Inside the black hole image that made history | Sheperd Doeleman 

We're looking into the past! An ancient black hole.

Welcome to the world of astrophysics.

57 million years is kind of nothing on universal scale

you twits will believe anything fed to you.... its hilarious to watch

@@romesho please enlighten us, you're either a religious freak or a normal tin foil one

Steve Wayne I thought his theory with hawking radiation is already acknowledged by physicists?

ツMax there is a difference between being acknowledged and being proven right

@@peepomusictm536 This picture does not prove hawking radiation though

Hawking is crap

Imagine hawking dying and going to a higher dimension, and then communicating with us from the future by way of this black hole?...

That movie became my crush. I have watched it 4 times till now still not bored

Because Kip Thorne a nobel laureate in physics was consultant in that movie...watch their interview...

The computer program that simulates how light behaves around a black hole and how we would see it was created for the movie.

They nailed it. What a difficult task, but it did in fact hold up. They almost got it exactly right.

@Pierre LeDouche weren't they able to produce some research papers based on the simulations that they ran to create the black hole?

You misspelled Reptilian Overlords

@@conorkennway3053 you missed school

@@conorkennway3053 they got a plan

@@conorkennway3053 33 Freemasons and bohemian Grove.

@@michaelfleming1223 tahiti?

@Science Revolution why don't you ask him then

So I guess that "global" solution was why at any given point it was only 60% functional.

I read your comment just as he said that! Very well said indeed!

Your black circle isn’t even completely black...

One should understand a concept atleast to some extent to raise questions (doubt), does not understanding a concept tantamount to stupidity.There may be many reasons for not understanding, one may not be interested, the person speaking may not have said enough for the mass to understand it.

But it was combined effort of all those thousands of people, so that resume should consist of 99,999% list of names.

Tuguldur Ankhbayar Do you have any references? I have them in this hard drive

Seems like his resume's character ref section would be enormous 😂

wow you'll believe anything. i know a Nigerian prince who needs to lower his taxable income, if you send him transfer fees he will send you back a million dollars, whats your email address?

@@tuguldurankhbayar768 oh! You must be new here, let me tell you about this guy named et. al.

Yes, it really really does

Yeah me too

True

True,but it also makes me feel fear and anxious at some point LOL

@@rks4532 you live in the most habitable planets of all so you keep calm ✌️

LOL

Exactly like elon's son

This message chain was performed in the span of 456 million years

@@thecarwasherofshangri-la 228

XD

wow this communication took only 171 million years.

😂 😂 😂

😀

:)

Justsaying something this proves you’re a boring person to be around

the final boss

Ted is an architect. 😂

It is indeed amazing. May I suugest the reason we exist is to know the creator of the creation!

@Scott Scotty good question. The argument you would want to look at is the watchmaker analogy/argument. It states that which has a specific design implies an intelligent designer.

@Scott Scotty ahhh! A fellow philosopher. We know a couple things to be true however. Nothing cannot create something. The teleological argument only suggests there is a creator behind the creation. It does not define the creator as perfect in any sense. However, one can believe in an all powerful, all knowing, and all loving deity without it being perfect. No one was at the creation of the universe, so we will only know at the end of our earthly lives if we lived for a purpose or not. Best of luck to you friend!

@Scott Scotty ohh yeah of course lol I have my beliefs but I’ll never push them into someone lol

@@nal909 no. You may not. Keep your fairytale to yourself.

U mean front page like in the newspapers they r holding in the pic at the end..??

Facts 💀

yes !

isnt it not even a photo? it was from radio waves right, you wouldn’t actually see that

@@MnemonicHeadTrip Same as x-ray photos, we don't see it as humans, that's why we build machines that do. We see less than 1% of all the light around us. It is a photo, the way it was rendered is just different than a "regular" photo. It's compiled from hundreds of terabytes of data

You'd have to actually go more than 57 million years back in time to see dinosaurs (in fact, more than 65 million), when an asteroid is considered to have made impact with Earth's surface, ending almost all forms of life.

57 million light years. Light year is the distance light can travel in a year.

it tells me that he was wrong

@@Stoffemollan how so?

@@Stoffemollan Ahhh, a random RU-vid watcher who negates the theory and knowledge of Einstein. I wonder what your theories and discoveries are. Can you publish your book related to the "Theory of Relativty" or any other books?

@@markpetersenycong8723 I´m more into the electric / plasma universe. Just because "Mr. Onestone" got some things right doesn´t mean he got everything right.

@@Stoffemollan but Einstein got THIS right, so what's your point, Mr. Smart Guy?

Yes true🤣

Interstellar reference

Came to find someone comment this. im am not surprised

Tesseract

Lol yeah right.. if we all do that then who will make weapons? patrol borders? fight wars with hidden agendas? capitalize on resources? Make America great again? blow up churches and mosques? kill blue wales? you keep your wishy washy mysteries to your self Mr David..

not much, not without a plan or well-defined goals, a picture of a black hole is fine, but the definitions we are using are childish at best.

@Austin DowningI wasn't only talking about trump.

Austin Downing from oneness perspective it is kind of evil..

Austin Downing ok

he did not predict a black hole, in fact he was against it. But hey believe and parrot whatever you like

@@gammaraygem any proof tho?

to be more precise: einstein theory was used to predict black holes and support big bang, but initially Einstein rejected both ideas. he got "overruled" by his peers later in life. Do some research and you´ll find it. there is a recent lecture by Arkani Hamed,very respected lecturer at the top venues of spacetime ideology... lets see if i can find it...ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qTx98PUW6lE.html he mentions it in this lecture i believe, (great teacher, he makes all that difficult stuff understandable) he also hints that something is very wrong in current cosmology. he also explains how they now can make a black hole in the lab.

What's even Crazier is that some people believe it...it only exists in the mind and always will. Check out "The "Thunderbolts Project on RU-vid, I think you'll change your mind about this Story.

While Einstein was pretty smart, he didn't personally predict EVERYTHING that his theory predicts. He did predict things like bending of light, gravitational time dilation, and correctly explained an anomaly in the orbit of Mercury. Depending on how specific you want to be with the term "black hole" it may have even been predicted BEFORE Einstein.

its not an "image" though

LOL

@@brainxd It IS an image by definition.

@If you laugh you sub! All images are data being rendered. You're just comparing the means of rendering the data. This is the exact same concept as a camera taking a picture of your face and rendering it for display.

It's not real!

@American Muscle Don't demean the work of great scientists by comparing them to your fairytale god

@@dobhd8320 Its not fairytale, the Bible is a fairytale but not God. God is in everything in this universe, he is inside us as well. But we are so closen minded to the physic and what we see around us, that we forget that we have a spiritual view as well. Now we have to see in order to believe, but in the future we will believe in order to see and that will be the apex of the knowledge of the human race.

Religion is holding us back

Couldn’t agree more with you. I don’t know which movie was but one of the characters said that we must stop thinking as individuals and start thinking as species and that’s so damn true. We need to stop putting barriers between us because at the end of the day we’re all humans.

I'm still waiting for my giant robots to punch giant aliens in the face

yeah I chuckled

I didn’t get it lol

@@sharismad vancouver is a major city in western Canada, located in the Lower Mainland region of British Columbia.

@@Owoowoowo47 I think it's where TED shows are held

@@mohammadazad8350 idk i just googled vancouver lol i did not even know if it was a city

go ahead and study cosmology :) Then welcome to TEDs talks with your presentation

@@TpoJioJio47 sure bro thanks

You can also just lie and people will believe anyway

@WHY YOU ARE AN IDIOT so the fact that the image can be repurposed as cat's eyes means it is fake? I hope your name is purposefully ironic

Vikas Sidhu tedtalks are independently organized, you could totally put one on with enough work

Samuel Christian interstellar comment

Samwael Armoush 👍 exactly

Daaang😭 just watched that last week, that movie kills me everytime but it’s probably my favorite.

Interstellar!!!

Great movie

Absolutely. Terrible interviewer. Maybe he didn't like feeling less smart than Shep so he had to get an edge somehow? Very odd

I hated it! He was just going through his talking points instead of trying to have a real discussion with him. Kills the beauty of dialog among minds. But I guess he had to focus the conversation too and compress it within an allotted time. But it did feel like he wasn't actively listening and appreciating this beautiful scientist's mind.

Yeah you can tell he doesn't understand what it actually is.

Yeah, it was annoying, but at least he waited for very slight pauses. Doeleman is a class act, and brilliant presenter to play off it so well.

Nah, the interviewer asked excellent questions and was very engaging. Also the scientist/astrophysicist was great imo!

I, personally, can't wait for the day we can take pictures of black holes with an iPhone.

varun009 that’s kinda stupid, no offense.

I believe they are already working on a shorter wavelength image which should be higher resolution.

@@simonjohnson6763 Lighten up, buddy.

maybe

These open calls to fascism are getting ridiculous.

I was thinking you could be leader of the NWO

@jonny j Wow, you must be an expert in macro economics! Not in all cases competition is better, and the first photo of a black hole is a great example of that. Competition also brought us more climate change, damage to the environment and other things. But yeah, "competition is the best"...

@@lukasmihara You can still work together and ruin the world's environment. The oil industry, for example. Look at Tesla, they are working against the media, the entire automotive industry, and the oil industry to modernize the world with new innovations in space technology, advance the human race to clean transportation, and pioneer man and woman from Earth to Mars. This is competition at its best. If Elon Musk is successful in the Mars mission, he will truly be remembered as one of the most important people in the history of the world and the human race. We need more companies that are willing to push the envelop and make the world a better place.

you are right. so, as we clearly don't care about black holes, what about petting that good'ol mother earth? huh? we are intellignt enouh to seek for useless things but, real problems just flow over us like water on an umbrella?? you scientists are fools. get real and prioritize the right things. enough is enough now. Elon if you read this...

or non satanist. If it's not an obvious 666 to you then you can't be helped

Those people came from black hole and they dont like it

I'm a flat universer

@@publicopinion3596 I just believe that if you zoom out enough, the whole universe is a flat disc operating on simplistic geometric patterns, somehow spinning itself on it's own energy But I cant figure out why kids love the taste of cinnamon toast crunch. Time to get a job at the factory and dedicate 40 years of my life cracking that one. Wish me lots of luck!

@@TheMasterTelevision lmao good luck

He ded

He was a theoretical physicist. Technically he saw it without any telescope. The brain was his telescope.

He is...! Right from the BlackHole he currently resides in..

Sriram R his birthday was on the same day as me

@@ismitagharat7511 wow that's awesome, I'll try to wish you on Jan8th lol

They do not exist. learn here. ru-vid.com/show-UCvHqXK_Hz79tjqRosK4tWYA

Ian Fenn with that logic you dont exist either

@@OceanTopInc black holes most definitely exist. if they did not exist, how are we able to learn about them? or even take a photo of one?

me too sometimes i like to stick my finger inside of them or sometimes i just eat them like groceries

Cool very excited

Yeah we really got sucked in.

Ha!

It’s such a bad pun, that it works😂

Yea, I couldn't escape his grasp and this is not a light hearted topic either.

Nah, they just tend to *fall* into focus.

Try typing

@@michaelfleming1223 try not being that guy

@@Marvinthecoinhunter The one scares ppl and my teir 2 is into rape, teir 3 fantasized about murder so I keep him at bay

Same

Should have been April the 1st....... its total nonsense

barry weber thank you!

Dylan Rogers you never came back

@Dylan Rogers traitor

@Dylan Rogers you have done a sin that is the biggest sin of all sins. perish

Hehehe. I talk like you.

They're not nasa , Nasa is bankrupt & under budget

Aliens looking us: Let's study this species of ape evolving conscious beings and see how fast they are growing by measuring their progress on their latest major technological advance compared to their time of existence since the beginning of their most earliest ancestor. Us spotting first black hole: *makes memes* 👽: 🤨

true 😂

Such is the internet...

That wasn't NASA

7:31

Of course, you need to be smart to have a sense of humor.

Yeah but the part that gets sucked in probably wouldn't be able to get pulled back out because it would require a COLOSSAL amount of force to pull it out since the amount a black hole can suck in is literally so strong that light can't even escape. Also the camera along with part of the rope will get spaghetti-fied so it most likely won't work anymore. Cool idea though, if only it was possible.

Lmao if we tried to do that we'd probably get sucked in too with how strong black holes are

@@vi0let831 there wouldn’t be anything to pull out. A black holes gravity is so strong that it pulls you apart at the atomic level, basically turning you into spaghetti... hangs the reason nothing can come back after the event horizon. To bad. I’d love to know what’s inside those mysteries.

@@vi0let831 We just have to use a really long rope, and tie it to something heavy (Also I know this wouldn’t work, I was just making a joke lol)

This is genius.

You won't believe how powerful that telescope is, even the smallest flinch or change in space, it would instantly home in on it

Yeah almost seems photoshopped

@@captainchaos6812 it's edited that's for sure but that doesn't mean it's fake...

It’s a telescope not an iPhone camera

It’s a black hole not a tree.yes a tree in a forest is hard to see but that doesn’t mean we can’t see a black hole because there is no black hole forest.its the only black hole we can see. U should put an ant in front of u while taking picture then be like “ bro an ant blocks my whole view”

It is, one if the best movies to have been directed. Predicts and tells exactly how things are.

@@matt_timoo Well, it does get very speculative at the end but you are generally right.

I thought so too! Fell in love with that movie

Somewhere I have read How Nolan picted that Black hole in Interstellar it was a kind of perfect what most of the theoretical physicists think until now. Even scientists from Nasa have stated that black was so good to see.

The blackhole scene though isn't realistic said Chris Hadfield one of our astronomers, accurate movies are space odyssey and apollo 13

Says every black hole documentaries ever lol

We are 100% sure how black holes work, but we are still 99% unsure how light works... Something doesnt smell right.

@@justifiably_stupid4998 wait what.... how did you come to that conclusion? He did say they have no idea what happens in a black hole and you take that as we are 100% sure how black holes work.... I think your listening skills doesn't work right :)

Brian Light and sound work on the same frequency. A powerful enough laser aimed at the event horizon could bounce off and even recharge the battery that shot the laser.

Olund I think it has a polarizing effect and would be like looking in an inverted mirror or universe creating multiple scenarios and multiverses.

Science has this incredibly successful track record because it begins by ignoring the biases (and prejudices) of everyone, it just deals with what can be observed and proved (or disproved) by evidence. A lot of non-critical thinking (that leads to the "races," religions and "differences" that you allude to) are immediately dispensed with so actual progress can be made (science is a mere subset of critical thinking). But as soon as each individual devotes themselves to critical thinking, they also can overcome (or at least ignore) their own biases and prejudices to more quickly achieve those benefits that you mention.

@Joe Chang You didn't address your query to anyone by name, so forgive me if I wasn't the intended recipient, but I'll try to answer your very valid questions and assertions regardless. "How (do) you get from Einstein's equation to (a) black hole?...All description and assumption, no explanation and mechanism, no cause and effect, this is not science but religion." Nope, it's not religion, which is based on faith (belief without evidence). Some people think that a scientific theory is a scientist's "best guess" or "educated guess" or "speculation." This is because the word "theory" has been absorbed into colloquial language and is commonly used as the layman's "best guess" or "speculation." Some people were taught by inferior or confused science teachers that there is some supposed hierarchy in science, such that a fact/observation somehow graduates to a hypothesis, the hypothesis graduates to a theory, then the theory graduates to a law. THIS IS INCORRECT and no reputable scientist has ever even suggested this. A scientific theory is the HIGHEST echelon that information can ever attain. A scientific theory CONTAINS and INCLUDES all known facts, successful/non-falsified hypotheses and known/proven laws. The theory may still be incomplete, with still-missing pieces, but that doesn't mean that even in its incomplete form it still can't be provisionally accepted as valid and incredibly useful, just as Einstein's theories and the Theory of Natural Selection have been for decades, incomplete, but still incredibly useful. All that Einstein (or any other astrophysicist/cosmologist that have no direct access to the humongous celestial phenomena that they are observing) can do is work with the data that they currently have and use it and mathematics and reproducible physical/earthly demonstrations to form hyphotheses and then invite the scientific community to subject the hyphotheses to withering cross-examination. In other words, the theorist WANTS his rivals to show him/her where he/she might be wrong! If a rival colleague presents future evidence that invalidates any part of the hypothesis, the hypothesis either has to be modified to agree with the new data, or in some instances, the hypothesis is outright discarded. Why would a scientist want to be proven wrong? So that they don't remain misguided/deluded as to what the facts/reality are, they won't have to waste anymore time going down an unsuccessful rabbit hole. They can get on to more successful and useful hypotheses that might benefit mankind. After enough separate hypotheses have withstood these rival cross-examinations, they can be combined with all known facts, observations, laws and mathematics to form a theory, i.e. a model to describe some aspect of nature/the universe that is so accurate, so successful, so helpful, so useful for humanity and perhaps most importantly, so PREDICTIVE of what future phenomena (that have yet to be discovered) SHOULD look like if the tenets of the theory continue to hold. An excellent example of this was the recent picture of the black hole found at the center of a galaxy. Even before the picture was revealed, thousands of scientists had used the best/latest theoretical models of what the picture SHOULD look like IF the theory that the scientists were currently accepting was correct...and what did we see?...Pretty much EXACTLY what was predicted by theory would be seen! Now, even though this was impressive support for the theory, it DOES NOT MEAN that the current theory will never be changed or disproven or discarded. It merely means that for the time being, the current theory is incredibly accurate, incredibly useful, incredibly predictive and that it has withstood all assaults from rival theorists. The theory lives another day, only to be assaulted on a daily basis by new observations and rival theories. "Without understanding the precise mechanism of a theory, how can you accept it as true?" The wording here is important. Those who accept the findings of science don't necessarily say that ANY fact or hypothesis or theory is "TRUE," rather they accept the fact or hypothesis or theory as "the best that we can do with our current experiments, measurements, knowledge and abilities." They realize that there will always be new discoveries that supplement the current body of scientific knowledge, but they don't have to wait until the science is "complete." 1) Because science will never be complete, it's always being added to 2) Even with incomplete science, much good can still come from it. Case in point, just because Natural Selection is an incomplete theory of evolution doesn't mean it has been useless. There are many gaps in the theory that are unexplained and various new phenomena such as epigenetics, horizontal gene transfer and symbiogenesis may help fill those gaps or shift evolutionary theory away from Natural Selection (NS). But in the meantime, NS has resulted in an explosion of successful medical and agricultural successes unlike anything that preceded it. And those adherents of NS should be THRILLED if NS is every torn down! Why? Because any theory that supplants NS will be EVEN MORE SUCCESSFUL, MORE USEFUL, MORE PREDICTIVE than NS, and THAT is saying a LOT!. My original post spoke of critical thinking and how many people don't use it nearly often enough. And it has nothing to do with intelligence. Using Einstein as an example: his brilliant theories have repeatedly stood the test of time and been incredibly helpful in science. But even Einstein was as susceptible as you or I to bouts of non-critical thinking: He inserted the "Cosmological Constant" into his field equations basically so that, no matter what future astronomical observations were made, the constant would ensure that the universe appeared to be steady-state or static, i.e. that it doesn't expand or contract. In other words, Einstein inserted the constant because HE DIDN'T WANT the universe to expand or contract. It had NOTHING to do with fact or reality, it was just his human BIAS, his wishful thinking. And later, he was adult enough to describe it as his "biggest blunder." He knew that he could have set science back by decades by invoking his own desires into his theories rather than simply accepting the actual science. "Are you a rational thinker?" I struggle on a daily basis to try to be. But I recognize that I also have biases (just like every other human that has ever lived) and I have to discount them over and over on a daily basis to get actual rational thinking done. But my work will never be done, my brain is hard-wired with these biases to fool me in so many ways, just as every other humans is, so I (and everyone else) should be forever vigilant. A final question to you: If you aren't impressed by the success rate of the scientific method, could you suggest another mode of inquiry that shows any success at all? Peace.

@xhemexx After his first post, I was willing to give Joe Chang the benefit of the doubt and attempt to address his concerns honestly (I figured that the peanut gallery might be interested as well). But after reading his last few postings, I'm convinced of any one of the following (in decreasing order of likelihood): 1) Joe's a troll 2) he runs his responses through the Deepak Chopra random word generator to end up with "deepities," 3) English isn't his first language; and the very least likely: 4) He has actually proven the thousands of astrophysicsts/cosmologists wrong with his brilliance and needs to book his flight to Stockholm...but I'm not giving him any more of my time...

People like you make me think it's probably fake to spread communism.

Its funny as i was worried that my comment sound communist, thanks for confirming but to be honest im happy for the rich to stay rich and the poor to be a little richer if that helps :)

Space is beautiful

@@dontstalkme5332 but also terrifying

@@ifeelnothing3844 I think we are in a simulation

@@dontstalkme5332 I am sorry but I don't agree with you. That's completely impossible.

@@ifeelnothing3844 yeah, I understand. It's just my opinion. Like for me, the universe is a lil too real to be real you know. Like the fact that we can see stars light years away is kinda scary cus I can't imagine how big that star would be! It's scary af

Hawking not seeing this is the most depressing part. Einstein was dead long ago. The depressing part is if Hawking had lived JUST one year more he would have seen this real picture of this cosmic monster which he had been studying for his whole life.

@@vedantsridhar8378 plot twist: this picture was already taken before hawking passed

@@qxpn9220 Yeah I hope Hawking KNEW that the picture was already taken and was under processing. Hawking was still alive when the photo was captured but he passed away during its analyzing and processing. So he didn't get to see the processed photo.

@@qxpn9220 plot twist: mr.Hawking had witnessed the secret of the universe from the quantum world on which his consciousness transcended

If they would had been alive by the time, we'd have had 100 times more data about it by now!

Rang Klos Science makes progress in spite of scientists who are normal human beings prone to bias, prejudice, and confirmation bias. Ad hominem attacks are still common in peer reviews and press releases. One example is how the scientists who claim to be seeing this distant black hole mock scientist who interpret the data in an Electric Universe plasma dynamic model.

@@DeathValleyDazed hmm , how do you explain gravity in this model? In my knowledge there is no experiments that shows connection between gravity and electromagnetism. Can you show some experiments? Electric universe is a fucking joke. It does not explain anything properly. There is no clarity in things.

We are, we should throw the media in that blackhole because they're the ones dividing us, not racism, no1 would know racism if we weren't being told it exists. Just like when we were babies, we learned to speak words from others, now we're learning these words through others, and the media in controlling our minds.

I like also the 3 pixels very much thank you

He is setting up a viewer on how to focus and perceive the stage and image to give it depth via line of sight and geometry.

next up: feminism and church constructions!

Mega bullshit, so proud!

@Ninja Wizard you do realize that black holes and dark matter/energy violates basic fundamental laws of physics? You cheer up a conspiracy theory in science and because it's been glorified for about a century now, you do not question it's validity, also you do not accept any form of criticism about it? Furthermore, do you know that the concept that those several observatories acting as telescope the size of earth is actually exaggerated and they do have missing information they invoked with statistical predictions to fill in this missing data to produce any form of accuracy from the very little photons they might be getting from this particular point in space? Until this could be confirmed I do not wanna be part of or be proud of speculation that might end up to be utterly false.

@Ninja Wizard In this model they use, the event horizon of the black hole has velocity greater than the speed of light and at the same time 0 velocity as it emits radiation, which is in full contradiction of any scientific observations possible, and if you have gone deeper in this you should know that, but you obviously do not. Also, by definition and known observation matter cannot be compressed beyond certain levels simply because of the structure it forms and the density, which I see you somehow dismiss in favor of mysticism and concepts beyond your reach that cannot be strictly defined which is the sole goal of science - to have exact definitions of processes and motions. So you dare talking and compare my argument as such made by the church, please gimme a break.

@@NikolayNikoloff Except this is not a model, this is legit photons being captured by our array. This picture is the visual evidence.

YES ME TOO