At 16:30 the give way on the roundabout was caused when you set the main road next to it to have all the joining roads give way, which I think includes roundabouts :)
The thing i like most about Biffa is that he never fails to complement the player when they have done something correct or interesting. The first few minutes of this city is basically praise for a well designed city with a few problems. Even when he starts fixing the city, he doesn't condescend or become rude, just patiently explains his method and what he looks for. Thanks for the video Biffa, I really learned a lot.
16:01 "i am just a normal citizen, following the rules of the town i live in, but suddenly there was this fragrence of tea in the air and - poof - now i am in heaven... why is everything a roundabout up here???"
Hey Biffa, love your stuff. Small correction though... The roundabout at 16:40 had the yield/priority signs the wrong way because you had given the main roads priority just before that. You also forgot to fix one of the sides.
To add to this, it's the same tool that you use to set up roundabouts - shift-clicking any road will make all adjoining roads give way. Simple fix is to use it on any roundabouts again, after adjusting the road
@@riannaHermione I just watched one of his videos from a month-or-so before this one and... he couldn't get that shift-click thing right! Bemoaned anyone who commented that he could "shift-click" to set-up a roundabout....
15:42, "I'm gonna make this a main road & mess up the round-a-bout's give way signs, then blame you for doing it wrong" :) Keep up up what you do Biffa!! XDD
Time after time I'm amazed that a simple thing like removing a set of traffic lights clears a lot of traffic... I've been back on a few of my earlier city builds (that I could load) that collapsed under the weight of their own traffic and tried a few little tweaks and I now have a set of cities to continue developing. Nice series.
Can’t understand how im so into videos abt a game i don’t play... 😂 think its 1/2 the game and 1/2 biffa’s hillarious comments . Oh and this city is super cute.
8:55 those people have clearly never played this game for any length of time, and have no idea what they're talking about lol... 85% traffic flow is BASICALLY perfection.
There is a rumoured method It requires all roads bar a single entrance roundabout set to 'No Cars' Apparently everyone walks everywhere and dodges trucks all day.
Ya, I honestly don't know how you can even get into the 90%+ range. With seemingly perfect flowing traffic in my small city, I can get 86-87% max. I wonder what causes it to cap out?
@@JDalmasca traffic density is a measure of how long cars take to get from a to b compared to an empty road.... And heavy flow areas are considered busy because of all the cars there. Logically you just need more connecting roads to reduce traffic density, but more intersections causes congestion too.
4 lane one way systems through the entire city xD Bridges and intersections instead of normal T or cross junctions. So no traffic ever cross over eachother blocking traffic, enough lanes for all traffic so it never gets blocked up.
Hey, biffa. When you shift click a road to set the give way en masse, it'll do that on the roundabouts on the end, too. Always check to make sure it hasn't messed them up. That's probably why the one at 16:30ish was screwed up.
This one's a true fix. The creator did a fine job of setting things up - I get too lazy to ever get more than, say, 40k pops, but it's almost impossible to maintain control of everything once you move into multiple tiles. Well done on the fix, Biffa!
Following the Methods but still having problems? More roundabouts! 😁💚☕ Loving it! Also - every considered a collaboration special with a real city planner? I would love to see how your game techniques stand up fairly well to real world applications
I'm not a city planner. But he sometimes remove traffic lights on a busy road. That would be dangerous in real life. I would only do that on a 2-lane road. 4 lanes? If the road is not busy, Ok. Anything more than that, left turn only (left-hand traffic). Roundabouts for u-turn and right turn after a few intersections
I've seen that bug with Flabaliki where the traffic comes from outside the city, just to turn around and leave. He fixed it by doing an up and over loop road so they can turn around and leave without going into the city and disrupting traffic.
I think it might happen when you destroy an already built highway that normally channels traffic from one corner of the map to the other... when it can't find the original exit, it comes back to where it came from. Just a plausible theory, don't know if logic applies in this instance :D
@@naerbo19 yup.. Seeing yer city.. It's well built.. I had like 20% traffic once cuz i freaking just forgot to load a road pack.. And all my roads changed to random roads xD was fun 😂
@@unholyfox7299 I don't use modded roads except DLC roads. I use them in conjuction with public transport. Made 3 districs (industry, commercial, and residential) and connected it only by trains. Later I had to connect it by metro to not overextend my trains. Actually worked, but there are a maximum of 10 cars where there shouldn't be. Oh well.
I swear to God, when he was saying that the traffic was looping back on itself right in the beginning I thought he was going to make it a big roundabout.
I downloaded this map off your workshop page a few days ago and have been playing around with it. It's a really nice city once you get it working again.
I'm in the same boat. I don't even own this game and I don't plan on buying it because it definitely would take up a lot of my free time and I have other games to play... but I enjoy seeing those videos.
OMG. Totally gridlocked city! :O Difficult fix, for sure! But one can easily see the obvious problems: Too many cars for the amount of roads. So, new, larger main roads are missing. Also only connecting whole areas only to the highway simply does not work. More interconnections between areas are needed...
The main problem is having small streets connecting between maid roads. I find that having one or two entrances/exists for each neighbourhood separately is the perfect solution to keeping your traffic on the main roads, rather than the local streets
Love watching your fix videos of fan cities when they follow your advice and tips however miss small things and you fix it up. Is soothing to watch and im sure it is more calming to you 😂
Another traffic-soothing video to brighten my day! :D Apropos of needing those small 4-lane roads--which are great--I noticed at one point that the "industrial" roads that came with the DLC don't allow crossing the median! It's hard to see that but they don't. I traded those for the small 4-lane road and that fixed a lot of pain in my Industries DLC areas! Okay, maybe I was the only person who missed that... derp.
26:00 - while looking at the street traffic being good, we see some of the metros backing up. The simple stations can't handle three lines with lots of traffic.
Biffa for the next episode city fix challenge , use as much as possible underground moving , like highway's and ramps like 0:51 the ones that go up to be underground
Isn't there a higher height diffrence down instead of up. They need to slow more down if there is a higher height diffrence, but if you want pedestrian paths you can make either underground. I think underground roads have a higher height diffrence, but yeah. It would be nice to have som varied bypass lanes.
At 7:00 I believe the cars were despawning on the roundabout because you had not changed the lanes when you changed the direction of the one way road. Therefore on the roundabout the cars were unable to enter the loop as the lanes did not allow for it and every vehicle who wanted to enter the loop suddenly could not reach their destination anymore.
Hey Biffa, just a small correction on your one lane change. You need to do it in two layers both sides so that cars can switch two lanes through two nodes. So they go from lane 1 to lane 2 on the first node, then lane 2 to lane 3 on the second node. Then on the third and fourth node you do it the other way around.
haven't been playing strategy games since SimCity 2000 and Total Annihilation... but I watched this vid from beginning to end. fascinating. might wanna give the game a shot. cheers!
My experience with connecting the metro loops is that one needs to keep an eye on those stations. If the density of the trains in the loop is high enough every "infraction" from the connecting train will have a knock-on effect, throwing the timing and spacings off and causing backups that won't go away. Solution: never put more than 2 lines in one direction, in other words keep the actual stops from overlaping (applicable to busses too). May be trickiy if following the CW/CCW rule. Idealy one wouldn't use the connecting lines but make the loops "touch" instead.
A couple of reasons; realism, used to doing it, wanting to convert it to a city with sustainable economy (possibly turning off infinite money), or Biffa turned infinite money on (unlikely).
Even with infinite money you can still have a budget with a balance. I play with infinite money but I still try to keep myself in the positive. You still gain and lose money, you just have an infinite pool.
Hey Biffa, I have some advice with your roundabouts. I've noticed that you have a tendency to set the right lane to go off the roundabout and the other lanes to just keep going straight. I've noted that this is a bad practice with roundabouts. What I've done with a lot of my roundabouts is to set EVERY lane to be able to move off the roundabout at some point. This practice ensures that cars won't lane switch too often [edit|"AT ALL"] on a roundabout. So no inner lanes on a roundabout that can never exit, they're essentially pointless. Of course, this doesn't matter on roundabouts with little to basically no traffic on them but it's ideal on bigger or busier roundabouts. I'd honestly like to hear about how you prefer to set them up. Because I still don't 100% understand how you like to setup the lanes. Anyways cya m8! Have a good #biffaday!
Its stuff like this that made me sub to you biffa you took a persons city that had everything done right and the traffic was still bad and you made it work. I can just imagine my self at my odds end trying to fix my city following what you do and it still not working and honest to god thinking i need biffa to take a look at this.
Biffa the trucks using the roundabout and going all the way back up the highway was the lane management on the toll booth that you did, stopping them lane switching so they couldn't come off on the slip lane so the trucks were carrying on down to the roundabout to come all the way back up and then come off.
Another thing that could greatly help people with traffic is not building sprawling cities. Which means dont make a huge residential, business, industry, areas separated from each other. Mix them together. Use business area as a spacer for industrial section. Helps with noise pollution
7:12 Fixing traffic by having them all drive into the void 😂 The problem was the lane arrows -- they'd been manually touched before for "one goes off", so were only straight-on at the junction where things were coming in before. Upgrading the roads reset all the arrows, which is why it fixed it.
i have this city that had a population of 102k, my traffic flow was at 1% and my population fell to 58k. that was yesterday. i have worked all day now and have managed to get the traffic flow back to 76% and the population is now 106k. without you and your tips, biffa. it wouldn't have happened, thank you
@7:18, the first road in the round-about didn't allow to turn right, so it was impossible to enter. They were despawning since it didn't exist any path for them. You can see the arrow on the road only shows straight forward.
One thing that I do that I haven't seen elsewhere is to ban trucks from the inner lane(s) of highways with 3 or more lanes. It's a common practice on US highways and stops those silly one lane queues. Since trucks run at slower speeds than cars, traffic can clear faster. It also cuts down on trucks blocking traffic with multi lane changes that block the road.
At 17:00 when dealing with the toll booths I found to speed up traffic significantly you turn on the policy for the auto tolls and you set the speed limit on the toll to the same as the highway and it doesn't congest it up.
The biggest problem here is that cars driving on the right side should minimize doing left turns. Because they're basically crossing intersections that blocks other cars to move especially when there's traffic congestion
The issue with vehicles disappearing after upgrading/changing roads is an issue I occasionally get, basically somewhere in the city one of the nodes breaks which causes despawning with TMPE, you need to them run the broken node detector mod to find the broken node and fix it.
Using the small 4 lane roads in industry is great; you can use traffic manager to disable all turns at the end of the "stopping lane," so vehicles stopping for industry don't block through traffic
A challenge Bifa: could you fix a city feel like using TM:PE? It’s that I think it’s cheating to tell which nodes you can and when you can’t change lanes (since in real life that’s not possible, i.e. you take realism out). That is, building alternative roads, smoother intersections ...
Hey Biffa! Nice video as always! Did you check if there was manual lane management right after the booth and all the way along? might explain why they aren't using the first turbine, or second, to get into the city!
Yep, those circles of neverending doom (that's what I call them ;) ) can suddenly appear and then block a whole city. Getting rid of those is already above "basic" level.
I experienced something weird in my city.. Putting in a roundabout caused worse traffic! I've created a city that's just a big grid, divided into relatively small blocks, with a couple 4 lane roads going through the middle, both vertically and horizontally, meeting up in a crossroad. I don't have any roundabouts in the grid. But I noticed some traffic buildup around the big crossroad, and decided to try a roundabout. But that made everything 10 times worse! Now the cars seem to avoid the roundabout, and use the smaller 2-lanes going parallel with the 4-lane, which is just causing much larger buildup of traffic, because those roads of course has less capacity. I went back to before I created the roundabout, and this time I tried upgrading the 4-lane to a 6-lane, and something similar happened again! The cars seems to be avoiding the 6-lane (almost no traffic there at all) and instead use the small 2-lanes going parallel... I don't get it. This exact thing happened in another city, where as soon as I upgraded a road to 6-lane the cars turned off at the first opportunity and instead used other roads, with less capacity.. Anyone else experience this? I don't think I'm doing anything wrong.
07:30 i think the cars were despawning on the roundabout because of a lane arrow on he roundabout was saying straight on.. not 100% sure but i think thats what it was
A lot of the issues here where honestly road hierarchy issues with improper road sizes for a given application, (no offence to the owner btw, it's a fairly advanced concept and Bifa hasn't really done an adequate video on it, merely touched on it a little here and there across a lot of videos), plus a few little bits of roads configured weird.
RE: Why traffic doesn't react to changes - I think the game determines the path a vehicle will take at "x" distance from interchanges, and when we make major changes, like in the One Way situation in this video, only the vehicles that are outside the "x" distance actually see the change, and are able to make the new turn. I have seen this behavior a lot while modifying my Bunker city to compensate for changes .. :D
Most of this cities could be fixed by adding more connections to increase the alternatives for the cars to go from a to b. That way traffic would spread evenly instead of concentrating in those bottlenecks. More highways exits and entrances and more connections between districts (several minor roads for local commute will lighten the highway traffic for example). Then, you spend far less time doing "efficient" intersections.
7:13 I also get that sometimes, I think it may be a bug in trafic manager or it's interaction with other mods or assets. It usually goes away after some time, if not the clear traffic button usually fixes the issue for me, but I dislike that cause all my public transport respawns at the depots.
Have been looking for a new game to play. And after watching many videos from different people, this does look like a fun and challenging game, so Cities:Skylines it is! I have found Steam and plan on getting a few Mods from your list too. I have watched plenty of your videos, so I should end up with good traffic *lol*
There aren't any interdistrict roads except the highways. The city needs more connections between the districts and there need to be more access points in each district so you aren't funnelling everything through two or three lanes.
I would really like to see some changes to the Metro mechanics in the game. it may be available in some mod or other but I do not seem to be able to vary the depth of the lines so they can cross each other - also stations with an internal interchange to multiple platforms so that sims do not have to change via the street and multiple lines can have stops there without using the same track. London Underground manages it in real life !
I found this metro station on workshop that has two lines crossed. People use it as you described. I like it because it doesn't need metro mods. Station has it's own way of placing stops that you need to know, but once you learn those, it's not a big deal. It's called metro-V1 by Lost Lime.
It's impossible to reach 100%. The most you can have I guess must be around 98% or something in the very beginning with 0 citizens and no buildings lol. I was able to reach 90% and basically my third city was green except for 3-4 industry areas which of course were orange because of being busy. That with 250k citizens was more than enough for me and I was simply refusing to go beyond just to get 1-2% extra better. Following Biffa I could get those numbers because in my first city traffic was 48% and in the second one it was around 60%. Nicenew song for the before and after Biffa, I can't wait to hear what you put when we reach Christmas Holidays and stuff, maybe Santa with reindeers hahaha
All those no lane switching you discovered on the highway towards the end of why they were all driving down to the roundabout to turn around and come back. They couldn't change into the turning lane the whole way down the highway.
