I talk about how people are saying Ice Spice either fell off or people not rocking with her music anymore for several reasons.. I talk about it in this video.
This part. Like she’s always hating on her FANS who are giving her constructive criticism as supporters who want her to do better and giving LEGENDS shade? How can the internet hype these kids up so much. I don’t get it!!!!!!!
That comparison ain’t even right cause nothings Ice has done can compare to Nicki’s bullying. I’m a fan of Nicki but let’s be honest she’s the biggest bully of em all at times when it’s not warranted. Keybwords: When it’s not. I’m not talking about the times when she’s defending herself. I’m talking about when Nicki goes on the attack
@@alkahinat4558 honestly 😮💨 I didn’t feel either way with her at first. People enjoyed her so I was happy for her and her audience. But bay-bey when I realized how immature she was in the texts and her response when people were asking to clarify I was done. She’s mentally a child.
When you don’t have talent it catches up to you. Ice Spice has made the same song over and over and over and over and over. Plus she be talking about poop too much.
I don’t agree. Ice Spice has some good bops under her belt. These last two singles just aren’t stacking up. I did enjoy Fisher. Wayne had bars like that. Idk why ppl made it seem like it was sooo foreign 😅
@sunnymane Wayne wasn't some manufactured label creation plucked from obscurity whose looks vastly outweighed his talent. That's an elementary comparison you made.
@@TheBamaPrinceable the comparison clearly flew over your head though. I said Wayne has definitely used bars related to being the ISH. He said he got 10 bathrooms he could ISH all day. He also said if your the ISH I’m sewerage! My POINT is saying you’re the ISH etc is actually very common place in Hip-hop. Everything you said was completely random lol.
Idk this comes off as a basic assessment that’s been passed around a lot lately. She typically made some cool bops. These last two singles don’t have the same flair. And bars related to being the ish is very common place in rap lol. Just look at Wayne! He said he had 10 bathrooms to ish all day 😂
@@sunnymaneyou need to stop comparing another rapper to someone who can't rap or do anything she's talentless she can't dance or even rap at all you're basically lost you have no idea what you're talking about
She didn’t have a strong foundation to begin with. Artists that have staying power tend to build up fanbases before they blow up. Ice blew up very early in her career bc of her🍑 if I’m being real. If she had a solid fan base, then the numbers would be consistent.
she shortcutted her way to success at her own detriment without continuing to put the work in. this should be a lesson that looks can get you in the door but it can’t keep you there. she has so many eyes on her now that have a perception of her and she will have to try extra hard to prove herself
@Spid4rsw3bzshe’s not gonna fall off the way Ice is because red NEVER claimed to be a rap princess/girly that’s shitting on bitches. She’s been making songs since mid 2010s. She’s a vibe people will listen to. Ice was marked as a new rising rap princess underneath Nicki’s wing.
Tbh she really didn’t talk bad about Nicki , ice spice just felt she was hating on her because she owned all the rights to her music and that’s all ice spice said tbh. Nicki fans just didn’t like the fact she spoke up & simply said something. I don’t, never have, nor never will like ice spice music tbh , however I do believe Ice Spice in that regards towards Nicki
@@babydollyup1002 that's what she said! She said that she got Nicki the Barbie soundtrack gig even tho the producers themselves came out said they asked Nicki personally to be on the soundtrack
Artists like Nicki, Latto, Megan, Doja Cat spent years perfecting their crafts and it shows through their work. They didn’t just rise to fame in a day. Ice spice is not serious with her music and quite frankly her music if just bad. It’s okay to just admit that her music just sucks
😂😂😂 latto doesn't have a fanbase that why her music does bad. Megan doesn't really have a fanbase either that's why her stuff isn't really doing well either.
@@Crypticzen1 Name one bar that was considered "fire" and doesn't consist of talking about poop, farts, sexualizing herself, twerking or anything ratchet
@@Crypticzen1 Megan the Stallion has a similar visual brand as ice spice and I've heard better lyricism and phrasing from Megan... Spice just ain't a talented artist like that until she proves otherwise.. you can like her, that's fine but her talent pool is very shallow. Like ALL she does is twerk, and say mildly corny one liners... Cardi B was even better on her debut and has consistently either improved or kept the same quality. Sometimes people are one hit wonders... She might have had maybe two or three hits.. but at this rate, she won't be around musically for much longer. Every woman I've named here has a big butt and has provocative lyrics, but only one of them is losing hype... You gotta start asking why.
She was never going to last long IMO..I think some ppl got carried away or expected more bc she got Taylor and Nicki cosigns but she's basically just this generations Iggy/Fetty Wap, etc. A couple of hits, a cute little moment and then everyone moves on.
if her album flops it’s gonna be very hard for her to keep collabing with big artists after because they’ll see the demand for her is not there. she should not be waiting for the album to try new sounds esp when she hasn’t been solidified as a serious act
Fr she should have either dropped the album at the very beginning of her career or just stayed a singles artist until people recognized her as a real artist.
She famous because she went through the "Undergound Casting Couch 🛋 " lol 😂😂😂😂 like 98% of the female artists today have done to get in position, and she loves to ride that casting couch 🛋 whether underground or above ground, she gone forever be on that casting couch 🛋
This is my pet peeve, especially cause Nicki said these girls gotta shake they ass to show sex appeal. Like girl come on now, value yourself more than that at least. I’m sick of seeing your ass checks lemme hear them lyrics
If you only saw good things about her, I feel like your social media is tilted. Ofc, there was a period when she was more popping, but people have ALWAYS talked shit about her raps.
I feel like bad comments were shadow banned. It was hard for my algorithm to show me anything negative about her for the longest time. And trust me, I tried to find something bc I felt like I was the only one sane
I mean she has always been a gimmick rapper. People simply are just growing up and she sounds the same in every song she makes. There was nothing ever really special about her other than she made good music amd she is Hella pretty.
not everything is about nicki. stop giving barbz all the credit. ice spice did a song with taylor and you don’t see people bringing up swifties. her music is just trash.
Fanbases are critical in the era streaming. Attention spans are short in the internet. So having a devoted fanbase like the barbz, beyhive, swifties is power!The Barbz as a collective pulled away their support and it really hurt her. Nicki has a sold out tour because of her Fanbase.
When ur fanbase is 95% the barb it's a bad idea of going against nicki same for latto bc she always showed love to nicki so the barb supported her and then when she had a drama with her she no one has big but for artists like cardi who is 2 most stream female rapper and megan has a number one album
Who is we? She’s doing the same hard trap most New York girls do. I’m not a fan but most girls today are kinda just… dusty. Wrestling outfits and twerking - 😅 her songs were never soft or light
If you talking bout her ass, you right - and if you talking baout the song ITSELF, you right - and if you talking bout her seeming PERSONA atm, YOU RIGHT
That was her, she should have never switched her flow she has fans who adore her. Also, Nicki and Enimine have fans who support them, buy their music twice, and stream every day. Her little fans alone are not going to help five times as much. People don't care as much they only care on the internet not about their pockets lol. They need to stop comparing them with the legends they are legends for a reason.
I honestly believed that ice spice would be the perfect prodigy to Nicki manji but hearing and seeing this kinda gives me a game and 50 cent vibe when he diss 50 in a way Ice spice has the universal love like Nicki despite not listening to her music
Yeah.. Anyone who has actually paid attention knows Nicki Minaj hasn't acknowledged that girls existence since before jingle ball when mid Spice was taking pics from side stage 🤣 and Nicki ignored her for akbar. The only reason she gave mid spice the time of day was because of Latto and wanting to be petty like usual.
Brand new here. I actually agree with you. That Fisher Song was kind of good and I actually liked her flow and lyrics in that one. Outside of Nicki's great big influence, its that song "Fisher' (which surprisingly people didn't speak much about) and "Pretty Girl" (which surprisingly I heard didn't do that well) that I thought were pretty good and legit. 'Deli' too was a good song with at least decent lyrics. I'm probably one of the only people in the world that has never ever heard "Munch," so I can't comment on that song. Even in her latest song she is kind of spitting. Sometimes though, it seems as if someone else is writing her features and parts of her songs because she isn't always that bad lyrically.
Ever since she dropped the Gimme a Light song all the thoughts about her music just went downhill. And after she was allegedly talking shit about Nicki, all the Barbz eventually stopped supporting her. As a matter of fact, 2/3 of her FANBASE was mainly the Barbz 😭 She didn’t become as famous as she is know until she dropped her song “Munch” and when she started collaborating with people. Then with that thing where people said she had a poop fetish cause she kept talking about pooping and farting, her lyrics aren’t the same anymore. At this point she should just become an Instagram model and call it a day 😭😭
@@KayNaliaurrr yeah, she also seemed very awkward at her concert when she was singing their collaboration song Karma. If you’ve seen the video, she looked like she trying to make up a dance move other than twerking, but couldn’t seem to think of one so she just started doing random movements while on stage 😂
Ice spice what is talking about the situation nicki I was trying to get her to sign her Masters to her and was getting mad that james was complimenting her the messages were giving her ranting to her friend but im kind of glad people are realizing that she's untalented
Her two latest songs sound like loud noise to me. Had to force myself to listen to them all the way through. Gimme A Light sounds like two sounds playing concurrently.
Nicki just like lil Kim and actual talented legends have longevity. These stripper rappers are here today and gone tomorrow. There's actual talent that's finally being recognized and getting their time to shine and it's time for this dark era of female rap to end
I Think It’s Just Everyone Not Listening As Much. I Do Music As Well, Not On A Huge Scale But I Had Over A Thousand Listeners Last Month & This Month It Dropped To Like 20 Or Something. I’m Like Yo.. What TF Happened. Also Spotify Been On Some BS Lately With How They Want Artists To Get Streams.
Ok, so hear me out. Do you think she may have gotten the kardasian curse from the little girl? After being on social media with north west, all this “she’s an industry plant” talk started circulating. I ask because I’m seeing this pattern with the young twitch guy too, the love is kinda fading 🤷🏾♀️
Her music isn’t all that, if the looks weren’t there no one would really notice her. Also very immature of her to make fun of fans giving her constructive criticism. She should’ve stayed in the past with that TikTok sound
Yeah Idk I think certain people don’t like that she collaborated with Queen Nicki. Others don’t like what Ice allegedly said about Nicki. Ice needs to just make another catchy lil bop. Something about her most recent singles don’t have that Ice Spice magic/flare/swayver
One thing that really hurt Ice was her Coachella performance. Those performances can elevate artists and launch album/tour rollouts. Instead she gave the same lazy performance that she always has given. It was a missed opportunity that could have turned the trajectory around.
My bf and I listened to Phat Butt when it dropped and I immediately was like, “damn, that’s Nicki’s flow” and my boyfriend who barely listens to rap besides my input/recommendations was surprised bc he heard it was different from Ice Spice’s regular flow.
but… nicki minaj copied lil kim b4? nobody wants to mention that?? why is it such a shocker when an artist takes inspiration from another? this literally is not new
okay but the thing we expected was nicki being like that, we also expected ice not to have the same beat in every song but there’s years for her to expand her own sound. she just started, no reason to compare her to anyone that’s been in the game and expiring might i add😂
When she got the popularity I actually like her. It was the type of music that was new for me to listen to but I also got tired of it when she kept doing the same thing. She has the potential but just won’t listen to any criticism. Either she’ll step her game up, put effort and change things up or will go down to being forgotten in the music industry
I hope artist see this a learn that the long game is the way to go if you aren’t in love with this and only want the money by all means take this route but just know you will fall off as quickly as you came up with
✨ *_When you don’t have talent it catches up to you. Ice Spice has made the same song over and over and over and over and over. Plus she be talking about poop too much_* ✨
I’ve never understood the hype around her from the start, I’m just sitting here like “it’s another rapper blowing up out of nowhere, we get that once every few months, what’s so special about her” and I still stand by that thought
The exposed text messages were the beginning of the end for Ice Spice. Her beefing with Latto and also her being a proud side chick is making her not look like a girl's girl. If you don't have alot of talent you have to rely on your looks and personality. She is pretty, but she doesn't seem to be kind.
She had massive push in music industry, but they push you till its time to get some money. The stream of push just run out and that why she is not hot anymore
This is the trend now. Super pop with the most current trends and just like it explodes quickly it ends quickly and everyone moves on to the next 15 min trend.