IN STUDIO DEBATE: Is Marriage A Bad Deal For Men? - Pearl Davis Vs Trent Horn 

The "sex, silence, and sandwiches" stuff is just a saying in the red pill that means simple and non dramatic

@@DManCAWMasterNo, it means a silent and submissive sex doll, like in Islam. That’s why the Tates and Sneako converted.

Same!!! They have a unique way of looking at things. That’s why I like it when women speak up and challenge me. It helps me to be a better man and be a better Catholic

​@@nomadic_orthodox no it means not a masculine woman, whos obnoxious, goes on girls night out and sleeps with random dudes. its funny how OP says "she laughs at my stupid jokes" like hes homer simpson, which is a character made to make men look stupid and simps. and also, if she laughs at your stupid jokes, but dsnt give you sex, are you cool with that? nope. because Sex, silence and sandwiches come first, then you can focus on the small things like her laughing at you because you make stupid jokes.

@@vortexlight8387 Pearl is the most masculine woman in the podcast world.

That's why it's likely she'll never get married. If marriage is such a bad deal for men, shouldn't a woman who got a marriage proposal feel that much more grateful?

She is there to debate him not marry him. The topic of the debate is whether women in general are wife material, and not whether Pearl is.

Yeah she's not trying to marry him he's already married so she doesn't have to be submissive to him why is there supposed to be submissive to their husbands. This just proves that most people are more worried about having to follow the leader of their family then they are getting a husband

@@oldscorp yeah but she is bashing the modern woman nowadays and debating how they should be for marriage, relationships etc. yet acting like the complete opposite. As she loves to claim that women only offer sex and looks yet she does not have the looks and is expired like she would say (old)

@@gabby-ue8sh By that logic an oncologist should have his medical license revoked when diagnosed with cancer, or people should start smoking if a smoker advises them not to.

People she has influence with can benefit from this.

She speaks for tens of thousands of men. Trent lives in a bubble that is obsolete and ready to vanish, if I may use the phraseology of Saint Paul.

She's also massively inexperienced in the subjects she speaks on.

I don't understand why people keep debating her, either. It's the same wimpy soy boys that don't have data to refute her points. This is almost identical to the time when she wrecked Klavan.

@@pmaitrasm Yeah tens of thousands of men who don't know how to be men. No one taught them. And certainly Pearl is not really helping them, she is just pointing fingers to women who also don't know how to be women.

Love that

Pearl clearly sees marriage as finding a flesh mate in a worldly sense, not a soul mate in a spiritual sense. Marriage = materialism is her equation

Agreed. Especially with these stats being predominantly secular.

Also the concept that men and women are less moral and the law isn't fair therefore we should not do the right thing is odd to me. I'd rather have a struggling people in a struggling society to try to the right thing in the right way and maybe fail, rather than just fail harder and never even try to make marriage work.

Very well said.

well said

Bro decided to get married over a RU-vid video? 😂

Yayyy for marriage🤣🤣🤣

​@@felipetejeda7545 😂😂 Not quite. I was planning to go shopping today anyway, but watching this debate fired me up before I left

Congratulations to you and your future fiancé!!

Awesome! Marriage is awesome! Best thing ever❤

Pearl is overweight and not a Virgin. Let’s all think about that for a moment.

LOLL

👌😂

Pearl's literally an athlete that's in better shape than 90% of women

Ehh... She can get away with it since she's 6', which is pretty tall for a chick. If she were much shorter then you might have a point.

She doesn't like other women. Have a look at her tweets... The stuff she says is either from a place of bitterness, resentment, overall dislike, whatever... Or just pure rage baiting/engagement farming. Probably a mixture of both. She knows what she's doing because she appeals to a particular group of men who will always follow her content based on some of the things she says.

That is very sad.

OR perhaps the way women are behaving today is horrible. 15 % of women under 35 in us are sex workers

Pearl is known to very sexist towards women, she says she’s not sexist, but every time she talks about women, she degrades them

>women >dignity kek

I’ve had coworkers that have been in marriages like that and it makes people bitter.

I like how Pearl's like (paraphrasing) "men don't like it when women are constantly interrupting them and being condescending" in the same breath she condescends and constantly interrupts Trent.

She hangs out with party guys who are red pill hedonists.

@@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024well she doesn’t like him…..so….

She’s not talking about how she feels, she’s talking about what actually happens.

I’m glad he said it. Her smile said she knows she does but she’s a liar and couldn’t admit it.

Could’ve sworn he asked James White that before

Trent horns is a simp

@@grcreppsI’m crying 😂

@@okorokingsley2840for the Good Lord🙏🏻 amen

Yeah she’s not telling the whole story. I think she sees super rich guys getting divorced and having 10-50k a month alimony payments (definitely a little absurd, but the law wasn’t written for the 0.01%) and just kinda uses that to blanket the whole population. I think the reality is that most divorces are reasonably amicable and not insanely expensive, but obviously splitting finances can cause issues for both parties. Both are probably worse off after divorce. Although there are some nasty divorces where one or both parties really try to go after the other, and those get very expensive

lol what? women get half the money in case of divorce, and they can divorce at any time for no reason. that means they are paid to leave, because leaving = getting paid and she can leave at any time, regardless of cheating on him, denying sex, mistreating him, or whatever. effectively, she is not commited nor bound to anything, she can literally do whatever. signing the marriage paper literally just gives the power to steal half his money. thats it. she has no legally enforced responsibilities at all inside that contract, only the man. and you are lying, women all leave with more than they are coming. the person who pays less bills and earns less money necessarily gains money through divorce because of asset division, so its physically impossible for her to not get paid for leaving,

Because she’s an idiot. I don’t think she actually has the intellectual capacity to interpret statistics.

My ex-wife was destroyed. I looked at everyone and questioned her decision because it seemed insane. Although some time has passed, I can assure you that things are still not good for her.

I remember listening to a lot of men complain about how much they paid in child support, yet they had a new truck and new bass boat parked in their driveway. The divorce didn’t seem to adversely affect their finances - aside from the fact that they went into debt on depreciating assets.😂

Deranged how ? Shw is a terrible debater, but that's why trent picked her. Also winning a debate doeant mean your correct.

@@jasonthomas9319 I don’t typically engage with Incels, so have a blessed day and please don’t shoot up an office or school. Also, I think you meant “she” and you definitely should have said “you’re” .

@@jasonthomas9319you’re *

@@JewelCPeach Damn you got me there.

@@jasonthomas9319 she*

Not at the expense of non-repentance and non compliance to duty ad honor

Incorrect. You marry someone with similar core values and believe that God is at the center of their marriage.

​@@mattsharkey8437 sure, but you're still marrying someone who is a sinner and who may or may not agree with you 100% on everything.

@@Carolinefdq I don't care. If you don't have the same core values and believe in my faith, then no dice.

If that was the case why did catholic marriage rates declined? Or a lot of guys dropping out of society? It does matter other wise Paul would not advice others to be equally unyolked. Come on guys let's work with reality here. Men nor good women are asking for a perfect spouse there are serious problems that need to be addressed.

5 talking points from misogynists or from studies that she's deliberately or out of ignorance misinterpreted.

It's because she doesn't believe what she says, she just repeats and follows where the redpill goes. She's a grifter and has been trying find fame/success on the internet for years. The redpill was the only one that worked. Even the redpill community hates her, because they know she's just faking it lmao

I seriously wonder if she actually believes what she’s saying, or she knows she has cornered the female red piller market and if she went traditional or even moderate she would become irrelevant.

@@meglukes willful blindness.

@@meglukes I think you're onto something. She has brand-marketed moping.

how convenient when the law and culture is systematically discriminatory towards men .

He should've just said "marriage isn't a transaction, it's a relationship."

@@lunalee3021 it IS a transaction though. thats the problem. its a practical contract that ensures a transaction. calling it non transactional is a way to gaslight men into accepting onesided exploitation. if a woman does not agree that relationship implies a transactional nature, she is not fit for a relationship and is either looking for an unfair deal, or is thinking about relationships as something to provide feelings of dopamine via feelings of "love", which in both cases, is selfish, self serving, and the complete opposite of cooperation and symbiosis, which is what family should be.

@@sshreddderr9409 Sorry I look at it through a religious lens, not a legal one. You make it sound like something unappealing to be avoided.

@@lunalee3021 Im talking about legal marriage. if you are just talking about being married under the church without any government involvement, then thats not what I or any redpiller is talking about. we are talking about legally enforced asset division, alimony etc. in combination with no fault divorce.

Even in the middle of the break when Matt was promoting lol it almost made me want to turn it off.

Hahaha!! 😂😂

lol

I don't know how he does this. Half the times, I need to move forward the video when she speaks

Lol! Love this comment!😅

This is the best comment I have seen

She will never find a husband

Excellent observation ❤

True😣

clowns. obedient to their husband, blind hate it was even explained by trent

😅

I really understand the significance of your words, and I genuinely want to find happiness too. I have a partner, and even though we're not together right now, I can't imagine life without her; my love for her is strong. I miss her a lot, and I'm fully committed to bringing her back. We've explored different ways, like therapy, to mend things.

Saying farewell to someone you love dearly is never easy, but in my case, I had the assistance of a spiritual counselor who saved my marriage from falling apart. Her name is Suzanne Ann Walters

Your guidance is well-received. I'll quickly search for her online. Thank you. I'm optimistic that taking this approach will yield results for me as well; her absence is keenly felt

I'm 18 currently so I have much time😂. But way to go sir!💫 God bless you and your marriage ☦️♥️

happy for you guys!

But you evaluate things based on statistics

@@DManCAWMaster If you marry one person out of the 25% of great people out of all people, you don't have to think about the other 75% ever again, or you can denounce people altogether because "you can't take your chances," and be single forever because you're too cowardly to get to know someone.

Trent is the one who only wanted to talk in statistics.

Most of what she says isn't a statistic it's just anecdotal evidence based on people she chooses to interview or surround her self with. The actual statistics show she is factually wrong on lots of things. She basically just talks and thinks what she says is true and maybe she believe it but just cause she keeps repeating the same wrong talking points doesn't make what she says is true. If what she said was true more marriages would end in divorce, men wouldn't be remarrying after divorce and many other things that she was factually wrong on.

@@taramccreary8997 I am not defending Pearl. I think she is a horrible debater. But what you just said is also just stuff that you think/believe. And you also can't prove it with any statistic.

Sending prayers your way!

I'm so glad you have a great woman, and a beautiful family to keep you going.

After one year of marriage my husband had stage 4 cancer. I took six months off my job to take care of him at home. It was very trying time and he was very nasty to me during that period. He pulled through and is ok. He then had a flesh eating bacteria and then a speech impediment and I was the one who noticed in all these issues something was off and advocated for tests and things from doctors. Till today he says if not for his wife he would be gone from this world. Meanwhile I see it as when you love someone and care about them this is simply what life is about.

@@carinamarie2663 yeah that wont work....

@@serenity1255 - And you are VERY rare for a woman. That is both a compliment to you as well as a very sad observation of women in general.

If marriage was so good why is the rate so so so low

​@@freddyfang8842you must not be married lol

She is the epitome of the "other girls" memes that were rampant in the 2010's. "Look, look... I'm not like other girls, I'm special."

@@andrear1599 answer this question if marriages was so good why men not getting married?

@@freddyfang8842 where are you relying your stats on? And when you say Men i think were talkng about two different types. No disrespect but Actual Men with high Value have a different level of maturity,standard,intelligence and morality that are seeking a family and companionship . Naturally in them they feel the need to hunt provide and protect their family . Women who are also high value have their own role. Im not referring to the ones who are bitter, jumping from one person to the other with a different outlook on loyalty of union and rather spend their time passing judgments on marrietal unions without even living it themselves. Every one has the free will to live the way they choose . If marriage is not for you for w.e reason than honestly no judgments . But i find it interesting whem someone is not married ,without kids ,kids with different partners,or chooses a life of promiscuity feel like they somehow have any ounce of a knowledge of a married life

It's funny that she doesn't see that by her standards she is also not marriage material.

@@tsitsi-flora7749I wonder if she’s projecting *because* she doesn’t think she’s worthy of marriage or a good man? She’ll never quit “reverse-simping” (even if her husband asks her to), she’ll never be objectively more beautiful as time goes on, she can’t argue, she doesn’t understand business, she believes men only want sex, sandwiches, and silence.. poor woman.

I think that that is the point.

right?

Why does everyone think this is something smart? 🤣 I’m not on her side but this is like 80% of the anti-Pearl team comments.

I like how Pearl's like (paraphrasing) "men don't like it when women are constantly interrupting them and being condescending" in the same breath she condescends and constantly interrupts Trent.

Imagine being successful, happily married and with three kids, just to be called a "simp" by a woman who makes a profit from the attention of lonely men on the Internet.

exactly!!! it takes that level to converse with the evilness in her arguments. the devil loves to irritate us.

@@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024 see tho, she demostrated her point tho, wasn't Trent visibly bother LOL

Some people say he looked annoyed and because of that he’s too emotional. I’m like what!?!? Having someone interrupt you mid sentence just you can loose your train of thought IS ANNOYING. He’s a guy, not Gandhi.

You should look into Dr. Peter Kreeft then and soon I will be saying welcome home!

Scott Hahn is an amazing source as well! God Bless and good luck with your research in the Catholic faith!

Yes, he does. It's one of the reasons I like watching him so much. Gavin Ortlund (who Trent has debated, hosted by Matt actually,) does the same. I like that he always tries to represent the other persons beliefs in a way they would actuaĺy recognise and agree with. Trent takes care with this too and they both make a distinction between doctrine and official teaching and how the laity actually practice. So many Christian youtubers don't make an effort to do this and I think charity, honesty and integrity demand this so I love seeing it in those two guys. Trent is going to wipe the floor with Pearl here, (respectfully of course!) Tbh I think it's beneath him but it's those who follow Pearl, the redpillers that he's trying to reach, not convince her so it's worth it I guess!

He did not steelman Pearl here. To steelman her argument would be to admit that she has valid points about marriage being a risk. He did not do that.

@@braedenh6858Admission is conceding. There would be no debate. 🙄

she realized it and rebuked t by saying "men, not simps".

Before you want men to get legally married, remove alimony and division of assets laws.

​@@vortexlight8387 This debate was between Trent and Pearl; a man and a woman. The man was the more rational one over the woman grifter simping for men.

Because she excuses and condones men cheating and says women need to just get over it/they're the ones at fault if they choose to divorce for that reason.

@@SJ-ru4ej If God's creative will is free, then: "God is not obliged to create every individual" and if that is true, no one or nothing forces God to create: *God freely chooses to create those he wishes to create, he creates knowing that some will be damned and others will be saved. God therefore has a free decision not to create those who he knows will not accept him, and yet, God wants to create them even knowing that they will end up eternally in hell suffering torment*, because that torment and suffering shows the glory of God, which is better than not create them and them avoiding the suffer with fire that never goes out. Just like God did not wish to forgive the angels who sinned and did not offer them redemption. God decides who He creates, who He saves and who He forgives and who He allows to suffer eternally everything emanates from God. God did not forgive the angels who sinned, but cast them into hell and left them in darkness, chained and kept for judgment. 2 Peter 2:4

Trent does a better job but Knowles was conpletely stupid when debated Pearl.

Michael Knowles said he'd let his wife cheat😂😂😂 and you guys are really fans

I am not native speaker. What flamed means. I only know Knowles was completly exposed as a feminist simp clown whem he said women can be whores and thats not a red flag.

Where did Trent ever demonstrate the causality between marriage and happiness?

She's been demonetized for months. She DARES to argue against Wahmanism.

I like how Pearl's like (paraphrasing) "men don't like it when women are constantly interrupting them and being condescending" in the same breath she condescends and constantly interrupts Trent.

Accurate.

​@dreamingmusic3299 that's why she gotta rage bait to get bitter men's cash.

@@MilahanPhilosophersCorner - Well done making fun of people's tragedies. How ... Christian ... of you.

I just wished he had moderated better. Pearl interrupting every 2 seconds, laughing at his opponent and having no manners needed more corrections and Trent should have gotten some extra time because of that.

​@@MicaTuHermanaMayorYeah, she definitely interrupted far, far, too much, but to be fair Matt did give Trent more time for his closing statement, and Trent was pretty good at telling her to not interrupt him, himself.

Unfortunately, I think Matt was the big letdown in this debate. Very poorly moderated. Massive missed opportunity.

Man said it for us all

@@Danboy0001 I kinda disagree, I think Matt did a great job as a moderator, I think the issue was just that Pearl rambled and wasted her own time monologuing rather than engaging with the debate, she is however able to do that during her time if she chooses to do so, it obviously doesn't really contribute to a meaningful debate and is going pretty much guarantee that she loses the debate, but that isn't the moderators fault.

That's what I thought watching! I need to learn from him. His patience goes a long way when speaking to people like this.

Because he’s in his feelings and not rational.

You should see his debate on Whatever with destiny where destiny began to justify bestiality. Trent, completely justified, was rather annoyed and called him insane lol

@@folofus4815he lost his patience with destiny on the abortion debate too, can’t blame him cuz destiny constantly weasels around

Yes, annoyed and it seemed like he was in disbelief at how dumb everything she said was.

Her positions have only gotten more extreme over the few years she’s had any type of social media presence, yet she’s still single. Why isn’t she getting followed around all day with proposals? She’s masculine, loud, a boss babe, not a virgin, prioritizes a career with men who work under her. Based on her whole demeanor here, I just don’t see her being that quiet, obedient wife she demands women to be who’s going to cook and say “yes dear” all day long.

100 percent!

She is smart girl

There’s a reason they only invite Pearl to these debates. Andrew Wilson could easily argue her positions and win against Trent but again. There’s a reason Pearl is the only one invited.

I don’t think Andrew is the best representative, either. He married a woman who already had kids with 2 other men and he made her take a DNA test when she got pregnant again.

Yep. Crazy. Train wreck on her behalf and she didn't even realize it

Bingo

Because on average, the husband has greater capabilities to be a consistent protector and provider in the long term compared to the wife. Being obedient to the husband will make it easier for the wife to be protected and provided for. It can be a simple survival tactic based on quid pro quo.

Because it would be the only possible incentive for a man to invest and commit to a woman. Even without a Christian ethical system, you will still have a basic trading of obligations. Stripping away any ethical duties, only leaves trades. What do I get out of this, and what do you get? Adding back in the Christian ethic though, and modern women actually become way worse. If modern men held women to a Christian ethical standard before marriage, less than 5% would be marriageable. Meanwhile, the State doesn't care about even one feature of covenantal marriage, and has literally defined out ALL of the features Catholics would consider foundational to marriage. Add these things together and no one can possible make an argument for why anyone, especially not Catholic men, should participate in the State's marriage farce.

@@PaulLeEtudiant but most men don’t provide and protect anymore nor do they want to. Our culture doesn’t teach that any longer and many women out earn their husbands now and have higher level careers. Only traditionally minded Christian men see the value in this anymore. Marriage really only makes sense if viewed a the sacrament that it is where the women submit and obey and the men provide and protect. Outside the lenses of this it doesn’t really make sense. Where is the motivation to stay and fight for a relationship if one’s main goal is their own personal happiness? If neither party goes into a marriage understanding this it’s most likely going to fail. Most don’t that’s why the divorce rate is so high.

Because she's a simp.

Pearl doesn’t have a Biblical point of view..that’s her problem. She understands the rot of the culture.

@@mraemartinez she knows there is a rot but like all pagans offers a false solution.

​@mraemartinez Pearl makes her money making men less interested in marriage or finding a woman by presenting the idea that all women are bad. She IS the rot in the culture

Why should a secular man get married?

@@Emmanuel_EEE nothing, secular men should do what pagans do, live the good old hedonistic life. The problem is that pearl claims to be Christian, Catholic for that matter.

Pearl said she can't give a straight answer; but she wanted Trent to give a simple yes or no answer to her vague questions. She's not willing to offer grace to Trent but wants grace from him.

I think it’s more out of naivety or ignorance.

Did she officially leave the Catholic Church? I know she identified as a Catholic within the last 6 months to a year.

She lives off the attention she gets from saying these things. She isn’t interested in seeing other people’s points of view, she is just making money. This is her job, this is her whole shtick. It has to be quite the conversion.

I agree.👍😩💭

@@dbbiggs1042 No. She didn't. This commenter just thinks they're God.

I’d love to hear what the women in her family think. Do they all see themselves as the good kind of women or are they offended? We’re they terrible role models? Idk, I’m curious.

​@@caseyk.1386 She said her parents were married! I imagine it was a good home. I also saw in a twitter post from a former friend of hers that she changed her personality considerably when she realized she could build a following off of what she says now. I think she has a sister too?

I think it started off in a good way but like a lot of things became extreme when the money started rolling in. It’s kind of become her persona now.

You, yourself, are projecting.

The reason you see pearl as low-worth is because you see yourself that way and is projecting it onto her. It's sad anyone could comment so poorly.

*don't*

Thats stupid comment. There are 2 million men lining up to marry her

The law doesn't say that indeed. Which is the entire point. The law doesn't include a single feature of Catholic marriage so why are all the Catholics participating in State marriage? 'Women should obey their husbands' is not just a Biblical argument. The only reason a man should protect and provide for a woman is that she is obedient to him. That is a purely secular quid pro quo as well.

She's going to be embarrassed in 10 years when she wakes up and sees how dumb she was.

its biological, hence why religion adopted it, not the other way around. trend said "the man has to provide" where in secular law does it say men have to provide? your own logic used against you.

​@@vortexlight8387it isn't biological at all. Men don't do any of the protecting or providing. Women die more in the hands of men than they are protected by them

@@Nish.05 Woman don't meed any protection or providing, biologically women are disposable sex after childbirth

Especially because she thinks that maybe the Church has elevated Mary to a higher status than she needs to be. That's a big thing in my mind.

This is not an argument of religion. It is an argument of marriage in general including secularists based on empiricism not moralism

Pearl is a Catholic

Why is the Church feminizing men?

In west marriage is a secular contract which heavily punishes men if they dont entertain women. But still chrstians forcing secular men to marry. No wonder Christianity is keep declining.

Never married before. I’m so mad I can’t even type straight. Lol

All she's done is talk to divorced men who've been hurt/the extreme cases of a man not seeing his kids for years because of a word and nothing more, being taken for half etc (According to Pearl). She's not in any type of field. And she never gets both sides of the story.

Pearl talks about bad behaviour in women. A hugely needed convo in society after 60 years of awful feminism. In which way she exposed you ?

@@jorge-7121 I have no problem with her talking about the vices of women. I do have a problem with her acting as though all women are bad and all men are good. That is exactly what feminists do in the reverse.

​@@kes12able True, Pearl is a feminist for men. Pearl having a bunch of dudes following her proves that men could be suckered by con artists just as easily as women can.

God bless

Exactly. All she does is regurgitate 'red pill' nonsense. Not sure why she's even on this show.

Actual love is something she has never experienced.

She so degenerate it hurts I hope she gets a life

Agreed.

YES!!! Drove me bananas that 15 pounds is suddenly obese!

Pearl's weight has ballooned in the past couple of years. She can't even meet her own standards.

She probably lost a man to a woman who was overweight, probably because that overweight lady wasn't a total b!tch

@@empresspoobahyeah she’s cringe but Trent’s egalitarian talking points were way worse

@@Metanoia000 I wholeheartedly disagree. Pearl was pulling stats out of her arse and could not back them up. "I spoke to 1000 women blab blab." Same tired BS she always comes up with. Meanwhile he quotes a study with hundreds of thousands. He smoked her. I know in theory that egalitarianism is probably a pipe dream, but it is something we should strive for, not mock

She is to much in the internet and talking about OF Girl, not a regular girl in RL

Give her time... If you're Gen Z you haven't been married long

Silence …but she can’t shut up.

These guys don't believe women is a human just like them. They are dehumanizing women so much.

It’s weird how rad fems and red pillers disagree on everything but this is they have 100% agreement on.

Based Kermit pfp

She's admitted to this in past videos. She's talked about having focused on all the wrong things in her early adult life, because that's what western culture trains young women to do. Open your eyes and examine western culture from an objective standpoint.

The modern woman is not marriage material. Most women are not marriage material.

@@mambofuego5101maybe but then neither are most men

Yes she is. Her only standards are: 1) no tattoos, 2) no Debt, 3) not a high “body count”

do you see something in pearl that you see in your own mother ?

Exactly, I have said this many times. Pearl is the embodiment of the devouring mother, that person you run to for validation whether you deserve it or not

And she also should encourage women to do better. It goes both ways.

@@lvup7907did this comment hurt your feelings because it was true?

​@@lvup7907 We can play this game ad infinitum though. Why did you assume he was thinking about his own mother? What does that projection say about your relationship to yours?

So I have to ask, why is a happily married man debating with a single woman dedicated to demeaning marriage, about the merits or non-merits of marriage?? 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️ It’s impossible for her to know anything!!

At this point simp = not a misogynist. Women can be misogynists just like men can be misandrists, ask a male feminist.

@@MoniqueGonzalez1212 yeah, I think that it's a mistake to give her the attention that she clearly is after. But to play the devil's advocate, maybe it's because she's popular and has a large audience that needs to hear a better message than what they get with her.

@@meglukesTrent literally said it’s unreasonable to not want to date a porn star so many things he said were INSANE 😂😂 stop simping

@@cfbanno she’s correct on many things! Trent said men watching porn is the same thing as a women being a porn start that’s not the same standard 😂😂😂

You know the difference between simps and pick-mes? Pick-mes actually get picked by men. Simping turns off women almost completely.

@@user-fl9ps8xf2y Pearl has yet to be picked

@@tomasrocha6139 She actually has a boyfriend and probably 100,000 men who would wife her. Only she since she out earns them she is likely to refuse marriage because just like she says “it’s crazy to sign a contract the other party is paid to break”. It very rare to see rich women marry significantly poorer men because they might end up like Kelly Clarkson. I guarantee Clarkson doesn’t take that risk again. Only we want to demand the typical man be even more reckless considering over 90% of the time it’s them paying alimony to women who left in no fault divorce cases.

@@JacobsNews ?

@@tomasrocha6139 Sorry, the guy seems more about feelings than facts . He said corn stars are the same as guys who watch corn . Marry girls with stds and used a study from 1993 for dating. She had to explain that most people under 30 meet online

Yes, he should have reminded her that MEN DECIDE THEIR STANDARDS- NOT PEARL! She is not in charge of the standards. Some men have married women she thinks are overweight or porn stars, etc. And she is angry about that, since no one picked her.

This sums it up. She is like a politician, using dog whistles as arguments rather than someone who cares about truth. There is no point of her.

And she laughs and attacks.....

She can't find a man so therefore men shouldn't get married

That's one layer of the hypocrisy. There's a second (at least a second) layer as well: Pearl (paraphrasing): "men don't like it when women are constantly interrupting them and being condescending" in the same breath she condescends and constantly interrupts Trent.

That's one thing that annoys the mess outta me about her. She does the same thing that the 'modern woman'. Talks down on woman for doing exactly what she herself does lol

@@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024, I suppose Trent should stick to his monologues because his devotees are not comfortable seeing him facing uncomfortable questions.

It seems to me that she's making it her business to blame all women for her lack of ability to get a husband.

To be completely fair, she totally caught Trent justifying low standards. Trent is right on marriage, but men need to grow a backbone and tell their wives it's not cute to be super overweight and unhealthy. Women need to do the same things with their husbands. Oue low stabdards for physical appearance are a huge issue

@@sivad1025 No one ever said that it is okay to be unhealthy or overweight. Trent deals with that when he is talking about virtue.

@winstonvontoast6163 Trent said it was "shallow" to ask your spouse to fix it though. Catholics are usually good about defending the importance of carnal experience which makes it more frustrating that Trent wanted to downplay physical appearance

​@sivad1025 I think Trent's point was to not make beauty the be-all end-all. No one is going to maintain their youthful appearance forever. Trent is saying to look beyond the superficial. He is not saying lower your standards and settle. He's saying, "Don't have unrealistic expectations." We are not cartoon characters. We age and change.

There was never proof that those men werent already going to be successful prior to the marriage women could be selecting men who already have those traits attributing it to marriage is throwing a dart and painting a target around it

@@user-bl8sr7xf5z If all you care about is money then go by that standard alone. It's shallow and meaningless. Marriage offers a whole lot more than more money. Though married men do work harder and garner more assets. Assets being a good wife, children, inlaws, more community, longer life, better quality of life and all the other things that Trent mentioned. You've clearly been snow jobbed by the poison pill bowel movement, but it's built on falsified stats, flagrant omissions and outright lies.

Who pays for those mistakes and bears the responsibility of these failed rigged modern day marriages…..

@@user-bl8sr7xf5zActually, this is not true. We have studies that have done multivariate analysis that account for the marriage itself, and which show that the marriage is a meaningful factor for success in the workplace.

@@user-bl8sr7xf5z I think it’s a combination. Women choose men with potential, and men with potential often perform better when they have a wife and family to motivate them.

your a child with a keyboard

​@@lvup7907 One should learn proper spelling of common words before attempting to correct others.

You should ​@@LauraBeeDannon

​@@ZwarriorZYou need to return to kindergarten. You can't even acknowledge perfect English when you see it.

@@LauraBeeDannon Agreed, and you should go on a diet.

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She said men are logical but later on said the men who get married after divorce don’t make logical decisions when it comes to love. She can’t keep up with her own statements. She’s a joke.

Its very logical for men to lie about their state of affairs today when women literally have a gun to their heads via the state.

@@SJ-ru4ej The joke is when you think that's her contradicting herself. It isn't. It's not a contradiction to say most men are logical, and then when trent pulls people that are obvious OUTLIERS to say they aren't being logical.

@@a-atheist I don't think he's talking about outliers. He was able to cite statistics, Pearl can't. "I'm a woman, I know what we pick" "Lol women gain weight within the first 5 years of marriage" (Which is usually when kids happen). Neither of those are arguments.

An unmarried woman and never married woman can only look at marriage from the perspective of a single woman... which is why she thinks a man is only interested in sex and silence. That's a bachelor not a husband... Similar to single college kids who argue for abortion.

Pearl isn't a debater, she's a talk show host.

This should literally be top comment

It's funny you mention sampling bias. Trent is the one who uses a survey of STILL MARRIED men to argue that marriage makes men happier. Pearl pointed out that his stats about men being healthier and more successful in a marriage could also be based on sampling bias, since women prefer to marry healthy, successful men. He had absolutely no answer to that. Embarrassing on his part.

@@discussingsplinterlands7728 he can't help that you didn't comprehend his answer. Trent addressed that argument by saying at the very least marriage didn't make those men unhappy ergo, at the very least, marriage cannot reasonably be said to take happiness away, that's the argument. His surveys are massive, the idea that all those men were happy, handsome and successful is just ridiculous. Most men are just average like most women, they're not exceptional by definition. Multi level population level surveys with hundreds of thousands of randomized participants in a category is not a sampling bias, she just has an unproven explanation hypothesis. Even amongst divorced men, the majority go on to marry again hence they did not perceive marriage itself to be a bad deal. Pearl's only retort to this is that those men are irrational in her view. Pearl's sampling bias is her citing her interviews as evidence for a wider phenomenon when she specifically interviews a subsection of men with a specific experience, that's a blatant sampling bias. It would be like me interviewing a bunch of people suing hospitals about their experience with doctors and acting like that was representative of the average person visiting a hospital or if I interviewed a bunch of women who were beaten by their husbands about how violent men are and used that as evidence of the average man being violent.

@@Hearth123 He is talking about a survey of STILL MARRIED men. If you take out everybody who's marriage has failed, of course you will be left with more people who are not massively unhappy with their marriage. It's not difficult to understand. That's the same as if Pearl would refer to a study of only divorced men and take those results to speak for all men who ever got married. That would be equally ridiculous. I am not defending Pearl, btw. She is really bad at debates and bad at arguing. I am just saying that Trent did a pretty bad job.

Believe it or not she’s only like 27

@Dewny1651 oh wow. My apologies to her. I thought she was older.

@@Dewny1651 Okay that's really sus because me and my sisters are in our 20s and we look nothing like that. I mean she really has a lot of crinkles. I'm not being mean at all, I just can't believe it. In your 20s you just don't look like pearl.

⁠@@monkey6207maybe it is because she is overweight, not a virgin, can’t get a man, probably doesn’t have much sex and isn’t married. Lol. She is the red flag she warns men about, must be stressful 😂

@@monkey6207 I dunno, man. Some people just don't age as gracefully. There was one patient (a regular) I once had at the hospital I worked. You'd easily say mid 50s based on appearance, but she was actually only mid 30s.

She’s giving 99% of all viewers contempt with her attitude.

True, however it is a debate, so i'm not surprised she subconsciously takes an aggressive/masculine approach.

Cool now refute her arguments

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It's a debate, it's going to be contentious. The rules for the cross examination explicitly allow interrupting. In that situation, if you don't interrupt your opponent can stall until your time is up. Would you have the same problem if a man were doing this to Mr Horn?

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Yeah, that is good point, but he lost the whole debate, because simply there is no objective reason for men to marry.

until your wife FEELS like divorcing you and you will be stripped by the government.

@@vortexlight8387you’ve obviously never been married or in a relationship with a woman

@@jeantanamohe's probably divorced

@@vortexlight8387your 10 years ago bro. stop watching red pill and go outside

@@vortexlight8387okay guy because you know all about it 🙄🙄🙄

What is even funnier is all the people who think Trent won.

@@a-atheist it’s pretty clear he did. I think Pearl did a good opening statement, but it went downhill from there. She lost on the actual argument as well as just being a debater in general. Her whole argument about why men shouldn’t marry is so superficial and just doesn’t apply to a great deal of women.

​@@a-atheist imagine telling the world you are agree with snake girl like pearl

Nope. It's a sin to be fat. It is dishonoring our bodies.

So then no factors for sexual attraction should ever be used to any party then, correct? People should just be coupling up randomly without regard for how attractive they find the other person. Since, all women care about height, that would make all women shallow and un-Christian. I bet you have never once criticized a woman who says she likes tall men, or a woman who says she wants a man who makes good money, or who wants a man she finds attractive. Only men get called out on their preferences, never women.

​@@shawn4110wooooooooooooooosh Men who think like this aren't marriagable anyway, because they have no grasp on what it means to be in a marriage, where you love and will the good of your spouse. Having a preference isn't shallow. Having a hardline expectation of another person that they need to adhere to for life, based on what you think looks hot, is shallow.

@@makethereaperfearyou Who cares if it is shallow? People are shallow. Not one requirement women have for men is not shallow. Height, build, facial attractiveness, education, status, wealth.. It's all just shallow. Every single human on earth can easily stay in shape, man or woman. People are just lazy and refuse to work on themselves. Stop pretending that being a healthy weight is an insurmountable challenge. It is literally easy to do. Marriage is more than 'love', that is a nonsense modern talking point. 'Love is love' is the argument that people make for gay marriage. Marriage is about duty. You owe your spouse and have obligations to your spouse. One of them is remaining sexually attractive to them, and remaining sexually interested to and in them. Modern women have abandoned all of the duties they have in marriage, and so marriage is a farce. If men who have a weight preference are not marriageable, then no women are marriageable since all of them have a height preference. If men had to hit the gym to maintain their height, you can bet women would be writing articles as the day is long about how men need to step up and stop letting themselves become manlets. Maintaining attractiveness is just one area women have failed in. They have also failed in ALL other areas as well. Not one duty women had a hundred years ago is present in the average modern woman today.

Um hello, what does Christianity say about gluttony and sloth!

Are they? What about men who fail to launch and live with their parents? Or maybe men who can't control their lusts or anger? When it comes to men being marriageable, even Trent was quick to point out that 'Men must become marriageable'. Yet, when it comes to women, it is anathema to point out any requirement for them to be marriageable. If there are men who are not marriageable, it must be true that there are women who are not marriageable. If that population of women is large, then the only possible conclusion is that a large population of men should, by definition, never marry. The most basic requirement for women to be marriageable that persisted for thousands, if not millions, of years was being a virgin. Now that represents less than 4% of the women in the West. The Christian's, who literally have that requirement codified into their ethical system, handwave it away, yet, ask any Christian man or woman if a 'guy who lives with his parents and works fast food' is 'marriageable', and all of them will say no. You are attempting to point out a double standard, but unless you agree that 96% of women are 'unmarriageable' then you can't claim that any men are.

If they’re unapologetically persistent in that behavior, they are unmarriageable. It’s not just prostitution either. It’s masturbation and pornography as well. Pearl will never say that, though. It’s always the woman with her

@@Archangel251 Not only do women watch porn and masturbate (the female sex toy industry is a 20 billion dollar business), a large number of women read fantasy romance novels where they imagine themselves swept off their feet by a billionaire philanthropist to get off while being married to the local plumber. If you think watching porn is a marriage disqualifier, then you must also agree that everything a modern woman does is equally disqualifying - women show off their body in everyday fashion and on Instagram, sleeping with men they aren't married to, lusting over shirtless men in action movies, etc. The debate is not over whether men good and women bad, the debate is whether women are worth committing to. Even if men are not worth committing to either, that would just mean that neither party should be getting married, and Pearl would still be correct. Pearl did not say women should not have preferences. The problem is the double standards for who can have preferences. If a woman says no porn, totally acceptable to society. If a man says no dressing like a stripper, then it is misogyny. If a woman says she only dates tall men, completely fine. If a man says he only dates thin women, again misogyny. on and on down the line it goes.

​@Archangel251 if those men aren't marriage material society will let them know. Women..... not so much

@@art-gx7qp nope. Can’t tell any woman what’s wrong with her anymore

And she totally misses the mark of why women might not want to get married. It's not because of the men or because the men don't want them. Marriage is just actually much harder for women since they give up their whole body. Like it's not fun, it's a sacrifice, and yeah good comes from it, but it's much less exciting to go through that for women. Men do not have as much physical consequence.

Lol, uve have already surrendered marriage to the secular state, and the Protestant legacy😊

Women must never be held accountable.

@@Mikethemerciless11 And exactly how did Pearl hold women accountable in this debate? LOL

And Pearl for defending men against a man

Before you want men to get legally married, remove alimony and division of assets laws.

Horn and Knowles picked their opponents wisely, as Ben Shapiro often does. There are scads of MGTOW men on YT who would have loved to debate Horn on this topic but he wouldn't dare.

@adrianmizen5070 why? Have they been as big on youtube and asked for a debate?

​@@adrianmizen5070 MGTOWS never go their own way and are usually very sick people

​@@LauraBeeDannonAndrew Wilson has called everybody out and he's got a large following and he's married

She’s a outcome of feminism

Sadly I do know two men who thinks like her.

Same thing really

She's merely anti-feminist which is actually the same thing. Rejection of the truth.

That's bc everything she's saying is feminist

Also, both of their arguments were bad. Both of the debaters couldn’t articulate the other’s position. They both talked over each other and repeated themselves. Anyone from the streets could destroy their arguments. Less people are getting married because the family has been destroyed by secular culture. The majority of people in this wicked generation has become incapable of marriage. That doesn’t mean marriage is bad. That is like saying, becoming a Navy Seal is bad because most people are incapable.

Or even after pregnancy! Pregnancy is a HUGE thing for your body to take on. It would be incredible if you could maintain the exact same body before and after pregnancy

She never said while pregnant. But just keep yourself up..

She says it's not fair that men don't get equal preference in custody battles (which I agree with) but then says it's wrong for men to do the bare minimum to financially support their children. Like parents have responsibility towards their children, end of story.

​@mellieg.7543 While any man should provide financial support to his children, the point Pearl was making had to do with financial incentive. From her point of view, it incentives women to leave their husbands for financial gain. That is what she means when she said paying women for bad behavior.

@@mellieg.7543 - Child support has been weaponized, and that's why it should be abolished.

I think it has to do with eliminating the perverse legal incentive that motivates many women to get divorced. In many US jurisdictions, the woman does not even have to spend child support on the child. It’s just a way of getting a man’s money and giving nothing back in turn.

Yeah she's not very insightful

I can't even watch Trent. He’s disturbing and rude. This is not a debate. It’s his delusional , nonsensical “hissy fitting” attitude. Moreover he doesn’t understand business agreements clearly and he also doesn’t really care what Pearl thinks. Blah, blah, blah. And his rudeness to Pearl! Ugh! All his fact finding is self serving too.

She’s a “pick me” and she brought that attitude and experience into a debate over her head.

@@a-atheist this is so embarrassing for you

@@Dani-ww5qr Your face is embarrassing.

​@@Dani-ww5qr Learn punctuation and capitalization. How embarrassing for you. 🤣

There's a weird trend in the US with people (either Liberal and Conservative) claiming to be Catholics and yet showing a very poor knowledge of the Catholic Church. I remember a college student claiming she was not Christian but Catholic, and that God was fine with her working as a stripper...

That’s disgusting, I hope those men repent, apologise to their wives, and act better. Sorry you have to hear about that.