Ideas and Society | Australia and China: A conversation with Paul Keating 

Good, keep remembering those stories of 18% interest rates and a seriously bad recession "we had to have".

Aahh, have you never heard of E.G. Whitlam?

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Keating wisely gave us PPS which even he admits was a huge failure. 18% interest rates and left us in recession. Do you call that wise ?

@@buildmotosykletist1987 But his take on the international chessboard is quite astute.... and it's obvious that he is NOT a WEF lackey of which so many of our governments have been infiltrated with.

@@lagringa7518 : His "take" is dictated by the CCP.

@@buildmotosykletist1987 Do you mean Prescribed Payment System? If so it was the best system for us contractors. The scrapping of it in favour of GST was a massive mistake. Many subbies had no money to pay tax after that stopped.

@@petersmith8134 : i'm a builder as you'd guess from my nic. Even Keating admitted PPS was a disaster.

Don't ever forget that Whitlam INITIATED THAT from 1971- 1975. Hawke continued it. Keating modernised it.

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you have to imagine they are being bribed. no one is that stupid.

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He says china, I hear communist china, no friend of democracy.

Hear! Hear!

As a fellow Chinese national and Australian resident, I'm sorry to say that we should never underestimate the danger posed by unthinking morons, Esp powerful ones like those in Canberra across both sides of the politics.

That's James Curant, right? He's a prominent and excellent political analyst. One of the few who can still think critically.

Lol. Nothing wrong with following a leader IF THAT LEADER is a true leader towards great global goals, like Whitlam and Keating (and Putin and Xi for that matter).

Malcolm Fraser had no real intellect. As a scion of privilege, he was sent to Oxford where he did a degree in Politics, Philosophy, and Economics. He was awarded third class honours - in my day that was regarded as a humiliating result. Certainly not the achievement of a person of even moderate intellect.

​@@hegemonersmith1048 Agreed, Fraser's most notable achievement was being the begining of the long run in dismantling Australia and it's people to sell to the US and China piece by piece. Additionally, OP's take on Rudd is utterly flawed. Rudd is essentially Keatings equivalent when it comes to the US, as opposed to Keatings expertise on China. Honestly, if they were able to work together each as Foreign delegates to their respective Nations of Expertise; They could work miricles in military descalation. Then build a proper cooperative approach to working toward a civil discussion with the numerous disputes China has with it's surrounding nations. Even potentially have US & China form a united delegation with other substantial world powers like the UK, the Saudi's, both South & North Korea (the latter with China's assistance) and Japan to make an appeal to Putin to stop this invasion. Having essentially the entire world politely asking him to stop the invasion and fix what has been done should work, as it's also somewhat of an ultimatum from the entire world to Putin and the Russian government. No nation, not Russia or China or even the US would be dumb enough to believe they could take on the entire world. When faced with such a proposition their own people would revolt if such a Nations leader decided to take on the whole world. It's insane that we are essentially at this point where we need to genuinely unite essentially the entire world to stop this sort of invasion. Worse still, we need to descalate two global super powers fromba potential war in order to stop another global super power's unlawful invasion of a smaller neighbouring nation. Lest we fall into another World War over two Super Powers attempting to reclaim a small part of their old regime's nation. Its utter insanity.

​@@soulsurvivor8293sorry I think it's naive to think Russia can be persuaded to stop the invasion unilaterally. It takes 2 palms to clap - you need to tell to the US to negotiate with Russia to stop the war. Russia has legitimate security concern that has to be addressed before it would end the war voluntarily. NATO expansion is a key issue here. Also there's no way China would do the US' bidding when the US is trying to stangle China technologically and economically. China is forced to work with Russia. No amount of diplomacy could change that. Real action (stop the containment of China) is what's missing. But asking the US to stop containing China is asking the leopard to change its spot.

AUSTRALIA LET'S GO!!!!!!!

Paul runs rings around any politicians we have, a brilliant man. They're "all tip and no iceberg" as PJK once said. ;)

More articulate for sure

Stone-age Mutant Whinging Liberals, Stone-age Mutant Whinging Liberals, Stone-age Mutant Whinging Liberals... ready to take bribes now... Liberal power.

yours hasn't.... (See what I did there, I also added the .... thing for ominous effect.)

@@jamesclarke2789 : Indeed 3 of my comments were deleted.

Um, never... but thanks for asking!

Completely unintelligible. 🤣

So the Tamil genocide is Australia’s fault? Don’t be silly.

The Sri Lanka+Tamil Tiger will be a political abyss few of us will know much or understand. This is due to our lack of knowledge of how both cultures are, Indian - Hindu vs Sri Lanka - Shingalist ( I hope my spelling is correct. )

This is 100% lie and full of propaganda from west. Your comment shows lacking of critical thinking and Chinese history. I don’t even know where to start. Vietnam war is retaliation as Vietnam started wars at boarders; Tibet has been part of China even before Qing dynasty; where are the dead bodies of Uygher genocide? Taiwan is part of China and it is in Taiwan government’s constitution too. And so on Man, like Roger said, go educate yourself

I actually wish China all the best and have the greatest respect for it. Unfortunately your response, yet again does China a disservice.

Disingenuous drivel

Why is your sudden interest on the Uyghurs now? What about the Muslims in Afghanistan, the Muslims in the Iraq War ( war created out of falsehood by the late Collins Power ) and more of other wars with Australia troops being included?

@@stevenliew2507 two wrongs do not make a right