Indian 116 Performance REVIEW / Stage 3 Big Bore Kit Upgrade 

I am happy with my stage 1 Thunderstroke 111. The power distribution is superb.I have gone from a complete stop on 3rd gear without as much as a jolt. Bike takes right off. I roade with two Road glides and kept up with them fairly easiy and these guys were tearing up the road. To be honest again, I know we like big numbers but if you can not ride those big numbers come to nothing. You can lose going up against a honda shadow, or maybe even a moped. It comes down to how confident you are with your skills and you knowing how to use the power that.s between your legs. As for me right now, 111 holds it's ground very well. Good job polaris Indian for making a machine that properly distributes it's power. No complaints here.

ASR staying pure to the mission of helping Veterans and enhancing the motorcycle lifestyle. Thank you.

I have finally caught up with almost all your videos. Binge watching for 4 days. You are an awesome guy and this veteran apprentices you.

10-5-2019. BRING IT HOME !!!

It was worth it for me. My Chieftain makes me smile everytime I rip that throttle 😝

Thank you for sharing 🏍👍👊✌️be safe ride safe out there

Hell yeah Adam! Lov the burnout man

That looks and sounds impressive!

Thanks for your review 👍 😊

Thanks for getting around to reviewing "...the damn big bore kit". Now, go get it tuned and review it AGAIN!😁😎

Great info!

Basically that means it has so much power, you will be able to taste colors!

The 111 is a great engine...but when you upgrade to the 116 stage III, it is fricken AWESOME! Now I am gonna see if it will do 100,000 miles because my Vintage with this setup is my forever bike.

Good review and appreciate the information. I am happy with stage 1 on my Roadking Special. Ride the tires off. Hooorah

Good facts/video! To get the max performance out of the new stock 116 you still need to add a stage 1 exhaust and stage 1 air cleaner (some say a different cam too / info is still coming out). Either way I think it's a nice move by Indian to add the stock 116 & their new Ride Command 2.0 is very nice! I've seen it. Adam, please scratch Scooter behind his ears for me!

111 Powerstroke motor. Ford and Indian, two of my favorites! 😂

Really like the Indians. Not cheap gains, but fairly substantial. Kills me that we don’t have a dealer in our area cause I probably would have one. Thanks for the honest review.

I have a 2019 H-D Ultra Limited, we installed the stage IV which gives it 117ci. We did go with the stage 3 cam which keeps the HP/TRQ in a better range. Big bore and small cam will make more TRQ than the stage IV cam does in a more usable RPM range. If all your power is produced in the 4500 + range then you'll be disappointed unless your on a lite bike. These big tour bikes need TRQ not HP

I love my 116 stage 2..A lot of HD riders are in awe when they want to "race."

Still more show than go, that's what the bike is made for anyhow. If you are looking for real power, don't by an indian or Harley, but if you want relaxed trips, ok . I've nearly finished reading your book, I really appreciate, respect! That time you was more back to the roots, actually it's more commercial with new expensive products and bikes, but you're doing a great job. The world is missing people like you. Keep on sharing!

I find that my 114 rgu falls on its face at about 4,000 RPMs as well. Definitely need a stage kit on it as well. Great video 👍

All that money for 100 hp. I love the Indian bikes but the Milwaukee 8 has the thunder stroke smoked on available power with upgrades. I have a 124 M8 and for less money it’s making 127hp 142 torque. I do love the thunder stroke engine though. Just so smooth.

Sweet burnout

I need you to do a more in depth video of that ASR seat. I just ordered mine. The driver seat is back ordered, so I’ve gotta wait. But I got the passenger pillion yesterday. And if the driver seat feels anything like that back seat I’m gonna love it!

Extra power 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Do you know what gains a 116BBK would have over 111 with Stage 2? And would you keep Lloyds 585 cams when you add the BBK? Thanks man, love the vids

Adam! my brother! give an update of the mileage of all the bikes you interact with on a regular basis! all of my military riding buddies and myself are just curious! and also how many miles you have on the bikes with the stage kits, also how many miles did it take to blow up the stage 4 harley

Hey there Adam, If you go on J&P cycle website. They have a 2020 Indain new models and there likes look a Roadmaster with the fix flare on it.See you Oct 5.

When you were on the road particularly route 66 what was the best way to carry cash - cards etc especially hitting all the small towns like Oatmen AZ

Do you have loyds 585 cams in your 116?

Now throw out the cost or the stage 4 kit for a comparison of HD vs Indian and the gain on the HD to keep this interesting

Adam are you going to do Indian parade next year after your done with the harley record thus year? Its the same date

Outro scene, that tire was toast anyway. Might as well!

I have a SF DH Jack Daniels with 116 and two 111 Indian bikes with stage 2. I prefer the 116 with the ride modes

I'm waiting for the 2020 Dark Horse Chieftain with the 116 motor here in Germany!

Hi good review. But almost 5000 grand for up grade😳. I just bought a 2002 Gold Wing for that. Have put 10000 miles on since may. It has more power than i could ask. I think the front end came off the ground when i pulled hard in 2 gear😳. Any way more power for you. You must be in the money now burning tire 😢. Stay safe you are the one. 😎🏍🇺🇸

ha, you know i have always wondered about your statements of how you ride and don't really see that in your videos. the burnout was a first for me! need to ride one of those Indians just to see the difference.

Adam how many miles do you already have on the Indian?

I like watching and listening to motor reviews. At one point in my younger years I chased the more speed and torque in my motorcycles. And I had a blast doing it. Now that I'm older and retired I just ride a 05 1200 sportster with a stage one kit. It has plenty of power and low end torque to make ya giggle when the back end starts to wiggle lol! You have a nice bike and no disrespect to you, but the price tag for that kit is to rich for my blood. But I think all service prices are way over priced just like about everything else at dealerships. Enjoy your motor and have a blast twisting that throttle!

It's thunder stroke, not "power stroke".

I have the 111 2019 cheiften great bike all the power l need for stock bike butt I'm 67 not a young wipper snapper. Been ridding over 50 years love all bikes .just ride safe guys don't be the 1st one to a accident.

Adam, I would like your opinion on seats for the Indians. Just rode my 2018 Chief Vintage from Seattle to Jacksonville, FL and back. After a couple hundred miles each day the seat was killing my rear end. Just wonder what your thoughts are....

Yo Adam have you had any issues with closed throttle on deceleration allowing the motor to stall/shut off due to sketchy fuel mapping at idle?

Where did you get your belt chain from?

Hell yeah Adam, that's actually not a bad price for the Big bore kit,is it worth it Hell yeah 💯👍

Are you going to review the performance parts Rusty did for you on the Harley?

Hi Adam ! Maybe you could hook up with Indian in Charlotte, N.C. and have Loydz install a 126 kit or if your bike was a 111 to begin with do a 121 kit in it . Possibly work some kind of deal out . If you would do that it is certain to increase their business. Just a suggestion. Take Care !

@Adam Sandoval thanks for your video . If I am going to spend $5000 on a big bore kit , I will buy a Harley 128 engine for not much more . You get a new motor not a rebuild . My preference is a Harley .

For my Harley I want the kit that from a dead stop you get more torque.

I’ve got the 116 in my Chieftain limited after having a 111 Chief Darkhorse and all I can say is just do it. But don’t cut the cat out that’s going to give you noise and a minimal gain on the 116. You’ll never go back to 111 again.

Which bike is faster your Harley or the Indian

....you said Heavy Duty...lol 🤘🥃🤘🥃

You bring up a great point, Adam - I hope everyone heard you... folks like their torque curve in different places. I prefer mine including low rpm's - putting around town I don't want it stumbling. I enjoy taking corners and [sometimes] sliding through intersections in second or even third - where the 111 really shines as a torque beast - and that will largely go away when things are optimized for 3K+ rpm. Great video - enjoy your extra cubes. ;)

Not willing to buy another Polaris. PWC was junk, kids quad was junk, and Razor SXS was just OK. Bought a CVO Street Glide instead.

Those prices do not include installation build.....right?

I know this video is two years ago but can you do a video with a break down of both Indian and Harley engines?

Losing warranty benefit? Is that legal?

No replacement for displacement 😁👍!

A lot of dealers are offering a free 116 kit for certain 2019 models excluding labor

Did they port N polish the heads and intake runner?

Pricey. No wonder why so many riders are sticking with "Jap bikes." The difference to upgrade can buy a great used bike that already has plenty of power on a Honda or Kawi. American bikes have gotten way out of hand as far as prices go. I mean, seriously, we are talking about 2 wheels and a motor, no need other than greed, to charge that kind of money. People started buying bikes in huge numbers as the price of gas rose. The American manufacturers took huge advantage of this and their greed jacked up the prices of their bikes. Now, the price of an American bike is the price of a damn car. It is no longer worth it to own a bike, when spending 30 grand, or more, for a bike that most of the owners hardly ever ride. If they claim American bikes are better, why the need for upgrades to get more power? If I were to buy another American bike, however, it would be an Indian, since my experience in the past owning a HD was not something I care to do again.

How does this compare to the challenger? Video?

What if you just bought the exhaust and air filter through the dealer but installed on your own. Will that void the warranty. What if you bought a 3rd party air filter then went to rusty for the exhaust. Will that also void the warranty. I want to get a d&d exhaust but if it’s going to void the warranty. I’m out. Also any simple installation I can do on my own. Otherwise, I’m out of any work to be done through dealers. Can’t afford all the bells and whistles on this budget.

What's the redline with your bike now?

is it worth more than $5K+ (incl. labor) for 5 more cubic inches? #JustSayin

Man you got me jonesing for a new bike, traded my Electra Glide for a boat a couple years ago because of the dang cellphone driver's. Had a couple really close calls. But I have found that there are just as many idiots on the water! Haha....at 63 now and just retired due to the covid crap and Corp America bullcrap. Hmmmmm cheiftan or challenger???

I cannot fathom a air cleaner that cost $500!?

And yet people keep complaining that HD is expensive!

I am sure that engine will kill me🤣

How does it compare to a street glide stage 3/4

That seems kind of low on the horsepower and torque my Can-Am Spyder F3 s has 115 hp at the rear tire stock

Power down low is good for getting away from these idiot cagers here in Florida. I didn't think it was possible but I went out today, I witnessed so much road rage and at least 15 hostile drivers doing dangerous things, all I'm the span of and hour. It was never this bad before.

That's pricey they should be able to sell like ten or eleven of those ...

Did you ever ride this bike?

👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸

I am going to wait for the New Indian water cooled 120 horsepower beast! Harley is always behind, no mono shock frame with long travel, no ride modes, no remote bag locks, no LED lighting, and now no water cooling and what ever else Indian is going to offer us...The nod goes to Indian for my next new ride! Come to think of it, if it weren’t for Indian pushing them, Harley would be offering even less then they do now and priced more!

Power stroke? Don’t you mean thunder stroke?

Let’s See some Carbon Fiber Wheels!!!

So with this kit it will run with my 02 Honda vtx 110 CID ? LOL

100HP? That's it? For a stage3? Stage 2 M8 107s are pulling 104~108HP depending on the cam. Stage 2 M8 114s are pulling 114 HP depending on the cam. It looks like Indian needs a Gen 2 Thunderstroke with 8 Valves.

Let’s compare a Stage 4 Kit on a 2016 Twin Cam Roadie...

SMOKING !!!!!

yea im gonna stick with my S&S 128, that needs no case machining

So buy a $20,000 bike spend $5,000 Performace upgrade and then get smoked by a 600 CC Yamaha R-6 or a 600 CC Honda CB-R which both make 130 HP stock . Or buy a 1 Liter Sports bike that makes 200 HP stock .. Indian FTR-1200 is 123 HP stock also .. as it is a modern design V-Twin water cooled with a similar bore and stork was a 327 Chevy small block car engine..

Only $4550, lol

Too bad Harley or Indian can not decrease their bikes weight by 100 pounds for almost the same power gain. Always cheaper for manufacturers to increase horsepower vs trying lighter/more expensive metals. I am surprised that no one has pushed CARBON FIBER wheels on Harley or Indians. Really decreasing that Unsprung weight which helps handling, braking, acceleration and weight.

Great power... but Indian’s 1200 can make lots more... just saying...

$4500 not including labor for a stage 3 build on a 116 and you only get 100hp and 127tq? What a rip-off!!!! My HD Stage 3 cost way less with labor and I got numbers way better than that on a 107 to 114 HD build (117HP and 123TQ.)

Power stroke is a ford diesel this is a thunderstroke just sayin

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Let's us be honest, "I will never buy an Indian". I live in Australia and nobody buys the cake mixes. Totally uncool machines unless you can't afford a Yamaha

$5000 in parts another $5000 in labor installing. Trade your old one and the $10g and get the new one.

Still Harley guy lol

Adam, Let Lemmy do the engine reviews. You just keep doing the rest of what you do....

100hp and 127tq is not a lot of power for the work you’re doing and money you’re spending. If you had a Harley Davidson TC you could make 120hp/120tq with that same money no problem at all

What a rip off i could buy two good bikes for $4500