I WROTE A PAPER ON THIS!! NEW SABATON REACTION - Father 

the manifest of the 93 was 93 german scientists who signed a declaration of their support for german actions in the war

For future reference, Sabaton loves people reacting. They actually encourage it, so there's no point in going the extra mile to cover your butt. It's already covered by the band.

On the topic, do check out Sabaton's 'Attack of the dead men ' After seeing this, it really fits in.

The reason behind Clara Haber’s suicide is still mainly unknown. Some believe that her being a pacifist, lead to her ending her life due to Fritz’s hand in the creation of chemical weapons used in WW1. (reportedly calling their first use in the war “perversions of ideals of science”) While others say that she actually didn’t have too much opposition to his work in the creation of Chemical Warfare. Blaming it more on her dwindling connection to Fritz during their marriage as well as always being overshadowed in the world of science (mainly by Fritz himself) leading her to commit suicide. Either way she was against the war AND was becoming detached to Fritz Haber. (Side note: The night of her suicide Fritz was celebrating the first “successful” use of Chemical Weapons in the war)

What sets Haber apart from others who saw their inventions used in warfare is Haber was totally fine with the military application of his discovery and even created a rule, Haber's Rule, which determined how concentrated the gas must be and how long it would need to be breathed in order to cause death. IIRC, he even justified it by comparing chemicals to previous evolution of warfare between a knight and a gun and now a gun to gas as well as stating that because gas doesn't mutilate it's better in comparison to bullets or something along those lines. On the other hand, it probably can't even be estimated how many lives he's saved.

Without fertilizer we could support about 3 billion people. The population is nearing 8 billion. 5 billion is a lot of people alive because of fertilizer. If that makes up for inventing a whole class of WMDs, I think we’ll be debating that until the end of time.

Given the history over this song, despite what he did for farming, people still condemn him. Personally, I see it as a number's game. He's allowed billions of people to live and survive through improving farming. Especially as most scientific inventions utilize human experimentation to an extent, even to this day. (It's more ethical and voluntary nowadays, but human experimentation still exists.) So it'd be invented and use one way or another. Sure, he invented chemical warfare, but his progress in agriculture has outweighed whatever crime he is "guilty" of, especially as we continue to use his method, even to this day. It's hypocritical to condemn the man for his inventions while we actively use them. To me, he did what he needed to for his country and personally instructed how to use the gas for the best effect, which also tells me that while he agreed to it's use, he didn't want the gas to torture the people it killed. Yes, it killed people, but he didn't want it to be a long-term suffering as they died. (Cause I imagine the gas could be mixed to prolong the suffering for many, many hours before death, if they truly wanted to do so) So it tells me that he still had his morality and ethical standpoint to an extent.

Didn’t Fritz Haber say “In peace for the world. In War for the fatherland.” Or something to that effect

Funny thing is that France was first with using gas on mass scale in WW1.. :P Sure, it was 'only' tear gas, but still...

Great reaction! Thank you! I used to wear such Polish gas mask with a hose during our defence classes over 35 years ago. My recommendation for this topic is SABATON - The Attack Of The Dead Men (Official Music Video). The day before releasing this song THIS appeared on RU-vid: Sabaton - The Attack of the Dead Men (Cover на русском | RADIO TAPOK) - It would be great to see you reacting to them in one video maybe 🙂 In the cover you see the fragments of «Атака мертвецов: Осовец» - Короткометражный фильм, which I strongly recommend to see, only 20 min.There are English subtitles there. Fact: Osowiec fortres is in today's Poland.

Yes he helped people but he was ignorant of his creation the day after his wife took her own life he went to the western front and showed the soldiers how to deploy the gas so he infact knew what was happening 1915 was canisters of bromine gas was used on Russian troops followed by Belgium & British troops being gassed also the argument he was innocent hardly I mean he created mustard gas and chlorine gas also then try to make chemical weapons to use as counter attack

haha good one! i was just thinking about ''what if a sabaton fan wrote a paper on this very subject word for word from the lyrics?'' don't tell me YOU did? what did the professor say? lol

Check out Sabaton History, they are gonna talk about he's Wife there :)

Why transparent video player? Nothing to see behind you anyway lol. Good reaction. You should check out Tommy Johansson's (lead guitar) channel. Will be a big suprise for you.

I like your props for (I assume) your presentation to go along with your paper. I had something I would have loved to bring as a prop to my presentation for my history capstone presentation, but since my paper was on British arms control initiatives in the late 19th century South African colonies, that would have meant bringing a trapdoor Springfield rifle (contemporary to the Martini-Henry rifle, and useful to demonstrate the technological innovation of the breech-loader), and guns + university is generally a no-no…well, I had to leave it behind.

I don't see any reactions to Tommy Johansson. He's the guitarist for Sabaton, but his solo work is amazing. He's a phenomenal vocalist and releases a new video almost every week. He covers everything from Disney to....well....Sabaton. His biggest hit on his channel so far is She's Gone. Worth a look. He also fronts his own band, Majestica, that you might want to check out.

If you liked this slow and chugging sound I think you would like "The price of a mile." by Sabaton. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LOrlRvBV59E.html It's got quite a similar sound to it, but the darkness is amplified tenfolds. Not a song that leaves you smiling...

Seeing as we are to many people on the planet, I'm leening towards sinner, if he hadn't invented it population had been kept down. As for the gas, who can say, did he just to his job without reflecting on morality?

I think if it would have been me and I had created the gas, I would say that I wish someone else had created it. The fact that he created it was not in it self bad, it was the fact that he seamed to have no remorse. The same can be said for the A-bombs. As horrible as they were, they actually saved Japanese lives because if America/the allies had been forced to invade, many more would have been killed. The study of the victims of radiation helped with other nuclear disasters. When the first nuke was dropped, one of the crew said "My God. What have we done?"

While I love the song the hole "moral issue" is kind of dumb for a lack of a better term. Yes the gas sucked but if you look at the statistics of the casualties the ones being killed by gas is hulariously small in compereson to how they make it sound in the song. Artillery killed most by far and on a distant 2nd place you got the machineguns.. Considering that and how much his invention did for food production this one is a no-brainer for me. But what do I know, to each their own!

Geneva Convention, yes. But, what they are talking about is Zyclon B and the death of millions of Jews. Haber himself being Jewish...

I personally don't think morality of actions can be balanced out with math. His creation of chemical warfare is a horrible use of science that can't be undone by numbers.