ICONIC CORPSE: The Exploitation of Julia Pastrana 

fungirl1234321 Beyonce could never

Spoke 4 languages, actually!!!

4 including her native languages which is even more impressive

XDranzer000 it's remarkable for our day and age. Most people didn't have the opportunity to learn like her.

4 actually her native language

Right?! And she was a beautiful woman.

Chicken Fajita93 she was. all of those drawings of her were exaggerated to make her look not human

@@LM-ix7pk Exactly!! I've videos of people with Julia's condition and they look like normal humans (with the exception of the amount of hair on their body). The drawings made her face look like an ape which I highly doubt was the case.

I completely agree- it was something she couldn’t control and she was exploited for it😢

@@meIatonin Unfortunately she didn't just suffer from hypertrichosis, but also had other diseases and conditioned that deformed her face - prominent brow, large ears & nose, protruding mouth - which is what caused her "gorrila-like" appearance more than just having excessive body & facial hair. Some of the drawings from her time further exaggerated these traits but if you look at some of the photos of her, others were pretty close.

Why does she deserve it

@@ElizzaYAYYYY Why *wouldn't* she deserve to be called a survivor, woman and mother?

@@helenanilsson5666 oh my I did a spelling mistake I am so sorry

@@helenanilsson5666 I ment to put why does she not deserve befor i though it said she dose not deserve to be called that

Yes thank you

KittyFAN13 i keep thinking about him 😭 his mother FINALLY got the respectful burial she deserved, but his remains were thrown in a field & left for animals to destroy. I wish someone had gone out to look for SOMETHING left of the little one, at least to keep with his mother’s body until she was buried.

he's dead! it dont mather anymore

@@ronswanson9324 OH !! You have just been cursed. You will soon start to see them. everywhere you will look,one will be standing. e satanis Spiritus Sancti

@@ronswanson9324 You have no right to tell Martin to shut up. Be kind to strangers on the internet, you're better than that.

Martin Rodrigue what language are you speaking

He only understood not wanting to have to work for a living.....

The worst!!!!

This is going to sound, absolutely horrible, but in a way he did......... He loved that she made him money, and he made him money for being herself, so in messed up way he loved her for her.

@Rusty Kinks A love doesn't have to be kind. Our society has taught us this time and time again. He loved her not as a wife, or a friend, but as an object. His love for her as this object he saw her as was brought on by the way she was. He loved this "object" for being itself, because it made him money of which he loved more. So yes, he loved the benefits, but as I see it, he could've easily found another woman, as he did, with the same condition to exploit, once he did, he could've given her up, but he didn't, because he loved the thought of her bringing in the money.

does anyone really love anyone for "who they are"? i certainly haven't seen it in my entire life

Very interesting! It would be neat if there were a recording of her singing. I'd like to hear!

@@U2kitteh HELL YEAH!

Well. How's that for a truly fascinating piece of information? That is really interesting, and nice to know. I love learning about obscure pieces of history. Thank you so much for sharing that insight!!

A small consolation I'm sure

She probably did sound amazing! And it's tragic because the people back then probably didn't give a shit about her singing and more about the way she looked 😭. Even doubling tragic what happened to her baby boy and not being buried with her, instead he was tossed in a field and eaten by critters 😖.

I was living for those signs throughout this video, I want to walk through life with a number of little Victorian calling cards with various statements that I can just flash at people instead of wasting my breath trying to explain sane, rational thought

@@flederfox "science is real, Darwin says so" could be one.

Lol yess

I had to watch it again. I missed it the first time. LOL!!! 😂😂😂 He deserved everything that came to him. POS! Knowing that she loved him & thought he loved her fills me with such sorrow... & ANGER. Can't forget anger. 💢😡💢

I didn’t even catch that until I read your comment! So perfect

Do you know if she kept journals, or if any of them survived to this day if she did? I'd like to read them too, if they exist!

@@sophiatalksmusic3588 I'm sure she probably had a few. But I'm assuming they were kept by the people who done her wrong.

This is an awful question, but why didn't she pluck? I know she shouldn't have had to, it was society's problem, but I wonder why she didn't remove some of it? I apologize that this comment isn't great: it's meant with respect.

@@noodlepoodlegirl ...... Do you realize how long that would take? Days. She was covered in hair.

@@noodlepoodlegirl it's like plucking a head full of hair one by one - not only would it take a very long time, it'd likely hurt a lot because yes she was covered in hair, all over her body.

Thanks for translating it!

I love that they recognize her as an artist.

Rohano 2.0 maybe you could go check out her grave and pay respects

Thanks for the translation. I was really hoping they would have added a tribute to her baby son too 💔

@@amyp6736 As Caitlin said in the video, the body of her son was sadly destroyed, so it wasn't buried with her :(

But who needs a child to snuggle up to when you have bags of money.

The worst

@@InvaderTak176 uhm...me? I married rich. I can assure you id rather snuggle my 2 year old boy lol. Hes funny af and tells jokes in his weird language. Moneys nice too But id rather have my bby

@@litbopeep5726 hun it was a joke not a way of life, youre reading to into it

Lit BoPeep W T F

If PT Barnum thinks you're an exploitative monster, you've really fucked up

The dolphins will do just fine long beyond humans. They probably talk sh!t about us.

@@alexhowlett3100 Agreed.

@@alexhowlett3100 Took the words right out of my mouth.

WOW if BARNUM of all people said it was sick and twisted, then you know it was sick and twisted.

Cow_woC Makes me hope haunting is real snd she's been haunting the HELL out of a bunch folks.

I got misty-eyed when they gave her a proper burial and people sent flowers. I can't imagine being treated like a non-human, freak of nature all your life.

But the part that made her, "her" left the day she died. So really it's really not poor her. As she was not there anymore. But it was good they properly honored her.

I think it’s funny people say she “was laid to rest...” she’s dead you know, her body has no feelings and is not aware of what’s going on.

It's a respect thing.

Sounds like Western medicine of today in my opinion. Here get the Rx filled, drink sugar filled juice and be lazy for a week.

Frank Carr I'm a Criminal/Clinical Psychiatrist I'm well aware of the advancements of Western medicine. What I wrote above is called 'sarcasm', try it sometime. I'll write your bad mood off to you having a hangover since last night was New Year's Eve Mr. Smarty Pants.

Weedus The vibrator was used by doctors for treating woman who were diagnosed with hysteria. It was uncanny how many doctors were needed to handle the influx of this illness once the women began treatment. Some poor women's hysteria cases were so sever that they were prescribed treatment 5 times a week. Some doctors even worked on weekends. When the treatment devices reduced in size and became portable, doctors could make house calls.

Ironic bc coke used to have actual cocaine in it I heard

@@veronicasuestarlite4080 lol bet you're one of those "muh big pharma is lying to you by giving your vaccines and controlling your mind with fluoride" type of freaks

sad! are you realy? of course they held a vigil ,so freakin important OMG ! he's also got a charity fund to his name, and all profits goes to the Jane Goodall research for the sign speaking gorrilas foundation.

@@leftitbythecurb8350 damn can't humans have emotions and empathy!?

@@leftitbythecurb8350 you are RU-vid karen

@@SanghamitraGautam Nah even a Karen has more empathy than that. We need a whole new class of subhuman for this.

@@iwuvsmybeanie there is, it's called a piece of shit

No, the yeeting of the baby was around nazi times. So even worse

@@MinatheRaichu didn’t she say it was in the 1970s, so after that?

@@koolkitty108 tru. That point goes to you

The body field thing happened around 1980.

When people dehumanize someone... Much like this case, they don't treat them with the respect of fellow human.

they weren't. just her

She got laid?? Thats gonna give me nightmares

E Estrada grow up.

The baby was thrown into a field and left to be eaten..So Julie was the only one buried..

@@Borghetto.Inc04 No, she did not get laid. They mean laid to rest which basically means she was buried in a grave.

It really is! ):

nionvox if only she had gone back to her village instead of performing :(

#theodorelentsucks

At various times in history, performing in shows was the only way for lower-class 'freaks' to make a living. Depending on their physical issues, some could be unable to do heavy labor and lacked the education for other employment (assuming anybody would hire them); some families literally couldn't afford to have non-working members aside from very young children; society shunned them, cutting off other support; they weren't sought as spouses -- that sort of thing. But a traveling show gave them employment, housing, and the company of people who wouldn't reject them. It sucked, but it was better than begging and hoping not to be robbed. For Julia, though, her decision to perform rather than go home was predetermined by her childhood as a glorified dancing monkey for a jerk who did not see her as human. People had controlled her almost from birth: she didn't have the strength to resist. Her intelligence and ability were wasted.

I agree to some extent, but occasionally, close knit villages can become used to people with differences and become strangely accepting. I doubt that would have happened in her home village, but if she'd had the financial capability (which I know she didn't) to immigrate somewhere she could be safer from superstition she may have been ostracized less. I fear that no matter where she was, she would have been taken advantage of and feared.

I looove karma!

We defintely got the good ending here

100% with you she had a medical condition that doesn’t make her any less human

We are all related to the apes, but it was more obvious, in her case.

Like the “elephant” man, who suffered neurofibromatosis type 1. He died in his sleep from a broken neck. His head was so heavy he couldn’t lay down because he’d die, he got fed up of sleeping sat up he decided to give sleeping laying down a try. He fell asleep and his neck snapped.

and racist

@@consentclub8431 eugenics is really horrible

This is when a crazy asylum with a mad scientist comes in handy.

While this is not an “authoritative” site, it mentions that he likely died of syphilis. It most likely wasn’t pleasant. circusnospin.blogspot.com/2011/11/strange-tale-of-julia-pastrana.html?m=1

if it happened in an asylum, it probably was. insanity ANd human rights violations!

@@IJustWantToUseMyName thank you

Well at that point in time asylums where one of the worse world so im sure he suffered

It’s so sad 🥺

Both: sucked

@@Acidfrog475 I don't know. When you have a disability that no one understands properly, wouldn't it be better to hide?

@@caffeinatedkatie4696 I definitely get that. My modern sensibilities are shining through. Doesn't mean what she did was humane, though.

@@Acidfrog475 yeah just sucks that she lived in a time that didn't understand her disability

Probably foot binding... Small feet were all the rage back then

@@biscuitgidoni2804 Do you have any evidence for foot binding in the 1850s and 1860s? I would be fascinated to know more.

@@jokiskywalker5417 oh yeah.. I have a collection of amputated feet from the 1800s

@@biscuitgidoni2804 So. You had no idea what you were talking about and just made something up. Good to know!

@@jokiskywalker5417 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-A8FPAAOaPdM.html

Next time I go to Mexico, I’d love to plan to visit her burial place, lay flowers, and pay my respects. I am glad she was finally granted the dignity in death that she was never afforded in life.

I'm glad she finally got to go home. It's so sad her son wasn't able to be buried with her. Her husband is roasting in a special kind of hell, as ugly on the outside now as he was on the inside, while Julia and her son are so beautiful and happy, as they dance together in the hereafter.

this is really wonderful, I love that the artist had the idea to make it an immersive play about her life, especially because SO MUCH of her life was based on her appearance. Immersive plays are fascinating to me and she is such a little known individual who deserves to BE known for her incredible strength and dignity, as well as her child. So awesome.

Lilli Jäger Also part of a deathtime.

Well you wouldn't feel anything... none the less, she should've been put to rest instead of this disgusting display of how humans are

Same. The more you learn about death the easier it is to cope with it

Same here, that surprised me.

Most European countries should face the fact that they likely have abused corpses and artificats of PoC in their possession that need to be returned.

Makes u wonder what else they arent telling u

XDranzer000 How’s she an SJW when it’s literally known that Europeans kept the body’s of POC in museums on display for years. You’re literally on a video proving it.

@XDranzer000 Found the asshole

powermezzo I know how you feel, I became obsessed with true crime, crime scene clean up and body farm type documentaries when I was 15 after the murder of my uncle. Knowing the inns and outs of death made it easier to process such a difficult and confusing time.

powermezzo EXACT same thing happened with me. It wasn’t until my grandfather passed

Glad to know I'm not alone! My students think I'm a weirdo. Haha!

HI there! may I ask you to explain to my why/how it helped you? I am actually afraid that what I know about death, decay ect.. will disturb me and make it harder for me to mourn when I eventually have to... and that's actually one of my biggest fears about death :/ so I would be curious to hear your stories guys if you don't mind :) (sorry I'm from france so my english is probably a little weird...)

I had a similar experience to other people in this thread. I'm sure everyone reacts differently, but I personally get more scared of what I don't know. There's a pose in yoga called "dead body pose", when I was mourning my grandfather I would use that time to think about his body. It gave me some time to contemplate something that I was sad about. You can't run away from feelings, you need to give yourself an appropriate and safe time to feel them.

AND THEN found another woman like his ex wife, married her, renamed her, and forced her to perform near the corpse of his ex wife and infant son. #theadorlentistheworst

I think she was rather beautiful too.

Agreed - she was actually really pretty! I’m glad she finally has a chance to rest ❤

Cassie Schroeder-Rhodes do you know what happened to the baby’s body? I’ve watched the full video but I might have missed it.

Rachel some horrible people threw his body in a field..and rodents ate it.😢

Cassie Schroeder-Rhodes That is sick....holy fuck...

Jay Y I am so sorry. I wish you well ❤ talk about her to the people you know and trust, it may help you feel better

Jay Y I'm sorry for your loss. May she rest in peace. 🌻

Oh- wth? I'm so glad you have OUR COMMUNITY of deathlings, who arnt afraid! I AM SO GLAD you viewed HER! It helps, doesn't it? Just remember- your family, friends, they will most likely NOT SPEAK about it, cause of they cant face it. So, TALK TO US! We are not afraid thanks to this channel. 😊

Awe, don't ya know...

For real

Her nonexistent son. As in, he didn’t exist anymore.

homeiswonderland right? Comments like this make me sick.

Some people apparently don't understand what "manipulation" is

So right! Considering what it’s like for women such as yourself in this time; you would be lucky to have a man abuse and take advantage of you.

idiot

He may have been the worse but Ringling Brothers would have kept her in a cage with the rest of the animals without a doubt. Pick your poison. You cannot base then on today's standards Snowflakes.

I don't know what you found funny there .

She has great delivery, and I appreciate bringing light-heartedness to the subject. BUT... I would like to see Caitlyn whip out her Midwestern mom voice more often.

I am intrigued. Please tell me more.

Seriously like it's so sad what many went through just because of their RACE let alone anomalies and disabilities. "Human zoos" proving one kind of person superior to others, what a fun family past time! :(

MistressMagick she was a tribal woman (the tribe did labial stretching), who scientists tried to use her vulval abnormality as proof that the Africans were not human as white people, even after death they removed her labia for study, as well as having her body on display, I'm not quite sure when she was properly buried.

She was not buried until 2002 after her death in 1815

I just made a comment on her. Look up Hottentot Venus. They made a movie about her life

So agree, most look like toddlers or boxed in faces, she some how look amazing!

Looking forward to the one video comment section that doesn't mention Caitlin's stunning, shining, soft, moveable hair ! 😈

Um hello did you not see Admiral Ackbar :P

Lena Pauline she's a cutie

Lena Pauline yessss there’s no other hair that would fit her better

Oh god, now that you remind me of that part, that actually makes sense 😔

No dont. My sons name is theodore lol

I like the name Theodore. Just call him Lent.

#TheodoreLentSucks

Brilliant! I'm so stealing for my inner non confrontational monologue lmao 😁👊🏽❤

#TheodoreLentisoverparty

hey there reference, it's me, ya boi

that sounds almost on-par with Scientology lmao only less cocaine and more "money givey"

Yaoi LovER it sounds nothing like scientology. At all.

"you have evil aliens in your blood..know what will get em out? singing a slavery contract and cash"

Erica Lauren i

@@chelsead6054 came here to say the same thing... just not as well.

Yeah that is something I can't comprehend. It's your own flesh and blood. Even though he lived only for 35 hours, it was still his son. I'm not a father yet, but I couldn't possibly imagine something so depraved, so abhorrent. Being able to do that to their family.

Agreed, I'd like to learn about that

That seems very interesting if she can find any information on it that is

Agreed

bump because yes, agreed

Great idea!

it is really sad. she has only been shown respect after almost 200 years of being dead, and after a decade of people fighting on her behalf. I just hope that somehow she knows that people are finally treating her as a human being. I know it's a lot to hope for but it only seems right

#TheodoreLentSucks

#iquit

#girlitsatrap

#theworst

#seeecretembalmingtechnique

Ew I know. The fact that her baby was thrown into a field and eaten... Just horrible. I wonder if the thieves did that so they wouldn’t be shown off anymore. Idk. Either way... Horrible.

Your local barber was the town surgeon in the 1800's!

CharmingLiberalScum back at ya bud x

Alysa Ronda I'm hoping that our beloved Death Momma will bless us with one more video one New Years Eve. 💀🎆 I don't want the Year of Content to end! 😢

Tamara Figge i agree they should treat her fairly. Although i would go on to say that even if not human we should completely respect all beings!

This is the 19th century....

Maybe is the fact that being a sideshow freak in Europe saved her life as opposed to living in Mexico in the 19th century.... Then again when it comes to being "outraged" context doesn't really matter....

I don't understand what you mean but have a nice day !

The story of the Elephant Man is more nuanced. Dr. Treves did not want to care for Joseph, feeling his condition too extreme for the hospital facilities. Joesph Merrick actually wanted to return to the Fairs where could make money. He knew his body would end up on display after his death and he may have believed that there was nothing left for him. Dr. Treves profited off the case of The Elephant Man, even writing memoirs; where could not even remember his name. He repeatedly refers to him as John, not Joesph. The bones of Joseph Merrick are still kept in the Royal British Hospital.

Turquoise Cheetah they’re not your “dear”

Turquoise Cheetah fuck off troll

@Fhjthnl Lol Iuyo given the fact that shes correct, Id say us women have every reason to.

fuck men lol

LadyKraken Same

Lynda Jaeger My guess? Nobody cared. And if dogs did not run of with them, they where thrown out.

Renee Parent so true

Renee Parent I think it's more respect. Showing respect to the dead.

YES!!! But we aren't that good as a whole at showing respect to our living so it only goes to say, our death are going to suffer the same fate.

I remember we had a paperback book in our family library with a title something like "Human Freaks and Oddities." Julia Pastrana was in it, as well as Eng & Chang, Violet & Daisy Hilton, Myrtle Corbin, The Tocci Brothers, Tom Thumb, and others. Although none of their lives would have been easy, I find it very sad that their uniqueness was perceived as something odd and macabre. Most spent their lives trying to fit in, when they were clearly born to stand out. Life has taught me not to judge a book by its cover. I would have missed out on some of the very best folks in my life if I had!

Same here; hope you feel better soon. Happy holidays, too!

Um... what's happened?

Julia Green This is perfect. So true!

Omg yes

How is watching porn any different?

@@camogrrl ??? consent, my man

@@camogrrl and the fact that people are watching porn to be aroused not gawk at someone they deem to be abnormal or a "freak"