If This Gaudreau Story Is True, It's UNFORGIVABLE For Them.. 

What do you think the Flames Contract Offer was that made him feel "embarrassed"?

Nobody blames you Johnny. I’d be devastated if my team was on the brink of being a cup favorite, and within one offseason we lost our 2 best players. I hear you mate

Losing Gudreau was never the end for me...Losing Tkackukl is another story

That top line in the 21-22 season was unreal. Some of the consistently best hockey ive watched in a long long time. To see basically the entire line gone this season was upsetting. Went back and watched some games from last season right before this years playoffs, and this season's flames team was nothing... They overwhelmed defense and goaltenders last season, Significantly outshooting every team they played. This year it was like watching an ECHL team

This is so much hindsight applied here. Johnny had two pretty bad seasons by the standards of a superstar. Did you want Tre to give him a huge offer as a reward? Look at the Leafs and their cap management when the GM just hands out massive contracts willy nilly In the grand scheme of things, Johnny was ready to sign, his parents knew he was ready to sign. And one car ride with his wife changed that. That's what we know

huberdeau has one of the very worst contracts in the lague. it's really incredible he got that as a 30 year old winger....

Kinda lost in this though is that Johnny's status as a legit super star league is not certain. He has had 2 seasons scoring at a point per game or higher (and one of those seasons EVERY player on his team was going off at the same time). He is 29 now and last season was not encouraging. 10M a year would rapidly look like an overpayment if, as is probably likely, Johnny's best seasons are behind him. he is very good, but hasn't done enough to prove he isn't a 2nd tier star that deserves money in that 7-8M range..for now.

I've always liked the flames, so when I heard this was happening, I was hurt not only for Flames fans but for myself just sucked to see him leave, but I hope Huberdeau and Kadri can do something to get the Flames in a good position. Also love the vids Jonny, keep up the great work

They offered him what he deserved. He had one good season and expected to get paid. Pathetic

If we signed him in 2021 for even close to what he was offered on his last deal,and he fell flat then there would be as much whining about how we overpaid. Hindsight is 20/20. Jonny screwed us on the way out. At least Tkachuk gave us an opportunity to do a deal

How does that make any sense though? The parents were told the flames gave him an embarrassing offer the year prior (a bad performing year at that), then believe until the 12th hour he would be a flame? If he was that embarrassed by the offer why would the parents be so convinced? This trade had nothing to do with on-ice or anything hockey. His wife wanted to work in Columbus and took him for that infamous car ride.

Awesome video and explanation 👍👍

The Flames sudden implosion is crazy

So in reality, JG has had 1 really successful season in his last 3. Maybe a blessing in disguise.

How come you stopped pronouncing the french names in french? I liked that :)

I mean but look at Gaudreau now on his new team... he cant carry a team hes not that guy so this might actually look good for calgary

At the end of the day, these two players leaving the team was a wake up call and a lesson that Flames brass had to learn the hard way. Moving forward this might benefit the team in the long term by improving the way they plan these things out. In Conroy we trust.

I love the fact that Treliving is now in Toronto to continue his demoliton work. lol

I would never get over losing tkachuk whether they had a way to keep him or not. I honestly feel bad even tho I’m not a flames fan

Time will tell, but it does seem , given his year in Columbus, like he got overpaid as a UFA. Even before his Columbus year, he was still under a point per game with only his 115 point season standing out as a truly great season. There was no way Treveling would have, or even should have, offered him over ten million a year based on performance prior to his "breakout" season (if that's even what it was). Again, I could be wrong. Only time will tell but I think Calgary likely *did* offer a fair contract...not an embarrassing one.

I've always maintained there was more too this than it had to be more than just not wanting to sign.

The guys on the radio said the number Tre offered started with a $6. Tkachuk also said he was surprised with the bridge and was expecting an 8 year deal. Treliving was hit and miss as GM.

What’s the story with who he is chirping in the av’s hand shake line?

It was stupid for Philly to not grab him when they could. I mean at this point no player in their mind would want to come here aside from Hathaway which I'm scratching my head about. I'm waiting for the redemption of wasting a 1st round pick on a great player that might not be able to come here.

It just sucks we lost him for nothing. We could've gotten a similar Tkachuk style trade and maybe that would've helped get us to the playoffs and we could've avoided signing Kadri.. just hope we don't make the same mistakes with Lindholm, Hanifin and Backlund. Each of them can get us decent trades. Backlund probably for picks but Hanifin and Lindholm especially should get us decent picks/prospects.

Tree f'd up. Twice. Maybe 3x if you consider some other bad moves (Lucic?). They did a good job of covering this up, but now that we know, we know he had to go. Keep a close eye on what this guy does to the Leafs, b/c it likely ain't gonna be a cup.

Fumbled the bag, screwed the pooch, we will need a good part of next season to see if the ship is righted ,or can be

Looks like Toronto is going to keep on golfing every spring

So, Treliving screwed things up with Johnny? What a surprise. The only surprising thing is that Sutter didn't get the blame for this.

This is really old news,...although few seem to know about it. I read the article that talked about what Gaudreau's parents said. Made me wary about Treliving coming to the Leafs...after how badly the Flames got botched up by management...and Treliving was clearly a part of that. The mainstream media say absolutely nothing about this...in their suckup to NHL franchises.

I’ve been a panthers fan since I was a youngin. I’ve seen many a game with Hubie and Flying fluffy sees what all us panthers fans see. Hubie was always talented and had talent. But he doesn’t have an edge in his game like Chucky does I know they put up similar numbers in the season prior. The new system might do Hubie good but he never was a good fit in Sutters system because he emphasized the forecheck and defense more than pure offense . Tyler Toffoli is a great player but if he’s your best scorer that’s an issue especially if Hubie isn’t seeing the apples come like he did in Florida with Barkov. I get a new environment and more spotlight are factors but Hubie may have a hard time in the coming years especially when he doesn’t have those solid scorers to play on a line with.

This is your new GM Leafs nation. Good luck with Matthews, Marner, and Nylander 😂

Fans should realize that when players are UFAs, they can sign with whoever they want. Nothing a team (in this case the Flames) can do about it.

Rebuild! By the time they turn into contenders, Edmonton will be done it’s run, Vegas, Seattle as well. Blow it up.

I just think its funny they put the same guy who lost Johnny for nothing in carge of not losing Matthews/Nylander fir nothing next year

I'm not sure how you can save you love Brad Treliving if you also think that he utterly fumbled the ball with respect to Tkachuk and Gaudreau. It was one thing when the belief was that both players wanted to play in the US, but if it was more a case of his actions making them both want to leave then that undoes whatever else he might have done as Flames' GM. It's a bit of, "Other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how was the play?"

Calgary also thought Martin St. Louis was too small

As an Oilers fan, I'm super sad to see what the flames have become. The end of Gaudreau and The Turtle in Calgary spelled the end to what was about to become an epic Battle of Alberta over the course of the next few years. Tbh I think you guys fumbled big time with the Huberdeau contract too... his 100 point season was just a fluke, at least in my view so not enough output for what you're paying him.

Do you also remember you guys could've had Kucherov! but you guys skipped him & drafted Tyler Wotherspoon instead, A bottom 6 AHL defenceman over a Top 5 superstar in the NHL. Bridging Tkachuk to protect Troy Brouwer from the 2017 expansion draft is a mistake you guys won't get out of your heads.

Kadri has to get out of accepting losing as okay. I think Toronto wrecked a lot of players, paid them a lot of money and it damages the physquie of players. Kadri was an absolute talent, and I think that team wrecked him.

So was Treliving a fool or a genius? Because could a deal have been okayed but at a lower number by an owner or two?

thanks for posting could not believe how we turned on Johny .and then the loss of chucky i knew something was sour in Calgary. no wonder Brad high tailed it to Toronto .that's the guy we need to throw under the bus

Johnny was never going to bring Calgary a cup. Chucky was a mistake.. Losing Johnny was a blessing in disquise.

I feel like since the draft no one cares about hockey until Bedard steps onto the ice.

Yea i miss those players cuz johns dad reminded me of my late dad but it sucks we wont be able to have a good b.o.a for a long time , ffs

Losing Gudreau was bad, losing Tkachuk maybe worse, but signing Kadri longterm for 7 Mio. is nothing but nuts. Kadri is 32, what do the Flames expect him to deliver in 3 years? This contract is the next big buy-out. Huberdeau may have been worth 10,5 Mio. at the time, but not for 8 years?!!! For the sake of the Flames, I hope both guys prove me wrong.

Fumbled the bag ???

What the hell is wrong with Canadian team GMs? There's so much ineptitude. One massively overpays 3 forwards, including 2 RFAs over $10M a year, which massively limits the team's cap flexibility. Another is too conservative, doesn't make proactive moves, and is more reliant on loyalty and friendship than winning. Another GM who doesn't want to have his team go through a much-needed rebuild. And then we have Treliving, who could have kept Tkachuk and Gaudreau as Flames long-term if he had simply used his head. I don't get it. Are these guys trying to do a self-sabotage to keep a Canadian team from ever winning a cup?

This is why you don't get married. His wife changed his mind......ugh. Now Tkachuk is now a MVP level player.

You don't sign Johnny for 9 Mill per after 2 bad seasons.

The Flames did nothing wrong, and that hurts to say as an Oiler fan lol.

I’m embarrassed to be a flamers fan right now

The Flames brought Sutter in a few too many times.

No Adam fox, no Tkachuk, no Gaudreau. Must be tough being a Calgary fan lmao

flames fan here give it up hes gone

losing JG wasnt the problem. Losing Tkachuk and gaining a massive albatross contract in Huberdeau..That's what's going to sting for a long time.

Guess you should play to the best of your abilities every season instead of taking a year off! Nobody gets a $10 million dollar deal for a 50 point season!!!

He could still become a bust in Columbus

Pizza delivery boy

Listen, I'm a Flames fan. Have been since I was a kid. But my god, I have no hope for Kadri or Huberdeau. They peaked. Same with Markstrom. I would say rebuild, but you're stuck with Huberdeau for literally a decade. Calgary will be the next team to re-locate if he doesn't CONSISTENTLY put up 100+ points until he can't no more. Otherwise? Hell, if the Flames are done in Calgary, keep the team in Canada and send them to Quebec or Hamilton.

They drop the ball big time. I would fire the gm and hockey pres. Unbelievable they could of had both superstars but trying to low ball and let them walk. Johnny is okay but in few years he won't be worth 9.75 mil

Chucky is missed

Move on get over it. Flames will be fine. Removing Lucic and Lewis from the fourth line will be huge for team speed and tenacity.

Treliving one of your favorites? 😮😅😢 I’d say he is not very good at all

If this guys not scoring goals he pulls a Houdini

U get what you are worth

JG's mom's statements don't make sense chronologically. First, she states that she thought up to the 12th hour he would remain in Calgary, but then discusses the contract offer the previously year. JG was leaving Calgary all along. Period. Trying to sell the narrative that it was the team's fault is crap. Just accept the fact that the decision was made by JG's wife.

one of the worst franchises in sports

Who starts a rebuild after a generational talent is drafted 😂 Calgary down bad

Anyone who says that thing would have been better if something different had happened needs to understand that each decision that is made has a ripple effect and that everything in the universe changes from that moment. What if Calgary kept both players but then something even worse than losing the two guys to FA and trade happens? Are you really ready to face that reality? If not then stop living in the past, accept what happened and try to make changes to make the situation better. Saying things like, “It’s UNFORGIVABLE” is a poor mindset and one that doesn’t encourage learning from mistakes. It’s okay to be critical or to critique for improvement but this unforgiving mindset will only lead towards worse emotions. I used to really like this channel but lately the content has become negative and I just don’t feel it any more.

The BIGGEST mistake in Flames history hands down was hiring Brad Treliving! By far the worst GM the Flames have EVER had and they’ve had some bad ones! After the damage he’s done, good riddance!

There is nothing there to see for a Flames perspective. Move on. We are rebuilding for the new arena and it's ok, sports are cycles.

Why the hell would you love Treliving? Either you’re demented or an oilers fan. Nobody else would love Treliving. Seriously….

Who cares. The best thing to happen to the Flames. The thought of an Offence built around him for the next 8 years makes me ill.

I think Flames lucked out a 8 year deal would have ended up an albatross contract you all tbink caps going up newsflash the economy is tanking rwvenue is not going to go up its going down mark my words

Hubie is a dud. He'll never be anything he was with the Panthers. I went to a game where I sat where the FLames were warming up. While most of the Flames were skating hard Hubie coasted like he was at a family skate. No urgency, no sense of purpose, just floating around touching th e puck the odd time. Sure enough the game starts and he plays the same way. What a waste of 10 mil a year

Losing gudreau was a blessing, tkachuck was a major loss. Treliving fucked up big time. Glad he's in toronto now. The three whiners (huber, kadri, weegar) better have the seaons of their lives. As for lindholm, get trade him, he obviously doesn't want to be here. Time to clean house. Hopefully our new GM isn't treliving 2.0 but it's looking like it

I think you forgot about the Debrinit trade ???

Who cares at this point. JG screwed us over on the way out by not allowing a deal to be made. It was a pre madonna move for a guy who just put up two crap seasons before a good one. It was a pety move and a lot of fans completely lost respect for him and justly so. Anyway have fun in Columbus, I hope his team comes dead last every season no matter who he plays for

If you are such a Flames fan, why can't you pronounce "Calgary" correctly?

I can't lie. As a Buffalo fan it's kinda nice to see another team be on the end of crap like this.

Everyone: Johnny going to either Philly or NJ to be closer to home Johnny: *Signs with Columbus* Everyone: 😵‍💫🤔😤🤬🤷‍♂️

Kadri and huberdeau are washed up.. poor Calgary is doomed

Need to change your channel to Johnny Drama Queen

Thank you throwing light on this. It never felt right somehow. I think Flyer fans are more pissed off than anyone. I believe they wanted him, but the east is a tough go. Especially Philly and New York City. Columbus is not ready to win , they are building so that won’t piss off Calgary fans. It was a safe destination. Which is sad because it may be the whole length of his deal to get a run in the playoffs. He’s the kinda player to root for even he is not on your club. 🏒🍸

you could just NOT make a video, if theres nothing out.

Gaudreau is meh. He had one really great season. That's it. Now he's trash in Columbus and that's where he belongs. -33 , 74 points.

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Thank god Matthews doesn’t have a wife

It's Murray Edwards fault. He's so cheap

Get over it

Sorry, man. Huberdeau is 30 and Kadri is 32. They're officially in their declining years and will probably never put up the numbers they once did. As much as I hate Tkachuk, you guys were absolutely fleeced on that trade, and it's going to hurt the Flames for many years to come.

Your clickbait headlines are so irritating