I kinda viewed it as a reminder of what he's lost. Noticed how when he talked to the Cat he stated "I WAS only 10 years old", past tense. He's spent 7 years on this train, his entire childhood, essentially robbed from him and the worst part is that he has enough self awareness to know this. To know his childhood shouldn't have been this, it should have been better and yet for some reason he's stuck on this train. Then comes this person, essentially telling him that everything he's believed in, what got him through this hell/reason for why he's been put through this is wrong and then calls him something that he knows he'll never be.
And yet, at the same time, Simon has remained a child all these years. He refused to give a red wave to Tuba, saying they are for kids only, yet continues to wear his own despite being a young adult. Simon’s trauma and the Apex’s ideology have kept him from growing as a person, and he has rejected every opportunity for growth this journey has presented him with. He lost his childhood to the Infinity Train, wallows in the emptiness it left behind, and dives deeper and deeper into it until he drowns.
We need more villains that are sympathetic but are not redeemed. Just because you can understand why someone got to where they are doesn't mean they are justified and it doesn't mean they are going to change.
It all depends on how the Villain is portrayed or if redemption is fitting. Simon in this series was so bent on achieving the Apex; it only broke him down personally. The pain of loss, betrayal, and abandonment broke him apart and Grace's betrayal was the straw that broke the camel's back. He never realizes his mistakes until its too late.
Given that Simon's deep seeded issues that brought him to the train was Abandonment, trust issues, and lacking purpose. Grace and Simon's failures to recognize the number was meant to decrease had solidified his doom; which is a sin that Grace will have to eventually overcome. It was her misinterpretation that set him down the path of failure. Simon has tasted betrayal and abandonment so often, it can break a man down. Grace's revelation was too much for him to handle, let alone meeting Amelia that confronted that everything he believed in was a lie from the start.
He's such a scary, loud man. My fear of men did not appreciate the scene where he tells Lake that "he's talking now"... just a thoroughly awful human being.
This scene represents what happens when angry kids and teens challenge the world around them without thinking first. Simon is challenging authority by trying to kick Amelia down. But she is unimpressed because she knows he's just acting like a child. This is like a school playground and Amelia is the teacher who has to get the kids under control before they hurt themselves.
I believe that hazel turning into a monster is symbolical, like, when parents fight infront of their kids their traumatize them and metaphorically turn them into a monster...
@@yellowengine6915 In this case, no, it's actually sine. It's a math term for a basic wave pattern (which is the mark Apex puts on their faces). It's part of a set of three similar functions: sine, cosine, and tangent.
I remember someone said how funny it would be that Amelia developed the sound shield after book one in case she had to throw hands with a kid ever again
He acts like such a brat, interrupting Amelia explaining her backstory, he finds out she was the false conductor and thinks "well so what, she just lost her way, the "true" way!" And when hes straight up called a child, he goes into a fucking tantrum!
This was the one moment Simon completely blew to admit he was wrong and possibly the most infuriating, because he behaves like a spoiled child not wanting to admit he was wrong and gaslighting everyone. Folks will say he meets with the sad fate in the end but this guy gets exactly what is coming to him.
I mean, both are true. It’s tragic just how mentally unstable he became, but no amount of trauma justified all the shit he did. It’s tragic, but he deserved it.
Grace is definitely a good person now, but a big part of that is her fault. She indoctrinated Simon with her childish ideology from the start, he centered his entire life around the idea she put in their heads. He can't give it up, it would mean that everything he ever believed in was pointless.
@@Mediados I think that what didn't help Simon was that he felt betrayed by the Cat before meeting Grace, and then Grace saves him and tells him she knows how the train work, when she actually has no idea and just make it up. Even when she later admit that she actually didn't know, Simon is too far gone to change, especially when he understands that he believed wrong the entire time, and it breaks him mentally, as seen when he pushes Grace off the train, he laughs manically then starts crying, completely being over the edge. And then he dies. Death was probably a relief to him, even if his death was painful.
I think the only thing that would make Simon think would be asking him why he is in the train in the first place. The saddest part for me is that he had number 55 which wasnt high... one terrible experience (samantha leaving him) and one lie from Grace made snowball effect.
I think Simon getting mad after being called a child further shows that Amelia’s claim was true since a mature person would just shrug it off in reality though here he is so offended by it so yeah he is technically a child despite his age
He was a child when he got on the train, and embraced a lifestyle where he never had to mature. It’s never easy to be told that you’ve wasted half your life, with the very real prospect of spending another “half” making amends and rebuilding who you are from the ground up.
I think it was more Amelia's truth vs Simon's lie, Amelia was saying the real thing about the train, while Simon, who was falsely told otherwise, didn't accept the truth and tried to fight her for "losing her ideology". So you have the ugly truth told by Amelia vs the beautiful lie that Simon believed for years.
This clip was my first meeting with Infinity Train. I had no clue about who is whom, numbers, The Conductor and everything else. I've thought it's a show just about Simon and Grace, who travel with Hazel in order to explore the Train and Amelia was some kind of a "guide" for all of them. I was so much intrigued, that I've decided to watch the show. Oh boy, how wrong I was back then.
Did Simon see how buff Amelia is in the first place? Boy was about to get tossed across the room with his knockoff 3D maneuver gear and she wouldn't even need the belt in the first place
He wasn’t thinking about that. He could only think about it like a child… because he got on the train as one, and actively avoided any chance to mature.
0:58 That's a really good question to ask, Amelia Just, next time, let him a chance to answer before assuming he didn't due to being a child. (I know it is mostlikly true, and Simon would have answer something like "No because I'm never wrong" but still)
Hey, at the very end of the season he did say, " Why would I want to change, when I'm always right?" Theres the answer I wanted to hear from him confirming hes a child!
@@PatZalatoris I know that! But my point was that Amelia should have been a bit more patient and let Simon answer first (even when the answer was obvious) because by treating Simon like a child, she made his situation worst.
@@syrusangi8743 I know 😒 Still not a reason for not letting him think and answer first. It's call being polite and patient. Only after that she could have treating him as a child.
It wasn’t _his_ way. He got on the train as a child, and actively avoided any chance to mature. The last thing he wanted to hear was that he wasted years of his life, idolizing a woman who wasted even _more_ of hers.
Ngl Seeing Simon act like a chld was annoying, but you can understadn where he is coming from. Doesnt make it rght, like at all. And we know where this leads him. I always found it chilling that Amelia threatened to kill him. The way she says it so bluntly and emotionlessly. It 100% hints she done this before
Classic teenage hypocrisy. They hate adults and try to bring them down and yet they desperately want to be seen as adults themselves just to fan the flames of the selfish self absorbed egos
@@zacharyyamashita8554 probably because you grew up in a safe and loving environment and weren’t traumatized. That’s the norm. It isn’t normal for teens to hate adults/their parents, when they do it’s usually because they’ve had experiences in their life (abuse, neglect, etc) that taught them to distrust and resent them on some level.
I have a theory. Amelia’s number isn’t really the highest. Sure it’s the highest in terms of absolute value, but I believe it’s actually in the negatives. Hear me out, the exit door only opens when a number hits 0. However, no one is forced to go into said exit door, and they have the chance to stay. Their number can be any integer, which means any positive OR negative number is viable as well as 0. So I believe she had a problem, went through the leg work to heal her problem, and she got down to 0, but when the exit appears she refused to enter it, seeing how the other people on the train needed her help, so she didn’t take the door and instead helped people, which caused her number to turn negative and thus, make the door disappear since the door only appears when a number equals 0. However, she helped so many people over the years that it only looked like she had the biggest number, when in reality, she had the exact opposite fate.
Of course, that begs the question of how numbers would change if you were in the negatives. Does doing good and promoting healing always make your number go down, or does it bring it closer to zero? When you're in the positives, there's no distinction, but it would be a different story in the negatives. If it's 'get closer to zero', then Amelia's atonement would still be making her number shrink (unless she's secretly setting up another selfish ploy to trick everyone and continue to avoid her problems, which seems unlikely). On the other hand, if doing what they're supposed to do to heal always makes the number go 'down', then anyone who 'skipped' over zero would basically be trapped forever as long as they kept doing good works. If that's the case, would Amelia have to go back to screwing everyone over (undoing her atonement) if she ever wanted to leave?
@@backgroundnpc9631 she would. however that doesn’t mean she has to be malicious to go home. She just has to not be very helpful to the train. For example, not giving advice to those who need it could send her number closer and closer to 0. On the flip side tho, the further she is in the negatives the more privileges she has on the train. This explains how she is one of the conductors who rule over the train. One-one is the tool, but Amelia is the one who wields the tool.
@@jaykay8426 Still seems a little counter-intuitive... the more helpful she is, the longer she has to be 'unhelpful' to, essentially, atone for her atonement? If I could offer an edit to the theory, I'd agree that deeper negative numbers give her more options with the train, but being below zero means she can actually leave whenever she wants; she just doesn't want to, either because she doesn't accept that she's done enough yet or because she secretly likes her new role. Or, alternatively, what if she can use her negative numbers as a sort of currency to interfere on other passengers' behalf? Jam hazards, rearrange cars, that sort of thing? That would be a way to get back to zero without abandoning her character arc.
@@jaykay8426 True, but these would be unique circumstances. If being in the negatives means you can leave whenever, it's not a stretch to think you can summon the door when you decide it's time to leave (or it only appears once you make that decision), rather than one always being open nearby.
I will never understand what I see as idiotic downvoting. What the hell arr they doing? This is not an opinion piece to agree or disagree with; it’s a specific clip the person actively clicked on to view
@@MsScarletwings Learning there are probably-possibly bots that exist to downvote randomized videos that have nothing to agree/disagree with is how another little part of my soul withers.
@@wander1139 Funny thing is both the god he was taught to worship and the girl who started the cult with him by lying to him about why they were on the train changed and do try to become better people and redeem themselves for what they did unlike him. He never changed, never wanted to be wrong, and went off the deep end knowing he was wrong but refused to admit it as it would have meant he wasted years of his life for nothing over a lie made by his best friend, and it broke him completely just before his death.
To be honest, I thought that in the original Simon's voice would be hoarse and rough, but they simply translated him into Russian with such a voice that he has, but not in the original, Simon has a high voice
You didn’t mishear her. She had the unenviable job of informing two teenagers that they each wasted half their lives, and would probably need to spend another “half” rebuilding who they were in order to get off the train.
