Inside the New VFC Avalon VR16 Gearbox | Airsoftology Review 

but it was a paid advertisement XD

Oh I know, haha. Just wish it wasn't so obvious. Like to see some honest reviews. Good and bad. Nothing is perfect.

Rudd the KWA Makarov was litterally called the worst pistol by him XP

Answer is simple, he just don't review a sh*t xD

I was really frustrated too because it was very obvious especially around the AOE part when he said that it was really good and it was obviously crappy AOE and he said the shimming is good but it is once again crap because they use self shimming gears to my knowledge. I think he needs to be more honest and less biased because this video met my very low expectations.

Here on VFC's Facebook page it mentioned that only the Avalon series will have the mosfet: facebook.com/VegaForceCompany/photos/a.125395630733.141537.125385545733/10154955370350734/ Where did VFC announce anything about the Avalon series being included with an electronic trigger? :o From this video the mosfet appears to only be there to protect the mechanical trigger contacts. It doesn't seem to be an electronic/computerize customizable trigger at all.

The ar latch does stop you from running it in reverse, but it's true purpose is to prevent the main spring from driving the geartrain in reverse if the trigger is let go early. Geartrain running in reverse can break off the tappet fin from the nub pushing it forward. If electrically driven, it can and probably will break your pickup tooth off

Ah, all right, thank you. I guess that would happen a lot in full auto.

You would strip your piston and gears because instead of finishing the cycle and going forward you would finish the cycle and get stuck and then keep spinning and strip your stuff (this would also require you to wire your motor up backward using everything including the motor to spin backward). The reason the ARL is there is to prevent backspin which would strip your piston because if you noticed in the video a bit of the piston was sticking out so that would get slowly grinder away (you gun also would not cycle). I've never done any of this to my gun I'm only going off what I think would happen based off my experience with gearboxes. Also I think I saw a write up on this topic somewhere. Hope this explains it.

see my review, the piston and tappet are crap!

I highly recommend TheAirsoftTech! :)

Stefan Bittner I think VFC mentioned on their Facebook page that these new gearboxes will work on their older models. They also mentioned that the gearbox might be for sale separately. I'll send a link in a bit.

Here's the link concerning my pevious comment: facebook.com/VegaForceCompany/photos/a.125395630733.141537.125385545733/10154955370350734

Neil Schluter That would be great to also see a breakdown on the G&G G2 and any other new gearbox releases in the future! By the way, has the G2 system even been released yet?

they are standard 18:1

Sam G found out that the full length has a slower RPS

The Real Effing Deal didnt work

I assume u have already recieved the gun so would u reccomend it to a beginner. Hope youtube notifications work.

externals are ok, mostly pretty standard M4 stuff, with a few non-essential extras- ambi selector, finger rest, lightning blade trigger (which i hate), functioning bolt catch. The internals leave a bit to be desired..be prepared to replace and upgrade. see my review above.

I agree, nothing especially good, but a lot especially bad...see my first hand review above.

r/airsoftmarket is good. There's also Airsoft Society.

john nara I’m not entirely sure but it could be that you are using a top high of a voltage. My gun uses a 11.1volt Lipo battery which is the maximum voltage that you can get. My gun costs about 480 euros which makes it able to handle that voltage. But a cheaper gun of mine shoots twice every time I pull the trigger when there is a 11.1v battery in there. I would just look up your gun if I were you but I’d say that you should get a 9.6v battery or maybe even lower. (9.6 is still quite high tho). When you have a too high voltage your wires can get really hot because they are not meant for such high voltages but mine can get a little warm too but not really hot.

Both are good but I'm leaning towards avalin

the one i got is barely an M100- pretty flimsy actually.

you need to go beyond just a motor. You need HS gears, light piston, weaker spring (m85/90 - M100), possibly shorter barrel, and seal up those air leaks!! you need to think in terms of this as a whole system. 1 part upgraded can bring the whole system down if you dont consider all of the component in the system as a whole.

you'll need a high torque motor too. keep in mind- higher spring, higher torque motor - less ROF.

BIG sic its the new vfc. Its on par with the krytech

16 tooth

He'll never anwser... If I can help a little: if you want to run a 11.1V battery, something you should at least do is fix the angle of engagement (AoE). Other good things to do (but not limited to) are : re-shim bevel to pinion, radius the gearbox shell, re-grease, install a MOSFET or computerized trigger, e.g. Since running a 11.1V will get you a faster cycle rate, you might ran into the problem of overspin and/or per-engagement. To remedy this problem, one of the things you can do is run a stiffer spring. If you need to stay below a certain FPS, you can short-stroke the gears. So long story short, you can run a 11.1V on a stock setup but the faster RPM may cause a part like the piston to give out faster. That can be said for any setup but a properly tuned one will last longer while running a 11.1V battery. If you're not comfortable enough to make the above mentioned upgrades/tune-ups, you can have a tech do so. If you're not willing to do that either, sticking with a 7.4V LiPo might be a better idea. I hope I was of some help. Keep in mind this isn't a comprehensive guide on the tune-ups that are recommended for running a 11.1V battery. Places like Airsoft Society can be a lot of help.

Thanks! What I'm understanding is that most of the time a stock gun is going to want at least a optimization before using a 11.1?

Julian Cuevas uses an autoshim spring on the spur gear. Other than that not that many shims

Vadim the cqb model uses plastic gears instead of metal

The first comment is completely incorrect, no VFC guns (even older models) have plastic gears. Internally identical. FPS is only different because of barrel length. This should be the same internals for all of the Avalon series.

Matronelio75 thats the asian market version ie the best one you can get

Yup, same. It's just the Asian spec. And I agree, has best internals. Newest updates, and a Maple Leaf barrel and bucking from the factory

claude kim whooooooosh

@@ethanstrunk2791 what???? Do you know what wooosh means?

Khoa Tran I have a VFC 416 and use Elite Force 140rd midcaps. If you wanna spend some money, PTS EPMs will fit great.

Brandon Wilson thanks man

Evike BAMF are always amazing

justin souza i think its probably a lemon gear or your motor height was set too low

@@claudekim7876 Its not a lemon, its standar VFC behaviour.

@@fubene5495 idk why people keep thinking that i have yet to see this happen to any vfc avalons. and im running a dsg on mine and it seems to be fine >

Tyler Mohning Perhaps you have an older version?

I guess so. I have only had it for like a month though.

Tyler Mohning is it the Avalon or standard ar16? Also maybe the store where you bought it only had this version in stock and will get the newest version eventually.

It is the Avalon cqb. I live in Germany and bought it from sniper-as.de. I have had nothing but problems with the internals so far. Tappet plate broke within the first 3 mags. The tamiya connecter just fell off. The motor died. The hop up unit broke. the trigger didn`t fit correctly and would just lock up completely like the safety was on and it wasn`t etc etc etc. Really dissapointing. It is my first aeg too. On the plus side I learned how to repair everyting lol.

NOIR. Milsim how would a nozzle break because of the qc spring?????

Just with the position of the gearbox with spring changes. When forcing a spring in I could see you putting stress on the nozzle.

He didn't use a good technique in the video. I'd have the gearbox lie on it's side on a table and simply hold it in place with my right hand while handling the spring and spring guide with my left hand.

No

+Eric Torres Why?

+Jon Brinkley its okay

Saint BEAST eh only if the hop up doesn't work or there is no compression.

I just mean most stock AEG's are not properly shimed cheap parts and the angle of Engagement is not corrected properly.. not all of them and this one seems a little better than most and krytac does a good job as well

Elias Totoli 16:1

claude kim are you super sure it’s those kind of gears?

Elias Totoli idk thats what others say.. why does it matter tho? It only changes the rps.

Ashton Veemer high torque 30k rpm

Its actually a very good motor! Very strong neo-magnets

totiksilkway yes and no

In terms of dimensions, the gearbox is a standard V2 gearbox that should be interchangeable with other VFC receivers + other brands. In terms of the internals, the Avalon internals looks to be great. We'll have to see how well some parts like the MOSFET will hold up.

That's basically what I wanted to know, if one can just get Avalon gearbox and put it in 416 so u have great parts in one package

@totiksilkway: Yup, VFC mentioned on their Facebook page that these new Avalon gearboxes will work on their older model's receivers. They also mentioned that the gearbox might be for sale separately. Here's a link to the source: facebook.com/VegaForceCompany/photos/a.125395630733.141537.125385545733/10154955370350734

Thanks 👍🏻

there is a clutch inside them.. so no. wouldnt recommend winding excessively, but if you wind it just a couple times more than you need too, youll be fine.

there is a clutch inside them.. so no. wouldnt recommend winding excessively, but if you wind it just a couple times more than you need too, youll be fine.

Mark Melton Why do you want the Europen version? You can surf the web for retailers that ship to America, but I can assure you it won't be cheap.

Mark Melton might as well just change the trigger and you got an European version lol

Ok thanks do you just recommend getting the American version

Haha you are absolutely right

Don't waste money for an European version if you can have basically the same thing in the US. Also you may need the orange tip depending in which state you live so one more reason to go with the American version.

I have the model year before the avalon and it handles a 11.1 very well without a mosfet. The avalon will work great with it.