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Intel Tiger Lake H45 is Here and It’s FAST! 11800H Performance in MSI GP66 - Includes CPU Overclock 

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Quick performance test and tuning of the MSI GP66 with the new Tiger Lake H45 i7 11800H on Intel 10nm SuperFin technology.
RTX 3070 at 135w @ stock
3200MHZ CL16 with Gear 1 enabled
11800H Overclocking !!
Edit: I misspoke in the video and said upping the gear ration from gear 2 to gear 1 was only 20mV, when it's actually 200mV. Sorry about that.

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@Fatbelly
@Fatbelly 3 года назад
There is a performance/balanced mode option in BIOS. If you change it, you don't need to change power plan every boot.
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 3 года назад
Great find! Thank you!
@Fatbelly
@Fatbelly 3 года назад
@@TalonsTech Thank you too! your video was the best one on this model, especially helpful with the bios settings, had no idea it could be unlocked. I did some overclocking/undervolting and what seemed best for me was undervolting the cpu at stock multipliers and with the 1:1 gear 1 setting, -60mV, and overclocking gpu +100 core +200 mem (since gpu is generally more important for gaming), with the following results, only ~3C hotter than stock benchmarks: www.3dmark.com/3dm/62294264 5 432 score - 5 434 gfx - 5 426 cpu www.3dmark.com/3dm/62294117 11132 time spy 6976 superposition 1080p extreme 20538 superposition 1080p medium browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/8227410 geekbench 1609 single 9431 multi
@Heimonsterr
@Heimonsterr 3 года назад
@@Fatbelly with the same laptop? Might copy your settings. But I'm afraid i may ruin it 😅 can you help me 😅
@Fatbelly
@Fatbelly 3 года назад
@@Heimonsterr I just did the memory change mentioned in the video (gear1, 1:1 ratio), cpu voltage offset -60mV, and then in msi afterburner in windows added +100 core +200 mem. Might of course not be stable on every unit, but it works for me. I have the same MSI GP66 leopard 11800h + 3070 model with 1TB m.2 ssd.
@Heimonsterr
@Heimonsterr 3 года назад
@@Fatbelly we have the same laptop. You did all everything he do in the video?
@mikeswift8155
@mikeswift8155 2 года назад
Hey My friend I just wanted to say thanks for taking time to go thru this and share with the community. I just purchased the GP66-11uh32 a few weeks ago when it went on sale at New Egg and have been going thru the process of upgrading my ram to 32 gb of 3200 and a 2nd 2tb SSD. I have been cautiously researching and fine tuning to try and achieve the best balance of performance to thermal stability in hopes of giving my laptop it's best chance for a long and happy coexistence together. Your efforts really brought some valuable information and insight to get me that much closer to my achieving this balance. Going to hit that 👍 and give a sub which I don't often do but this has been a great source of specific tech for my machine that I haven't come across on any of the other high profile content creator's yeet. Thanks again. Happy New Years brother I wish you much future success.
@Oklamaboy
@Oklamaboy 3 года назад
Very underrated channel, thanks for such detail video. Keep it up, man, hope you'll get 100k subs soon 🙌
@phatminhphan4121
@phatminhphan4121 3 года назад
MSI nailed it !!! What a MONSTER !!! Thx for the video man ! great job
@awwtv2603
@awwtv2603 3 года назад
I'm upgrading from the MSI ge73 to the GP76 with a 3070 next week. This is the only video on youtube that I have found that goes into the bios. Its pretty much like the GE73. thanks for doing the video.
@awwtv2603
@awwtv2603 2 года назад
@@Joseph-hh4cm Its not in the cpu overclocking tab, its in one of the 1st tabs in the advanced bios.
@awwtv2603
@awwtv2603 2 года назад
@@Joseph-hh4cm press alt, then right side control then shift then F2 key to get into the advanced bios. In the bio look for the tab that says system agent configuration. Press that, then memory config tab, then the memory tab. That last tab will bring up the memory xmp profiles.
@slickrounder6045
@slickrounder6045 3 года назад
Priceless video that really helped with my GP76 i just got. Was able to overclock my Memory in the Bios, but sadly it didn't stick with your settings (guess I lost the Ram Silicon Lottery, but will see how my Cpu and Gpu did with UV/OC tuning shortly), but going a bit up to 18 CL , 20 Trcd/trp, 44 Tras my 2nd try worked fine. Presumably can get even higher, but not exactly an expert on memory tuning so will keep it at that for now and will see how much gain it brings to my stock benchmarks (aida64 memory test had a huge boost w/oc and gear 1).
@muathbulbul
@muathbulbul 2 года назад
Have you found lower (better) memory timings than those? I got my laptop yesterday, and tried the same values as shown in video, it keeps resetting itself to the default values, So today I am gonna try yours, but was wondering since this is 6 months ago if you find better ones that stick. Thanks in advance!
@golysh.v
@golysh.v Год назад
@slickrounder6045 Thanks for the solution. On my GP76 I set tCL 17, tRCD/tRP 19, tRAS 28, tCWL 16, tFAW 16, and everything works great!
@muhd.roszaimanrossli9846
@muhd.roszaimanrossli9846 10 месяцев назад
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SHARE.. I LEARN A LOT.. Thanks Again
@Ityansir
@Ityansir 21 день назад
Bro, you are the one who knows what he is doing. Good video. Very useful
@Nazar_23
@Nazar_23 2 года назад
Thanks. Very good video.
@xdzhng
@xdzhng 2 года назад
Nice video! I guess I need to do the repaste work before OC it, while playing red dead redemption 2 the CPU temp easily goes up to 100 degree c, but I do enjoy the ultra graphic!
@superaladin88
@superaladin88 2 года назад
thank you man for this very nice video. I have a gp76 and i applied your ram settings and evrything is working well for the moment. if you end up with some better settings please let us know
@krel72
@krel72 2 года назад
You can force ultra-performance by doing a gpedit and then putting the GUID: Computer Configuration -> Administrative Templates -> System -> Power Management->Specify a custom active power plan
@vitalymichailov387
@vitalymichailov387 3 года назад
Hello! Top content, thx!
@madpear
@madpear 2 года назад
This guy sounds like Bill Hader. I can't stop picturing him while listening. Also great video thanks!
@locked01
@locked01 2 года назад
I did exactly what you show in the bios part. My laptop is the same, just with the 3080. Now, without using Intel XTU, should I see any difference? Is the CPU and RAM faster like this?
@muathbulbul
@muathbulbul Год назад
Hey Talon, Quick question, @27:45 you were talking about VccIO Voltage Override, have you figured out what it does? And can I use it to get my memory VDD to 1.35 V, and then overclock my memory timings even further? Thanks buddy
@Xero-Hero
@Xero-Hero Месяц назад
Do you have a video for this for the most recent bios version from MSI?
@brennansfund
@brennansfund 2 года назад
Thanks for the video! Can you please explain why you have no interest overclocking the gpu? I got 10 extra frames out of warzone by doing that but there is no frame difference with a cpu overclock. The GPU runs cool even overclocked so why don't you do it?
@dandelicious6177
@dandelicious6177 2 года назад
Why no Uncore Offset to same values like Core and ring (in case you wanne undervolt)?
@alibi_streamhighlights736
@alibi_streamhighlights736 6 месяцев назад
How do i get those temps my CPU ist like 95c on cinebench and clocks down almost instanly , repasted it with honeywell ptm but it aint much better i wish i could have temps like 60 on gpu/cpu while gaming
@tanmilne
@tanmilne 2 года назад
Just bought one of these after coming from consoles. Trying to get the best performance out of it but this all is so new to me so having a hard time understanding.
@danueecitizen
@danueecitizen Год назад
I recently got this laptop, try to follow this as guide, but my cpu keeps getting throttling to 3.2ghz instantly when i run a benchmark
@af-photography
@af-photography Год назад
My memory configuration on 24:22 is greyed out i cannot change those settings why?
@vmafarah9473
@vmafarah9473 Год назад
10:32 ,Does tightening ram timing benift VIEWPORT fps of CAD 3d apps like blender, ? can you check it, coz, I cant find any info on the web about this, Single core clock affects fps Im also thinking ram maybe bottlenecking this.
@NightBot1361
@NightBot1361 8 месяцев назад
Hello Sir .. What Is keystroke .. ?
@thasneemciyad
@thasneemciyad Месяц назад
I have no options for >memory After memory configuration > only have options showing which are Memory thermal configuration and Memory training algorithms
@andresvallejo878
@andresvallejo878 11 месяцев назад
Hello is there anyway to get in touch with you to futher learn,maybe about overclocking the ram
@vmafarah9473
@vmafarah9473 Год назад
13:04 how did you made the ram quad channel.?
@basharalloush4618
@basharalloush4618 3 года назад
Thnx for the video.. Which Ram did u buy ?
@MrReklez
@MrReklez 2 года назад
Hi, I set my gear ratio to 1 but the "Memory bus" doesnt seem to change but latency has reduced by 30 ns. Mine is stuck at 1463 when on gear 1 but 1600 on gear 2 . Have not tuned other timings. Yours shows 3200 . Any ideas?
@MrReklez
@MrReklez 2 года назад
also yours says "quad channel " whereas mine says dual
@statoskop
@statoskop 3 года назад
Почему процессор ограничен 25w? Но система охлаждения всё равно справляется и не процессор не уходит в тротлинг при этих частотах
@halleberry123
@halleberry123 3 года назад
Do you suggest overclocking or rather undervoltage due to the smaller chassis and thus preventing higher temps while gaming?
@FaridRudiansyah
@FaridRudiansyah 2 года назад
You can do both, Undervolt then overclock
@slickrounder6045
@slickrounder6045 3 года назад
Throttlestop should be able to stick your UV/OC tunings when you start up automatically (Task Scheduler needed) since it seems that Intel Xtu isn't sticking them for you @29:35 . But maybe not. Could be some setting you have that is being rejected, hence it defaults back to normal clockspeeds. Might be worth setting everything back to default (memory/clocks etc) and then changing things one by one and seeing what sticks post reboot and what "breaks" things back to default. Could be related to the Balanced vs Ultimate power profile for some reason. Hmm atleast it keeps the All Core overclock regardless though. For me that is the most important thing anyways. Ok i hear what you said @32:10, sounds about right.
@quocnguyen1188
@quocnguyen1188 3 года назад
does throttlestop have OC ability?
@slickrounder6045
@slickrounder6045 3 года назад
@@quocnguyen1188 You can control clock multipliers with Throttlestop yes.
@logger4130
@logger4130 3 года назад
i got the same laptop, its quite fast. it plays mfs2020 on ultra settings np aswell :)
@mellonhead9568
@mellonhead9568 3 года назад
Holy cow
@kaiichinose9590
@kaiichinose9590 3 года назад
That's awesome well done. Do you think the 11980hk is worth it over the 11800h? I plan on pairing with a rtx 3080 (16gb) the tgp on the card is 165w.
@vmafarah9473
@vmafarah9473 Год назад
no
@Summers8Mike
@Summers8Mike 3 года назад
im not a msi guy, but looking forwards to the Razer blades with the tiger lake, how much difference would you estimate between these two, with the same cpu?
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 3 года назад
I think it really depends on how well the Razer can cool the CPU, if they offer ability to tune the RAM, gear ratio and have overclocking/undervolting.
@cemsengul16
@cemsengul16 3 года назад
Undervolting will determine whether I buy a Tiger Lake Razer Blade. I really hope they unlocked it again on the latest model.
@iwanprivate2331
@iwanprivate2331 Год назад
Hey Talon i have bought the same laptop recently. I followed your steps but my cpu does not exceed 2.3 Ghz. Do you know why this might be and how to fix it?
@Valarmorghulis101
@Valarmorghulis101 Год назад
Enable c state
@halleberry123
@halleberry123 3 года назад
How would you compare and rank those 3 different versions? Is the 100% DCI-P3 display better than the RTX 3080 on the 100% sRGB? (panel vs. gpu) de.msi.com/Laptop/GP66-Leopard-11UX/Specification ..unfortunately there is no real info on those panels. Or would you rather tend to GP76 just for the cooler temps??
@LordBattleSmurf
@LordBattleSmurf 3 года назад
Is it possible to buy and add memory ourselves? This is the perfect laptop for me but i NEED 32gb. If so how do i know which memory is compatible?
@QChen-ed1hx
@QChen-ed1hx 3 года назад
yes you can, just need to open carefully since a lot of plastics to hold the D face
@dandelicious6177
@dandelicious6177 3 года назад
Why is Turbo Boost Power Max at 200W by default when Tiger Lake H45 has a TDP of 45W?
@Krimpzz
@Krimpzz Год назад
Good question
@LARPCapital
@LARPCapital Год назад
200 is just a stock setting for "max"
@antidepressiva010
@antidepressiva010 3 года назад
Hi, I got a Ge76 11800h rtx 3080 and have a question. Is this normal? 8 of the 16 threads are peaking down to 801mhz for a split second and then goes normal. With the 10870h I never had that.
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 3 года назад
Totally normal. On the balanced plan the CPU will drop. Mine also does this. If you select high performance or ultimate performance under power options it should stop. You may also need to change the power plan in the MSI Center. Personally even for gaming you can leave it on balanced and it likely won’t make any difference and the CoU should hold high clocks. The only difference is that using extreme mode allows the CPU to draw more power. I think balanced limits to 51w.
@antidepressiva010
@antidepressiva010 3 года назад
@@TalonsTech thank you for reply me. I appreciate that. The power plan is already set to ultimate performance and in the msi center its set to extreme performance. Then it's not normal or? In timespy I get good scores on cpu like 11400. Do you think I must contact MSI?
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 3 года назад
@@antidepressiva010 as long as your scores are normal I wouldn’t worry about it. These new CPUs act very differently from older CPUs. They sort of boost when they are under load or need to and they try and throttle down when they can. Im currently testing an MSI GS66 with 11800H so can’t compare the CPU behavior.
@Laca4514
@Laca4514 3 года назад
Hello can you give me info repaste and what paste use? Your have very good temps, my config original 95-100 celsius -70 uv... respaste but 90-95 celsius
@LARPCapital
@LARPCapital Год назад
Honeywell PTM
@cemsengul16
@cemsengul16 3 года назад
I am curious about the 11900H on the Razer Blade Advanced. I hope Razer unlocked undervolting through the bios again. Many of their competitors allow undervolting.
@slickrounder6045
@slickrounder6045 3 года назад
You better hope the Razer can Undervolt. Temps are notoriously terrible as is. Only way it would be usable is with a UV.
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 3 года назад
If Razer unlocks the voltage controls/XTU/Throttlestop then you should be able to achieve really great results with that chip. The 11900H will be a better binned chip, and you could in theory lower the clocks a bit and really get lower voltages/better temps because of that. Let me know how it works out if you go that route!
@cemsengul16
@cemsengul16 3 года назад
@@TalonsTech I am planning to purchase a fully loaded OLED blade with the 11900H but I want to wait for a review. I am not sure I would still want it if I can not undervolt.
@Atlanticaerialworx
@Atlanticaerialworx 2 года назад
Actually the 3080 model we bought came with a 1TB WD SN810 4Gen. I can't find any info on it besides that it was made in East Asia
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 2 года назад
I had heard that. MSI definitely skimped on the NVME for some models while other brands almost all included a Gen4 SSD, even a cheap one.
@TheEyeofhawk
@TheEyeofhawk 3 года назад
Does this laptop have a Gen 4 PCIe SSD or is it only for GE66 ?
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 3 года назад
It supports Gen 4, the 3070 model however comes with Gen3 drive and the 3080 model comes with a Gen4 drive. But you can upgrade to any Gen4 SSD to get full speeds.
@DirtyCes
@DirtyCes 3 года назад
I subbed, Thanks for the info. My model came with 32gb of ram. I really don't want to mess with memory timings because I've never did it before but I have a question. Can I change it to Gear 1 without changing anything else? And would you recommend undervolting for gaming because that's what this laptop would be used for. If you say can yes and I do it in the bios will it stick or will it change since the laptop changes to balance after every reboot. Thanks for you help very informative. Also once you find your perfect timings would you share them. I may try them out.
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 3 года назад
Yes you can use Gear 1 without changing memory speed or timings. Yes it will stick through reboots. I do recommend you try undervolting. Even something easy like -50mV to core would be beneficial for temps.
@DirtyCes
@DirtyCes 3 года назад
@@TalonsTech thanks for the reply, if I try -70 like you how would I know if it was too much
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 3 года назад
@@DirtyCes You would get crashing/rebooting/blue screens. -50mV should be doable on all Tiger Lake H. I think even -70mV for gaming will be doable on all systems as well. Only way to know is trial and error. You might even get a golden chip that can undervolt much farther and have even better temps and performance.
@DirtyCes
@DirtyCes 3 года назад
@@TalonsTech okay, thanks again
@dynamite9541
@dynamite9541 3 года назад
is max temp changeable in bios ? maybe we can set throttle to 100c instead of 96c
@slickrounder6045
@slickrounder6045 3 года назад
A better idea is to not need to hit 96c in the first place. Forget about 100c. Changing the tjunction is never the way to go.
@dynamite9541
@dynamite9541 3 года назад
@@slickrounder6045 i just want to know if this bios has tjmax feature, it can be useful
@TabalugaDragon
@TabalugaDragon 3 года назад
If only msi laptops had better battery life and build quality like Legion laptops, I'd buy one without thinking twice.
@LARPCapital
@LARPCapital Год назад
if you buy a gaming laptop for battery life then you're worrying about the thing, should never be unplugged in the first place , it's just a portable PC end of the day
@TabalugaDragon
@TabalugaDragon Год назад
@@LARPCapital damn, I've been using my gaming laptops on battery for 12 years now, held the charge from 4 to 7 hours of basic use, modern gaming laptops (HP Victus 16, Dell G15, Asus TUF A15, Zephirus G15, MSI Delta) get over 11 hours of watching videos, but you're absolutely right man, they should never be used on battery! You've opened my eyes, thank you! I'll always be using them plugged in from now on, despite them having a full day battery these days. Let that battery rot into uselessness!
@LARPCapital
@LARPCapital Год назад
@@TabalugaDragon times a'changin, old man, keep up
@TabalugaDragon
@TabalugaDragon Год назад
@@LARPCapital lol, you're an old man if you still think gaming laptops have poor battery life. Nowdays some of them have better runtime than most cheaper ultrabooks.
@mastermax8396
@mastermax8396 Год назад
Wow thats really helpfull, love the video! Setted gear 1 :) performance +5% also ram 1n or 1t it is faster, i think when u set ram voltage from 1.2v to like 1.3 it is changing but there is no info in system, but when u drop ram timings to like cl 15 then your laptop wont start with 1.2v but give hier voltage and it works fine i guess up to 1.3v without radiators, i wonder if i set the ram multipler to 27x which is 3600mhz will this settings work out for me with latency like c20-22, with furry impact 2666/cl15@3200/cl16 with just 1.25v but it might work 1.2v, did anyone tried 27x133?
@moneypressoverdrive2020
@moneypressoverdrive2020 3 года назад
is there only 8 lanes to the gpu?
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 3 года назад
16x lanes at PCIE 4.0.
@hurricane5952
@hurricane5952 3 года назад
Can you do cbr20?
@gregwilhide9685
@gregwilhide9685 3 года назад
Can you confirm the speaker fuzz(when audio is playing) from the right side of the keyboard/speaker? like if you play a youtube video and turn down the sound to 1% in Dgpu mode. Also hybrid mode has color tone changing/transparent windows. Atleast the 4 ge76 i went through had them. I had the 10750h and 10875h models with 3070 and 3080. I only ask cus i know the GP is basicly a GE with a different chassis. Also had issues with 99c within seconds of gaming. and barely dropping below 95c on cpu lol. MSI really has been a letdown and trust me.. i really wanted to like these laptops.
@jonny6602
@jonny6602 3 года назад
Please test warzone thermals during game :) I don't know buy this laptop or 3080 or the gp 76 with 3070 How do you overclock the cpu?? When you play longer games what cpu Temps do you get??? Cinebench r 15 single and multicore score?? Greets sorry for my bad English 😂
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 3 года назад
Hey no worries about the English, I completely understand what you're requesting! :) During Warzone completely stock with the fans turned up you can expect around 65C GPU and 60-70c CPU. This is of course with very high FPS so it's expected the laptop will warm up a bit. I will upload a video soon demonstarting game temps so no worries. Let me check on CB15. I overclock the CPU using Intel XTU. The CPU can be overclocked 400Mhz on the 11800H and 500Mhz on the i9 11900H as they are partially unlocked by Intel this generation. I go over this in the video if you missed it.
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 3 года назад
Test uploaded.
@jonny6602
@jonny6602 3 года назад
Thx man 🙏🙏🙏💪 I will Upgrade from 2070 super laptop 😇
@SubKiller
@SubKiller 3 года назад
@@TalonsTech how many fps were you getting on it?
@remziegemenkilic
@remziegemenkilic 3 года назад
Hello, thanks for the video. i am researching for ge76 i7 10870h with rtx3070 140w. and gp76 i7 11800h with rtx3070. But i don’t have any iadea about gpu wattage for gp76. Which one should i prefer to buy? Thx for the reply.
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 3 года назад
If I were you, I would grab the GE76 with 11800H. Honestly GP/GE are similar with the new 11th gen losing UBS-C/Thunderbolt 4 and no RGB which is unfortunate. But performance will be near identical otherwise. But if you want the best, go GE76 with better screen, Thunderbolt 4, and rgb for 300 extra fps :P
@remziegemenkilic
@remziegemenkilic 3 года назад
@@TalonsTech thanks again ☺️ we have not ge76 with 11th gen cpu yet in my country. i think i am going to get gp76 because of that. Thank you.
@slickrounder6045
@slickrounder6045 3 года назад
@@remziegemenkilic From what we know, the Gp76 should be the full 140w 3070 (125+15 Dynamic Boost). Talon's Gp66 is basically full power as well at 135w (125+10DB).
@remziegemenkilic
@remziegemenkilic 3 года назад
@@TalonsTech Hello, my laptop just came today gp76 11ug. Everything is ok but except one thing. My gpu(nvidia) always stay at 1620mhz and 7000mhz(gpu ram). i couldn't fix it yet. do you have same problem? mshybrid mode active. In AC and Battery has same situation. previous ge75 radier was always stay N/A position for gpu at the idle.
@halleberry123
@halleberry123 3 года назад
@@slickrounder6045 Gp66 should rather be 120+15DB instead of your mentioned125+10. Max DB is always 15 I think.
@bestsnowboarderuknow
@bestsnowboarderuknow 2 месяца назад
I was with you until about 24:20. Then you lost me. I have a stock gs66 stealth 10sf. I did a system benchmark test from userbenchmark's website and it said everything was great except my RAM which was in the bottom 6th percentile and I should try enabling xmp. Which is what I was trying to do. But I'm just beyond confused now. 😢 Also my bios doesn't have gear 1 or 2 option...
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 2 месяца назад
10th gen does not have a gear modes. It uses DDR4 in Gear 1 all the time. 11th gen introduced gear modes for the IMC. For real gains with 10th gen GS66 you need to use DDR4 Samsung B-Dies. You can find this out by looking at the memory ICs and seeing if they are Samsung, or by using CPU-Z and looking at the SPD tab.
@kokiahmed3611
@kokiahmed3611 3 года назад
sir pelase i have the same laptop but i dont understand nothing i want rely undervolt my cpu but its hard for me with this way ,,can you pelase do undervolt with app trottlestop pelase its ezz for everyone use trottlestop can you make vedio plz plz brother i realy need ur help ,i have same laptop here but its hard for me understand this way cuz my english so bad ,pelase brother do it with trottlestop ,and thank you sir i hope you answer
@craizhunterx9033
@craizhunterx9033 3 года назад
Did you have check the ssd speed?
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 3 года назад
I did not, but will. Unfortunately the laptop came configured with a PCIE 3.0 drive, but it does support 4.0 drives.
@pierandreasolla
@pierandreasolla 2 года назад
Undervolt 3070 mobile video? Please!!
@jameswalker-le3qj
@jameswalker-le3qj 2 года назад
Sorry, I have watched the vid and couldnt see anything about setting XMP ? Could you tell me please how you can set the XMP profile when upgrading the memory ?
@muathbulbul
@muathbulbul 2 года назад
Great video man! I had it bookmarked 2 months ago waiting to get my laptop, and I got it yesterday. Your exact memory values didn't stick for me, each time I change them to your values, then save and exit, it keeps resetting itself to the default profile. The only thing that did stick is the gear ratio. Can you guide me on where to start fiddling with these values or which values that might be the problem? And what to change them to? Since I really have no experience in memory optimization. Also. by any chance, have you missed out on mentioning something in the video that we should change beforehand which make these values stick? As I see in the comments section, others also mentioned that it didn't stick for them either. Thanks in advance.
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 2 года назад
Setting the TCL to 16 might be too aggressive for the stock memory and memory can vary from unit to unit. Not only binning but also brand and types they have on hand when building the systems. I would try and loosen the memory and try TCL 17, TRP 18, tRAS 40. Set TRFC to 500. If trfc isn’t stable at 500 try 550 and so forth. Don’t under-volt the system agent. Only change/undervolt the core/cache voltage. I think I may have incorrectly shown undervolting the system agent at some point. You can verify this with Intel XTU or HwInfo64. The reason you don’t want to undervolt the SA is because you’re using gear 1 and tighter memory timings. This requires the slightly higher VCCSA voltage and can quickly become unstable if you undervolt it.
@muathbulbul
@muathbulbul 2 года назад
@@TalonsTech Thanks a lot man 🙏 Will try it out and report back! Can I ask you another thing? When undervolting my cpu, I managed to get it stable on -0.08 Volts for core, stressed test it and game on it for hours and it was all good, but on the cache side, last I tried was -0.025 Volts and it crashes the system while gaming. Why is that happening? There is a slight deference in XTU naming for me, but don't know if that is the problem, Core voltage offset is the same name as shown in your video But cache, for me it is called: Performance Cores Cache Voltage Offset Does it have to do with anything or is that a name change only?
@muathbulbul
@muathbulbul 2 года назад
Ok here are the values that stuck for me and was stable after like two hours of trial and error and stress testing the memory: tCL = 18 (17 crashed while stress testing) tRCD = 19 (18 didn't stick) tRAS = 40 (haven't tried going lower) tCWL = 20 (haven't tried going lower) tFAW = 34 (haven't tried going lower) tREFI = 20000 (haven't tried going higher) tRFC = 500 (haven't tried going lower) tRD = 0 (default) tRTP = 12 (default) tWR = [24] (default) tWTR = 0 (default) NMode = 2 (default is 1) Voltage = 1.2 (default) With all this, with Aida64 Extreme cache & memory benchmark, I got a latency of: 67-68 ms
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 2 года назад
@@muathbulbul In a recent XTU update Intel provided separate controls for core/cache voltage. When they did that they renamed it to what you’re seeing. It might be you just can’t undervolt the cache very much on your chip. Cache voltage doesn’t lower temps as much as core so no worries. The core voltage is the big one and sounds like you got a good chip.
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 2 года назад
@@muathbulbul I made a mistake in the video and you should be good with NMode = 1. This will give you a slight performance and latency improvement.
@albertcanon9185
@albertcanon9185 3 года назад
Battery life pls
@Imbeemed
@Imbeemed Месяц назад
My laptop shows black screen when i turn it on now.
@gamerworld5863
@gamerworld5863 29 дней назад
Did you solved it?
@deus.galaxy
@deus.galaxy 19 дней назад
Long press power button for 45 sec and this will do a CMOS reset
@Afflige
@Afflige Месяц назад
i set gear 1 but ram frequency dropped from 3200 to 2933 i fixed max mem freq to 3200 but still 2933
@mircomputers
@mircomputers 4 дня назад
i think it's still better to have it 2933 G1 if you game, if you work maybe 3200g2 can be better
@SamLoki
@SamLoki 2 года назад
This is one of the only good MSI laptops in current years. The GF, GS, and GL line should be avoided
@Windows-st3ti
@Windows-st3ti 3 года назад
get gp76 or ge76? both are 140W 3070 with 11800H
@quocnguyen1188
@quocnguyen1188 3 года назад
gp76 doesn't have usb-c port.
@smokeskull
@smokeskull 3 года назад
I have the 3080 model coming today
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 3 года назад
Nice. It’s going to be a beast. These machines are easily a top choice laptops if you want raw performance. Where did you order from? Newegg has been sold out of a few SKUs lately.
@smokeskull
@smokeskull 3 года назад
I am in Canada and I got it from Memory Express. Thanks for the videos. Looks like MSI is allowing us to make some needed changes to adapt for different uses. I had to return a beautiful Lenovo with a RTX2080 because it overheated the cpu so bad in COD and no way to fix it
@smokeskull
@smokeskull 3 года назад
Also something weird is COD practice mode crashes every time I try and load a map. I try everything. The campaign and multi-player is ok. Always something
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 3 года назад
@@smokeskull have you changed anything on the laptop or stock? Are you in discrete or hybrid mode? Have you tried to update the drivers or windows to latest OS available. Make sure you’re completely up to date. Try this. Go into the video settings and change the textures from high to normal and see if that helps.
@smokeskull
@smokeskull 3 года назад
@@TalonsTech The Nvida control panel or Timespy? I returned the GP66 and bought a GE76 Raider. Its amazing machine I get similar scores as yours. Looking forward to mare tech tips from you. Where you been? I want to buy some Crucial DDR3200 and a Samsung 980 Pro 2TB. I want max SSD storeage inside.
@quocnguyen1188
@quocnguyen1188 3 года назад
what brand of ram is that?
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 3 года назад
Stock ram, tuned in bios.
@quocnguyen1188
@quocnguyen1188 3 года назад
@@TalonsTech you can tune it up to cas 16?? amazing!
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 3 года назад
@@quocnguyen1188 :) MSI hidden/advanced BIOS is honestly amazing feature. If you set a wrong timing or you crash the system the BIOS will revert to default settings and then restart. It's very user friendly IMO.
@LARPCapital
@LARPCapital Год назад
@@TalonsTech MSI is king no doubt
@MrAmazinj
@MrAmazinj 3 года назад
Please post some Cinebench scores
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 3 года назад
Will do. Stock with undervolt -70mV is 14K~ in CB23 multi. This of course is pulling 83w. Overclocked it can hit up to 14.6K but temps are just getting too warm. I need to repaste or use liquid metal like some other laptops are using.
@bogodoyandex9654
@bogodoyandex9654 3 года назад
@@TalonsTech why that Hardware Unboxed channel show that 95w only 12k?
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 3 года назад
@@bogodoyandex9654 I have no idea. They had to have been thermal throttling with their different laptop they used. I will upload a video showing I can get 12.8K at just 76w at just 3.9Ghz all cores. At stock out of box you're looking at 13.9K on this laptop.
@bogodoyandex9654
@bogodoyandex9654 3 года назад
@@TalonsTech did you turn off avx512?
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 3 года назад
@@bogodoyandex9654 No.
@williamblake7386
@williamblake7386 3 года назад
so zen3 cores with slightly more consumption, 6 month later, and it will cost more. very impressive.
@cemsengul16
@cemsengul16 3 года назад
Intel is finished put a fork in her.
@slickrounder6045
@slickrounder6045 3 года назад
Main advantage is it can Undervolt (+Overclock). If one isn't trying to tune anyways (foolish to give up on huge temp reduction and performance boost from Undervolting) then Ryzen has many advantages still.
@cemsengul16
@cemsengul16 3 года назад
@@slickrounder6045 but not every brand allows you to undervolt. Razer took it away.
@slickrounder6045
@slickrounder6045 3 года назад
@@cemsengul16 If that is so (would need confirmation from owners of all the different new 11th Gen Razer Laptops) then it should be a HARD pass. Razer has notoriously bad cooling as is due to it's thin chassis and lack of thermal upgrade options. Undervolting is probably the only out of box thing that can make it usable. Anyways I already ordered a GP76 from GentechPc. Got free Liquid Metal and Fujipoly Extreme Thermal Pads and some other goodies. Should have no issue Undervolting and Overclocking it, and temps should be much better than the GP66 seen here.
@Dampfheini
@Dampfheini 2 года назад
This CPU is absolutely garbage. I have it and it throttles after even just 1 minute down to 3,4 ghz which cuts the fps down by 1/3. I cant even undervolt this shitty cpu. My laptop with 9750H is faster due to it is able to hold at least 3.8 ghz
@MrReklez
@MrReklez 2 года назад
yea same. Mine throttles so fast its pointless.... Probably something with the cooling ig.. Same issue after repasting
@Krimpzz
@Krimpzz Год назад
@@MrReklez fr
@LARPCapital
@LARPCapital Год назад
Honeywell PtM 7950 or Liquid Metal that bad boi
@alibi_streamhighlights736
@alibi_streamhighlights736 6 месяцев назад
you solved that problem i have the same even after repaste@@MrReklez
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