If Zak Gramarye Never Fired Kristoph Gavin 

Gotta cut Kristoph some slack, I guess. Or not. 😅

Actually made me more mad at Zak. If he told Phoenix from the start about the page, Phoenix would have realized that the page he was given was fake and demanded that Trucy tell him who actually gave it to her and reported it immediately. Thus, he wouldn't have lost his badge, Trucy wouldn't have lost her father, Vera wouldn't have lost her father as well, and the only person who's life was ruined would have been Kristoph's and Valant's. All because Zak didn't cooperate with the best man who could have easily helped him since the beginning: Phoenix Wright.

you know its a good scenario when only thing saddening is pheonix never adopting trucy

7:21 That's the scariest face of Kristoph Gavin ever. That's the face of someone barely able to contain behind his calm facade his anger and hatred at the guy who just betrayed and ruined him. Now that Zak has earned Kristoph's full and undivided enmity, he and Trucy are in even more mortal danger than in canon. One cannot cross the Devil and expect to live a calm and peaceful life.

It seems in every universe, Kristoph fails.

The end feels like it's setting up for a continuation... this could make for a very interesting AU of Apollo Justice, if you ask me!

Well, this was a much more interesting AU than I was initially expecting. I had a feeling that the validity of the diary page would be called into question, but Zak himself being the one to basically get Kristoph disbarred was a welcome surprise. Zak definitely was a guy who did a LOT of questionable (to put it mildly) things in Apollo Justice, but good to see that he was above getting a not guilty verdict through dirty means and getting his partner arrested on false charges. And it’s also good to know that the Mishams were spared in this universe, but it is pretty sad to think that Apollo and Trucy may never meet since Zak’s a free man.

I think Kristoph and Roger Retinez would become best friends and partners in their road to destroy the Gramaryes

This man's in boot camp and still delivering flawless content What an absolute trooper, nay, an absolute unit, not even that, absolute GIGA CHAD!

Seeing klavier support his brother and refuse to believe his forgery, despite the fact that kristoph didn't care about him, shows how kind and loving of his brother he is. Meanwhile Zak is a massive idiot, but at least Nick was fine in the end. This ending opens many possibilities for something wrong happening to Zak...

Some of the people might be saved and alive in this timeline, but i cant help getting the feel that this Kristoph would be much nastier and more chaotic than canon timeline

Kristoph scares me. When I heard a bit of how evil he was I expected the reason of making pheonix suffer to be more dramatic but no… The only reason those 7 years happened was because Christoph got pissy like a little child just because he wasn’t picked for a single case. People like him actually exist and they do stuff like murder people for little reasons or petty reasons it’s really fucking scary

Actually, the trial would still be inconclusive since Zak would still go "Nah fam, you can declare a verdict if I don't exist" and disappear, he did say to Phoenix that it wouldn't matter how the trial ends... Although I can imagine he would still stay to be declared innocent to not .ake the trial more complicated than it already was

That Objection overruled is tight man. I wished they did it in the ace attorney games

Wow, everything was well done! Zak feels less of an ass now for some reason. Another video well down 👏 Also the objection overruled line is awesome

Oh, man, this is brilliant! Is a sequel to this possible? I feel like there are still threads left to explore - with Zak, Valant, Kristoph, Phoenix and what not. Is it possible?

Quite a logicial story as always. Though, I'm surprised that both Zak Gramarye and the judge were more inclined to act during the trial. Zak by revealing the page which gives the real evidence and motive behind the scenes, and the judge who overuled some crucial objections. Now, seeing how Kristoph ends here, i wonder 2 things: 1: does he have some psyche-locks incoming? 2: if Zak is his new target, what kind of outcome it would bring after? His death or Trucy's demise?

This is extravagantly well done. I don’t have anything more to say than that right now, but I needed to verbally appreciate the sheer quality of this piece. Okay, now I have things to say. It makes me wonder if Phoenix’s disbarment was perhaps the best thing that ever happened to him. I may be slightly messing up the timeline, but would he have ever adopted his daughter Trucy? Would he have met Apollo (and later Athena) - all such incredibly important people in his life? There are a few very important spoilery things that may have never happened too! Wow. Interesting.

satisfying to see Kristoph fail in yet another way. such a good timeline for nearly everyone (well, except Trucy still has Zak as her dad which i'm not too sure about but here he seems like a more decent person so it's probably fine). great vid as always!

Kristoph was doomed from the beginning Anyways your videos are great, I love em ❤

I would love to see an alternate story with this plot, it's incredibly well done!

Mhmm! Phoenix would still have his badge, which would be quite interesting since he'd also might still have to take care of Trucy? He would have his hands tied with his job and the kid. Overall, great video!

Honestly, I thought he was going to commit suicide with the poison.

Oh my god Kristoph just cant have a good life whatever happens in that case...

You rather not leave your daughter alone in this world? I call bullshit...

That was interesting yet thoroughly entertaining.

I'm so invested in what'll happen next! Can't wait for a potential sequel!

Well if Kristoph kills Zak Gramarye and he gets caught and arrested for his murder in this alternate timeline, I imagine that he would have a very clear motive for murder this time unlike in the Apollo Justice Game where he could have gotten away with plausible deniability if it weren't for Phoenix Wright making the Jury relevant again. And I don't think the Judge will let Kristoph off easy this time unlike in the Apollo Justice Game. If Kristoph were to be convicted of Zak Gramarye's murder, I imagine it might go like something like this. The Judge: That's enough, I see no reason to further prolong this trial. Kristoph Gavin, Your motive is very clear. You murdered Zak Gramarye because he got you disbarred when you tried to forge evidence to win a case. This court hereby finds you guilty. Prosecutor Klavier Gavin: You break my heart brother, to think that the day I would have to prosecute you would ever have to come. I had hoped that this day would have never come. Not only were you going to cheat against me by trying to get a not guilty verdict with fake evidence in our first court debut, but you also murder the same man who got you rightfully disbarred instead of accepting responsibility that you requested the forgery and repenting for it. I never wanted to imagine that you forging evidence was true, and you murdering the same man who ousted you as forging evidence is something I wanted to imagine even less. Because of both of your sins and their types, both back then and now, you really don't belong in the courtroom not back then and not now. I loved you Kristoph because you were my brother, but I cannot save you anymore. Goodbye brother.

Portsman can take on Kristoph. He'd put up a good fight... I think, lol. Anyhow, this was a noice video, although I kind of fear for Trucy's life now. :/ Again, great vid!

This is amazing!! Your work is gripping from start to finish as always, Debastian. It's got me thinking about what would be different. Phoenix continues his career as normal, and Klavier... I wonder what kind of person he'll turn out to be now.

At least he's not blaming Wright.

And thus Kristoph murdered Zak and Phoenix had to prove him guilty. Alt universe of AJ prob taking place several year prior since Zak didn’t have to disappear.

Brilliant work my friend This is 4 times better than actual AJ They should have went with your idea and then the game would be redeemable

I can still see how Phoenix would adopt trucy in this situation once Kristoph murdered Zak in this timeline, after the death of his client, Phoenix would immediately go to the scene to find out what happened and of course Trucy would be there, probably being consoled by police and he'd take her in to protect her.

God all of these posts are so GOOD. Props yet again

You're SO great at this omfg.

AYOOOOO I found this channel a few days ago and I just wanted to say how much I love your Objection lols!!!! They're so well-made and WOOOO I can't wait to watch all of them!!! 🙌🙌

I LOVE this what-if scenario!!!!!! I can actually see this taking place in the cannon. I wish this had happened instead if it happing to Phoneix. I'm concerned what the consequences could be for Zak and what Kristoph has instate for him

kristoph gavin a sad excuse for a lawyer and the starter of the dark age of the law

Kristoph's hated in every universe i see

I wonder if Zak is suddenly gonna drop dead and Trucy is gonna grow up as a corrupt defense attorney....won't that be wacky? Who would even do that?

I hope this gets a sequel, this looks like an interesting scenario that could be explored for sure!

I love how kristoph is constantly like angry asf but just going ^_^ anyway

Good god. Divergence RULES here! And it looks like Kristoph is doomed to repeat history, one way or another lol. Awesome stuff! I might make my own stuff like this like you do! It can take hours tho, right?

Awesome Video! I do hope for a part 2 someday.

First comes the pride... Then comes the fall... Kristoph Gavin in a nutshell

I think he still kinda of an ass. He had been honest from the start and presented that page, Kristoph wouldn't even have needed to forge evidence

Zak is possibly the most nonsensical character in the franchise. Almost every action he did made zero sense. He hides evidence that could save him. He abandons his daughter for no reason. He became extremely violent towards the woman he hired to help him cheat. Basically Zak’s character was one big question mark. It’s like he didn’t know what kind of dude he was.

Now i can imagine him and Roger Retinz teaming up against Zak Gramarye

I love your videos so much

8:45 it’s funny to me how Kristoph goes into someone’s house and shouts “objection”

This is art

Interesting idea and i love the way you executed it. Love it. ❤

Y'know I just realized this timeline could end even worse.. *considering it's likely trucy will Wind up being framed or killed alongside her dad in Kristoph's pursuit of VENGEANCE.* My my, Not Debeste Outcome for anyone is it?

Is there going to a Part 2? If not I guess let's make a community made continuation. For me klaiver soon talk to phoinex and Edgeworth and review what is going on with Kristoph, then after some talk klaiver decides to join Edgeworth to search for the truth after being lied to by his brother. Soon enough he's a member of Edgeworth's agency and after some early trials he began to see ways he can find the truth and soon enough became a great prosecutor. Anyone else wants to tell their version be free to do it in the replies

"So... Everything was leading of this... Of course... ... Gramarye... Gramarye... GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

4:58 This is the coolest Judge's line I've ever heard

I've been thinking about this, and you seem to be perfectly articulating and express my thoughts! Bravo!

I wonder if something would bring a good ending for Kristoph. Even with aleternatives he got crazy. Great video tough. I'm always fascinated to get into his head 😁´

I had an idea for a new video: The trial of IS-7 with Gregory Edgeworth. This probably will be pretty long so, (if you feel like it) work on this with any spare time you have. ( This would be greatly appreciated ) Thank you.

1:12 and 4:38 I love how Zak’s “OBJECTION” sounds, along with the “OBJECTION OVERRULED!” 4:58

No matter the timeline, Kristoph is fucking Vile...

Wow what for a Masterpiece of a Video. Keep up this great and wonderful Work.👏🏻

Heh, the TF2 soldier voice quips were pretty funny. But that aside, this is a very well written “what-if” video. All the characters had dialogue that actually matches their personality unlike most other fan-made content by other youtubers.

Why do I get the nasty feeling that if this AU were to continue, Zak would end up dead and Trucy would be framed as the killer? I mean it's either that or Valant, but I think that Kristoph is vindictive, petty, and cruel enough to frame her because "Wouldn't want to leave your daughter alone in this world, now would we?"

That ending made Kristoph sound like Shelly de Killer 😱

Coming back to this I really dont know why Zak makes these stupid decisions to begin with. Seems like he just likes to mess around with everyone. He just doesn't care 😭

Zak is the reason why Apollo Justice exist...

And yet another great upload (also just found out you're Greek, which is an honour as a fellow Greek-Ace-Attorney-lover myself.) Ελπίζω να είσαι καλά, και κάθε ημέρα σου να είναι πιο ευχάριστη από την προηγούμενη. Καλή τύχη και υγειά!

Well, Zak is royally screwed now! Can't help but feel worried for Trucy though. Who knows what Kristoph could come up with...?

kristoph got bullied too much😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂

I want Kristoph to win next time, I want to see what happens.

on mlp ace attorney EOJ case 2 phoenix wright talks about him to Athena

Waaaait wait wait so where does that bring us ? Kristoph murders Zak 7 years later. But Phoenix never lost his badge... The Misham case never happens either... What on Earth does that result in, in the end ? Maybe Kristoph's prepared a lot better to NOT be found guilty of Zak's murder- WAIT NO, actually that trial never happens either. Or at least not with Apollo as the defense... Having lost his position, Gavin never hires Apollo. So then Phoenix hires him instead, by a turn of Fate ? BRO IF ZAK HADN'T FIRED GAVIN THERE WOULD BE NO APOLLO JUSTICE GAME, DUAL DESTINIES'D JUST HAVE TO HAPPEN DIRECTLY LMFAO

Afterwards, Roger Retinz hires Kristoph to be his sexy assistant, and 7 years later they attempt a double-homicide-frameup on the father-daughter magician duo. The two are unexpectedly stopped by a spirit channeled Magnifi Gramarye, and Phoenix's mom.

Bro it was fantastic!! If you ever start a Patreon you can count me in!

Wait does this mean Kristoph ends up with Trucy in the aftermath of the trial?

Choked on my spit when you used solider tf2 as Zak’s objection voice line

my girlfriend's father did the same thing as zak gramarye we played poker i lost he said you have permission to date my daughter at first i didn't understand was the purpose but now do i understand

Hmmm...what if current timeline Trucy somehow went back in time to this timeline where Phoenix never became her adopted dad?

Judge: I will allow you and your brother to both take this case. I will even allow you to share your trump cards with each other in this series that does not even have discovery. But you cannot object to the accusations against your brother. That would obviously be a conflict of interest.

Say ever consider a video of a what if Phoenix doesn't present the forged evidence or finds someway to turn things around and present the possibility of Magnifi death being a suicide?

Honestly serious comment now. This would be a wayyyy better intro as to why kristoph killed Zak

now do the trial but kristoph gavin as the hand too heavy on forged evidence because zak hide them all on him have all the true evidence on him do be found not guilty and proof the suicide but chose to just say no i want to be guilty

10:43 i thought Kristoph was going to kill klavier

I like to play this video after kristoph insanity video specifically when he told Vera about the magic nail polish and after his monologue about proving how Phoenix was joke I played this video

There seem to be a lot of these AUs where Phoenix never loses his badge because one person had one extra brain cell. I've heard even Capcom would rather we forget about this game. Come to think of it, at the beginning of Spirit of Justice, Phoenix claimed to have "more than 10 years of experience" as a lawyer. Sure ya do, buddy.

Destroy Your Live what Kristoph was Planned to Zak Gramarye in this alternative time............ oh my god, that Madman! ............ R.I.P .....

You know, i felt for 2 seconds that Kristoph might have had a change of heart, or at least was going to try to escape his problems and not hurt more people, immediately followed by death threats to Zak.

Would love a part 2

Excuse me, Mr. Sebeste. A subscriber of mine gave me an idea about asking permission to make a translation of this video into Spanish or a video inspired by it on my channel. What do you think?. If you say no, I'll understand.

now Im curious about........... SPOILERS FROM AAI2: if Horace Knightley wasnt murdered how would the trial of his would've went Raymond Shields his Defense Attorney against....Prosecutor Miles Edgeworth who Raymond probly still thinks hes a traitor and much like Manfred oh boy....now despite I love Raymond bein a Uncle type but Im pretty sure Raymond goin against Miles in court he probly gonna be less make jokes and takes it a bit serious

Actually, can you do one were Valant isn't an asshole and confess to his crime of tampering with the crime scene and that nobody killed anybody? I know by itself isn't much of a video, but maybe you can do it after the Time Skip so maybe Zak gets his name cleared and isn't snuffed out by Kristoph, then he helps clear off Phoenix name to make up for the mess he dragged him to.

1 game of fucking poker

Nice video! Well done! All characters are based on personas. And I would like to ask, where can I get these sprites from? thanks

Hmmmm... Maybe you should make more "theory" lols?

Spoilers for TGAA2. Just some ideas. I love how you portray Kristoph's twisted mindset. Especially in "Kristoph Gavin's Descent to Insanity". Maybe you can add something like Kazuma's thoughts before and during his confrontation with Gregson on the SS Barrablock. Or maybe emphasizing Lord Stronghart's mindset and his actions during the Professor Killings era and/or during the present time when Ryuunosuke arrived in Britain. Either way, keep up the good work.

Great video.

Man. Kristoph is such a douche, but it would've been great if they had incorporated him throughout the apollo justice story. It would've helped the cases throughout the game feel more important rather than side stories. Great video man!

Maybe next on the agenda you could do a video of Kristoph's confrontation with Zak in Turnabout Trump before he killed him