Installing a muzzle device... Do it yourself! 

Hey there! Thanks so much for taking the time and effort to get back to me. I ended up purchasing an upper vise, which made the process super easy and simple, worth the investment for me I think. Cool process though for sure, thanks again! :)

That's exactly how you don't use a crush washer. You don't back it off and re tighten. That works on your barrel nut but not a crush washer. Why do you think they tell you they are a one and done deal? You can easily get 360 degree rotation on the nut to tighten and time it correctly. Maybe not if you're using a towel to hold in the vise though.

I'm not sure on the pressure really. The concern about putting too much is there, but it's unlikely that too much can be applied in this fashion. However, we've been using a better method since this video where we cut a section of 2x4 in half and then drill a whole slightly smaller than the barrel diameter down the middle. This applies more even pressure to the barrel and the wood takes the heat, not the barrel.

@MrAzcabowabo The two types are actually just a "flash hider" and a "muzzle brake". This device is more of a brake. It's supposed to be very comparable to the BattleComp which says it throws about as much flash as the A2 birdcage. If you want as much flash as possible go with a big competition style brake or take the whole thing off.

+Highjak86 Thanks for the demo guys. I'm getting rid of my birdcages and going with something a little more "flashy"... no pun intended. I have no objections to the towel, despite my fellow gunners below questioning it. It works.

Good work. 2 scrap pieces of wood or a small plastic cutting board cut in half on both sides of the barrel when tightening on a vice will keep it from getting marred.

I used heater hose on mine last time. Just something to consider. Nice muzzle device...now where to see it in action!

All these guys going off about the towel , you are probably fine.. that being said if you have any kind of shop drill a hole through a block slightly smaller than your barrel and cut the block in half down the middle of the hole. Not fancy but it is def spreads out the force over the surface of the barrel instead of crushing it potentially.

Another thing you could do if you have access to a Router Table would be to slice up your blocks of wood (Oak would be real nice if you have it laying around) and then use an appropriately sized half round bit in the router table and route half circles in the two pieces. Just another idea.

Man you really don't need to torque down so much on a crush washer, Its truly not even a washer snug it and index it your done, all that tightening backing off is not necessary, if your using a crush washer

2 blocks of wood with a v notch cut and set in the vise are the best to use!

This process is mainly just to line up the device. There are proper torque specs and some muzzle devices will not line up correctly until the washer is pre-crushed. This process just pre-crushes the washer so the correct torque is on the muzzle device when it's lined up properly.

@pistondriven556 Comps are great for keeping the muzzle rise to a minimum. We were very impressed with the Dynacomp. I just installed a BattleComp 2.0 last week. We'll be putting out a video comparing the two and doing a little bit of testing on both sometime soon.

This unit was eventually torqued with a crows foot.

thanks for the vid. was kind of confused when I hand tightened it pretty hard and it still had just under 180 degrees to go lol. First time doing it and wasn't sure if it was supposed to be a lot closer to indexed when tightened that much.You and I both need to get one of those receiver clamps for a vice though lol

Brakes aren't louder they just direct the sound closer to the shooter.

I agree, you should buy me one. :) We've had good luck with this one though. Shoots .5 MOA at 100 yards with good ammo.

I just used a vise grip and a impact wrench.

Doesn’t backing it off make the crush washer useless?

you do not tighten and back it off with a crush washer....thats why they are a one and replace

That depends on the muzzle device you are installing. Most come with instructions if they require timing (aka: lining up). Others don't require timing and the instructions should say this.

Ive never done the tightening and backing off and never had a problem.

Thanks Gents!

Great vid. Very helpful for my ruger pc carbine muzzle break install.

@Highjak86 Awesome, can't wait.

almost wasted $50 going to the gunsmith for this. thanks for the post guys!

Never go over 20' pounds or you will effect accuracy. The more torque applied, the more the barrel bore will be compressed..

Thanks for making the video. Do you risk any damage to the barrel clamping it in the vice?

@kyledanger45 Should have all the stuff in tomorrow. We're taking half the day to go to the range and get a final video. Woot!

If 20 pounds feet is required then bear in mind that that isn't that tight really. As an example the 'average' lug nut on a car is normally tightened to around 80 to 90 lb.ft. That'll give yo an idea of how tight you should 'torque' it up to,..not that much really!

@kyledanger45 Alright, I take that back... maybe not a FINAL video, but you'll get to see the optic and see it shoot.

I like the sticker on the tool box #okinawa

I was hoping I could get a little help brother - I recently got a Tikka T3X UPR , and then an AR-STONER Precision Muzzle Brake (it was only $20, figured it was worth a try...) - it's my first muzzle device. I thought I could remove them and install them just whenever I wanted, screwing it on and off etc. Obviously not. I guess I will be "installing" it semi-permanently - one of my questions is, how are you determining the torque you want/need to use, and then how are you measuring it? It looks like you're using a standard wrench and I can probably replicate the process, just not sure when I know I'm good enough or not good enough or waaaaaay too much etc. Thanks very much, it was helpful to watch definitely.

You know for like 25 bucks you can get a really nifty tool that allows you to do this correctly. Instead of clipping your gun in a vice with a towel.

NJ requires you to run a brake instead of the A2? A brake is louder. Maybe NJ has a ban on flash hiders. I'd look into it before you listen to other people. To the best of my knowledge the only reason you need to permanently attach a muzzle device is if your barrel is under 16". If not it's technically a NFA item.

Very nice upgrade ...

whats up with that rifle man!! i wanna see the finshed product

How not to install a muzzle device

You really need a set of soft Jaws for your Vise.

read some comments. Glad you seem to have improved the process. that was one of the most cringe videos I have seen on the topic lol

that "lube " on the threads will be carbonized by the intense heat of the barrel. Pretty sure i threads should be clean and dry,

I had a gunsmith attach one of these on my rifle about two weeks ago, but the thing is ever so slightly misaligned. Seems it needs just one little twist to be perfect. Should I take it back and ask them to do it for me?

Crush washers are pointless....

what about installing the pin that came with it?

This is what I like to hear. :)

What the hell is a foot pound??????? I hear people saying it all the time "yeah you really don't wanna apply more than 15 foot pounds of torque " WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? EXPLAIN IT PLEASE!

No matter what .. do a close up of your washer position since u are trying to demonstrate to an audience. VR mike. Master Armor

I bet their spec is dry torque, not wet; big difference. CAREFUL...

What happen if you use two crush washer??

this helped! thank you

Cool information what type brake is that ?

A towel? Really?

Can you do it without the vice grip

Get a reaction rod, do it the safe way

Nice, video guys. In yalls opinion how much do thosse comps help out? I've been thinking about changing out my A2 flashhider for something that will reduce mussel climb but not make a dust storm when I'm prone.

Thanks for a great idea, what kind of grease did you used?

Question; Is there such a thing as a "Crush Washer" 26MM for a PAP M92 Barrel? I have a 4 piece Flash Hider and I'm not very pleased with the tightness ater installation and using the Detent Slot and it not being very tight. Im thinking the use of a Crush Washer would allow me to tighten it better to the AK Barrel, but I have not been able to find one. Can you advise?

is thaat a flash enhancer or supressor? Also will u get more flash out of a barrel with the flash hider removed or more flash out of an enhancer? I like me a good fireball and was gonna go shooting tonite, i was considering taking my yhm phantom flash hider off for tonite. Thx mang

I have the same Comp. I can't remember the name of it and there is no markings. Do you remember it? PS: I found it. It's a Spikes Tactical Comp.

*THUMBS UP*

Who makes that comp

Cool.

Dont put grease the materials are spec out for no lubricant

Interesting. I say take your money and put it into a UHaul so you can move. Haha. NFA is the National Firearms Act. That's where the rifle under 16" laws come from as well as 18" for shotguns as well as a bunch of other BS. Some states allow NFA items as long as they're registered and taxed, some do not.

How do you "line it up"?

What part of japan were you in?

Great video! How much pressure do you have to put on in that pipe vise? Do you have to worry about denting the barrel if you crank to high? Thanks! :)

Tight and then back off? Way to teach us how to ruin a crush washer

Do all barrels have the threads to install a muzzle/suppressor?

Great video dude, one trick you might like to start using is instead of using a towel to wrap around the firearm in the vice, simply take your shirt off and wrap it around, then you can do a quality job on your firearm while getting some hot chicks at the same time.

Nice Vid! I called a gunsmith to install my brake and he wanted 40 minimum for a 3 minute job..wtf? Went to Harbour freight, laid down 26 dollas to china for a vise and did it myself. 14 dollars+

Yes. No. Good. Bad. Do. Don't. Right . Wrong. You know what? I'm taking mine to a professional gunsmith, spend a little money and have it done RIGHT!!!

HEY NUMB NUTS, EVER HERD OF SOFT JAWS

I used a belt sander on my crush washer Just sanded it a Little at a time till it timed out perfect. Easy. I bought the shins and even bought silicon o rings. Couldn't wait I waisted money. Belt sander is too easy.

How hard did you tighen that down on your barrel? I tried this but it just kept spinning in the towel & I felt I applied to much pressure. Im using an old vice with long flat ends so Im afraid of crushing it.

thats bullshit my gunsmith did it for free as long as i bought him lunch haha. $40??!! wow

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Okay thanks!

What kink of muzzle is that?

Nearly 170,000 views on this...SMH....LOL

Thanks for showing the incorrect way how to do things!!!