Insane Travel Off Road Pendulum Car Suspension! (Scrap Mechanic

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Hey everyone back again in Scrap Mechanic with the SwinCar! This is a pendulum car suspension, modelled after the French Swincar! Also referred to as a spider car this design has a total of 10 blocks of suspension travel!
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@kANGaming 7 лет назад

Hey everyone reply to this comment if you have a swin car you'd like me to try! Workshop link will be coming later!

@PErik-sq9rv 7 лет назад

kAN Gaming what is the name of intro song

@brintjenkins7420 7 лет назад

kAN Gaming you should make a car that goes up and down as it drives

@rusted-iron4360 7 лет назад

You need to make the center of mass on the v.3 lower, because its almost at the pivit point so the force is really weak. add some more metal blocks at the bottom and it doesent help if you make it heavyer you need to move the mass center

@lilwashu 7 лет назад

hopefully not too much later, i think i have an answer for how to fix your problem, but i cant actually test it till i get a copy of your vehicle

@kANGaming 7 лет назад

I'll have it up later today when I'm back from work.

@hype4283 7 лет назад

You just answered my physics homework

@d8str014 4 года назад

HeatGaming good for you

@sjrajan 4 года назад

HeatGaming good for you and only you

@danielwynter6339 6 лет назад

the gravity efect on bearings are not updating fast, to reduce lag. try adding a block to the car when its slanted, you will see it forces an update and the car should level out

@kylelarkin9631 7 лет назад

I've been messing around with suspension ideas, and I've found that suspensions built in a loop like yours act like weak stabilizers. Might be why it takes so long to straighten itself out.

@MyHandleIsGood 7 лет назад

Why don't you make a Y or triangular wishbone? I also think that instead of using wishbone steering use a steering rack, or won't that work?

@MyHandleIsGood 7 лет назад

Thanks kAN, the car you made is awesome.

@spencerhryciw4194 7 лет назад

Hey kAN, you could use a gas engine to make a torsional spring. You just need to have a low-powered gas engine hooked up to the bearing and make the engine stay on all the time

@simonpettersson7781 7 лет назад

the culd fix the waight thing but it wold lag so mutch becus every block on a new bearing wold count as a new mashen i am from sweden so i am not that good at english

@josephpbrown 7 лет назад

Translation: You could fix the weight thing but it would lag so much because every block on a new bearing would count as a new machine.

@phenixgacha2357 5 лет назад

du u kno pewds

@micromoron3309 4 года назад

a better way to solv the problem of the self centering would be to make the parallelogram linkage differently to have more leverage against the suspension.

@micromoron3309 4 года назад

in fact, you'd probably only have to move the outer top two bearings up one block to gain enough mechanical advantage.

@shahnawazazam 5 лет назад

How many cars do you know that can have 4 tyres in four different directions? Answer: 1, invented by kAN in scrap mechanic

@nathaneveleigh7848 7 лет назад

KAN, Look at the science. I'm the gif, the car is design to work with Earth's gravity and Scrap Mechanic is actually on another planet, you actually need to use equations to determine the gravutaional acceleration on THAT planet and not use Earth's gravity to create you creations

@mohammadarrayan3972 3 года назад

Kan : *made a brik* Also kan : *sometimes brick is the most efficient shape*

@Tempus00 4 года назад

Rewatching and reading these comments 2 years later made me so happy, you sounded so childish in the video, so so much softer, and i cant understand why

@PantherDave 4 года назад

A pendulum hanging from a fixed point will of course align to gravity. However, you don't have that. The main pivot point you speak of is not fixed. Your double-wishbone mechanism locks the body angle to the wheel angle which tilts the whole thing. So really, you're pivoting the whole vehicle off the bottom of your wheels. When the vehicle is angled, it has to lift much of the vehicle upwards against gravity in order to align the body.

@gameboyterrorysta6307 7 лет назад

You need bonus shock absorbers at dual wishbone at both sides. This idea is used commonly in trucks without travel bridge, that are quite the same as in this dual wishbone part. So... just add susp at 2-3 strength just for centering.

@legobuildingsrewiew7538 7 лет назад

Ździsław Źdźbło ye

@leonspitzer2196 7 лет назад

I really enjoy your videos, keep it up 👌🏻

@jackjones5114 7 лет назад

Do a plane dog fight with friends

@griff1089 7 лет назад

Ya made a suspension glitch that's why it doesn't work properly

@cgitech2066 7 лет назад

thats right but that can be solvedby putting more weight at the sides so the suspension glitch isnt as strong as the gravity

@kANGaming 7 лет назад

griff I'm confused where the suspension glitch is though... I could try it without suspension at all I guess and see if that helps

@meertch 7 лет назад

You can add another set of bearings facing forwards or backwards perpendicular to the set on the elbow pieces holding the suspension in place, that should work??? I'd have to fiddle with it for a bit to confirm that.

@neko7684 7 лет назад

When I make a double wishbone suspension it makes a suspension glitch and it annoyed the crap out of me you could try using Pistons instead of suspension pieces since Pistons act like suspensions if there is enough weight in the car

@vibaj16 4 года назад

@@neko7684 I am VERY late, but pistons also make a stabilization glitch

@genocidal_clip_dump 4 года назад

6:34 Kan just painted white with a black spray can?

@philip6484 7 лет назад

The second version is so goofy lol

@gamernatemoore8029 4 года назад

I know you commented 2 years ago but I gotta ask...why the hell are there so many people with your pfp?

@soxxz2028 4 года назад

@@gamernatemoore8029 yes

@edvin2163 7 лет назад

I'd say a 4 link solid axle suspension works better but i know thats not the point of the video

@creativemind42069 4 года назад

The car body needs a gyro, but that would make it too big plus if you hit terrain it would get messed up

@akshajajay5900 7 лет назад

Kan can you make a moped or a bike in scrap mechanic.i think it's gonna be fun make small thing like that

@manishaghosh2389 7 лет назад

for next multiplayer Monday you can build a car that doesn't drive under direct control but with wasd converter

@adonismustafa7553 7 лет назад

You should check out xsponturbox for camber suspension he has a youtube channel

@madjoemak 7 лет назад

Maybe if the mass moves to the middle it requires for the whole mass to move up meaning that when it's standing it's actually balanced.

@metelluscimber 7 лет назад

that's pretty boss. is the suspension not freaking out because the vehicle is so light and it's not direct downward pressure? every time I've tried to build something in the past couple of months the last joint at the bottom of suspension comes loose and swivels around while in motion.

@mcmakku6970 7 лет назад

I think you should make the drop pods into ejection seats or pods in a vehicle or something

@foxboi9032 3 года назад

THE WISHBONES THEY ARE UNABLE TO SHIFT TO THE SIDE. srry, the wishbones need to shift to the side

@danedraper2739 Год назад

Maybe, just maybe, it's because the game isn't calculating the gravity of the pendulum seat. It's calculating the gravity of the car chassis and applying that to the seat. Suspension makes your game lag because it makes the object on the other end have its own set of physics, so, if you put suspension in-between the pendulum seat and the chassis, it will calculate gravity physics for the seat too. Similar thing happens with water. The game calculates the contact with the base, but not the paddles. When you add suspension to the paddles, it calculates physics for the paddles, collision with water. Maybe the game isn't calculating the physics for the seat just the chassis and applying those gravity physics to the seat too. Just put suspension and it will calculate gravity physics for the seat.

@jakekennedy1131 2 года назад

You need trailing arms to help maintain center. You have Y and Z axis suspension but no counteracting force on your X axis. Make your lower control arm attach to the body via trailing arm. Put 2 axis bearings on it so it follows your control arms. Great stuff, man!

@DW_Death 5 лет назад

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not an engineer, but the body, the pivot and the top of the double wishbone construction together act as a lever right? The body acting as the long arm, the pivot as the fulcrum and the double wishbone as the short arm. Would it not be more beneficial to have a longer body then as opposed to a taller wishbone construction? Also, a couple of weak springs might make the wishbone straighten out more, but it would also lower the differential height between the wheels at their maximum, so there might not always be full contact with the ground. Just my two cents, nice build!

@cgitech2066 7 лет назад

maybe you can make the body wider so the weight is easier to stabelize

@stevepittman3770 4 года назад

So I realize you will probably not see this comment on a 2 year old video, but.. I've messed with a lot of weird suspension setups in scrap mechanic, and that slow return to center looks like you've got a suspension glitch somewhere in there that provides a counteracting force.

@micromoron3309 4 года назад

the problem with version 3 is the parallelogram linkage. If you had a linkage that had more mechanical advantage, it would enable the weight of the body of the car to find equilibrium more effectively.

@rexsterlingbuchanan2929 4 года назад

You have looked up what a double Wishbone actually looks like right? I mean I'm just saying I don't even see a single Wishbone. Wishbo es are shaped like wishbones that's where they got their name

@yousillygoose6958 2 года назад

Couldn't you just widen the body so the gravitational dispersion force would be greater per each side? I just made up a lot of words.

@livingcarbon7286 4 года назад

the connection points to attach to the body need pistons in order for the body and suspension to be considered two separate entities thus allowing the body to be pulled to gravity all the time... at lest that's my theory. now this was over two years ago but I would love to see if that fixed your issue...

@pigeonpallz1733 7 лет назад

Literally everyone who does scrap mechanic copies comodo gaming with the beginning of their videos lol

@djackson37 2 года назад

Maybe putting uncontrolled bearings will solve the chassis not obeying physics

@crazyjack3357 3 года назад

Just recently seen a guy make double wish bone suspension that doesn't have the suspension glitch

@anguswood9258 6 лет назад

Stupid question but is it possible to link an differential to this between the wheels? You would need to have the actuall shaft between the diff and the wheel to be able to stretch.

@Acecool 4 года назад

Can't find it on workshop. Can find a lot of 'for kan' stuff; but not this. No link in description either.

@nickdiasio9303 7 лет назад

You may as well have just spoken Chinese the whole video and I would have understood it the same.

@foxboi9032 2 года назад

Hey Kan, I was really interested in this video so I decided to try and make one as well, I actually succeeded and would like for you to see it

@jackmesser4678 7 лет назад

Nice vid kan

@StuffedDonut 6 лет назад

clicked off because of the crappy triangle music -_-

@Ilmgc1 2 года назад

I think that It is kinda crazy that he was one of the first people to make the most popular suspension in sm

@jackjones5114 7 лет назад

Do a mech battle with your friends

@lilwashu 7 лет назад

hey kan, new update released You can now play Scrap Mechanic in Chinese. Updated all languages with more translations. Fixed bug that didn’t let the player weld when it should be possible to weld. Remade the welding particles and added bounce to the welding particle. Fixed bug where welding particles didn’t spawn. Fixed so bearings on a creation are still stable after getting welded. The delay when pointing on larger creations with a weld tool or a lift is now optimized. Bearings that touch an object will now stick to that object when building. This makes it easier to build awesome fork suspension that have two bearings attached to each side of the wheel. Fixed a common crash in the blueprint import and export guis. Fixed a common crash when starting the game. Fixed the teleport distance when falling trough the ground. Improved the driving even more with a less bumpy ground. Added arrows when placing a part and adjusting its position on a surface. This is to make it easier to understand how the object can be dragged within the placement spot. Fixed a crash when building huge Logic gate creations. and pistons are coming

@finnbuhse4775 6 лет назад

so your saying in the video the body isnt heavy enough, y u dont make the body heavier?

@legobuildingsrewiew7538 7 лет назад

MATE PUT SPRINGS BETWEEN THE 2 WISHBONES ON THE ENDS!!!!!!!!!!! IT WILL STRAIGHTEN!!

@Kcool1OO 7 лет назад

I tried adding a really basic gyro to the bottom of the cab and it -SORT OF- helped...?! I do think the main issue is Scrap Mechanic's physics, though.

@rafaelthead 4 года назад

Does this work in survival in 2020? I tried replicating it up to the last bearing but it folds when driving, I tried the workshop version in creative and it works perfectly. Im not sure what the problem is, I checked every detail, but I did notice that the wheels tend to split apart from the bearing that holds the wheel and suspension with the pivot bar. Ideas anyone?

@kevinroyal3470 4 года назад

U could of just put the platform on free floating barings

@diegohuijbregtsgarcia5102 4 года назад

I was actually building this, double wishbones + pendulum, and the gravity problem still exists. That's what got me here. For now, I've added springs to each corner with long pivoting arms to the axles, it greatly wastes the potential of it all, but it's the best option if you don't feel like building a lift every 5 seconds.

@Daybyday91 7 лет назад

what if you use the big spings/shocks connected from wishbone to body on 90deg. pipe have spring rate soft so it will travel but the spring will make it return

@lucacapperucci8711 7 лет назад

UGH so many times this has happened. I try a cool idea. I fail at it. I work harder and spend more time at it. do a good job but still doesn't work because scrap mechanic physics are not correct. In a physical world logic-based game, physics have to be as accurate as possible. I think that is the main problem for sm.

@lilwashu 7 лет назад

was watching your stream earlier, and you said you were having issues with this car, and i was sitting there thinking "wow, what on earth could stump kan?" and then you post this video and you show the video and im like "OH CRAP, yeah that would be hard in this game"

@ThouReaper2.0 7 лет назад

I didn't keep it because it had the same issue that you were having, and I had used a suspension going straight across the body so then the car leans it puts pressure on the suspension. it worked pretty well except you had to get the correct suspension setting or else it wouldn't work at all or just lock the body at the same angle as the suspension.

@mythicalknights169 7 лет назад

Try adding suspension from the bottom of each side of the wish bones to the body to force it to straighten out.

@MrLarsgren 7 лет назад

it should be possible with a double wishbone. toparms is fitted to something connected with steering and move wheel angle to the side youre turning.

@kolsumn 6 лет назад

I think the problem is that when Scrap Mechanic doesnt detect enough movement it just stops the object from moving to save resources (so the game doesnt have to calculate shadows etc.)

@Duke00x 5 лет назад

Make the bottom layer of blocks out of heavier blocks.

@HexaBurger 4 года назад

Why do i have comments to i video i didnt watch on a minecraft video

@Wreckedftfoxy 3 года назад

i need this for my piston engine cars XD

@richardjoyce1102 7 лет назад

7:30, the reason it doesn't level out is because the distance between the wheels changes, and the wheels are slowly sliding the wrong direction

@aceofkings3388 7 лет назад

have you tried making an exact replica of the mechanism used in the GIF?

@aaaaaahhhhhh2 3 года назад

Hey kan try redoing it now there might be a difference

@hunterscott5917 7 лет назад

You should do a multiplayer Monday where you all pick a random car from your saved cars

@MrPucenty 6 лет назад

I think installing suspension on the upper bars would fix a problem ;)

@mudkips2368 7 лет назад

Kan I've been watching alot of harry potter recently. Can you and some othet people make a scrap mechanic sizef Hogwarts?

@thatshinyglaceon9612 7 лет назад

Kan the problem with version 3 is that you used double wishbone instead of single wishbone

@thatshinyglaceon9612 7 лет назад

Well as in the second wishbone is in the way

@vilho4649 7 лет назад

hello KAN can u play with me some timen

@codygaming181 7 лет назад

I know how it won't do it fast enough one of the pivot points is stoping the other pivot point from swaying

@kANGaming 7 лет назад

Jack Sahr See I thought that too but real life physics says it should work. good ol scrap mechanic physics

@konstatinos1zt411 4 года назад

Why don't use the Gravity mode

@strelokzone89 3 года назад

multiplayer Pendulum truck race!

@soccertg0376 7 лет назад

it folds because it is the shaped of a box

@elgurkus6885 7 лет назад

You realy need to make a crossover with wanderbots.

@nfsprogamer6257 7 лет назад

Kan you could use durf's modpack( the ultra heavy block) for the weight

@nfsprogamer6257 7 лет назад

forget about it I didn't watch the end

@kANGaming 7 лет назад

Justice Gamer Lol I was gonna link you the time for that part XD

@zh9664 7 лет назад

its SWING car! not swin car!

@EggsInGravy 3 года назад

This was 2017...3....years.....ago

@lilwashu 7 лет назад

steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=952558681 i fixed it, mostly, the height in which the wheels can go has been lowered, ill work on that, but at least i got the stability working

@kANGaming 7 лет назад

matt le'mon I'll check this out later! Seems like you lowered the stability point and added more in behind?

@lilwashu 7 лет назад

just updated it, but yes, i added more on both sides of the suspension, it needed a fourth bar from what i found, also needed some lower and wider angles, and i also added wheel steering since i couldnt figure out how to get it to turn properly as always, im happy to help ^_^

@lilwashu 7 лет назад

i did a lot, honestly i just threw stuff at a wall and seen what stuck, originally i was thinking a counter balance would work... but then i decided a fourth beam would work better, and actually both sides are now identical, i updated my current build, with the side that works better, but so far im not having too many problems, i also added wheel steering on the current one, since tilt works good... i guess, but having the wheels turn is so much nicer, about the only thing is the wheels dont lift as high as they used too, but i figure thats something you can tweak on your own :D sorry i didnt paint the bearing black