me how people don't take a morning after pill if they want to go raw. And I think the percentages are flipped. She seems to be the less mature and manipulative of the two. Having a baby didn't make sense economically and they weren't even far in to their relation. Abortion would have been the better option. But since we heard everything from her point of view we are bound to be slightly biased to her.

Arnimal Kaul Yeah, personally i oppose abortion. It is a baby accident for them so they should take responsibility for their mistake, raise or at least support the baby financially. Eventhough they're still immature parents that will lead them getting into quarrel a lot, i hope this program can make them realize the best solution for them. Poor baby

志瑜杨 the husband was an ass but i think it’s more the wife’s fault. He clearly was reluctant to have a child in the first place, she should have raised it separately

ikram kami it's just plastic surgery hahah

No i think see might be cross eyed she might wear glasses....

Eye surgery and circle lens

Bea Waweru haha me too

SAME

tiffanie8000 I think she tell EVERYONE so that he can't bail.

Exactly !! its such a practical point of view. The argument of abortion being murder is beyond me. I dont know, too big an issue. But practically it makes sense , not to bring a life into the world that a person is incapable of being responsible for. Actually a person should do everything with in their grasp not to have babies before they are ready. It not fair all around. Its not fair to the grand parents who have to babysit , its not fair to the baby , its not fair to the spouse who doesnt want the baby in the first place. But its such a difficult situation to be in. I wish them well because i wouldn't know what to do either.

@@yasminabdu2569 I honestly don't understand why people make such a big deal when it comes to abortion and call the one who wants to get an abortion a murder or something like that. First of all, if someone chooses not to get an abortion then okay,good job, live your life how you want to, but there are also people who actually choose to get an abortion because of different circumstances and I think that people shouldn't go around and call them murderers because of this. Second of all, in the period when abortion is still available, there isn't even a human being formed inside of the organism, the "baby" it's just a couple of cells that haven't had any progression whatsoever and they can't be consudered a human being yet,so the one that gets an abortion doesn't "kill a baby" because there is no baby formed at that period

I agree. They had only been dating for 3 months, and he had recently left his job and was living on his father's goodwill. It is not unreasonable to consider abortion when you come up pregnant in those circumstances. I think he could have broached the subject more delicately, but considering it wasn't wrong.

this is a good and rational thought. i think shes being selfish and not caring on the opinion of the husband like he needs to agree on her of anything smh

Totally agree

Or protection lol

summer a It’s not reliable

@@leavemelonely1264 but it enables people who want to pleasure each other to do so. It's not 100% reliable but it works in most cases

@@leavemelonely1264 still better than nothing

Finally!!! Someone who has a high EQ in the comments section. Thank you. =]

@@allanallipin5013 it's IQ

This was such an intelligent reply! Too many comments here were way fatalistic and absolute and human relationships are never black and white, that’s what makes them so complex and beautiful and tragic. Hope these two somehow make it through and serve as inspiration that relationships take hard work to plow through the seemingly impossible.

No. There's no inherent value in keeping a marriage. Why stay together when they can find someone they're more compatible with? It's like eating a rotten fruit when there are thousands of fresh ones around you. "If you eat pills and drink lots of water, you won't die from the rotten fruit". NO! Just throw that fruit away and get another one!

@@wehavebiscuits any relationship has problems if you quit as soon as its hard you'll never be with anyone long term

They're hypocrites. They made abortion illegal to make their country look morally upright, but there are still over 300,000 abortions there every year. Just like how their government made porn illegal, but everyone still watches it, they made prostitution illegal to make themselves look good, but the majority of Korean men use prostitutes and there are brothels open everywhere. The police just turn a blind eye to it. Unfortunately it's all about appearances there, not how things actually are.

H. L. Yeah true. South Korea have high rate for abortion case. I just don't understand why they don't do precautions while doing sex.

H. L. i've noticed this as well. There are a lot of contradictions when it comes to Korean law and social norms. Not to say America is perfect either (we definitely aren't), but it's like Korea is a nation that normalizes pre-marital sex while simultaneously demonizing it. As you said, porn is technically illegal but it doesn't stop anyone from watching it. And people fuss over whether their significant other has had a lot of "experience" or not as if it were a bad thing, but then there are a huge number of 'love motels' (aka a place specifically for people who need a place to have sex).

Just because it's illegal doesn't mean people won't do it.

@@dayang8983 precautions can fail