Intel's History of Con-trived Benchmarks 

#benchmarkpressure

How to benchmark Intel CPUs for a fair result: 1. Equal GPU; 2. Equal memory; 3. Equal cooling; 4. Underclock competitors product by 50%;

I feel like part of the reason the tech press is calling out these type of business practices now more than ever was the result of your some of your videos and i am happy for it.

Man, it wasn't that long ago when this very channel used to be called conspiracy lunacy. And yet here we are.

"adoredTV just uploaded a video" stops gaming immediately

It's like Intel saw Nvidia's skewed benchmarks and said, "hold my beer"

13600%. Intel meme right here. Take it.

What's funniest in all this, 9900K, compared to 2700X with half cores disabled, is still much worse value. 50% better result vs. nerfed CPU, but the price is almost twice as high? Intel, pls. Needless to say, non-nerfed 2700X gonna destoy 9900K in price/performance almost 2:1. And the asking price of 9900K even if it runs at 5GHz all core OC? Still too high even for such luxury. Gamer's Nexus interview with PT looked like a new variation of the "Steamed Hams" meme.

Hey Jim, Is me again :) Thanks for this. I no longer need to fish out dozens of external sources to school people about Intel bullshit since 1984 and breaking cross-licensing agreement with AMD illegally because "unreliable supplier" Now I can just drop your video. :)

Gamers Nexus' interview with one of the founders of Principled Technologies was such a beautiful mess of avoiding questions, if you're looking for a good laugh have a look

The Verge just got roasted again.

I was interested to see how you were going to cover this content, without just repeating what has already been said. Well done Jim, cheers for the video.

Here we go, been waiting for this...

I just decided to back you on Patreon, because of the great work on this video. I've been subscribed for awhile, but I feel like I need to do what I can to ensure that people like you keep companies like Intel exposed, and hopefully one day, honest.

One very important note to take from this vid, amongst many obviously, is where you state that, due to what it is you do, you have no relationships with these companies; and in some ways that does suck since you don't get the freebies to play with or support from them... BUT.. that is also the absolute reason why I pay attention to what you're saying. You've given up a lot mate to be who you are, just want you to know that some amongst us appreciate that sacrifice.

Only 27 mins? You're getting old, lad.

@AdoredTV - not just Game mode... they used two kits of dual rank memory modules, which could only run on 2933 with really loose timings, hurting performance. Their Civ6 benchmark was actually Graphics, and many more. Steve from Gamers Nexus has had a lengty commentary on this, also interviewed guys from Principal Technologies.

You know, this whole i9 9900K ordeal actually gave me a bit of hope. Some outfits gladly picked up Intel's fud and ran it unquestionably. However, many in the press (and many users, admittedly, of the tech savvy variety) jumped on this story and dismantled it. GN and TechSpot/HU come to mind. Things have changed, Intel is not going to have an easy time at this, not like before.

Kyle is an awesome guy, and has not changed in the time I've followed his work. Even to his own detriment! Hell, two weeks ago I was talking with him about power supply cable compatibility, since I had just bought a used one with missing cable. He said he would not, and has no plans to make a list like that, because of the dangers involved. He then got Cooler Master in touch with me, who sent me a set of cables. And all I was looking for was a SKU number. Jim, you're an awesome guy too! I really love the depths that you go into, and the angle at which you look at everything. And just like the two Steve's (GN and HU), your integrity is second to none! (Totally not a gay statement!) Have a great day!

This whole benchmarking fiasco for the 9900K has been interesting to say the least. I've been following GamersNexus' coverage on it and even watched the interview they did today with the owner of Principled Technologies, that guy is so full of shite it's unreal! I don't think I believed a single word that came out of his mouth. I think Steve went quite easy on him, but I guess he wanted to be fair about everything.

In the middle of a hurricane with trees falling down around you? Pshhh watching AdoredTV video before the power shuts off is priority one!

Ahh.. finally time to kick back without some fine scotch for 27 minutes of good reporting and that accent everybody likes! :D

They even had the audacity to use a stock cooler for the 2700X, while the 9900K gets the nice Noctua treatment. How in the world is that fair? Either both platforms get the same cooling solutions or you stick with what is the stock configuration. In this case, the 9900K should get benchmarked nude ;). When I first came across that report, I was confused as to why Intel would do this. Why would you indulge in these shady tactics? Everybody in the PC gaming and enthusiast community knows that they hold the gaming advantage. It's because that difference does not justify double the price of 2700X. That's just CPUs alone, factor in Z390/Z370 costs, plus an aftermarket cooler and now we're looking at a significantly more expensive platform. Whereas the 2700X works just fine on a B450 mobo and already comes with a decent stock cooler for moderate OCing (remember ryzen isn't thermally limited, but rather you run into a voltage wall first. I also don't know which gamer would be buying a $500+ CPU to play at 1080P lol, when at 1440P and above, CPU performance is a complete wash. My faith in humanity was restored however when many publications immediately called them out on it. With that, Intel now look like they've just dug their own grave.

When i read News like that i kinda Start subconsciously waiting for your video on it.

Knew this was coming the moment Intel came out with this. Rock on Jim

Well that's a first for me.... 1st RU-vidr I have felt the need to go Patreon... nice work mate... keep it up !

We love you, Jim. Your content is unique on RU-vid, and utterly amazing. Thank you for your continued insights, research & analysis.

Bro the level of detective work is insane. Left me with my mouth open. Great work!!!

It's great how things have changed so quickly in the tech industry. Especially RU-vid channels like yours, HardwareUnboxed, and GamersNexus who have a very big, and followed outreach, educating people more than ever before. Turning more and more voices away from fanboyism, and blindly following. Five, four, and maybe even three years ago, Intel would've gotten away with this. So would've Nvidia with their Turing marketing. I'm glad times are changing for the better, and thank you for doing your part in it. Keep up the great work!

That Verge burn though. Savage :D

Your videos aren't long.....they're too short!!!! I could listen to you for an hour at least!!! Great video. Keep em coming.

"Principled technologies, my arse!" Jim's on fire and speaking the truth as usual.

He never comes too late or goes too early - always just right in time. As always, perfectly timed.

"Like the Verge or somethin'" i died :D

@15:39 Jim talking to himself in his video is Gold!

I love "hestory" too!...LOL

The one guy that downvoted this video is Principled Tech employee LUL

Oh noooo I want more.😥 As always 10/10 Jim. What can I say you are one of the best and it does seem that more and more people are slowly starting to wake up especially the tech press. God Bless.

Haha, I'm not the only one who has anticipated this video.

Just watched the GN interview and this popped up. Time to pull up a chair and open the popcorn!

Holy shit, I don't know what to say. Just when I think you've hit the high point with one of your videos, you blow it all out of the water with an even better one. Full of "drama" and interesting information. It's like watching a TV-series or something! Really appreciate the time you take to dig around and find out all of this stuff! And I like that you put your own thoughts and predictions at the end as well. Makes me smile wryly when I realise I wasn't so crazy when I thought Intel were up to no good, all these years. Very impressive, keep up the good work! Actually, I'm going to go so far as to sign up on your Patreon for this. You've earned it. :)

You know what I love? Your videos! Keep it going Jim!

Became patreon to support the most truthful and consistent tech RU-vidr there is :)

oh goodness another timeline from Jim, you just know it will be good

I'm done with Intel. Never buying a product from them again.

Your research, analysis, and presentation just keep getting better and better. Glad to have your critical eye watching out, so to speak.

On a serious note Jim, your content and due diligence are the best and I am always excited to hear your opinion and research.

Remember that one time when that one "security firm" with all of 3-4 employees, who just happened to be based out of Tel Aviv, Israel - about 6 miles away from Petah Tikva, where Intel has an R&D location... coincidentally - just so happened to find exploits buried so deep within the firmware of AMD Zen-based CPUs that it required physical access to the machine or admin privileges to pull off? And, who knows how much time, money, and resources were needed to pull off such a level of research to identify these exploits in the first place, especially by a BRAND NEW security firm of 3-4 employees with ZERO legitimate past references within this specific line of work. A BRAND NEW security firm whose domains & e-mails just so happened to have been registered in JUNE of 2017 - coincidentally, JUNE of 2017 also being the same month of the same year in which Intel was first informed by Google of the 'Spectre' & 'Meltdown' security faults of their CPU architecture. Don't know why I thought of that actually. I guess the whole Sysmark-BAPCo thing reminded me of that. ...for some reason...

This will be good. :D edit: Yes, it is good. Also I love 20:35. XD 21:26, now that is interesting. Too bad Steve from GamersNexus didn't know when he went for a visit. ;)

The problem is the majority of Intel users will not see these videos by AdoredTV, HardwareUnboxed and GamersNexus. BUT, it is so good to see the research and effort put in by you guys to make these issues known! Great work!

I don't care if these cpus are over 9000. I'm not buying them. Period.

14:24 “and highly played titles” I felt like he whispered it right on my ear in a persuading way :3

Been waiting for this one!!

I felt like your blood was boiling

TY for the video. I feel lucky that I discovered this channel, because it is hard to find good content and analysis among the sheer number of sites and videos produced every day. But this channel never fails to deliver an in depth analysis that shows the straight information that everyone needs.

I love how you wrap it up. Steve and his crew at Gamers Nexus just did a good job of putting pressure on Principal Technologies, to get some answers. As much as I want to cry foul on this one, I have also been in the tech field for a long time, and there is no shortage of people in high places, that are actually not qualified to do their jobs. I can see a scenario where these people didn't do their homework and enabled Game mode on the 2700X, without realizing what it actually does. That being said, I'm not saying it wasn't malicious either. No one that has spent more than a month in this field, or ever ran an experiment, would ever test one CPU on a weaker cooler, while the competition got a much better cooler. Actually this did happen when Skylake X came out, and much of the tech press ran Ryzen on air coolers, while Skylake X had 280mm or 360mm water coolers on it. The biggest problem with this is them getting a review out many days in advance, before third party reviewers were allowed to show their results. They know that people believe an initial headline, and no amount of corrections or retractions fix it in their minds. This happens all of the time in the mainstream "news" media. I've said this before. It's the same as government activities, where the population think they couldn't be this malicious, and they must be incompetent. They aren't incompetent. They know what they're doing, and they are just hoping that enough of you out there aren't smart enough or paying attention enough to catch it. They also know that other lazy or unqualified third parties will take the story and run, without checking it's results.

I actually subscribed to you so i could get notified when this video goes live. I knew it was coming the minute I saw those 9900k benchmarks and boy was it worth the wait.

Dayum this is good stuff, like a thrilling novella.thank you AdoredTV for the great journalism.

Jim releases a video.. intellectuals go silent all over the world. Great Video Jim!

Been waiting for this! In my impatience, couldn't help but annoy you on twitter the moment the story came out :)

i had a feeling this one was coming in fast. As always appreciate the content!

I am 4 minutes into video and you've already drowned me in nostalgia, I remember how I loved reading these as a teenager. Thank you so much, Jim.

The corruption continues. Another good reason to buy AMD over Intel whenever feasible. Thanks for another great video.

Yes, yes you did! ROFLMFAO pure gold Jim

Hopefully , this is more of a reminder rather than actual news. Think of it, and Intel's done it. But maybe a reminder is just what we need. Thanks for all the work you put into these videos!

Gd this week has been great. First the intel commissioned benchmarks...then hardware unboxed video, then gamers nexus going over there to interview, now this. Great job guys keeping everyone straight. You're the best!

Love how you reference the past and, so often, information I've not stumbled on (or paid attention to) even though I've been interested since the early '00s. Great watch!

Man, another great video to watch. I can just feel it.

I've been watching you since the beggining of your tech videos, it's pretty satisfying to see the current state of things. You did a good job educating the RU-vid masses. Good job

I think I watched about every video since I discovered your channel two weeks back, I think just the sheer amount of precise predictions and in depth analysis make your videos almost something like a pillar to the tech related subjects at the time, summing everything up well and giving very accurate ideas of whats to come consistently, again and again. I don't think I've seen that yet before on any other tech channel, and I genuinely appreciate your work. Thank you.

Oh man I was waiting for this video! Its becoming too easy for you! =)

Being fair, AMD really needs to rejig its game mode profile, especially in Ryzen Master for mainstream. On a furthernote, wouldn't it make sense to disable HT rather than cores in Legacy Compatibility, since its games like Ubisoft

I love how you recap the history and to be entirely forward, guys like you are the tip of the spear in the consumer battle for real information on the products we care about. Thank you very much.

See, this is what brings me back to this channel time after time: honest discussion about tech issues that we consumers should be aware of so that we can make better purchasing decisions. Bravo once more.

With the amount of work you put into these videos and the level of research, you deserve so many more subscribers. ALWAYS a great video.

Great video. I love that you cover the history that can often be lost or forgotten.

I'm not buying Intel again until they cease their shenanigans. And did you see the interview they did afterwards? The guy feigned ignorance the entire time, and clearly that was not the case.

this vid is so timely. And I LOVE the Verge comment

*Ryan Shrout raises fist into the sky* "Damn you, Jim! Let me shill in peace!"

I have a feeling, this is going to be classic, lol.

Yes was waiting for this vid all day, just knew it would come :-)

I swear in the dictionary the definition is Adored TV. Not a stone unturned. Well done sir. Well done. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

The sad truth - Intel doesn't care if you point their manipulative benchmarks. Those who fallow youtube hardware channels are very little part of the people who will buy new CPU and now the majority of the customers will simply get Intel, because its "the best".

Here we go, this is gonna be good!

Intel knows they are in trouble. Because there is no way 7nm Ryzen can be so terrible it will not be a much, much better buy than the 9900K. Same for Threadlripper and Eypic vs Intel's equivalent cpus. If you think this is dirty pool just wait. There is no limit to what Intel will do to keep their market dominance, especially in severs.

The time stamps in the comments section make a great highlights reel lol Gold! Well done you guys lol

Well well... let me get some tea.

I love these historical videos and how you connect them to what is going on today! Thanks for the content again.

Even tangentially it's not tin-foil. It runs far deeper than just this, and I'm not sure you've ever touched on it yet. ICC(Intel C Compiler) was used by many benchmarking suites, and the gaming industry at large. With the ICC Patcher, you can boost performance sometimes by upwards of 40% on AMD CPUs. The ICC Compiler has the same style of disclaimers now, in it's compiler documentations (as a footnote), and is no longer the defacto standard outside of STEM. The crux was ICC hid EVERY extended x86 instruction behind an if(GenuineIntel) conditional. Not using the ISO flags they themselves co-authored (and actually do use within the scope of the insane conditional). They ensured features were not called universally on an 'if(FeaturePresent)' basis. Just to re-iterate; SSE, MMX etc were entirely ignored when running on AMD hardware. I'd say disabling SIMD outright even when present is a pretty huge deal... To be clear developers who did inline assembly and optimized for AMD in their code, would still see benefits, but the compilers automatic behaviour was to heavily descriminate and ONLY apply optimization for Intel's sole benefit. So even some games effected by the ICC, won't see huge jumps on AMD hardware when patched. Running the ICC Patcher, elucidates a hell of a lot, it can throw false positives on occasion (genuine uses of if(GenuineIntel) conditionals to do other things like chip identification. But testing it out, you can find clear as day evidence just how pervasive and impactful it was. (ICC Patcher, creates filename.exe.orig backups). (Most mainstream benchmarks ditched ICC once the controversy was successfully litigated. But just as importantly so did most mainstream game developers).

I'm pretty sure I found this channel because of an Elite Dangerous vulture video...anyway awesome video as always. Tired of Intel and their bullshit tbh... So glad we have RU-vid and social modia to iron out all this bullshit.

$hintlel Con Lake 14nm++++

You nailed it again. Good work mate.

you should get together with steve and make some magic happen :D keep up the good work.

Excellent video, as always. The conclusion is my most favourite part. Your arguments are getting more razor-sharp than before, which I really do love. Keep up the good work! :)

"Principle Technologies?! My Ass!!" Best line of the month! I am still laughing! God, I love you!

Man got to love watch Jim back slash all these greedy companies

I'm glad reviewers benchmark 7zip because I do a lot of archiving with it, so for me the compression speed is really important while the decompression speed is utterly irrelevant. That said, I'd probably still buy AMD CPU over Intel because Intel pricing is stupid.

Too short video. Just Just Awesome. PLEASE keep them coming these videos will be referenced for a long time.

YA! Laying the facts out, and shining a spotlight on suspected "bad practice" while letting the viewer decide the merits? That IS the spirit of journalism, no matter the label given to it. Thanks Jim, great as always.

Next up on memory lane: Sharky Extreme. Van's Hardware still exists but it's a defunct personal blog. Still Van himself, though. Still-live time capsules of the site exist if you go digging.