@Bb Sz Is that so? I'm not very knowledgeable about Ancient Rome, but I'm doing medieval reenactment. And in this particular domain, people often confound average life expectancy with the age one can reach when being lucky. Stillborn childs dramatically reduce average life expectancy in the Middle Ages to around 30 years, but what this means is that for every dead newborn, one other person reached the age of 60, and there are a lot of examples of older people. So, you are surely correct that there would be much less old people back then than today, especially amongst the common people. But I wouldn't be surprised that powerful and influential people would become old if they managed to survive assassination attemps or illness. Casear died age 55 assassinated Pompeius died age 57, assassinated Crassus died age 62 in battle Augustus died age 75 of natural death or poisoning Important to see is that except emperor Augustus, all of the mentioned were still in full fighting capabilities, no one expected them to be close to their death by age. So, while your general comment about people often dying around 40/50 is probably correct in general, I don't think that it is completely wrong for a movie to show old senators or emperors.
1:56 "If I'd wanted to reach over there for it, I'd have put my hand over there." That quiet, arrogant display, while unscripted, sets up the emperor's character so well. Absolute power, spoiled rotten.
Tiberius is the emperor in this film IIRC. Virtually EVERY Roman emperor had an ego the size of the empire (it's almost comical how huge and numerous the monuments they built for themselves are).
@@thunderbird1921 Well, monuments were necessary, their version of scoring Time's Man of the Year. Monuments were the New York Times or the Guardian; wall graffiti were the tabloids.
@@jedchristian3423 Probably caused by lead poisoning. (Really! They used lead pitchers for acidic drinks like wine, and certain fruits. Plus basically everything that they ate off of, plumbing pipes, etc., etc. was lead!!! The poorer people used clay pottery for these things!)
A real clever use of the camera from 01:00 on when the general climbs the stairs. We first see the general look up, with a serious look in his face. We get a feeling of the weight of the moment. Then he begins climbing the stairs and we feel his loneliness, when it is just him at the stairs. And at the end of it all, it is as if he reaches the top of Mount Olympus and the Gods sit there, with the Supreme God - the Emperor - at the center of it all. The message, both for the Romans and for us viewers, is unmistakable: this is the Emperor, the most powerful man on the planet.
Agreed - but disagree what it would result into today. If let´s say it would be a Netflix production, the day after the trailer releases there would be a huge shitstorm, because its....fill int the blank "too woke" ...wrong clothes , etc. the world is gotten ignorant.
@@laimonassileika2285 Yes he is. When Augustus adopted him, Caesar became his patronymic. As emperor his name was Tiberius Caesar Augustus. Caesar eventually became a duty title, but even then it sort of was.
Jack Hawkins 100% DESERVED his Academy Award for his performance! Just look at him climbing the stairs at ~ 1:12, every inch a triumphant Roman general!
Hawkins did not win any Academy Award for Ben-Hur or any of his other films. The Best Supporting Actor award in Ben-Hur went to Hugh Griffith for his part as the Arab owning Ben-Hur's chariot horses.
Director Wyler had the Romans portrayed by British actors; the Emperor Tiberius here is played by a fine old British character actor called George Relph. Uncredited as his scribe who almost forgets to give him his scroll is Ralph Truman who specialised in villains and is particularly good as the head of the Praetorian Guard in the first of the 50s epics, "Quo Vadis".
Reminds me of my victory march to the podium after my stunning victory at the first ( & only) full contact tiddlywinks championship of 1967. Glory was never so grand.
This is the best triumphal music ever. I remember it from the movie like it was yesterday. What a set, what costumes! No graffiti, no trash, no dirty clothes, no poor people and a main street and forum grander than any ever dreamed of by any Roman, lol. The Hollywood Roman costumes with the peach colored plumed helmet for the commander, no cheek guards and barely a neck guard for the common soldiers who all in Hollywood style of course must have crests in their helmets. Thanks for uploading this!!!
that was kind of refreshing when HBO produced the serie showing how dirty and stinky a city like Rome really, was full of narrow streets and crampy living.
@@kamion53 very true. Big budget movies from this period always glossed over the dirt, poverty of the average Roman. However since this is Imperial Rome, the triumphal march was probably done in the very good part of town away from the neighborhoods. If you know Washington DC, it’s pretty much the same. Pennsylvania Ave from the White House is kept up with Neo Classical bldgs and is a very broad street.
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What an honor for Judah, from Galley slave to riding next to a conquering general of the greatest empire in the world at that time. Though not always, it does go to show how doing the right thing can lead to unsurprising benefits and rewards. Edit: Never do the right thing for what you might receive, do it because it's the right thing to do.
Eine wundervolle Szene, mit der Seeschlacht die Beste im gesamten Film, man spürt die Kraft und Macht des Imperiums, als der göttliche Kaiser Tiberius den Sieges und Marschallstab dem Arius übergibt! Dazu kommt noch die fantastische imperiale Musik, die einfach eine Gänsehaut macht. Toller Film, so etwas wird heutzutage nicht mehr Produziert, leider. Heil Arius !
Actually, research shows that this is correct. And the instruments here are correct. In fact one of the few films that almost gets the period nearly correct.
1:57 the emperor (that is the Emperor, right? Been a long time since I saw Ben Hur) is like "Umm.. do you expect me to take this myself?!" to his aide. Hilarious expression for some reason.
The triumphator's face would have been painted red, making him a symbolic representation of Mars. The procession would go along the via sacra through the forum, up to the temple of Jupiter Optimus Maximus on the Capitoline hill. There is a sort-of legend that a slave would have ridden behind the consul, and whispered into his ear reminding him that he was not a god, just a mortal. The procession would have begun with spoils of war, and prisoners...the most important of which would have been executed at the end of the procession. Caesar kept Vercingetorix alive for YEARS just so he could be executed during his triumph! The consul's legions would follow, making it the only time an army was allowed to cross the sacred city boundary (the pomerium) under arms. The senate had to approve of a triumph, and there was a lesser award called an ovation for those not deemed worthy enough to celebrate one. Consuls might have at times camped for weeks or even months with their army outside of the city, waiting for approval. It marked the high point of a man's political career during the republican period if it was awarded. The crowds would have also been quite rowdy! I think out of all of the depictions of a triumph, HBO's Rome got it most accurate, at least in terms of depicting a generic triumph, and not so much the specifics of Julius Caesar's. I'm speaking from the viewpoint of the republican period, at least during the second and first centuries BC. I'm not sure how much the triumph changed after Augustus! Consuls no longer commanded legions. Instead legates chosen by the emperor did.
only an Imperator can triumph, for a general to want or conduct one would be seen as rebellion. That said triumphs were held to honour the Emperor's "victories"
also the triumphator would not wear a military outfit but the toga picta ( god and purple) The senate not only had to give their approval, the senators also walked themselves in the triumphus., they came next after the display of spoils of war and scenes of the war. the chariot shown in the Holywood pictures is the same type as in the chariot races, but actuall it was a four wheel chariot big enough to have the familie of the triumphator in it too. These Holywood scenes are pretty impressive of course, but had not much in common with historical accuracy.
@@TeutonicKnight92 This is Hollywood, you think there was a military industrial complex turning out exact copies of uniforms? And a Roman military official wearing what colored plumes-peach or ochre?
I've never been the type to say "Actors back then were all so good"--no fan of MST3K/Rifftrax is lol--but scenes like this make you appreciate where that sentiment comes from. Emperor Tiberius here only has one, maybe two, scenes but you can just *feel* the authority and power the actor gives him (which, ironically, may have been lacking in the real Tiberius at this point--fascinating man by the way. Look up Tiberius if you can read between the lines and are in the mood for a tragedy)
As a Roman, I like this video. Immense hard work leads to triumphs. Body and mind 100% dedicated to Rome will make any man free and strong like no other before or after. ( listen many times over this song, so you can have an idea of what fruits your hard work and dedication to the highest human challenges will bring to you).
Si .... e i barbari sassoni & company tagliavano le teste dei nemici e appendevano i loro crani fuori le loro capanne di paglia e fango..... spero di esser stato chiaro. STRONZO!
When i didn't know nothing about matte painting effects in movies and knowing that computers could do this only in late 90s....I was so confused how did they make that huge set? :)))
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What a feeling it must have been to be at a Triumph like this.😮 You might well be living in poverty and squalor in an insulae but being present at something like reminded you that you were a citizen in the greatest empire in the known world.
The senate would habe never granted arius a tribute, just for taking out a few pirate ships to be granted a triumph at least 5000 enemys had to be killed in a single battle
The Senate had no real power by that point. They served merely as a rubber stamp for the Emperor. If the Emperor decreed that someone should have a triumph, then that was that. If he wanted to grant you a triumph for picking your nose, there's nothing the Senate could say or do about it!
It's really amazing to see. In these days there were no CGI...so if you needed a big crowd?. Guess what, you hired a few thousand extras off the street and paid them a few bucks to stand there and cheer like an idiot lol.
Anybody that has been to Rome knows there's not that much flat area like the street they show in this scene and the streets were certainly not that wide.