@@Alexius01 the point of reviews is to see if movies are worth watching. Not everyone wants to waste money something that'll suck. Not every review is right but just hearing what happens is enough to steer away from
@@Saltedroastedcaramel well there are good and bad reviews. Instead of just picking one side without seeing the movie isnt right imo.. since some reviews seem to extremely overexaggerate on certain things. It happened to many movies and the bast and this movie is no different
@@Alexius01 Yeah you're going to have shills rather than actual reviews. Even being told the movie is okay is a big risk to waste. Like I said, not everyone wants to waste their time on a two hour movie they already have a feeling it's going to be bad
One other missing aspect is the stunt work. Indy and James Bond movies were renowned for their death defying stunts using practical real world threats. You can't just CGI it and expect it to work.
Empty movie theaters playing Indiana Jones are a Liminal Space that instill dread and uncertainty to the odd passerby and curious unaccompanied child who told his dad he wanted to go to the restroom but in actuality want to roam about.
How many times will Kathleen Kennedy try to tell us the story in which she was supposed to be better than George Lucas and Steven Spielberg, yet got no credit? Judging by the quality of films she is able to produce, bringing these great men coffee was all she could handle.
Apparently Frank Marshall did like the coffee she made, and the rest is a living example of Murphy's Law part where people gets promoted until they reach their incompetence level.
This review deserves an award. It captures everything right with the first 3 Indiana Jones films and everything wrong with the latest failed attempt. You even mention the moral and spiritual aspects of the original movies which are really the heart of what makes them great. Bravo!
@@itsmatt517 Nah, I disagree, it sounds perfectly natural, there are none of the weird intonation and emphasis errors of usual text-to-speech simulators. It's rather, I think, that many RU-vidrs over-emote to make up for lack of talent or genuine personality.
Last Crusade also had great character arcs that made them feel relatable. Indy and his father always going past each other in their intend in each situation just to finally converge the moment his father calls him "Indiana".
I've come to think that KK really hates Lucas and Spielberg, and has since the 1980s, and has gotten her revenge, especially on George, by carefully and deliberately wrecking his creations, while he's alive to see it, and he can do nothing about it. Everything she does that looks to outsiders like incompetence is her vicious personal vendetta against a far more talented and creative man she hates like poison.
My thoughts exactly this is all way too calculated to just keep happening the same way over and over again. And to further this I think the government is paying Disney for their loses for pushing their agenda so hard.
That's because she was the real genius. Their mysogynies kept her down. She was never allowed her time to shine. Movies like Indy 5, and Rise of Skywalker prove it.
I've been saying for ages that you can't make an Indy film set in the (almost) 1970s. The whole point was a throwback to a different type of adventure serial, with a reflection on that period of the 1930s and 40s.
Nice analysis. What made all these franchises and characters successful was the honest attempt on behalf of the creators to bring the audiences a good story and a fun cinematic experience. The problem with movies today is that they have become pretentious, preachy, and stale. A clear reflection of their creator's intentions and character.
I get the feeling that the writers all sat around a whiteboard and called out Indy tropes which none of them truly understood. All they knew was that they needed an exciting opening scene, a fiesty female, a spunky child sidekick, a magical artefact, Nazis and globetrotting.
The real crime here is not a big stinker bomb of a movie or show we can just ignore and pretend doesn't exist. The real crime is that in many cases, this is the last time we can hope to get stars like Harrison Ford, Leonard Nimoy, Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher and Warwick Davis among others to saddle up and reprise roles. They can be recast or perhaps video faked, but the precious, unrecoverable chance for a final authentic performance has been lost. That I can neither forgive nor forget.
Deliberate. Marxist theory states the destruction of all previous culture must be effected before replacing with new ideaology. Disney,Bud,Sports, Star Wars ,Police,FBI pulled down. All the familiar goes,people are adrift. Nothing to frame the reference of their lives, cities gone. Now do you begin to see??
i can not understand how an actor can in such a late stage of their career do any movie that will make their iconic characters look so bad. This will be how they are remembered aftercall. Years from now after they are dead they will be fondly remembered as their greatest hits then the last thing the final note will be oh yeah their last film was that piece of crap. What happened to self worth or at the very least narcissism?
@@captainnayr It's about the paycheck, sure, but it's also about the fight between Harrison Ford and Samuel L. Jackson about who is the most bankable actor in history. It's probably also about revisiting that role for Ford. He wanted to go out with a bang and with audiences cheering. He underestimated just how much of a monster KK really is though. Seventy year old KK wanted to promote PWB as her successor and used Dial of Destiny as a vehicle to make that happen.
Here's a crazy idea. Crystal Skull was awful but it did introduce us to Indy and Marion's child, Mutt and saw Indy finally marrying Marion. Let's imagine a prestige series, ala Young Indy TNG: Mutt is attending classes at University, perhaps even one taught by his Dad where he is working his way to an archaeology degree. Mutt isn't a gifted academic, he might even have a touch of dyslexia, but he's toughing his way through. Mutt still has his bike shop where he sleeps in a small back room. This gives an excuse to constantly be having gorgeous vintage bikes in various states of disassembly wandering through the background. He visits his parents from time to time, maybe for Thanksgiving Dinner. People still come to Indy with their problems despite his advanced age. Indy has a something, and needs to be hospitalized, the mission has to go, he calls on Mutt. Mutt goes off to solve whatever the problems is/find the lost artifact/steal the military secret/etc. There could be one or more beautiful good girls back home who help Mutt in school and beautiful/dangerous girls in the world maybe a Soviet agent and/or some sort of rival agent from business/other academic institutions etc. Lots of globe trotting in the fifties and sixties, kind of Indiana Jones meets Mad Men. Probably would have to recast Shia. I think it could do well.
You know, it sounds like simple plot, but thats all we need. we dont need to reinvent the wheel, just give us that sense of adventure that the originals gave us. As bad as crystal skull was, i didnt hate Mutt and i assumed that if a movie came after it would follow him more. at least this movie makes me look at crystal skull more fondly lol
This review really highlights the value of your analysis. There's too many people on this platform complaining about movies without being specific. That's like arguing about pineapple on pizza. it's pointless and nothing is gained, a matter of preference. You talk about themes, tone, style, character. I always look forward to your new posts because I know I'm going to learn something. Thank you.
Wow, just imagine going to the cinema and witnessing a young man punching an eighty year old woman in the face and knocking her out. It would break the world.
Best genuine proper MEMORABLE laugh in the last few years was seeing Captain Marvel smack an old smiling lady but only in the context of that trailer, it was so jarring 😂, I didn't see the film.
It’s an 80 year old Harrison Ford. In the film it’s a 70 year old Indiana Jones. I’ve calculated this based on Henry Jones Junior birthdate being July 1st 1899. The film is set in 1969
One of the best reviews I've seen about the "new version" of a classic saga. Your analysis of what makes Indiana Jones actually Indiana Jones is awesome.
I don’t even count this new Indiana Jones as a real sequel, I consider it a parody. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, even with its fault’s, I still personally found very entertaining.
KOCS substitutes silly alien garbage for the greater mysteries represented by the Ark and the Grail. For me, that's why TOD is a lesser movie than the other two, and anything past Last Crusade doesn't even register.
@@cjraymond8827 I agree, the sloppiness of the characterizations and reliance on CGI is what bothered me of what I saw of that film. I shook my head when I saw that sequence, really bad. Creative live action set pieces that were hard to do well made the first two films stand out. It all seemed believable. A two-and-a-half-hour movie with extended chase sequences (to create excitement and conflict) and reports of the French audience talking to each other does not bode well for a gripping and believable story. Mr. H Reviews on U-Tube also posted a negative review.
Grew up in the era of the Saturday afternoon kids matinee. For fifty cents admission you got 10 cartoons, a short feature and a serial. The Indiana Jones movies reminds me of the cliffhangers of yesteryear. I had a somewhat dismal childhood and movies and TV back then were an escape from those troubles. Todays films take the innocence out of a kids life by presenting them with concepts they're not ready to deal with. And the fun of going to the movies for adults.
Rest in piece Indy. They murdered you (and your son), and defiled the corpse. But what upsets me most is how the truly talented people who worked on this film are getting dragged down with the hack writing, social justice virtue-signalling and gender politics. I firmly believe that this period of cinema will be remembered like the plague-era of the middle ages.
They won't say it outright because they'll look stupid when that's not how it will be remembered. I'd suggest you watch some reviews by people who don't 'rage for views' like performing seals at a zoo.
Yes, doesn't make sense, it seems the art director for the CGI artists probably failed to do any serious research, came up with it. Vertical tails were never placed at midspan, this would increase loads on the airframe and possibly causing flutter and drag. This would also interfere with the rear top gunner's field of fire, bad idea. Small twin tails used as endplates worked well, however, increasing control and the effective span of the tail, see the various examples. Also, see Heinkel's 219 and 274 4 engine aircraft designs for inspiration, apparently not considered here.
All of modern Hollywood is an empty slog, the interminable death march of the reanimated corpse of the wonder and joy of yesterday's cinematic tours de force.
I'm just kind of sad that they did ANOTHER passing the mantle movie, but because they didn't have anyone half as charismatic and likeable as Dr. Jones to pass it on to, they decided to drag him down so his replacement would look acceptable by comparison.
Agree, they need to learn about what made the classics so great in the first place, in other words, hire better writers to do original stories, we don't need more remakes and sequels.
Brilliant dissertation on this one! In better hands this swan song of the franchise could have been an epic finale to a largely coherent and enjoyable franchise, but alas it was not to be. And it really should have. Raiders can never be topped and I'm grateful to have at least that.
You saying that Mangold is not Spielberg reminds me of the scene in Ford vs. Ferrari when Enzo tells the execs to go back to Ford and tell him that he is not his grandfather. Delicious. Lol
I wish we had a fifth movie with something more about the time the era the movie was set in rather than wacky time travel shenanigans. Just imagine a scenario where Indiana Jones has to face against the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia to recover powerful artifacts, I'd watch that
They got the Recipe wrong. Apparently the opening Act, so about 30 or so minutes with Past Indy was really Good, but then tanks immediately afterwards as if written by the songwriter for the Spice Girls. The chosen McGuffin is Outside the Subgenre as Chamberlain points out, it Doesn't Belong because that's a Scifi Scifantasy Gimmick Type and Not a Archeological Adventurer Vs Lethal Grade Competition Vs a Mystical/Supernatural/Magic Grade McGuffin, Usually Inspired by Real World History and MYTHOLOGY. There are a literal FukTon of Amazing things from our Real History with Allllll the Proper Ingredients to make this true Classic Beef and Potatoes Dinner Feast that is Americana and Pure Indiana Jones. Crystal Skull Started with those elements then turned the Skulls from Human Shaped to Alien Greys Skulls, the Ancient Ruins were just a Decorated Camouflage for a Trans dimensional Flying Saucer. The Skulls should have led to Some Treasure of Some Sort, something that Would be of Immense Value. It, like the Ark of the Covenant could Also be Extremely Dangerous. For instance it is Rumored that the Actual Ark, Supposedly, in Somalia I think, has Guardians...who go Blind from their close proximity to the artefact, medical examinations of those rotated out guards results are in line with Radiation damage. The Key is Separating the Real World Implications of such a thing in a Fiction from a Science Based explanation and Keeping it in the Mystical and Supernatural explanation to stay in like with the Indiana Jones franchise. How many Indiana Jones titles can You come up with that fall in line with this Specific Sub Genre? I'll throw a few of my own down here and feel free if any catch hour attention as Worthy inferred story ideas. Indiana Jones: The Road to ATLANTIS (Self explanatory) Indiana Jones and The Knights Templar (In a National Treasure kinda vein) Indiana Jones and The Underworld of Egypt. (Apparently there's an entire City under some of the big temples and pyramids with a whole Lore behind it that I found Immensely intriguing. So Kinda Temple of Doom like but instead of the Mining Temple, it's an Egyptian Land of the Dead Undercity full of traps and Spirits safeguarding something Bad Guys would Kill Hundreds or Thousands even to attain.) Indiana Jones and the Golden Fleece Indiana Jones and the Dragon of Shangri-La Indiana Jones: Pandoras Box Indiana Jones and the Spear of Destiny (because every few stories it's an easy go to do an Adventure in Christian Mythology with two thirds of the OT trilogy being inspired by that. Kind of a trilogy of themed stories within the franchise.) Indiana Jones and the Terracotta Army (gets a little close to a Tomb Raider / The Mummy feel though) Indiana Jones and The Horn of Valhalla I think Any one of these ideas would have worked quite well. Let's hear Yours? I bet the list we all come up with could Embarrass Lucasfilm, KK and Disney if published on it's own.
I agree, these are possible ideas for good movies. However, during the period when these could have been made Harrison Ford was booked solid with blockbuster film projects that he chose to do instead. A story treatment is not a screenplay, and stars, directors, and producers need to be brought together to sign off for it to have a chance in a competitive market.
As so often, you put a to clear words what I’ve been thinking. I love Raiders more than any other movie. I’ve seen it maybe 20 times. If I catch the start on TV I cannot resist watching it all. So disappointed to see what they did to it
If the rumors about an original ending involving Phoebe Hapsburg, taking the hat and whip are right, that would explain Spielberg and Lucas dropping all the way out
The rhythm of speech in this is unsettling. I can't decide if it's a text-to-speech robot or if a human being can do this. That aside, 10/10 content, I agree completely, would -listen- read again 👍👍
Most of that "romanticism" that defined the Indy movies in the past would be taken in a rather straight-faced manner as something akin to blackface or some callous, offensive stereotype
It was painful enough watching the last Jones movie (Crystal skull). I won’t watch this one even when it’s free on TV. I want to retain my good memories of those great and fun Indiana movies!
I really wish we'd gotten a second Tintin movie instead, and I'm not a big fan of mo-cap. But if it's mostly cgi anyway, what's the point? The original Indy movies are exciting because you're seeing real stunts in real environments, there's depth and texture.
