the 2022 FTR Carbon was the best looking one of the lot. the new ones are a bit Meh, plus as you said the price, it pushes it out of the competition for the bikes in this power range. here is Australia , the FTR Sport is 7k or so more than the MTO9SP or duke 890R, 5K more than the 765RS and even a grand more than a Streetfighter V2.
Went with the ducati monster cuz lightness, equipement, heat of exhaust collector on ftr (tho ducati still heat a bit), price…. But main factor was the ridiculous range of the 12L of ftr… comon indian! Give more! Tried ftr carbon and looked so good. And love the tubular rear wheel hold! Sexy « industrial » style And the new tft display from the chief was a great addition as previous « cheaper » ftr were old tech… kinda wish we had a kawasaki z900rs style tho but hey can’t have all
@@thomasbouvier3203 120 mile range is perfectly manageable. More would be nice, but it's not a deal breaker. By the time I've travelled far enough to need filling up, I'm ready for a stop anyway.
well i often go for a 200km ride... and if you hit it a bit in the mountain, well you are below, in mountain, where gas station are not that often... Quite frustrating. its manageable but too low for my use. Also, i go to work with and there is 160 to go and come back ... some on highway where i barely can do it... No go sadly. monster make it twice and i m happy with it :) @@markellott5620
I like it! Really good look. I would like to see a scrambler model derived from this bike, hopefully lighter. Thanks for the video Motobob, very interesting, and also the glasses.
I have a 2023 Sport and absolutely love it!!! Dynotune, decat, Sawicki Speed slip on and mine stands up in the first 3 gears with just a bump of the throttle... Get out in 35 degree air and its like a turbocharger was added. Crazy rowdy bike!!!
Nice bike Rob, love that motor and had it in the Victory Octane, comes across like a bigger XSR700 or old school Monster.. Could you do a back to back test with Tim on the FTR v Sportster S or Monster SP? JB 🏴 👋 💡
The 2022 FTR R Carbon is still the best looking. My wife did 16k km already on it and she loves it. Indeed the stock version has some comfort problems but you can make it into an incredible comfortable machine with these mods: 1. Decat, K&N filter + Lloyds secret sauce tune (no more jerkiness, fiddling or cold start issues) 2. Sadleman seat + ProTaper handlebars + Gilles rearset (very comfortable position) 3. Suzuki GSXR link for the gear rod (no more false neutrals or problems between 5 to 6, also clicky gear changing makes it perfect) There you go, now you have the best looking bike, the best character and now the best comfort!
Brilliant Review Bob 👏 Real Muscle Bike. Loved the 👓 glasses they look great and make perfect motorcycle sense. I'd perfer the FTR in a classic version. Still think the Kawasaki z 900 is the bike King of Cool
Loved the FTR when it first came out, but now it's just another naked road bike and there's far better, lighter road nakeds out there. By making it 'better' they've lost the reason I'd buy one....
You have an interesting opinion of "flat foot" because it looks like you are on your toes on both feet, that is not flat foot. Having seen this bike in person, it looks better than in video, very cool looking small maching.
I've kept my 1st generation FTR because it just looks so good. I agree, it is a bit compromised, but it defies categories and I just love that about it. The new one, whilst nice, is starting to lose the individuality.
My favourite was the original and the base model with the round clock. I'd rather have my old Buell Ulysses, though. I bet you have never ridden the XB12X.
What would you consider a great WINTER bike. Something that is reliable in the cold. Good grip, doesn’t mind being dirty, not affected by Road grit much. Won’t kill you in the wet?😊
I ride a Kawasaki Z900 SE in all kinds of weather. Low seat, smooth throttle, shifting, and handling. Also a rain mode. Super easy to ride fast or slow.
They should build something similar to the MT-01 with their bigger water cooled V twin used on the Challenger. I find it attractive, specially on that paint scheme. HOWEVER, the negatives are too strong for me. Tiny fuel tank, too short suspension travel (at least on the rear) and too heavy. The massive muffler can probably be fixed easily for a lot of $. Why does it get an adjustable brake lever but not a clutch one ?
You can't call a bike a "sport" if you don't tweak the engine even a bit... Tiny improvements, paint job and a bellypan won't be enough for me, especially at 5kg extra on top of what is already a heavy bike... Lower seat is nice though 😊
The Rally looks great, but the sport versions are looking a bit cheesy and juvenile...with bright colors that wouldn't look out of place on a Yamaha...
Looks better (apart from the white).. but why the hell cant they add tank that then needs fueling before you need a piss..?!... case point.. why do you need maps when you have to keep stopping for gas and then can ask for directions. haha..
the grey on the 2023 carbon was definitely the wrong choice. I wish the frame, tail section, shock spring, rims, etc. were red on the carbon. bike like that should pop as you say. i drove one once, it was a very nice bike. I am not a fan of the sport's fairings and extra plastic bits though, this bike looks best when it embraces its flat track look. I mean, you sorta said it in the video...its chunky, other bikes are lighter...handle better and cost less...so why choose a FTR? cause its the only flat track/badsass looking bike out there...in that guise its beautiful and unapologetic...to add generic looking bits to it only detracts. The Sport version is the one to get for sure in terms of options and cost...just wish it had better color/graphic options...like a "sport heritage" where they take the black one, put the red wheels on, the carbon tank stickers/graphics and leave off the extra plastic bits...that would be money right there.
Everywhere. Everyone. What's with all the tiny tanks in the last 2 decades? "Oh.......these run on fuel? You actually wanted to go further than 50 miles?"
Gotta love guys who buy flat track style bikes to get a super sport 🤣 also 60-70 is second gear buddy 🤣 shoulda kept the 19/18 combo! I’d myself never buy a 17” ftr, not what it’s meant to be. You want a sport bike but a sport bike… or tune this gurl, de-cat/de-baffle, put a K&N in her and do 150 no problem with a real flat track bike not a poser “road focused mode” 🤣
Only three people complain that their rear sets are too high and too far back. Harley Davidson people, my grandmother and this guy. I will say this about the FTR.. the feeling of being swindled with that bitchin prototype tracker masterpiece floating in 2018, & that piece of S#%T pile that became production in 2019 is in my rear view. This new bike is actually,, dare I say surprisingly good🤯Have you guys ever ridden one one w/17’s? Literally the best thing Polaris, err Indian Motor Co has come out with in the past 5 yrs. Still ugly mind you.., but a perfect balance of a street machine with the capability of doing track days with some basic suspension tuning, slicks, and upgraded brake pads. Can’t believe I’m saying this about an Indian😂
Nothing wrong with the any of the early models, I purchased the 2020 FTR with 18 & 19 inch wheels because I love the old flat track style with spokes, However, I have redesigned all of its bodywork and decal graphics as pictured in my profile above, with an Evel Knievel Stars and Stripes and lowered the seat height in the process, to my knowledge there are now nine different FTR models but they all look pretty much the same other than decals and colours, I must admit that the early models got quite hot between the legs during a good blast through the twistys in the summer months so I designed a ram-air intake on the left side of the engine that seems to have cured the problem, I guess what I am trying to say is the designer should have taken a break in 2021, just saying,..Otherwise I Love Absolutely Everything About It,.. OAP Wales UK.
Guys Guys, I think there’s a misunderstanding going on here. I was talking about when Indian teased us for one year with the FTR prototype bike prior to the production model that has essentially been the same for the last five years . I understand the purpose of concept bikes is to stir the interest in potential buyers and gauge interest for manufacturers. I also understand that a vehicle in prototype form could differ greatly from concept due to cost, safety, emissions, noise, etc. That said, I feel cheated that almost nothing from the prototype bike they hyped came to fruition of what we can purchase today. Does this make sense now ? Copy/paste link below. I know you guys have seen this b4. Such a sick bike. Ahh what could have been😔 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UNrQDMZUxKk.htmlsi=QKbtg3EThOTimzgP
@@noonespecial1217 .. Fair play, taken out of context, understand and now agree with your argument, Oh there was one annoying thing that I didn't mention in my last comment: Indian Customer Service here in the UK is Shyte, I now carry out my own services and repairs for peace of mind.
Who actually buys this motorcycle as a scrambler to perform offroad and adventure riding?? With such huge engine of 1200cc capacity and the weight the comes with it, who on earth will ise this motorcycle for off road ridings, to go on trekking in woods and mountains and rocky terrain. It's absurd that this bike is designed as a scrambler. It's better on highway and sometimes in city on proper roads and to show off its massive and very cool looks.
I've never sampled the FTR1200. I did take the Scout out on demo and absolutely hated it. If the FTR engine is anything like the Scout, no thanks. Way too much vibration, felt like it didn't want to rev, wasn't all that quick, suspension beat me up after only 20 minutes, didn't particularly like the sound for a Vtwin. FTR better be seriously different than the Scout.
Very mixed comments. I loved the look of the original. Still quite like the looks of that. Bikini fairing thing is ugly. Agree with others commenting from Australia. Price is out there. But we pay through the nose for everything. Unlikely to ever ride one. Certainly can't afford one.
Happy with "flatfoot" so don't complain that foot pegs are high. You can't have a cake and eat it. Need for flat-footing is a nonsense. I say it over and over and over.... (Yes but beginners...) Beginners shouldn't ride bikes like this. (Yes but confidence...) You should have confidence with balls of your feet. Thumb up, great job otherwise
Might need a proper dyno tune and ECU flash to smooth out the throttle if possible. That's how a lot of bikes are these days with the throttle by wire.
Not really the same. Ducati monster is a pretty sporty bike where you sit hunched over. I had the previous generation monster a while ago. And the newer ducati monsters look like shit now, would definitely not buy them. Indian looks far better
