Indian FTR 1200 S Motorcycle Review 

It would take a lot of work from Harley to release a competitor. Brand new water cooled engine, chassis, basically a complete brand new bike. Right now it’s just the ktm duke.

@@cdub.91 you haven't heard of the new Harley Davidson Streetfighter, have you?

Seth Fjeldheim oh the concept and not a model? Don’t get so hyped on a concept. Especially when it’s already well below the ftr 1200 specs and built by Harley.

vrod motor in a Buell frame would be a good start.

@@MickE98 funny it was originally supposed to be in a buell frame as a sportbike. Harley hijacked it n added 60lbs of mass to the engine when Porsche refined it and it was too heavy for the frames buell had initially designed. Buell has the engine concept in the mid 90s already. Theres video of it in his original workshop in a sort chassis.

Diogo Ressurreição one can hope the EU slips in a really high tariff. Because the EU is only looking out for the EU. :)

Cries in indian Wait that's not right

don't worry it will go to someone that can usualy buy like 8 of them

Cries in Asian

Cries in Russian

I think there will eventually be a 750 version. Since the FTR750 is there championship FT bike. It may just take some engineering to make the 750 motor streetable. The 1200 was an easier 1st effort since they were starting from the 69ci scout motor which is already engineered for the street.

If you want something like that, check out the Royal Enfield Himalayan 650 ($4500 US)

The "Race Replica" MSRP is $16,999.

13K? 14 690€ for the FTR1200 and 15 990€ for the FTR1200S in Spain. Almost $18k. U_U

Kelembor Bhaal not worth it way to much money

They bought the brand in 2011. Released the TS111 engine in 2012 some time and then released their first bike in '13. And in '13 they sold more Indian bikes that first year of release than they sold Victory the entire 8 years they were out.

Even more impressive is that they're neck and neck with Ducati and Harley's piss poor 40% reliability ratings per Consumer Reports.

Hardcore! Two thumbs up to that guy!

Do you mean WWII? 1921 was 3 years after WWI

@@pacotaco840 he was in the military from 1917-1921

I wish I had done that when I was awarded my DD214. Probably my biggest regret to date. Bravo Zulu to your uncle.

Is the giveaway limited to one entry per person?

Probably only open to the the states and not the world? Seriously need to consider moving.

@@scottbott8525 you're pulling that quote out of context. What you're leaving out are the terms "Domestic" and "American". What major American manufacturer has released something this unique since Harley shuttered Buell? You could perhaps argue for Motus, but I wouldn't call them a major manufacturer (they're also now out of business). And their bikes started out at nearly double the cost of the most premium FTR package. As far as the giveaway goes, we had the option to choose whatever bike we wanted to give away (from ANT manufacturer). We CHOSE this bike because of how uniquely exciting it is and the fact that Indian is genuinely trying to break out of their mold and make a change. Yeah, there are a lot of great bikes out there, and some are better and worse in varying levels of performance. And we ride and review as many of them as we can get our hands on. Overall, I feel like we gave this a pretty good shakedown. Both the video as well as the written review on Common Tread are the most thorough pieces I've seen to date (although it looks like the guys at Motorcyclist have some pretty intense testing in the works). Among other things, the biggest miss is Indian's marketing team letting people think this bike will be good off-road based on their marketing materials, it's not. But it does have a very good engine, chassis, suspension, and brakes. It's a sporty, competent standard. What makes it exciting is that we're seeing this from an American manufacturer and not a Japanese or European one. When's the last time Harley, Indian, or Victory (RIP) released something this unique? While some might argue for Harley's 2008 introduction of the short lived XR1200, I would opt for the 1977 Harley Davidson XLCR 1000. All due respect, I'm no fanboy of Indian. I've never bought an Indian (I currently own five motorcycles from a variety of OEMS) and I haven't really enjoyed any of the previous one's I've ridden. This bike is something that I genuinely enjoyed riding and I do think it's the most exciting bike we've seen from an American Marquee in a long time. But that's my opinion. You want to voice your opinion, I'm happy to hear you out and respect what you have to say. You want to shit on us after pulling our words out of the context of the story? I have no respect for that.

@@SpurgeonDunbar Explain how the mirrors "feel" cheap? The gas cap is fine. If you want a flushed gas cap then, hit the aftermarket community. Same goes for the brake levers and clutch. Any fossil fueled engine, albeit diesel or gas, is going to run hot after you have been flogging it while canyon carving. I mean, I know that you guys are Harley fanboys but I appreciate the respectful review of the FTR1200. Thanks!

@@Sig721Tau First of all, I've never owned a Harley Davidson. There is not a Harley Davidson I would currently buy, they're just not my cup of tea for the riding I do. I've ridden them and reviewed them in the context of how they're intended to be used, but show me a piece of content where I've ever come across as a Harley fanboy. If anything, accuse me of being a KTM fanboy or a Triumph fanboy. Those are at least brands of motorcycles I've bought in the past three years (two KTMs and one Triumph). But even then, I bought them because they were the best at doing what I wanted them to do in the style of riding I was looking to tackle. So, I "voted" with my dollars. The mirrors are done in a matte black finish that doesn't match the style of the rest of the bike. They literally feel cheap for a bike that's coming in at $17K. I would have preferred a gloss black paint and more of a low-slung or bar-end design. Not the goofy Mickey Mouse ears. The fuel cap, and the filler neck, are not thought out at all and putting gas in this thing is a pain in the ass. The brake lever is an adjustable Brembo lever with great feel and fine tune adjustment, I have no complaints their, it's fantastic. However, the clutch lever looks like it should have come from a 2005 Honda Shadow (no disrespect to Honda Shadow owners, but come on, you didn't spend $13K-$17K for your Shadow). The engine heat is not from "flogging it from canyon carving". It's from the fact that the fueling on EURO 5 bikes is leaned out to pass emissions requirements. The engine then runs much hotter as a result. This is not Indian's fault, as they're doing what they have to do to play within the requirements the government has required, but it is noticeable and bears a mention (some bikes are worse than others). I've seen this as an increasing problem from a lot of the bikes I've ridden over the past two years, my KTM 1090 being one of the worst (but I bought it anyway because it was so good at everything else). I'm not nitpicking things, but rather pointing out considerations a buyer should be aware of if they going to spend their hard earned money on a motorcycle. The fact that Indian shows videos of this bike being ridden off-road? That's why we tested it this way. If a buyer that doesn't know any better watches their videos and then buys this bike thinking it's good in the dirt, they're going to be disappointed. It's our job to use these reviews to level set expectations as much as possible while providing a bit of entertainment. While mirrors or a clutch lever might seem like a minor thing, to someone shelling out $17K, it might be a big deal. Not necessarily a big enough deal to make or break a purchase, but something to be aware of. If this were the CSC SG250, none of those things would have even been mentioned. If you'd like even deeper context into the bike and how we tested it and how it faired, please check out the accompanying Common Tread article where I going in depth even further. Thanks for the comment!

Switched from which bike?

@@Super-hz5ih 2014 FLSTC At 200 miles exhaust starting rusting and engine case was weeping. Shifter rod was corroded, check engine light stayed on constantly.

@@grumpyoldpig oh damn, that's a good reason to switch 😅

..yeah, another tough day at the office, fer cry eye!

Just another chance to stop and watch people ooh and ah at the gas station. Obviously not a long distance cruiser

I’m ready to stretch my legs after that anyway, that’s the problem everyone is in a hurry and doesn’t want to stop , it’s fine for me,

I ride coast to coast twice a year on my long distance bike,I have bikes for different rides

Have alot of bikes but I still like to stop often, just came back from Monterey ca from Annapolis md and my buddy doesn’t like to stop and has an auxiliary gas tank and we missed so much by riding by and not stopping , I wish I could take the FTR 1200 on a longer ride though

12.9 liters is way, way too small for 1200 cc

The Bluray special edition has an alternate ending where the Captain America shows up and warns the captain about the iceberg. It makes it to New York without any incident.

😂​@@npmueller82

Hope you enjoy it! Everytime I swing by my dealer to grab stuff for my Scout I always pester them about the FTR so I can see one in person :)

thabrownieviking Thanks. Yea not sure when a dealer will have one to keep on display for people to look at. Dealer where I’m buying mine has sold all their initial preorders plus has a few on the side who want to see one in person before deciding and a dealer in northern Indiana has taken deposits on 16 FTR’s lol. Makes me laugh a little when I see all these haters say Indian will never sell these bikes lol. Anyways I hope when you do get to see one in person your first impression is a good one. Enjoy your Scout. I have one as well and they’re a pretty awesome bike also.

Used to someone else is brand spanking new to me ! I only bought 1 new auto in 43 years . I was 18 and worked every farm hand , general labor , and construction for 3 years and paid 14,560 $ for a 98 s 10 . V6 auto air , power brakes and steering. Rubber floor mat with a bench seat .. I lost 4,000 that day buying that pickup. I was worth about 10k used with low miles, it went down in price ever sense.. I won't do that dumb ass thing again !

Used to someone else is brand spanking new to me ! I only bought 1 new auto in 43 years . I was 18 and worked every farm hand , general labor , and construction for 3 years and paid 14,560 $ for a 98 s 10 . V6 auto air , power brakes and steering. Rubber floor mat with a bench seat .. I lost 4,000 that day buying that pickup. I was worth about 10k used with low miles, it went down in price ever sense.. I won't do that dumb ass thing again !

As a local, highway 138 was the first thing I recognized in this video.

Haven’t ridden there in a while! Did you move away? San Gabriel Canyon 39 out of Glendora is pretty technical, or a few quick runs on upper Mt Baldy Road then lunch at the lodge.

Like a Buell Ulyeses?

@Donald Trump's Space Force yes kinda actually 😂

It's almost 18 000€ where I live and I paid 19 000 for my Nissan Juke

That's in any country. You can get cheap kias for 10,000

Donald Trump's Space Force it’s a 15000 bike which is also a car in America 🤦🏾‍♀️

They have the street rod 750 now too which looks pretty decent. These 2 companies need to get a handle on their pricing though. They wonder why millenials arent buying their bikes its probably because they dont have 10-20k to drop on it. I see plenty of young people on bikes, its just old bikes or the new 300 class ones that they can afford. Id like to see an Indian 500 thats affordable one of these days.

Haven't seen a reason to give up my FZ-07 for on road and KTM 500 for offroad yet. One bike for both is still too rough, maybe someday someone will nail it - KTM 790 and hopefully Yamaha 700 will be closer

William Marshall i was excited about this bike when first announced... then i saw the price and i went with a z900! Hahaha! Love the thing and i am sooo glad i got what i got... i sat on the ftr during motogp in Austin and i must say i was expecting more...

Thanks man. We strive to always be improving while showcasing the bikes in new and interesting ways. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

We have a hell of a team behind these productions. Amazingly talented folks spent a lot of time putting this one together. Thanks for noticing!

Looks are subjective. For you this assessment may be perfect, but for others, no. And all four are weighted differently for every person. But I'm glad you have the bike that's best for you. It's a great bike.

J. R. Boedeker oh for sure man, this is ALLLL my opinion. This is just me thinking out loud and sharing for fun.

Jool looks are purely subjective, most agree this looks better then the street triple...

Driveitsideways 1 It’s all good, personally the street and speed triples look great to me and better overall than the FTR. Yes even with the twin headlights lol. No wrong answers. good thing there are tons of choices 😎

Jool I prefer the previous styled speed/Street triples, with the twin round headlights... my buddy has a Thruxton R, thing is absolutely insane. I’m a big Triumph fan but prefer the twins over the triples, again pure personal preference. Twins are slower, I just like how they drive more personally

wescobts thank you! Had a good time with this one.

Did everything but the quick shifter! Well said! Now she is sharpened up! Waaay different then stock. Completely different bike! The way to go!

That Bob Guy thanks man, I appreciate the kind words. I know Lem was bummed to have missed this one, but I had no problem stepping in to ride this bike.

I agree - keep in mind though its American competitor's most expensive offerings put off 78 HP for 25k. I'd rather have Yamaha T7 or KTM 790, but that's for more offroad bias - for a "do it all bike" it is pretty sweet. Would definitely pay 9-10k for a used one.

@@RedEmpire36 and that's exactly why HD's stock is worth half of what it was just 5 years ago.

Title 2 I’m with you got the Ducati 1200R much more refined than this.

You got 90 hp more with the Aprilia rsv4

It's fun seeing Common Tread regulars elsewhere lol I wonder if knowledge of Spurg's AutoZone obsession will successfully spread through the rest of the internet? I hope it does

@@slappydave4241 hahaha. We all get along pretty well so it's just fun to interact indirectly.

Moto Mango did you win you overconfident douchebag?

You gotta give the people what they want

@ZLA Lemmy hey bro hope u r recovering fast n well.. Take care..

No prob, thanks for watching. I haven't ridden a Buell in years. My buddy had a Firebolt growing up, I just remember it being a very "raw" motorcycle. You knew you were riding a bike. Even riding the 1125s when I was living in TN, they were their own thing. All of these years later, that memory of Buell remains.

Spurgeon Dunbar is it weird that i feel honored that you replied to me. Thank you!

@@messyjolay6932 not at all. I'm stoked you took the time out of your day to watch me talk about motorcycles. So we're even!

EBR most underrated bike ever made. I have a 2015sx dean Adam's pipe 44 rear sprocket it's a beast. Buell 09 xb12s, 2001 x1 lightning and a turbocharged vrod. I like the Indian alot. Unique and cool bike. All harley had to do was utilize the big bore kits for the vrod and put it in a stylish chassis with cartridge forks and they have something. Most reliable engine harley made. Mine has had a scratch built tube system for 10 years. 22k turbo miles and not one issue EVER. Put down 156hp to the wheel on 9psi boost. Bone stock injectors and internals just modified fuel regulator and the tune. And who initiated the vrod engine development...buell.