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Former Eggman lackey Dr. Starline needs help to get into an Egg Base. And what better place to get help than a prison. #sonicthehedgehog #idwpublishing #badguys1

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@ChrisLShack1998
@ChrisLShack1998 3 года назад
So it's basically a heist story but with villains as the main characters. I like it.
@dad5draco
@dad5draco 3 года назад
It's like Sonic Universe #29 with Scourge.
@mozamactive2708
@mozamactive2708 3 года назад
Starline is four step closer to approve for his Senpai
@MarcMagma
@MarcMagma 3 года назад
Starline definitely took a great risk by releasing Zavok, especially since he doesn't have a way to keep the Zeti from betraying him. Considering that the others want something from Starline making it unlikely for them to betray him until he fullfills his end of their deals I wouldn't be suprised if Zavok ends up being the one to screw over Starline. Also, I find it interesting that they included more prisoners than just the first four villains in the prison. Up to now I was under the impression that criminals are rather uncommon in the IDW Sonic world. Therefore, I wouldn't have raised an eyebrow if the prison would have only held Mimic, the Skunk brothers and Zavok. Yet they decided to fill it with more prisoners, all of whom are completely new characters. So I wonder if they have plans using those other prisoners as well at some point in the future or at the very least wanted to open up the possibility for more bad guys who were already established criminals in this world before entering the story instead of coming out of nowhere.
@cyberprime9355
@cyberprime9355 3 года назад
To Starline's credit, he is not without his backup weapons and his unwavering loyalty. The doctor is definitely driven to show Eggman how to properly handle world domination. Noting the fact that Everhold prison looks like an acoustic guitar aside, Anyone who has seen superhero comics knows you can never keep supervillains in prison forever, especially under max security. The fact he successfully hypnotized the warden and swayed the big bads to do this was very impressive. Also it helps that strolling out of the burning prison like badasses to add to the "Boys are back in town" moment. Also, the Prison riot was well executed. Starline knows how to play to their desires and weaknesses to rally them to his cause. He may be the sub commander, be he also appears to act as a short term swiss army knife of the group. Granted, Starline has his own agenda, as does everyone else. It is only a matter of time before this fragile Legion of Doom scenario falls apart. But given Starline's charming facade and attention to detail, he may have thought of this ahead of time. TL DR; The issue did well on multiple fronts in regards to worldbuilding, premise setting, and adding more to the characters, Starline in particular. We know Eggman is going to get involved, and that may make or break the Alliance (My rings on the dissolution), but we should savor this little nugget of storytelling.
@kiddfaith4397
@kiddfaith4397 3 года назад
I noticed the guitar shape; much like the prison structure on Prison Island in Sonic X. A reference, perhaps?
@darrylh1971
@darrylh1971 3 года назад
@@kiddfaith4397 Or maybe someone was a fan of Sonic Underground, Sonic played the guitar in the Sonic Underground cartoon series.
@kiddfaith4397
@kiddfaith4397 3 года назад
@@darrylh1971 I see your point, but it’s a very vague reference if they wanted it to be recognized as such, as references are usually meant to be noticed as a reference. SU Sonic played a multi-neck electric guitar with a spiked, circular body shaped like his head. Even his first guitar before he met his siblings was an electric guitar, with an play-arrow shaped body and an off-centre, half-oval headstock; extremely different from the shape of IDW’s prison. Meanwhile, both Prison Island’s prison from SA2 and the prison in this issue are both shaped like acoustic guitars, with taller structures in the middle(sound hole) and the main entrance at the end of the fingerboard in the headstock. I think I’ll agree to disagree.
@J_Random0822
@J_Random0822 3 года назад
What the hell!? The prison DOES look like a guitar! That's hilarious!!
@tntsonic7482
@tntsonic7482 3 года назад
They should of called this series "The boys"
@Callmejasmine22
@Callmejasmine22 3 года назад
The boyz🤣
@alialbannay6707
@alialbannay6707 3 года назад
This story reminds me of scourge story in prison in sonic universe
@mileshk8083
@mileshk8083 3 года назад
Starline's plan is slowly taking form. Could the jailbreak be a little homage to Archie's Zone Jail and the Sonic Universe arc of Scourge and the Destructix?
@BlackFlash09
@BlackFlash09 3 года назад
You know, I thought the same thing. Kind of wish we got some cameos this time around...
@mileshk8083
@mileshk8083 3 года назад
@@BlackFlash09 Like that koala girl who was cellmate with Fiona?
@BlackFlash09
@BlackFlash09 3 года назад
@@mileshk8083 Ehh... not quite...
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
I mean, prison-break storylines are not uncommon in comic books; I mean, look at DC's Forever Evil or Marvel's Breakout! and Avengers: Standoff!
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
Starline: Oh yes, Lord Megatr-uh-I mean Zavok! I LIVE to serve you!!! Zavok: Save your prattling, Starscre-uh-line, and seek out the Autob-uh-I mean Doctor Eggman's location!!!
@theghost358
@theghost358 3 года назад
This issue was sooooo good
@Guanaco17
@Guanaco17 3 года назад
I Agree.
@sylver_sonic7726
@sylver_sonic7726 3 года назад
One of the best comics, I really enjoyed this one
@Benicthehedgehog
@Benicthehedgehog 3 года назад
I feel like that Starline setting them free is also so that we have more villains and not just Eggman in every issue of the comics. Plus its a good way to by time for what Eggmans next plan for world conquest to be thought up & put into action for the next arc or the next Saga for the comics. My only concern is that Zavok & the Deadly Six will be the true back up Villains and cause so much chaos that its gonna take time away from the other villains from getting a chance to shine. Plus I kinda want to see Mimic take on Sonic for a change, and for him to be able to understand Whisper's past like how Tangle did.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
Sonic wasn't the one who mocked him while being contained at the end of the Tangle & Whisper mini-series.
@Benicthehedgehog
@Benicthehedgehog 3 года назад
VideoGollumer yeah, but I would like to see Mimic try to take on Sonic since it be funny to see how mimic tries and fails to fool Sonic.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
@@Benicthehedgehog What? Are you expecting him to disguise as Amy? lol
@Benicthehedgehog
@Benicthehedgehog 3 года назад
VideoGollumer I was thinking more of Tails
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
@@Benicthehedgehog Wow! You are literally the first person, besides myself, that I've seen in comments sections of videos with these comics to prioritize Tails over Amy. Everyone else seems to do the opposite.
@blackrat2003
@blackrat2003 3 года назад
This honestly reminds me of that one Sonic Universe ark staring Scourge. It was one of the better ones in my opinion and I'm happy we get to see something similar here in the Idw series. Starline has become one of my favorite villains in the series as a whole now due to how well he's been written and I'm so glad he's becoming more of a serious threat. I wouldn't mind seeing him as the main villain of the series for a while.
@kunlesanders
@kunlesanders 3 года назад
"2 Unknown Mysterious Creations" inside their capsules.
@DaddlerTheDalek
@DaddlerTheDalek 3 года назад
I'm curious as well.
@KavinCatastrophe
@KavinCatastrophe 3 года назад
Hoping it Infinite. He was screwed over by eggman. Would make a great addition to the team
@kunlesanders
@kunlesanders 3 года назад
But Sonic and his friends killed Infinite at the end of Sonic Forces.
@KavinCatastrophe
@KavinCatastrophe 3 года назад
@@kunlesanders No Eggman absorbed Infinite and The Phantom Ruby into his Final Boss Machine. Technically you can say he dead but Eggman had a Lot of Clone Bodies of Infinite in the Beginning of Sonic Forces. Having Infinite Lives may still go with his Name.
@juanbisonosuero3650
@juanbisonosuero3650 3 года назад
10:12 whe all so got a stori of scorch
@karenbonds264
@karenbonds264 3 года назад
Alternate title for this series: *Starley Quinn*
@angryclouds4929
@angryclouds4929 3 года назад
Oh my god
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
No, Dr. Starscream! >:}
@bluefirewolf1991
@bluefirewolf1991 3 года назад
XD
@GreaterGrievobeast55
@GreaterGrievobeast55 3 года назад
StarSil the ChamberLINE
@moxikyutube6924
@moxikyutube6924 3 года назад
First: Starline is my new favorite villain, tied with Metal. Second: Has anyone noticed that the prison looks like a guitar?
@averymerrick
@averymerrick 3 года назад
Why release the bad guys from their cells? Give the main heroes 🦸‍♂️ a distraction. Impressive, Zavok.
@kiddfaith4397
@kiddfaith4397 3 года назад
Yup. Keep the heroes busy, and the guards won’t know they’re missing until the riot is over.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
I... have a feeling this prison riot won't become important in the main comics.
@kiddfaith4397
@kiddfaith4397 3 года назад
@@videogollumer Same. If anything it’ll be a short distraction
@kiddfaith4397
@kiddfaith4397 3 года назад
Something interesting I noticed; in Sonic X the prison building on Prison Island was shaped like a guitar, and was basically GUN’s highest security prison. I wonder if the prison here is a reference?
@aishutoon4553
@aishutoon4553 3 года назад
I think the prison was shaped like a guitar in sonic adventure 2, so the prison in the sonic x adaptation of the game reflects that. So yeah, it’s probably a reference.
@kiddfaith4397
@kiddfaith4397 3 года назад
@@aishutoon4553 I thought it was in SA2, but I wasn’t sure
@crystalfrost7730
@crystalfrost7730 3 года назад
Although I never talked about it in my short review of this issue, Bad Guys reminds me of the MLP Last villains that didn't want redemption. A powerful being, or person (If anyone knows what I am talking then you will know that Discord is the one that brought them together and impersonate a powerful being) bringing villains together and the three villains turn on him because of their own reasons. It's actually amazing when you think about. Maybe Ian took the idea from Season 9 but finding ways to make it more interesting.
@Mysticgamer
@Mysticgamer 3 года назад
Yeah, pretty sure Starline's going to end up like discord if he's not very careful.
@crystalfrost7730
@crystalfrost7730 3 года назад
@@Mysticgamer Unless Eggman decides to make better use of him.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
@@crystalfrost7730 Like what? As an Organic Battery? lol
@crystalfrost7730
@crystalfrost7730 3 года назад
@@videogollumer No. I have an idea for it.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
@@crystalfrost7730 I'm listening.
@thespeediestartist2074
@thespeediestartist2074 3 года назад
Really love starline. Hope we will see him in the 2021 game along with all the comic characters.
@ls_rus4666
@ls_rus4666 3 года назад
This song was sung When Archie was young
@thespeediestartist2074
@thespeediestartist2074 3 года назад
@@ls_rus4666 yeah, but the thing with archie comics was that the charecters been wrote and created by archie. And because the idw continuity is part of the main timeline, it's possible that we will see whisper, tangle, rouge, tumble, minic and starline in the games
@ls_rus4666
@ls_rus4666 3 года назад
@@thespeediestartist2074 the only result you had was a **cking mobile game event. And Sega has bigger problems to take care of. We barely have any games, that aren't anniversary or olympics.
@kntranced719
@kntranced719 3 года назад
@@ls_rus4666 He was just giving his opinion, chill
@ls_rus4666
@ls_rus4666 3 года назад
@@kntranced719 pardon
@mimik173
@mimik173 3 года назад
THEY ARE THE BOSSES!
@funkmastaC
@funkmastaC 3 года назад
9:00 cool guys don’t look at explosions🎶
@terrellrogers7645
@terrellrogers7645 3 года назад
Imagine if zombots took over the prison, all I could think of was season 3 of The Walking Dead 😂
@davidtellobenites7574
@davidtellobenites7574 3 года назад
Yeah so true!!
@DiamondBatToons
@DiamondBatToons 3 года назад
This sounds like an AWESOME series!! I know this is a weird comparison, but I IMMEDIATELY drew comparison to Marvel Comics and their Villian Team called the Sinister Six, a group of some of Spider-Man's WORST enemies! I really hope this series succeeds!
@tiagothenightfury2873
@tiagothenightfury2873 3 года назад
In 12:18 that's the exact thing I was thinking about 3 years ago.
@RealWorldGaming
@RealWorldGaming 3 года назад
4:28 that also looks like A guitar
@59rlmccormack
@59rlmccormack 3 года назад
Sonic villains are so awesome!
@mimik173
@mimik173 3 года назад
BIG BAD BOSSES
@seich-of-lacan-getter514
@seich-of-lacan-getter514 3 года назад
The next miniseries is probably gonna involve that puppet robot girl that recently showed up 3:40 the heel spers are like a platypus' venomous barbs, funny
@sonic23233
@sonic23233 3 года назад
I see that Rouge isn't the only bat
@superdewott3209
@superdewott3209 3 года назад
It's thanks to writer Ian Flynn for this Issue and Jack Lawrence iI began buying this issues. Plus fun artists like Tracey Yardley, cool expressions and poses by Adam Bryce Thomas, and amazing art and writing by Evan Stanley. A lot of people made these comics not only interesting, but fun to read.
@ledetbrothers9210
@ledetbrothers9210 3 года назад
This miniseries reminds me of one *scourge* of a story from the Archie Comics.
@lazlow8788
@lazlow8788 3 года назад
I just finished reading this one. I was pretty good. I'm curious what Starline's plans are.
@stg4theglitchog768
@stg4theglitchog768 3 года назад
You will take alot of time to review the Endgame saga.
@knuxuki1013
@knuxuki1013 3 года назад
Liking it so far
@sonpo6177
@sonpo6177 3 года назад
Imagine Starline becoming Syndrome from the Incredibles in the future issue.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
Like heroic one, or just a villain similar to him?
@sonpo6177
@sonpo6177 3 года назад
@@videogollumer A villain of similar motive, but targets both hero and villain.
@bluevelocity9166
@bluevelocity9166 3 года назад
Something I wonder in the prison is was Sonic the one who put most of the criminals in their? We don’t normal see him fight every day criminals on the streets just the average robot and super villain.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
Pah! Sonic didn't even bother to chase after and jail the most horrible person on both his world and another after defeating him! Why because Sonic's a free spirit who doesn't care for discipline! *facepalm* You know, Sonic, there are some real advantages to being Lawful Good! You should try it sometimes! -_-
@bluevelocity9166
@bluevelocity9166 3 года назад
VideoGollumer To be fair Eggman would more than likely find a way out of prison. He escaped back in Sonic X so I don’t think this would be any different and plus Sonic’s not THAT free spirited and most of the time he doesn’t get the chance to go after him.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
@@bluevelocity9166 He literally let Eggman get away on purpose this time! After Eggman almost took over the world then almost destroyed it, Sonic couldn't at least beat him up?!
@bluevelocity9166
@bluevelocity9166 3 года назад
@@videogollumer I guess since they’ve done this so many freaking times he just thinks why bother, he’ll just come back again and stop him again. Yes he did just let him of I don’t know why he did that, maybe Eggman was a safe distance from his perspective. But it’s not like they don’t try plan ahead of him or even find him. And yes Eggman did deserve a whopping for what he did.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
@@bluevelocity9166 The thing is that Eggman almost won, both times! Yes, the second time would have been at his own destruction; but the world would have been doomed because of him, had Silver not intervened. Basically, Eggman has gotten too dangerous, thus it would be wise to take some immediate preemptive action. Really, Eggman should be put to death for what he's done, seeing as he has no regret what so ever, but Sonic STILL thinks he might come around eventually. Still, will Eggman ever get killed off or be reformed in this comic? Over Sega's bankruptcy! Locking him up is the best they could be allowed to do with him. At the very least it would hinder Eggman; it would take him time to work out an escape plan.
@goldenboybenny7511
@goldenboybenny7511 3 года назад
I was done with idw but bad guys pulled me back in.
@jcmahrt5100
@jcmahrt5100 3 года назад
Question: if they are robots than why does it look like there is some sort of liquid in the containers? I think were going to get something like Shadow, since Starline is most likely aware that Dr. Eggman's grandfather created SHadow and that Eggman is capable of making an exact copy of Shadow, though whether they will be Shadow clones with different names or they are going to be completely different remains to be seen.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
That was an illusion created using the Phantom Ruby, and Infinite spawned them. Even then Shadow was pissed by its existence. If Starline somehow succeeds in duplicating Shadow, he's gonna be ULTIMATELY pissed!
@jcmahrt5100
@jcmahrt5100 3 года назад
@@videogollumer That wasn't what I meant. What I meant was some more Ultimate Lifeforms that are based off of some other animals besides Hedgehogs and could possibly have different personalities or may be a male and/or female. I am just stating some possibilities for I have no idea what are in those tanks but they are most likely organic and not technological. And who knows one of those tanks could be holding a recovering Infinite.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
@@jcmahrt5100 And that wasn't what I meant. You said "Eggman is capable of making an exact copy of Shadow"; that is incorrect. That copy of Shadow was created by Infinite using the now destroyed Phantom Ruby.
@jcmahrt5100
@jcmahrt5100 3 года назад
@@videogollumer Does Shadow Androids ring any bells or have you not seen the events of Whisper's backstory or done one of the early sonic games that have Shadow going against Android clones of himself?
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
@@jcmahrt5100 Androids are not clones! Androids are robots that have the appearance of a person! In this case, that person is Shadow; but they don't have his DNA or his Chaos Energy. They only act like him in a mechanical sense; so they are NOT EXACT copies.
@buckoz3353
@buckoz3353 3 года назад
I heard that Starline is supposed to be a platypus. It's about time we got a platypus sonic character. I mean come on we already have the other egg laying mammal (Echidna) so why not a platypus?
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
He's actually not the first platypus in the Sonic Franchise as a whole; we had D.B. Platypus in Sonic Boom. Sadly, like many supporting characters in Sonic Boom, he was an unlikeable d*che.
@buckoz3353
@buckoz3353 3 года назад
VideoGollumer yeah I’m actually aware of DB. I don’t really consider him like as legitimate tho Since he was only there for one episode but I know who you’re talking about. Hell even earlier than that from what I understand was actually A platypus character named “Bill” in the Archie comics. Who did actually also sided with egg man after leaving the freedom fighters For reasons I do not know. but I think it only lasted for like three issues. One thing I don’t really understand is it with every time a platypus character comes into the franchise why do they always have to be antagonists? I mean honestly I think it would be cool to see a platypus action hero. (Not only that but I feel many Phineas and Ferb fans are deeply upset with the sonic franchise if you know what I mean..🙃🙃😂😂😂) don't get me wrong though I am still grateful that we actually have a platypus sonic character who is actually a really good character Antagonist or not.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
@@buckoz3353 Correction, D.B. Platypus appeared in 4 episodes, with a major role in in two of them.
@buckoz3353
@buckoz3353 3 года назад
VideoGollumer hmmm I’ve not seen those other three. I’ve only seen the one where he tries to turn them into “role models.“
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
@@buckoz3353 That was a season one episode; the other three were in Season 2.
@ray-boi1351
@ray-boi1351 Год назад
Am I the only one who thinks the Everhold Prison looks like a guitar?
@mysteriousgirl9211
@mysteriousgirl9211 3 года назад
I can understand Starline saying he was discarded, but in what way was he being used by Eggman?
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
Starline lied to them; he doesn't actually believe Eggman was using him, even if he was.
@mysteriousgirl9211
@mysteriousgirl9211 3 года назад
@@videogollumer MBM said that Starline was 'used and discarded, which is true'. That's why I asked.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
@@mysteriousgirl9211 Well, he did! Now that I think about it, maybe Starline is aware. Remember Annual 2020? Eggman's "Toy room" showed him seeing a Zomboticized Starline action figure? At the very least, it hints that Eggman intended to dispose of him.
@mysteriousgirl9211
@mysteriousgirl9211 3 года назад
@@videogollumer I know that story. Starline was disturbed to see a toy version of himself, representing what would have been his fate if he had stayed with Eggman.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
​@@mysteriousgirl9211 Yes, well, what meant was that Starline seems to know that Eggman was just using him because of that, and that is probably some additional incentive for Starline's plans. Starline realizes that Eggman has no respect for his contribution; but Eggman is still the one who in inspired Starline to become a villain in the first place. As such, he's set out to accomplish the Sisyphean goal of winning Eggman's respect.
@antonissa8345
@antonissa8345 3 года назад
How many parts is this series?
@stg4theglitchog768
@stg4theglitchog768 3 года назад
3 i think.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 3 года назад
@@stg4theglitchog768 4, actually.
@stg4theglitchog768
@stg4theglitchog768 3 года назад
@@videogollumer Ah
@Grey8270
@Grey8270 2 года назад
Honeycomb
@johnflyne9104
@johnflyne9104 3 года назад
To be honest I don't really like the fact that mimic's only power is to shape shift.
@rynobehnke8289
@rynobehnke8289 3 года назад
So its time for another mini series the last one was the best thing of the IDW Sonic Comic up until now so lets see if this one stacks up. Before I continue are there just 3 problems I have with this Comic that all spawn from the same source than being the Metal Virus Arc. 1)Why is there even such a well operating Eggman base as Sigma? I mean's wasn't Eggman just complaining because the Zombots under Zeti control trashed most of his bases leading him to have to settle for some smaller base with just enough resources to build 1 more super robot. Never mind that with such baes still around is there really no excuse for Tails mopping about the lost of the cure when there are multiple easy to defend Eggman bases that were seemingly untouched by the Virus attack still around (even if this contradicts the time the Metal Virus arc said Angle island was the last save place and also open the questions why there ripped the aircraft apart at all when there could have just use the Warp Topaz to get to such an Base that the Zeti seemingly didn't care for and get all resources there could ever need while also sending Zavok on a wild Goose chase for them leading to him going for Angle Island far latter) 2)Why is the Prison in such a prestige state when not to long ago Zombie Robots destroyed everything. Does this mean this Prison was a save haven all along or what. And continuing with problems with the Prison why is it so good filled given that if it was attacked all prisoners' would have been lose all over the world as there were wondering around as Zombots which means it properly really wasn't attacked and despite having trained solders with non lethal weapons didn't help during the Metal Virus crisis at all. It also means that during the global crisis was Mimic actually transported from Tails Workshop to this Prison. 3)How exactly did Rough and Tumble get beaten at Barakat town? I mean when we saw the place the last time in issue 23 was it completely and utterly destroyed by the Zombots and as we see in this issue (as all as in the first annual issue)can the 2 easily take out a few Wispon users (in this issue are the ones that beat even trained rather than just enlisted civilians') Wow impressive how many problems this damn Metal Virus arc causes after it is already over Now for the issue in question. The beginning is really just a bunch of monologues to get the reader up to speed with Starlin's current goals and as general setup for the next few issues. Nothing really bad beside the already named. The Prison on the other hand has quite a few issues reaching form that non one told any of them apparently about Eggman's former underline that for all there know was responsible to turn Tinker back into Eggman and nearly killed Sonic and Silver ones, that the high security section apparently has no Cameras or personal at all to allow Starline to have a conservation without the need to fight a lot all the way to the already mentioned above. At this point I am not sure if all the problems the prison has are narrative conveniences to allow all Characters to show off there skills , have them meet in one place and to have Starlin recruit them or if Ian just subtly wants to tell us that like back in the Archie days the Government of the furry is just horribly brocken and can't get anything down right (if we add the fact that in the last few world revolving events apparently Amy and Knuckles needed to become leaders as no one else did am I really not sure if this really isn't the implication I am suppose to get here) Towards the Recruitment it self the Skunk brothers one is alright as there are mend to be stupid, I am not a fan of Mimic's (as him super early dropping the act of pretending to be the real warden after Starline arrived being not weird enough) as just being deleted out of Eggman's data bases to get off the huck with him while participating in something that will make him even angry (while Eggman also having memories and recoding's about him out side the Eggnet obviously and be it just Or- and Cubot) all because he is afraid of his vengeance doesn't really make a lot of sense. And Zavok well...how to say it... Okay I can't believe I am writing this but Zavok was properly the best written Character in here beside maybe Starlin. He immediately looked through Starlines tricks but decided he can turn things about and turn Starline from the manipulator into the manipulated one and so have him help to destroy him self while getting him closer to his revenge against Eggman and reuniting with his allice. He was shown as a real leader and commander testing out the abilities of his new Servants, causing Chaos which he loves while at the same time using it to get closer to his higher overarching goals and as already said looking right through the intents of those around him. He even shows a few there character traits here like thinking of Zeti as a superiors species or how lowly he things of Eggman and Starline for underestimating him or him caring enough about the other Zeti to want to reunite with them its almost like he is a Character now and not just a Bowser cut-out. The only bad parts about Zavok in here are that his apparently can't open the gates of the others from the inside of his cells while latter disabling Wispons on a much wider range (but this could also be just Zavok being causes and lying to insure he is let out first so that no one can just let him behind so this one is pretty easy to excuse and see as another positive) and the other one being that the Cell can even hold him given how strong he is suppose to be (especially given the feats Zommon has going for him who is suppose to be weaker than him) The only real complain I have left is that I don't like Starlines Hypnoray as this kind of powers usually end up as deus ex machinas and because I fear with the whole "your will would be to strong for it" line will lead to wirter(s) constantly making anyone but Sonic, Eggman and I guess Zavok weak-minded for it to work as the get out of jail free card even with Characters that are suppose to be able to resist this kinds of things (I especially fear for Shadow (because Sonic VS Shadow fights) and Cream (because despite her stubbornness in her convigtions and the fact that Chronicles just flat-out showed that she is immune to mind control will writer just say she is a child so its okay and than use her as a meet shield to allow Starline to escape) But otherwise its still better than 80% of the Metal Virus story so far, has some great character writing and a pretty interesting Permiss with so far already 2 lingering threats (Starlines super weapons and Zavok reuniting with the other ZetI) So a flawed but still pretty decent start into the arc.
@alimowla3204
@alimowla3204 3 года назад
1) well you see, this isn't actually an eggman base, it belongs to sigma from the megaman X series, and the warp topaz accidentally brought it here when sonic was using it, and eggman's computers mistook it as belonging to eggman, so the robots came in to guard it and spray-painted eggman's logo everywhere, that is _totally_ the real explanation and it's _perfectly_ reasonable, yup, definitely. 2) i mean, i wouldn't call it a safe haven exactly, it's a place chock full of criminals, not exactly the place where you'd put helpless innocent civilians, and if it _is_ chock full of prisoners, then there most likely wouldn't even be room for the civilians, unless you just wanna toss out the inmates to get assimilated by the zombots and thus give the zetis _more_ minions. well, if the prisoners _did_ escape the prison and got zombofied, they won't be _that_ hard to track down, i mean they're all wearing orange jumpsuits after all, in a franchise where all the male characters don't even wear pants no less, tracking them down shouldn't be _that_ difficult. "It also means that during the global crisis was Mimic actually transported from Tails Workshop to this Prison." i mean, it's possible eclipse got the prison around the same time as zavok, for all we know he might have been transported _immediately_ after getting caged, so before the zombot outbreak. 3) i mean, they're morons, i don't think you need to be a rocket scientist to trap and beat them up somehow. "The Prison on the other hand has quite a few issues reaching form that non one told any of them apparently about Eggman's former underline that for all there know was responsible to turn Tinker back into Eggman and nearly killed Sonic and Silver ones" i mean, how long has starline even been present in character? like, a month or two? not to mention starline wasn't really in the public eye enough to properly keep tabs on him, and the whole world was dealing with a robot zombie pandemic, there's more important things to take care of, so i don't really see a _major_ issue here personally. "that the high security section apparently has no Cameras or personal at all to allow Starline to have a conservation without the need to fight a lot all the way to the already mentioned above." i mean yea, that is dumb, but narratively? would the cameras being there change anything? i mean zavok's there, he could just disable them whenever he wants. "the Government of the furry is just horribly brocken and can't get anything down right" huh, so that's why G.U.N doesn't have any anthro recruits aside from shadow and rouge. well, as we established before, eggman has a short memory so he'll forget about mimic completely so long as he's not on eggman's shit list. "The only bad parts about Zavok in here are that his apparently can't open the gates of the others from the inside of his cells while latter disabling Wispons on a much wider range" why would zavok do that though? i highly doubt the other inmates would just stop and go "hmm, that zavok fellow sure is nice for releasing me, i should release him too." instead of just running away when they have the chance. "that the Cell can even hold him given how strong he is suppose to be" the cell bars and concrete around it are made of nintendium. i mean, cream is the only character other than charmy who _actually_ acts like a child instead of a 14/16 year old pretending to be 12 or 8, so i won't have too much of an issue with that, but yea, hopefully it won't be a dumb deus ex machina. also with this scene at 4:30 i'm instantly thinking. starline: "these credentials will do fine." warden: "no, they won't." starline: "these credentials _will_ do fine." warden: "no! they wont-a!" "Starlines super weapons" i wonder if one those super weapons is the hooded figure we see at the end of issue 33.
@rynobehnke8289
@rynobehnke8289 3 года назад
​@@alimowla3204 1) No not again the series is to young to die. Because every damn Time Megaman X makes a Crossover with just about anyone is cancellation just around the corner. 2)I mean most criminals aren't psychopaths but more so one timer murders, thief's or otherwise law breakers so most of them would properly be of no threat when the far bigger issue of the Zombie Apokalypse is right outside the door and as prisons are fortified anyway to prevent outbreaks would there also make them self great to defend them from outside threats as there wouldn't just be able to break in. Yes because the Criminals couldn't just take the jumpsuits off and because what ever law enforcement there would be able to cobble together wouldn't be completely overworked already by all the other stuff there have to do (just look how much the Chaotix a privat detective group is flooded with request right now just imagine what it would look like in a police office right now. Just a quick reminder on the timeline for you the same night Tangle visited Tails and Sonic after the infection of Sonic which happened before the Tangle and Wisper Mini series was the day Eggman attacked Windmill village, the day before Sunset City was attacked and 2 days before Flower village was attacked. The Tangle and Wisper Mini series it self takes place over 3 days it self already (the beginning, the fight at the old Eggman base and finally the day in which there beat Mimic. (and this doesn't even count the unknown amount of time between Tangles Visite to Tails to the start of her mini and the time from the capture of Mimic to the delivery to Tails) meaning by the time Mimic was at Tails Workshop did at least 2 villages and 1 major city fall. And it was properly more than just this as the Zombots were roaming around and as seen in the Radio story of the second Annual were taking down even more cities off screen. 3) I mean yes there make Cubot seam smart by comparison but still there were super strong and as seen in issue 23 was the town there attacked completely destroyed by the Zombot's with no Wispons in sight. I mean even without the Wispons did there give Sonic and Knuckles kind of a fight and here do there trash trained professionals like its nothing that has to count for something. I mean sure Starlin is pretty new but so are there Skunk Bros. and there didn't almost kill the Hero of the world and were apparently responsable for the return of Eggman. And information would perhaps be a point of it wasn't for the fact .that the entire leadership of the Restauration was informed about him As for the cameras I mean Mimic's whole stick would have been for nothing if the security team would have been able to tell anyone that the real Warden was knocked out by Starlin (also speech activation when one of there prisoners' can perfectly mimic voices and the other one has supreme power over electromagnetic fields not the best Idea but it was properly build before the 2 were known criminals so I let that one slight) Also this lack of monitoring allowed Starlin to just hypnotize his way past all guards so there would be that. When your government is so bad that I make GUN look good that you know you fucked up somewhere down the line. Didn't we see Orbot in the past make physical list or was that only back in Archie Sonic? No no no you misunderstood it was that Zavok him self said he can't that I found dumb unless its actually him lying. WHAT NINTENDIUM IN MY SONIC COMIC!??!! WHAT HERRASY IS THIS!!?!???!! My problem with that reasoning is more so that there are like 4 Characters in the series that are supposedly impossible to just mind control (Sonic, Shadow, Cream and Big) and at least for 3 of them do writers just love to ignore it (Big only gets away because of how little he is even used by official and fan fic writers alike) But yes I also hope it wouldn't be a Deus Ex Machina but my trust in Ian after the Zombie Virus arc took a real hit. A a Phantome Menace reference now that just shows that you are a man of Culture. Hard to say but personally do I thing its most likely not the case as these 2 stories are written by 2 different writers and I don't think the 2 planed that far ahead together.
@alimowla3204
@alimowla3204 3 года назад
@@rynobehnke8289 1) well good, this world isn't big enough for _two_ blue video game mascots!/s. 2) still, they're crowded, there probably won't be much room for the civilians, at least not all of them. "Yes because the Criminals couldn't just take the jumpsuits off" i'm pretty sure people will take notice of the anthros walking around without gloves and shoes, that alone could get you arrested for mobian indecent exposure. well, regardless, my point of "it's possible mimic got to the prison around the same time as zavok," is still viable. (also i can't believe i misnamed mimic eclipse from the archie comics). 3) "with no Wispons in sight." i mean, would _you_ keep your weapons in plain sight for any idiot or criminal to just keep up off the ground? they were probably in some kind of cache or safe for later use. "I mean even without the Wispons did there give Sonic and Knuckles kind of a fight and here do there trash trained professionals like its nothing that has to count for something." well this is sonic we're talking, your professional training won't really mean much if your opponent or ally has superpowers. "I mean sure Starlin is pretty new but so are there Skunk Bros" yes, but starline didn't really do anything as drastic as taking control of a village for a few months, all he did was blow up some random base (which i highly doubt the authorities know about), and kidnap one person. "And information would perhaps be a point of it wasn't for the fact .that the entire leadership of the Restauration was informed about him" maybe the restoration was too busy with, well, restoring, to send this information to the authorities? again, narratively, the cameras being there wouldn't affect the story that much, ian could just have zavok disable them, thus still allowing mimic to disguise as the warden and let the villains escape. "When your government is so bad that I make GUN look good that you know you fucked up somewhere down the line." and G.U.N being the same organization that asks for an immortality formula, just so they can make weapons out of it.........man, it's amazing how everyone on sonic's planet ain't dead by now. not sure. ooooh, okay, sorry, but yea, he was probably lying to make sure he got out first. listen man, the prison's main suppliers stopped producing alloys since 2001. "But yes I also hope it wouldn't be a Deus Ex Machina but my trust in Ian after the Zombie Virus arc took a real hit." well as we established awhile ago, ian is much better that shorter stories, so i have some faith he won't do this. of course i am. fair enough.
@alimowla3204
@alimowla3204 3 года назад
@@rynobehnke8289 oh, and remember that blaze tweet that restrict for you _and_ me? well it somehow came back to my bookmarks again, so, let's see if it works this time. twitter.com/chinchila010/status/1297208060717350919 pbs.twimg.com/media/EgCb2hQUMAEIY5n?format=jpg&name=medium uno pbs.twimg.com/media/EgCb2w6UMAAI8bj?format=jpg&name=medium dos.
@rynobehnke8289
@rynobehnke8289 3 года назад
​@@alimowla3204 1) Beep beep 2) Did you see how wide some of the halls are and there are also the big outer areas were only Flying Zombots could pose a threat. And I mean Restauration HQ was also a crowed mess, Dude the Zombie apocalypses just happened I highly daub by all the luting that would be going on by now would anyone notice it as to strange to see someone naked steal some cloths from a store. And how would it still be viable? I mean we saw on Cream's map that during the Angle Island potion of the last arc was Tails Workshop were Tangle and Wisper dumbed Mimic was also overrun by Zombots so wouldn't he if he wouldn't already have been moved turned into a Zombot, escape Tails workshop as a Zombie and after being returned to Normal easily be able to just walk away as his mimicking ability also includes cloths and voices? 3)Dude the Zombie Robots brock the giant door open (ether that or the more believable case of Eggman opening it him self to let the Zombies in.) I would assume that at the very least when that happened everyone would have grabbed there Wispons to fight back (generally speaking there complete absence beside Wispers in the Metal Virus arc is just ridicules) Right which is exactly why the Skunk brothers shouldn't just have lost. Because causing the big Return of the EGGMAN leading to a literal Zombie apocalypses isn't anything big(also didn't the warden directly state that fighting against Sonic for evil intent is enough to get the enemy of the Nation status). And just in case your forgot AMY WAS THE AUTORITIES AT THAT TIME. I mean since Forces were Knuckles and than Amy's organizations pretty much the only authorities on the planet that wasn't Eggman. Also Mimic is known because Tails made a call if Tails can do this while the Apocalypses is already on its way that sure as hell can Amy do the same right before the Apocalypses begins (or have Jewel do it now that she is in charge). And what about the Starline would have been stopped before he even got to the Villains part of my complain? I mean it is amazing given how often that seams to happen given that in 200 Years is Nega constantly trying to level the world, for 2000 years were the Black Arms already preparing for the invasion and 3000 Years ago did the world just barley escape a permeant planetary flood by the tentacles of Perfect Chaos. Than there could have at least taken the (more fragile) Windownium given that the Dreamcast sank with Windows on board. I guess but I highly daub he will remove this power with the end of the mini so it could still cause problems in the future. This times I was able to see them there are pretty funny. Here have some sassy Halloween Cream in exchange: www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/jctstc/jennifer_hernandezs_artwork_of_halloween_cream/
@aquamarinedragon1342
@aquamarinedragon1342 3 года назад
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