This is what a conversation ought to be - educated, factual and respectful. We have unfortunately forgotten the art of conversation, drowned as we are by daily dose of fake narratives, outright lies, divisive hate mongering.
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The two are clear examples of modern India's parliamentary representatives, who can garner more like minded people and thus foster the much needed change and thrawt the impending danger of communalism.
They r interested in Muslims Christians but not Indians. They don't have 1. Sab ka saath 2. Sab ka Vikas 3. Sab ka Vishwas 4. Sab ka prayas only appeasement of Muslims & Christians for votes & money
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After Bengal election Results.. Thousands of Hindus got tortured, their shops were burnt, many got hanged, many ladies got GangRay_ pd, many were kicked out of bengal, many ran to Assam for refuge leaving their everything.. TMC terrorists literally killed Non-TMC voters.. But this lady mahua Moitra who is from same party is Talking about democracy. Same party has killed many non-TMC party members especially BJP members and has GangRay_ pd women workers. But You won't find it any bad. Because For you MODI that can't even clear out road blockade is bad. One day this pain will Revolt. It's Nature. BJP has made many mistakes but it never kills other party members neither congress has killed other party members.
Violence has erupted in WB after election. But it was between the TMC and the BJP supporters. Not between Hindus and Muslims. I do not know which Godi media reported this.
@@theniravpanchal 'never kills other party members'. Really? Any comments on the ongoing violence happening towards political opponents in Tripura? Also, Post poll violence has been happening in Bengal for decades. It happened when CPIM was there(when BJP didn't have any presence in Bengal) and when TMC came. It's tragic what happened but stop giving it a communal twist, bro
Even I feel the same as Mahua Moitrs. Today I am 50 but I feel earlier India was more secular and democratic. My father was in the IAF and I stayed with Muslims, Sikhs and Christians in the same block. But today's generation has become so intolerant. 'Unity in diversity' is certainly in danger.
Earlier india has seen emergency, nasabandi of Hindus only , 3000 Sikhs death and attack on sikh temple, Bombay blast, 26/ 11 attack, 1200 major communal riots between Hindu and Muslim. Compare to that in last 8 yrs no terror attack inside India and very few communal violence.
WDecember 1992 and Feb-March 2002 riots against minorities (Muslims)- Why there is no mention of it? (You were merely mentioned as 1200 odd major communal violences)l@@sunandaroychoudhury9855
The population adds to a very particular style of competition that youth is doctrinised by many elders at home in the name of social, religious advantages the law gives to a few sect. But in reality, the size of the crowd has outgrown to a level where these reservations are just perks to survive. The poor continue to be poorer...Rich continue to be richer. And in between the sandwich the middle class continue to be foolish serving the rich.
@@manikadas4929 Lol , speaking English eloquently does not mean much educated by mind n culture. Go n check her educational field. But I am ardent follower of sir Sashi Tharoor , I respect ,admire and appreciate him . Mahua maitra does stand by talent around Sashi Tharoor.
@@dhebo02 This is the difference between a Bhakth and an educated literate Parliamentarians unlike the goons & gundas though may be educated but not literate in BJP. In BJP there are few educated but illiterates.
In the background modi gets ups and goes to the kitchen , Modi is making tea in the kitchen for both of them as he finds no space among such intellect .
English speaker ko sunna hai toh CNN nahi toh bbc channel dekh leta itna excited hone ka kya jarurat tha inmaise ek bengali aur ek kerala ka hai in se English kyu sunna chata hai Malayalam aur bengali suun inse. English pasand hai toh Joe Biden ko suuun
What a pleasant and matured discourse. Wish some like minded people could rule this country and make it a prosperous and inclusive India. Sadly wishes seldom come true.
Like minded people are ruling our country, that's the reason we have so called "Council of Ministers" who are "collectively" responsible to the parliament. As far as your second argument is concerned, i.e. India not being inclusive, you need to clarify what kind of inclusiveness are you talking about. Are you speaking from the perspective of a "Common Civil Code", then I am sure majority of Hindus wouldn't have any problems with that, instead the minorities would definitely rebel against the same. Or, if you are saying that things should be done such that nobody's sentiments are hurt, well then I am sure you can understand the magnitude of diversity that exists in our country. You can't make everyone happy. So, if you are butt-hurt then it's not because government is evil, it's because government's priorities are not aligned with yours. So, instead of expressing sorrow and discontent, make peace with the fact that you can't do anything about it atleast till 2024 General Elections. All the best for the same. :)
lol..hypocricy at its best..the guy who is talking about Democracy is the same guy who just accepted a person as his (and the party's leader) bcz of his surname fully knowing that there are at least 20 people with better credentials to head the party..the party has never seen a non-gandhi leader except for MMS era and that too was by force, not by choice the girl who is talking about how difficult it has become now to motivate ppl to join a movement bcz ppl's priorities have changed, that bcz now you can make someone not worry abt a danger to the nation if he is given internet for 5 rs is the same girl who abates killing of people just bcz they are from an opposition party and pose a threat to your rule, the party that is playing the dirty politics of "numbers" to consolidate their vote bank
James Henriques, India is one of the most inclusive societies.. If you delve into the Partition times, it was partitioned on the basis of religion, the ones who wanted a separate country got 2 countries.. Yet many of them stayed back in India. If not inclusive then what were we? We neither attempt to convert others nor are into proselytize. No other nation in the world has so much diversity as India..
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Yes, both have great command of English language , but what does mean to you ? You are there for the substance of their discussion or to bask in the pleasure of their conversation in English language ? Would you care any less if the same topic was discussed in another language much more competently or with less command of the english lanuage ???
This is the problem of this country.. command over english is considered elite.. but the fact is countries like china japan russia focus on their native language not on a foreign soil language
Such discourses with genuine patriotic and broad minded people should be held more for the benefit of the common people and the welfare of the country as a whole .
Its appreciated , discussion went on without accusing the ruling party in any manner. Evaluation of the growth and development of the nation in all aspects looks very good. Both highly sweet statesmanship as well as firebrands. support the elected ruling party to take the nation forward. Please avoid mayhem in the parliament. You are elected by the electorate to debate , deliberate and discuss not to destroy or disrupt parliamentary proceedings.
@@geopazhoor Did u even listen to them? or just a fan boy of these English speakers. They were criticising the govt. as if the divisions in the society only happened due to BJP otherwise it was a peaceful society although there were riots before 2014 when UPA was in power. The crackdown of Opposition was first started in the early years of Independence by Nehru itself. Refer to book by Vikram Sampath on Veer Savarkar and his references.
Enlightening Conversation. We must have more such conversations with Shashi Tharoor as a permanent figure because he is more experienced and knowledgeable .
Exactly. Sashi Tharoor the speaker is much more interesting than Sashi Tharoor the politician. His debates and speeches are a delight to watch and learn. The best part is he doesn't fet mad if you disagree with him. He would always try to give you a more logical answer.
@Braj H LOL you're literally saying this to a former secretary general of UNO did your father even get opportunity to serve tea there🤣🤣🤣 You're perhaps a modi follower or something else Doesn't have the courtesy to acknowledge such a sophisticated and intellectual personage. Ignominious person like you should be expelled from our country
It was very healthy and a way forward discussion. Specially when Mohua said, let's not allow someone to capitalise our fears. That makes so much sense.
Really excited to see and listen to their discussion. Happy to see highly qualified decent people are seen in the politics mainly in opposition.I fully support them.
Truly blessed worthy watching, this two articulate politicians hope and pray sooner or later this two leaders will bring up digital india to beautifying india.
I thought initially this is going to be a neutral and unbiased discussion on the 75 years of independence. But instead they started speaking of last 7 years, have also stooped to the typical pedestrian politics and a typical BJP bashing mumbo-jumbo.. they made it with a facade of verbosity and polished english. which does not in anyway conceal the shallowness of their intellect..
When two intellectual converse to each other finally the nation reachs on partial conclusion. India is blassed by such a incredible, visionary politician which not only provide constructive feedback but also guide and stop the govt from taking any arbitrary action. Such a well informed politician are needed to us to carry this nation in the path of development and prosperity.
While Dr. Tharoor's approach is definitely broader and Moitra's bends towards ground level centric, i'd still appreciate the fact that two individuals with different opinions are able to sit down and talk and not drag themselves to a low level of shouting and interrupting like Patra or Tejasvi or Goswami and his fans.
The conversation is more politically movitated than a dispassionate thought. I would have been more enlightened if Shashi Tharoor would have shared his international experience in UN to dovetail the growth of India story and presented a roadmap for future. Mahua Moitra being a first time MP from Bengal should have presented WB story...both Kerala and WB are languishing inspite of so many learned and thinking intellects.
glad that we still have people like u two who sit in the same parliament , people like u guys help me to hope for a better future. maybe these 10yrs be lost to time, but hopefully soon we will be back on the track. more power to u guys God bless india🇮🇳👍
Bhai social media pe aise comments mat karo, kya pata BJP sponsored cops might end up charging you under sedition laws and name you as "desh drohi". Be careful, this ain't the india it used to be half a decade ago.
‼️‼️So basically from 70 years u saw india getting better?‼️‼️‼️‼️😂😂😂 Wow.....can't digest the fact the India has actually grown in 7 years actually and actually dealing with situations and creating foundation for the future !! ‼️‼️‼️
😂😂 ya man india grew so much in the last year. Only in the last 7 years did we establish iit, isro, barc, AIIMS , railways and what not. Oh also liberalisation as well! Phew modi works so hard man for the good of this country! Sad some ppl can't digest it
When it's a conversation between two individuals, one from Kerala which is the most developed state of India with the highest point in Human Development Index, highest rating in Sustainable Development Growth, highest literacy rate, highest sex ratio etc. and the other one from Bengal where the people are born intellect, a place which is the cradle of revolution and Indian national movement, then that conversation is definitely going to be a quality one🙏🙏🙏
Such a highest developed state of India - No one wants to go and settle and not even one IT Park in Kerala .. People of Kerala are settling in Bangalore and Hyderabad .. Perhaps it is too high and hence difficult to climb
Bengal is also the cradle of Muslim League, Khilafati movement, an Islamic state and Direct Action Day. Bengal is capable of unleashing great tragedies by white washing real danger. The cradle had 70% Muslims, yet go to Andaman and see how many Muslims you can find in freedom movement. Yet there are parks named after Khilafatis in Kolkata. So say Bengali HINDUS were the cradle of revolution and renaissance and Nobel winning work. Give credit where it's due.
As a malayali, I have to say that literacy is overrated by many in the academic field. Theoretically, literacy may look like a positive indicator (which it is), but without proper employment opportunities and liberalisation of markets, all that investment on literacy and human capital goes to waste since most of the talented workforce moves to other states (Karnataka, Maharashtra) or to other countries (Saudi, UAE,Oman, Muscat) since they offer much better employment opportunities. The alternative CPIM-congress govts haven't done much to boost the manufacturing sector which offers employment to a higher percentage of the labour force.
It was truly encouraging to listen to you both giving me a true citizen of India that all is not lost. May the Lord's blessing stregthen our country to follow justice & truth!
BJP-RSS be like..."bhai sunno, hindu vs muslim vs christians ka khel nahi khelenge toh hum kya kare, desh ko dharam pe ladai karwane hi toh politics hai aur yahi humara brand motto hai".
They have passion for their dynasty families with no passion for nation & patriotism. They love Muslims Christians Pakistan Bangladesh & not Indians. They r interested in Muslims Christians but not Indians. They don't have 1. Sab ka saath 2. Sab ka Vikas 3. Sab ka Vishwas 4. Sab ka prayas
@@FirstMusicLover They have passion for their dynasty families with no passion for nation & patriotism. They love Muslims Christians Pakistan Bangladesh & not Indians. They r interested in Muslims Christians but not Indians. They don't have 1. Sab ka saath 2. Sab ka Vikas 3. Sab ka Vishwas 4. Sab ka prayas
@@literarymusings8886 no absolutely they shouldn't Firstly Mahua is happily married I believe. Secondly and quite frankly I don't understand this childishly romantic idea that two individuals have to become a couple if they are both very competent in their field of work. We have plenty of examples in history which shows two competent individuals coming together hasn't done anything special Heard of professional friendship ? Let's just say they are two of our very well spoken and vocal parliamentarians and let them work together if possible for the good of people.
@@skylark304 divorcing is better than abandoning the wife by the PM. And you belong to that 2%, working as a IT coolie. You don't have to sell your conscience for the small payment you get.
Wonderful discussion, after 75 years of independence there’s still a lot to be done. The most important thing right now is to preserve the constitutional values. Let’s vote in a proper way in the next elections.
From Deep State to Surveillance State via Afghanistan - how we landed here. And what could be the role of National Security Apparatus in all this. Kindly watch: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fTx3Wm0fFUw.html
Yes, We need a politician like Modi to propel India's lost glory! We lost a lot of time building vague service sector, we need manufacturing sector to grow by leaps and bounds.
I truly agree with her, we never were concerned about what is religion of friends we r playing with. But conversion is real, mahua always undermine the things happening in Bengal.my own sister was forced for this. Tina dabi remained silent after divorce.pwa e doesn't come one way.
Unity in diversity is the most beautiful thing happened in lndia. In the olden days we used to travel in a train the Sikh, the Muslim, the Hindu, the Christian, the Jain, the Buddhist and many animists group together with no animosity, may we be wise how to choose a leader in the coming election.....
From Deep State to Surveillance State via Afghanistan - how we landed here. And what could be the role of National Security Apparatus in all this. If you watch this video till the very end you would be the most informed person. Kindly watch: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fTx3Wm0fFUw.html
lol..hypocricy at its best..the guy who is talking about Democracy is the same guy who just accepted a person as his (and the party's leader) bcz of his surname fully knowing that there are at least 20 people with better credentials to head the party..the party has never seen a non-gandhi leader except for MMS era and that too was by force, not by choice the girl who is talking about how difficult it has become now to motivate ppl to join a movement bcz ppl's priorities have changed, that bcz now you can make someone not worry abt a danger to the nation if he is given internet for 5 rs is the same girl who abates killing of people just bcz they are from an opposition party and pose a threat to your rule, the party that is playing the dirty politics of "numbers" to consolidate their vote bank
1. Rulers in a democracy? How come an elected representative becomes a 'ruler'? 2. As an MP, you are also a part of the government, just like Modi or any other MP. 3. Aren't you a government employee?
Our Hindustan doesn't trust Four " Ss".. 1. Sharad Pawwwwar. 2. ShankarSingh Vaghelaaaa of Gujarat MODEL. 3. Shashi Thooooorooooor. 4. S. E--rani. ( And any other S-Charya....) MM must have not talked to Shashi Thooooorooooor. He will leak the inside strategy to His Master Modi....who saved him from.....???
What's a Shashi- Mohua ' talk'/ conversation about without a heated debate with -- one on the proposition side and the other on the opposition.. Can't have both agreeing on every thing!! Always a treat to listen to well informed, well spoken people.
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Indeed a treat to listen to two extremely knowledgeable educated peoples’ representatives conversing on topics of public interests ……This is what people want to see in a democracy inside the parliament as well. I wish everybody would exchange their views with each other with such respect and tolerance. 👍
Wish a very flexible guy with a lovable 💓 heart doesn't protrude his heart & keeping the exchange of thought within the boundary of democracy. It is in lighter note 😄😄😄
@Kool Cj at least unlike bhakts we don’t claim fake patriotism and claim to be ‘saviours’ of Hindus 😂. Only illiterate bhakts are cajoled by BJP into delusion.
Bro..yes it is .it's their choice..I completely agree on it..but when Shashi makes a comment on the post independence generations and about commitments..this the question arises? What are we doing to our citizens of current generation? What have we done? Lots are settling in foreign nations just like his sons did..
@@optimusprime2456 exactly..so what does that mean ..there is some problem with system isnt it ...its not just about any single political party or individual
How can you justify individuals don't matter.. Individuals matter..if all individuals start thinking in a good way society ll change.. And second thing is he made a general statement regarding the post independence generations and those nonsense he should think about his own children,, you can't just say it's their choice blah blah.. otherwise he wouldn't have said that.. my opinion is personal one nothing to do with his political affiliation or anything or with his childrens choice..he must have also thought about it..it's about how he brought up his own sons..he's a hypocrite in those measures I would say..
I have a mixed feeling after watching this discussion. On the one hand, I am happy that such wise and erudite political leaders are in India. On the other hand, I am sad that majority of the voters in India look the other way, that they rather like the politics of bigotry and falsehood.
Heard of this issue called Shah Bano Vs GOI? I'm sure these speakers didn't speak of corruption and nepotism which are one of their biggest achievement. You are free to have an opinion but don't consider citizens as fools for your convenience. Thank you.
@@ps7336 corruption n nepotism are part of our society. We blame Bollywood n politicians of it but in most of Indians do that. These people are just a reflection of the society.
@@saq3329 True. Corruption is omnipresent. Its a reality that most countries face. But There's a difference between traffic police not performing duties and Politician in union Government selling the country. In case corruption, Reforms can come only from top,not the other way around. How can finance/home minister of country involve in corruption? Even the man, Shashi tharoor was accused of corruption.
" Taking Things for Granted " still exists inside the ethos of an average Govt Servant. He is neither bothered about his work culture or output or its value to anyone else. He is interested only for his self survival.. That has come to be recognized as the post independent Society of the free.. Esp the 90,s. The present Govt has actually accelerated the downfall in a different way.. The 2 Gentlemen seen here talking in between themselves are also responsible in the sense that.. They allowed the Party to over rule their intelligence and wisdom.. Whatever Mr Rahul or Sonia order, Dr Tharoor has to obey.. That is a failure of our Democratic norm..
Whenever I see Mahua Moitraji and Sasi Taroor together I become energised and inspired. I am confident that if they work together, our Indian democracy can get relief from the serious wound inflicted by the selfish negative minded leaders. Congratulations, thank you so much.
Funny, they don't talk about persecution of Hindus in Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Pakistan, West Bengal, Manipur, Kerela, Kashmir.... All the accent and diction and glorification of English doesn't make one an intellectual, it's time average Indian takes pride in native culture, linguistics. That's what the present govt did for India.
@@jagdishkumar-hg8og No mate, I know very basic hindi especially when it comes to writing ( Not saying my english vocab is deep, that's kinda limited as well) But my point was, always go for the content not language Being a tamilian, you should understand why english is important for our country, we do need an official language and no way we can make all states agree for hindi or as a matter of fact any other language
Gandhiji was a very intelligent person, he knew that public will not get every thing, so to connect with public he took the attire of public, so does Mamata Banerjee and gets votes of people.
@@subhadeepmandal7089 connecting with masses is not at all an easy task. Gandhi ji left materialistic pleasures to do that. Here they are concerned about identity politics, if they really are, then they need to leave the "intellectual attitude". So certainly even if that was not the gist, I felt it was an important part of the discussion.😊🤝
@@camelliamandal8853 Wow! A reply not ending in hatred and/or abuse. Well that's a new one... Thanks for that. Also I won't present my argument but agree to disagree. 😔
Emergency and killing sikhs ok daddy kool playboy? How neharu indira and 😂😂😂 rajiv became bharat ratan? Not patel bhagath singh savarkar etc. Complex questions will get simple answers
Neither Indira nor Rajiv had college degree. Nor did Manmohan Singh live up to his potential. You are confusing education with fluent english. Thats the tragedy
I envy him...he is high-profile Casanova and international lady killer besides being being a good speaker....Madam Mitra please...be cautious ... don't fall for his charm... remember what happened to Sunanda Puskar..🤫🥺😥😭
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Typical discussion of the elites of the country. Far far removed from the ground realities. These guys, who are previleged spent half of their lives in Eroupean countries earning stinking amount of money, coming back to roost profanities about a "declining" democracy in accented English. Imagine someone talking of dalit women, caste, hunger who does not understand the meaning of these words? Absolute hipocracy. Nothing gonna worse than this. Condescending snobbery is what I call this.
This conversation reflects the true concerns for the dear motherland. We can only at least dream of this kind of people leading the nation for the real peace, progress and prosperity of the nation.
Its so reassuring and soothing to know that people like Shashi are in the Indian parliament, being from across the border my longing for peace and friendship in the Sub continent is not a lost cause.
Look shashi, if you, kapil sibbal, singhvi etc. Become cabinet ministers it's fine but I am certainly not going to vote for a mixture of cabinet ministers of Rahul Gandhi, Lalu Yadav, mayawati, mamta and mulayam.
Mr Shahsi Tharoor, Congress did nothing When secularism failed in Kashmir. You lost your story. You made Hindu kashmiris refugees in their own country. Shame
Wow what a quality discussion ,This was fantabulous , when two well educated, unbiased and rational people sit with each other this kind of conversations are bound to happen.
This lady is not properly educated(watched before some of her non respectful language and also showed middle finger in Arnab Goswami's program ) and this discussion is like complimenting each other.
Development has also taken place in corruption. Today corruption in India is at peak. Without bribe no work is done. No one talks about corruption and human rights are being quashed.
